Expect the Eagles to make a big splash in free agency
According to ESPN's Pat Yasinskas, the Eagles have just $80.8 million committed to the salary cap in 2011. That's the 5th lowest of any team in the NFL, and $20.7 million less than the league average of $101.5 million. Here are the totals for each team:
| Rank | Team | Cap figure | Rank | Team | Cap figure | Rank | Team | Cap figure |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Dallas | 136.6 | 12 | New Orleans | 105.2 | 23 | Cincinnati | 90.7 |
| 2 | Green Bay | 129.8 | 13 | Chicago | 104.9 | 24 | Oakland | 85.8 |
| 3 | NYJ | 128.5 | 14 | Tennessee | 104.4 | 25 | San Diego | 85.8 |
| 4 | NYG | 126.3 | 15 | Miami | 103.1 | 26 | Arizona | 83 |
| 5 | Denver | 125 | 16 | St Louis | 102.4 | 27 | Seattle | 81.1 |
| 6 | Houston | 118.4 | 17 | New England | 102.3 | 28 | Philadelphia | 80.8 |
| 7 | Pittsburgh | 116 | 18 | Atlanta | 102.1 | 29 | Jacksonville | 78.1 |
| 8 | Indianapolis | 115.5 | 19 | Baltimore | 101.3 | 30 | Kansas City | 74.7 |
| 9 | Washington | 115.2 | 20 | San Francisco | 100.9 | 31 | Carolina | 73 |
| 10 | Detroit | 113.8 | 21 | Cleveland | 99.2 | 32 | Tampa Bay | 59.7 |
| 11 | Minnesota | 108.4 | 22 | Buffalo | 96.4 |
I got into this a bit in my "Oh my God, we have to sign Nnamdi Asomugha!" post a few weeks ago, but it's no surprise that the Eagles have a payroll this low, since they dumped the contracts of Donovan McNabb, Brian Westbrook, Kevin Curtis, Shawn Andrews, Stacy Andrews, Darren Howard, Chris Clemons, Reggie Brown, Sheldon Brown, and Chris Gocong last offseason.
Of course, no post on BGN is complete without noting that nobody can sign free agents until a new CBA is worked out. But if the owners and NFLPA can get it done, the Eagles have no excuse not to go out a splurge in free agency this season, even with new contracts for Michael Vick and DeSean Jackson upcoming in the near future.
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Who’s the guard from Atlanta I would love to see him in eagles green also. Move tod to RT and boom the line is secure.
by Phourth_Horseman on Feb 8, 2011 3:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Todd Weiner!?!?!

My backup quarterback hunts wild hogs and kills rattlesnakes in his free time...What does your quarterback do?
Yes Weiner
Than move herramans to RG the line is set use our first to trade for a big time DT / DE sign Namdi and bang draft some depth we are set.
by Phourth_Horseman on Feb 8, 2011 4:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
herremans is a joke
justice is a better tackle .. everytime herremans goes out there he gets beat .. they had to rush peters back into games
by jack is better than asante on Feb 8, 2011 4:48 PM EST up reply actions
EDIT!
No way.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
Not a Herramans fan? I thought he did a nice job at LG this past year.
by Phourth_Horseman on Feb 8, 2011 5:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He did.
He just shouldn’t be moved to tackle.
"He wasn't an astronaut, he was a tv comedian! And he was just using space travel as a metaphor for beating his wife!"
Herremans sucks as a tackle. I would rather have King Dunlap playing tackle.
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
Good guard bad tackle
Got it. With Vick being a left-handed QB is there anyone on the FA market that could be that " Left Tackle" feet with the right tackle strength?
by Phourth_Horseman on Feb 8, 2011 6:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
In my opinion Jared Gaither would be the perfect player for the Eagles to get. He was a LT on the Ravens, but was moved to RT when Oher started fucking shit up. He got pissed and was put on IR with a back injury. I think he would be good with being our RT since he’s protecting Vick’s blindside.
