The Biggest Over-hyped Eagles...Literally
We have one of the brightest group of Bloggers here at BGN. My favorite part about BGN is the members here are avid Eagle fans that give intellectual posts and discussions on one site (most of the time :/). However, it it impossible for any blogger/fan to be completely un-bias when giving input of their favorite team or players. While I believe in the strength of the Eagles talent, there are a few are over-hyped by members here. Juqa Parker and Quintin Mikell are players that are over-hyped by some, but those critiques are for another day. I am here to critique two of the biggest over-hyped players on the Philadelphia Eagles squad...literally.
via c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com (Patterson (98) 300 lbs, Bunkley (97) 306 lbs)
I hate them, like Joe_D hates McNabb. It can't be helped. But, I can help you (maybe).
1. The myth of the 2-gap system
People here believe that they are solid players and that there numbers and plays are misrepresented because of the system that JJ ran, which was a two-gap system. In a two-gap system, the defensive tackle reads the play while being responsible for two gaps or holes in the offensive line, the gap closest to the center is the A gap and the gap in between the guard and tackle is the B gap. Then they penetrate their gap, forcing the running back to cut back. The key word is penetrate.
In other schemes, the tackle will be responsible for two gaps. In this case the tackle will line up directly facing an offensive lineman, and his job will be to push that lineman backwards and make sure the running back doesn't run past on either side of his lineman.
Pushing the offensive line in football is penetrating. In a two gap system, penetration is key. Hell, penetration is key on both sides of the ball. The offense wants to penetrate the defense, and the defense wants to penetrate to tackle the ball carrier. Where do you want to make the tackle 5 yards behind the line of scrimmage or 5 yards down field? If you chose the first option, you need penetration.
2. Run defense and the useless brothers
The Eagles defense under JJ was a stout and feared defense that constantly brought pressure and stopped the run with penetration. And the Eagles D after JJ has still been pretty good against the run. However, should Patterson and Bunkley be given most of the credit since they supposed to be key run stoppers in a two-gap system?
Both Patterson and Bunkley took starting jobs in 2007 and have played together until the 2010 season with Bunkley going down with an elbow injury. So 2007-2009 will be critiqued. Stats from NFL.com and Football Outsiders.com
Eagles Defense Running Stats: 2007
- 7th
- 1,533 total rushing yards
- Avg Per Play: 3.8
- Avg Per Game 95.8
- Runs allowed in Middle: 4.16 per rush
- Middle rank: 21st
Eagles Defense Running Stats: 2008
- 4th
- 1, 476 total rushing yards
- Avg per play: 3.5
- Avg per game: 92.2
- Runs allowed in Middle: 4.21 per rush
- Middle Rank: 13th
Eagles Defense Running Stats: 2009
- 7th
- 1, 675 total rushing yards
- Avg per play: 4.1
- Avg per game: 104.7
- Runs allowed in Middle: 3.57 per rush
- Middle Rank: 6th
Brodrick Bunkley 2009 stats: 30 tackles, 7 assists, 1.0 sacks
Mike Patterson 2009 stats: 42 tackles, 14 assists, 1.5 tackles
Poor? I think yes. If anything, Patterson was doing most of the work between the two. But for dominate run-stopping teams you need more than 1 DT showing up.
This quote is from d-jackfan10 on Eagles Position Review: DT's. Usually he is spot on. But he over-hypes our DT's,especially Patterson. What he forgets about this stat is that Antonio Dixon played this season, not so much of Bunkley, even when he got better from the elbow injury. Dixon's presence was huge this season in the middle and played the two-gap system better than anyone on our team.Sorry, I assumed everyone knew about FO and that they knew how to navigate the site.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/dl
Go to the bottom chart and this these numbers are there:
PHI: 4.07 / 14 // 3.08 / 2 // 3.37 / 2 // 4.58 / 24 // 3.71 / 13
On runs outside the left tackle opposing teams averaged 4.07 YPC which for the Eagles defense was 14th best in the NFL. Against runs behind the left side of the line teams averaged 3.08 YPC, 2nd best in the NFL. Against runs up the middle teams averaged 3.37 YPC, 2nd best in the NFL. When teams ran behind the right side of their line they averaged 4.5 YPC and runs to the outside of the left tackle averaged 3.71 yards per carry.
I think they are poor in run-stoppage if they show up every 1/3 seasons don't you? If stopping the run for them is a weakpoint the only other phase is.....
3. Pass Rush If you thought their run-stoppage was weak, wait till you see their pass rushing. Bunkley Sacks: 2007: 3.0 2008: 2.0 2009: 1.0 2010: 0.0
Patterson Sacks: 2005: 3.5 2006: 1.5 2007: 4.0 2008: .5 2009: 1.5 2010: 2.0
Those aren't very good to say the least, Patterson had two good pass-rushing seasons in 2005 and 2007, but has been quite since while Bunkley hasn't even made noise. What is even wore is that the Eagles take them out in 3rd downs that are guaranteed passing situations. DE's like Darren Howard, Juqa Parker and recently Darryl Tapp. Why would the coaching staff take Pat and Bunk of the field if they were good in passing situations? They don't get much sacks because they can't penetrate, not so much the "two-gap system". If you can't play on third down, that makes you one-dimensional as a player. And if in the only situations you do play in, you play poor, then your aren't good period.
4. Things that are just as good as Pat and Bunk while being cheaper Joe Banner and Jeffery Lurie, listen up I'm about to give you 5 things that won't penetrate the line but will be way cheaper...and 5 things that are better than them 1. A parked school bus
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2. A large pile of rocks
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3. A beached Whale
via www.indymedia.ie (wait is that Bunkley