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
Jared gainther
Would be a nice pickup but, I just got out of a bad relationship with an O- lineman who had back issues and I don’t want to go through that again.
by Phourth_Horseman on Feb 8, 2011 9:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Hell yeah I wrote this a few weeks ago..
He’d want decent money though and with his injury we might be a little skeptical
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
No, I love him at LG next to Peters where he should and will stay..
Why tear apart the only spot on our OL that’s had any continuity over the past 2 years?
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
We better get Namdi in first day of FA
In 20 We Trust
by Lyons81 on Feb 8, 2011 2:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
your right Asomugha would look great on an Eagles jersey
I’d have to get one too
by flyeaglesfly1020 on Feb 8, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
White green or alternate? Hmmm
He hit him in a bad spot... the hands.
by DaaaBirdsDaBirds on Feb 8, 2011 4:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yet again
He’ll get his entire house renovated by the time he’s done cashing in all of these buy-outs.
"This is one of the top 10 biggest bonehead trades in the history of the NFL."
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by goodfella46er on Feb 8, 2011 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Let me finish this for you...
Joselio Hanson… we’re going to need your jersey number.
… Oh and your playbook.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
False.
He’s a strong nickel corner. I just never want to see him on the outside again.
Veritas Liberabit Te
I actually think they should move him outside………………..of Philly.
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
by DickMuffin on Feb 8, 2011 8:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Really? He should be a strong Nickel CB,
anybody we put there can do well.. Patterson, Lindley and whatever other bum we can find >>> Hanson.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
Poor Mexican fellow
constantly needs to change his number
I’m salivating at the possibilities. This CBA better get worked out soon.
"I like prime rib and I'd love to win a Super Bowl. I'm hungry for both of them." -Andy Reid
Seriously
Considering Kolb should also net us a high pick, we’ll have money to burn in free agency and the picks to add at least two top-40 prospects, which would make for a great great offseason.
I have a bad feeling this is going to drag out, but an early ending to the CBA would get the ball rolling.
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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
But what about the CBA
oh yea wait. You got it covered. Strong work.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
look at the teams near the bottom of the pile
i believe those teams (minus carolina) are going to be serious contenders over the next couple of years.
i love how were the 5th lowest and yet were still continued contenders in the nfc. it shows that our FO actually knows whats going on.
oh, and go get namdi i guess?
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I'm a little shocked...
that the Redskins aren’t higher.
Let the beasting begin.
Dallas...
aging roster and top of the salary cap. 6-10 for 2010. got to love it.
by Stuk on Feb 8, 2011 3:08 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
The way Reid`s
already attacking the offseason, I wouldnt be surprised that he attacks the FA market aggressively as well……let`s hope so
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At least this year, there doesn’t seem to be any correlation between how much money was devoted to player salaries and on-field performance. Eagles and Chiefs made the playoffs and they were at the bottom, Atlanta and New England are in the middle, Packers and Jets were near the top.
Cap number is another important part of the CBA, though. Owners want the cap number and actual salary to be much closer than it is right now.
yeh but
Desean is makin pennies……MAclin, mccoy not so much…vick pennies compared to what he will get and the Defense is real young as well…..
The Eagles have a window of maybe 3-4 years then they will break the bank and or lose some of these players…..especially when adding a guy like Nnamdi
FLY #7 FLY !!!
Obviously Nnamdi would be a the premier pick-up, but there’s a bunch of other FA’s that could make an impact on the team.
Linebackers:
Chad Greenway, Manny Lawson, Brandon Siler, James Anderson
DBs
Eric Weddle, Brent Grimes, Charlie Peprah
I had a sloppy mancrush on Weddle when he was drafted
Let’s not forget that Logan Mankins might also be available.
by Tracer Bullet on Feb 8, 2011 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
I’d be good with Greenway.
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"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
Dude, look at their team before Rice and after Rice.. Look at his past production..
If they don’t franchise Rice and the Eagles don’t go after him I’m going to be pissed.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
If the Vikings don’t franchise Rice, you want the Eagles to sign him??
Please tell me I’m misinterpreting what you just said.
Yeah
I think the “he” is Greenway. Here’s my question though- did Rice have any impact after he came back from his injury last year? Favre def looked his way, but I don’t think he did much with those chances.
by LegendKnight22 on Feb 9, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
You say Rice will get tagged.
And I say Greenway. Whoever gets it right changes his avatar picture to the Dallas Cowboy logo for a day.
by LegendKnight22 on Feb 9, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
No.
Whoever loses has to put this as their avatar.

Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
So the Eagles are really cheap?
/ignorant fan’d
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by EREX21 on Feb 8, 2011 3:18 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Entry level contracts. They’ll get paid.
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Very true. But they will still have some cabbage left over to plug their holes and improve if they can get the guys they want.
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by EREX21 on Feb 8, 2011 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
oh for sure
its just still a reality that they have a small window of a few years here where theyll have all this talent before they start losing them cause they wont be able to afford everyone. Roseman better stay sharp in the draft.
FLY #7 FLY !!!
by BWestFactor on Feb 8, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
That's the reason you keep yourself in good cap position
So that when you have that good core of players coming off a good season you can go out and get the one or two players that put you over the top.Think 03 we were so close went out got kerse and TO than bang
by Phourth_Horseman on Feb 8, 2011 6:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Worst comes to worst, they don’t get Nnamdi, they can always go after Champ Bailey. He would probably be a cheaper alternative, and not too much of a step down. He automatically becomes the best cover corner in the NFC east. IMO. He had another great yr in Denver, minus one bad game, the first game against KC, where Dwayne Bowe was torching everyone, Champ included. But the 2nd game, Champ shut him down. That was his only poor game all yr.
Even so, I think champ at S is an upgrade over Mikell. You could move Allen over to SS, and Champ could play FS, or switch roles, and have Champ play a more cover SS, whichever. I am a Mikell hater though, keep that in mind. I’ve read though that Q. is a great locker room presence. Again, I think Champ would be an upgrade over Q. IMO.
I think champ at S is an upgrade over Mikell.
No.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
by Imp on Feb 8, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Champ would be an FS
corners almost never move down in the box like SSs.
So he wouldn’t be replacing Mikell (and I’m in the group that appreciates him and would like him back) anyway.
It’s too bad, because he’s a heck of a Plan B at corner. I’d take someone young and available though.
Man if there’s no CBA til August, free agency is going to be an insane weeklong shopping spree.
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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
You’re right about Q in the locker room. He’s clearly one of the leaders on the team. I’d put him 2 behind, surprisingly, Michael Vick.
But I disagree about Q as a player. He’s nowhere near as replaceable as a lot of people think, in my opinion.
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Q is the best FA safety available. I will personally sneak EvilBanner into Banner’s office and enjoy the festivities. Those who are thinking sexually are homosexual perverts :)
- I will personally sneak EvilBanner into Banner’s office and enjoy the festivities, if Q is not resigned.
I don't know...
Sneaking EB into Banners’ office for the hell of it sounds pretty funny.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
by Imp on Feb 8, 2011 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
no way
mikell is not the best saftey avalible .. hes over rated by eagles fans .. hes average .. hes not even better than a healthty nate allen
by jack is better than asante on Feb 8, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
Umm, Mikel is all over the fucking place making plays.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
But he doesn’t have dreads. Hence he sucks.
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
by DickMuffin on Feb 8, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ahh damn, I forgot the logic..
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
Wild eagle
You know Jack is an inorgant jackass dint give him the satisfaction by responding to his type first ignore the facts posting.
by Phourth_Horseman on Feb 8, 2011 6:51 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i remember seeing a post that he was one of the top ranked safeties this year. or it might of been a article.
still, i hope they keep him for a few years.
by eagsfanMBG22 on Feb 8, 2011 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
wild_eagle responds to the jackasses
so the rest of us don’t have to.
Anyway, JIBTA is a meme at this point, we have a fairly good guess what his opinions are. He hates Herremans and Mikell for reasons he rarely fully explains, and loooooves MJG and … I don’t know.
Point is there are differing camps on Mikell, even among those who know football really well.
I think we can all agree that if he’s back, he’s at least capable of not being the weak link. He can be a cog in a defense stacked with talent … the key this offseason is for the Eagles to stack it.
Mikell is also one of those bleed green guys, and his best opportunity to win a championship might be by accepting a reasonable 3-year deal and staying put. I think it’s very possible he’s worth more to us than we’ll have to pay him.
I think the Eagles will want him back and it’ll be an easy deal to make once free agency opens. He’s never once clamored for a huge deal that I know of.
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I agree with all of these points.
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by Dylan Marck on Feb 8, 2011 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dude, Mikel is a damn good player.. I'd hate to see him walk,
honestly he’s playing like a 26 year old kid out there.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
Mikell would probably still be a cheaper option...but..
Its not the worst idea ever, although I would like them to keep Q
FLY #7 FLY !!!
It may be one of those “you dont know what you have til it’s gone” type of deals. I usually appreciate that, but with Q, I just don’t see it on the field always. I feel (w/no examples, sorry) that he is not always mentally there. His awareness. I guess going from Dawk to Mikell has been more of a let down for me these past couple yrs than I expected.
lets hope they set the cap at 136
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by Joe_D on Feb 8, 2011 3:23 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
+1
That would be fantastic. Haha…
by 92-74-99-96 on Feb 8, 2011 7:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The Tamba Bay Bucs are going to be a force next year and beyond. I predict the Eagles will sign two big name free agents.
I'd be happy with one big name
(As long as the initials are NA)
Then maybe another second tier FA to fill a hole.
After that we can re-sign our own and fill the rest of the roster through the draft.
NA?
Nate Allen. There’s your big name. Ballhawk.
by firstroundpick on Feb 8, 2011 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
Amazing what little bang for their buck Dallas and Denver got.
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5th in cap. Man……..there have been A LOT of bad signings. Cannot believe all the money that is invested in 1st rd busts and vets who cannot play anymore. They only good players, especially on the defensive side, probably won’t even be back next yr if Xanders has any say. Bye bye Dj Williams & Champ Bailey.
But at least there is Tim Tebow……..
I also want to make a reminder that if Vick gets tagged, that’s 20 mil against the cap next year. So basically our cap would be at 100 mil. I expect Desean’s to be at around 6-7. So that leaves the Eagles around 30 mil to get a couple top notch players.
Kolb
Was 12 Mil of that cap lastyear so that makes the Vick signing that much less of a wallet hit.
by Phourth_Horseman on Feb 8, 2011 5:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I know but the cap number would still be 100 after the tag. It’s at 80 now, after Kolb’s 12 mil got paid out.
by Route36 on Feb 8, 2011 9:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Thought it was the 2010 payroll numbers till I went back…. Can you tell me if players can be traded for cap room. Not in the salary dump but, player for $x room ex: Kolb to SF for 9 mil in cash / cap space.?
by Phourth_Horseman on Feb 8, 2011 10:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Double Standard
There seems to be a pretty big double standard set up by us fans. We claim to hate (and we pretty much always do) when the eagles sign a player on the cheap (because it usually means they’re injured—marlin jackson—or they suck—ernie sims); but on the flip side, we laud them for being so far under the cap. Just an observation.
I don’t know if we laud them for being under the cap so much. I can only speak for myself, but when I see that the Eagles are far under the cap, I get all fired up thinking up what they can do with it. Those are 2 different things. I most certainly won’t be happy if they go into the season with a ton of cap space and glaring holes in their roster.
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by JimmyK on Feb 8, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I most certainly won’t be happy if they go into the season with a ton of cap space and glaring holes in their roster.
You mean like this past year?
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There wasn’t really much of a free agency last year though because of the expiring CBA. When one of the top 5 guys is Chester Taylor, that’s not a strong group.
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by JimmyK on Feb 8, 2011 4:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh I don’t disagree. I know the Birds made serious runs at Peppers and Kampman and came up short, not for a lack of effort but you are right, last year’s F.A class was pretty awful.
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I don’t think they went after peppers as aggressively as they could have ( they didn’t have thier mind set on getting him)
by Phourth_Horseman on Feb 8, 2011 5:54 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
They definitely did
As strong a push for him as the bears, probably not, but they were desperate for him
I think $90mil over 6 years was out of their range
Just a guess. Assuming the Bears don’t win anything next year, they’ll probably begin to get declining returns on that investment after 2-3 seasons.
I also think that burned them and now that their stars are peaking and Vick is clearly top-notch for maybe another year or two, they’ll be willing to go balls out and maybe even take on a bad deal or two … but who knows?
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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
Don't get too excited
After Vick and DeSean’s contracts are added in, there won’t be a whole lot of room for marquee FAs.
Does anyone know what kind of a cap hit the Eagles would take if they cut Joselio Hanson??
They are still going to have to fill out the roster
The Eagles have tons of UFAs and will still need to save money for the draft. I think they have enough money for one big dip in the FA pool, and then probably 1 other more medium-priced FA.
Lol…
The Eagles are going to franchise Vick which means his salary will be the average of the top 5 at his position.
In 2009 the QB franchise tag price was 14.6 million dollars and that has only gone up since Sam Bradford’s and Tom Brady’s contracts.
Then DeSean needs an extension as well and he will want a big deal that would match recent extensions of other top receivers. If you figure that DeSean’s contract will be similar to recent extensions of top receivers (Johnson, White, Boldin, Jennings, Austin, Marshall) the figures of the deal would average out to be: 5-6 years, about 45 million dollars with about 18-21 million guaranteed. And for those asking his production does match up with those receivers at the time of extension with 24 all purpose touchdowns, only 1 short of Andre Johnson who had 25.
Not to mention that the Eagles have Stewart Bradley, Quintin Mikell and other players coming off the books that they are likely to bring back.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
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Keep in mind d-jack, that the franchise tag is probably only a temporary thing. Vick will cost them a nice chunk of change for sure, but that tag will be nothing more than a way to keep other teams from making him offers while they look to get a long term deal in place. Once that longterm deal is in place, it should be somewhere around 12-14 million/year – I’ll go on the high end and call it 14. Add in the 6-7 million/year DeSean should get, and they’d still be below the NFL average.
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I just don’t think the cap space will be there to bring in more than one big FA after all the other resignings and extensions get done, plus keeping some money to sign draft picks.
Why not? There’s an absurd amount of space the Eagles have to play with.
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/
Yeah I think it can be finagled ...
… there’s room to play with.
Now who knows if that many free agents will want to sign, but hopefully they can do it.
Plus it’s almost guaranteed with a new rookie scale and the No. 23 pick going to a lineman that they won’t have to save a ton of $ for their first-rounder.
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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome
I want VietNnam and Greenway..
Instantly improves our D 10 fold.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
Why would the Vikings let Greenway leave?
I don’t see it happening.
by bwin29 on Feb 8, 2011 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
hes an unrestricted FA on a team that's without a QB.. He'll want to return to a contender...
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
Yes, I realize that.. But he wouldn't be a RFA if we go back to before teh CBA expired..
they also have 2-3 other players they’d like to retain.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
I knew vietnnammmmm would catch on haha
He hit him in a bad spot... the hands.
by DaaaBirdsDaBirds on Feb 8, 2011 5:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
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No reason to sign this moron , as we all seen Sunday he is why the eagles didn’t even sniff the superbowl !!!! Anyone can over throw and under throw the best wide receivers in the game.
by james david ryan on Feb 8, 2011 4:35 PM EST reply actions
Just get it done
HAHAHA, the aints forever i guess
by XxActionJacksonxX on Feb 8, 2011 4:38 PM EST reply actions
Playoffs = Spending?
It’s interesting that the teams that did well in the playoffs this year are near the top of the chart.
Some sort of correlation?
Surprisingly, there isn’t much of a correlation that I can see, aside from the 2 Super Bowl teams being in the top 7. The playoff teams rank 2, 3, 7, 8, 12, 13, 17, 18, 19, 27, 28, and 30, so it’s kind of all over the place.
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Average
If you average those out it equals 15.33. With 16.5 being the median(middle) its actually just north of halfway. So you can basically say that thr salary cap has no correlation with the playoffs.
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by HeStillHateMe on Feb 8, 2011 5:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Cap Room
It’s tough to predict exactly how much money they have to spend until we figure out how much money they will need for basic roster maintenance. Sam from IgglesBlog did an in-depth look at this situation here: http://www.igglesblog.com/iggles_blog/2010/11/contract-futures-mike-vick.html
I will borrowing heavily from Sam here since he knows what he is talking about. If we assume that the cap is going to end up around 130-135 M, which should be somewhat close to what it ends up being, the Eagles have 50-55 M to spend. They have 17 of their own UFAs, and also need to save money for draft picks and other maneuvering once the season starts (how often do the Eagles spend right up to the cap limit??). The Eagles are also going to want to save room for possible extensions for LeSean McCoy, Trent Cole, maybe Mike McGlynn, maybe Antonio Dixon, as well as for Vick and DeSean. Quintin Mikell and Stewart Bradley are players who are leaving behind starting positions that the Eagles would need to spend a fair amount of money to either re-sign or replace with a player of similar caliber. Akers and Rocca are also FAs. Depth in the form of Nick Cole, Max Jean-Gilles, Akeem Jordan.
When all is said and done, I can’t see how they will have more than about 15-20 M to spend on outside FAs. Which would mean probably Asomugha if they can get him and not a whole lot else.
A few things:
- The Eagles are going to let most of those 17 UFA’s walk (guys like Hobbs, Buckley, Wells, McCray, Abiamiri, Sims, Gaither, to name a few).
- Trent Cole is signed through 2013. That’s an eternity away.
- LeSean McCoy is signed through 2012. If they can get an extension done this year, it’ll be very team-friendly since they’d be ripping up 2 extremely team-friendly years. Otherwise, it’ll be something to worry about during the 2012 season.
- McGlynn and Dixon aren’t going to cost much to re-up, nor will the depth guys you noted (Jordan, MJG, Nick Cole), nor will the kickers.
- They are also going to shed some money as well – Marlin Jackson is set to make $2M. He’s gone. Juqua Parker is set to make $3.5M. He could be gone. Joselio Hanson is set to make just shy of $2M. Justice might not be back. He makes just shy of $3M. That’s about another $10M right there if they decide to go that route.
Even with Vick and Jackson, the Eagles, compared to the rest of the league, have all sorts of cap space.
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by JimmyK on Feb 8, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
(how often do the Eagles spend right up to the cap limit??).
Man this myth will never die.
They usually start the season with cap room, then extend young players early in the season or pay out more in LTBEs.
I’m sure this past season was an exception with the offseason contract purge, but the Eagles were famous for spending in the top 5 in the league on players while also using LTBE exceptions and other cap tricks to keep available space.
So in their case, cap space didn’t always = cheap.
Here’s a good read from 2008 that exposes how the Eagles and Vikings use the tricks:
http://www.askthecommish.com/salarycap/adjustment.asp
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That is exactly what I meant.
I know that they ULTIMATELY spend close up to the limit. The point I was trying to make was that they don’t get to that point before the season starts. The purposely keep room carved out for items like the ones you list. Therefore, the amount of available money for potential FA acquisitions in the offseason leading up to that year is not quite as big as it seems.
Fair enough
I’m sometimes a little too quick on the trigger to correct certain oft-repeated falsehoods.
In any case, I see this being anything but a typical offseason for the Eagles as their actions seem to reflect what we’ve all wanted them to for a while — that they feel this team is ready to win a Super Bowl and they can spare no expense in trying because they’re in good shape for the future regardless.
Let’s hope it pans out that way.
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Keep in mind owners are trying to reduce costs
Since they are clearly out in front on the leverage side, that cap limit might not end up being as high as a lot of people are expecting.
This makes me feel like
I should cover my bed in one dollar bills and roll around in them.
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So if Free Agency normally starts March 5th at 12:01AM and a new Agreement is not in place yet, what will be the outcome?
Astra Inclinant, Non Necessitant
I’ve actually wondered whether or not teams can sign players to future/reserve contracts after the CBA expires.
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There will be no movement after March 4
if there is not a deal in place.
Only the draft will proceed as scheduled. Everything else will come to a total halt, if I understand correctly.
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Added Bonus
Think of how much money they saved with all these coaching hires over the past two weeks.
by andyreidswaistline on Feb 8, 2011 6:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I know you're just joking
But line coaches are supposedly the most expensive, and coaching contracts are not subject to the cap, so one way you find out if a team wants to win is see what they spend on coaches.
That said, Castillo is probably one of your lower-paid DCs even though he has quite a few years in the NFL. And lots of young guys on staff.
Mudd and Washburn could not have been cheap, and Marty probably makes a nice buck. As does April.
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April’s still there, and his son is too. lol.
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by phillyeaglesfan4life on Feb 8, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
I was going by this: There are now 2 Aprils on staff
Johnnie Lynn was hired to be the secondary/cornerbacks coach, and Bobby April, Jr., was named defensive quality control coach.
David Culley was promoted to senior offensive assistant/wide receivers. James Urban becomes assistant offensive co-ordinator. Doug Pederson is the new quarterbacks coach. And Duce Staley will serve as special teams quality control coach.
Lynn joins the Eagles after a five-year stint in San Francisco, working as the 49ers secondary coach. April, the son of Philadelphia’s special teams co-ordinator Bobby April, spent 2010 as special teams co-ordinator and safeties coach at Nicholls State.
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CB or a DT?
Nnamdi Asomugha/ Brent Grimes/ Antonio Cromartie or a defensive tackle like Haynesworth/ Ngata?
I’d take a shut down corner.
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by phillyeaglesfan4life on Feb 8, 2011 7:05 PM EST reply actions
I dont want to sound dumb
But can teams trade players for cap space?
by Phourth_Horseman on Feb 8, 2011 7:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
we need to draft DT marvin Austin from north car. the dude would have been 1st over all at DT if he didnt get suspended. and the dude Taylor from Baylor 320 and fast and light on his feet..(Bunkley didnt have that lol.)and sign Nnamdi and maybe another corner like richard marshall from Car. fast and a good tackler and that team sucks. then we can draft pounceys brother kid was a probowler his rookie year. maybe we can get the same performance at OG. AND i really hope we get Plaxico no one would be able to stop us HAHA Eagles all day
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by eagleflownsouth on Feb 8, 2011 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
Lol
Plaxico an eagle? lol.
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by phillyeaglesfan4life on Feb 8, 2011 7:51 PM EST reply actions
I wish we had one more half decent corner
Then the eagles could dumb hanson and that bad contract before the new cba.
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CBA
This new CBA better get done ASAP. I can’t wait for some free agency fireworks!
by Popps on Feb 8, 2011 8:21 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Those numbers are somewhat deceiving. Michael Vick has no contract for 2011 and franchise players money is not included in the math. Anyway, Vick’s salary would make the Eagles go up on this list only 6-7 spots, I guess. The FO will still have room for aggressive free agency moves.
As noted above & elsewhere
Kolb made $11 mil last year and Vick made $5 mil, so even if Vick makes $20 mil, our overall spending on QBs won’t go up much since Kolb will either be gone or here making less than 2 mil.
In fact, probably a better way to look at it is not in relation to what we did last season, but what we’re going to have to spend per position or per player this coming season.
As noted in charts in the original JimmyK post and on eaglescap.com, you’re looking at Peters and Samuel making $6 mil each, Maclin and Cole making 3 mil each, for a total of $18 mil. Those guys are definitely back.
Factor in whatever raises you want for Vick (20) and Djax (6), and re-signing Mikell (3) and Bradley (3). Now we’re at 44 mil. Celek and Avant , Herremans and Patterson each make one-point something. So 49 or 50.
Then there are 18 young players — from Jamar Chaney to Nate Allen to Clay Harbor to Colt Anderson to Fokou to McCoy — who WILL make the roster and who are making 405,000 or thereabouts, plus Dorenbos making 800,000. So that’s another 10 mil.
Long story short, you see where I’m going with this. We’ve got 30 essential players under contract for $60 mil., and that’s including Vick and Jackson’s new deals.
We can definitely get the next 23 under contract for 40-50 million more, even if another 15 or 20 of it went to two players. There’s probably still room to overpay Juqua Parker and Daryl Tapp and Winston Justice, et. al.
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Y'all gonna give Joe Banner some credit
All this noise about the cap space… Y’all singing a different tune now… Y’all were saying about cheep Joe? hahahah… Was peppers worth all that money… *^%& NO Asamougha with Asante … Yea… Does Washburn presence in Philly give us a shot at a Fat Albert ready to play football for Philly… Hmmm would Haynesworth have a chip on his shoulder anytime we played Shannahan Deadskins… Wooo… I like Q but we need to upgrade his spot… Too many mental mistakes without Dawk backing him up… Need more size speed at DB… Hanson has to go… Need a taller more physical WR with DJax and Maclin on the field, they seem to disappear too often against the bigger faster and more physical DB in the league… How about Mathais Kiwunaka instead of Babin … Hmmm… Thanks Cheap Joe I can hope and dream because of your cap management… Go Eagles.
Sheesh
This is like beating a dead dog , we need a QB ! End of story. Oh wait a real coach may help.
by james david ryan on Feb 9, 2011 2:20 AM EST reply actions
So what is there plan???
I think they go after above average to good RG/CB in free agency and see where they can get the best value. That should help decide their draft strategy. If they can bring in a guy Mudd approves of for $5 million at RG, it will happen.
The great thing about the Eagles position is that even if they spend 15 million on Vick and 12 million on DeSean, they still have roughly $30 million left over.
If you add the following:
1) RG is free agency
2) Bigtime Defensive End
3) Move up in the draft and get a CB that can start
4) Draft a LB in the third round (early for Reid, I know)
Right there you have a team with four new starters.
DE,DT,LB,LB,CB is needed
sad thing is most SB winners their DT,CB,DE,FS,SS are first rounders and LB’s are second round
Andy reid all 9 playoff losses ave 12 rushes
mcCoy ave 5.2 Harrison ave 6 a carry mcCoy 12ru Harrison 1
Super Winners ave 27+ during the season and playoffs
yes Packers only rushed 11 but Big ben GAVE them great field position,,,,,plus packers ran 3 other playoff games especially eagles starks ran 25 times 125 yds..
QB against Packers D
Matty ice 68 passing % 1 TD 2 INT
Ben _ 62% _________ 2TD 2 INT
Vick_____ 55%___________1 td 1 INT
cutler_____42 %__________0td 1 int
your syntax is making my eyes bleed
DTMWTD
by alcatraz0109 on Feb 9, 2011 4:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Number of points team lost to Packers by
Vick — 5
Ben — 6
Cutler — 7
Ryan — 27
You can make stats say just about anything you want them to say.
There’s a fairly legitimate argument out there that no team played the Packers tougher in the playoffs than the Eagles did, considering the Bears and Steelers trailed by quite a few more than they ended up losing by. I guess we did too, but we had a shot to win in the final minute.
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Nice work Jimmy
Saw Sheil mentioned this today.
Proof we’re all reading each other, I guess.
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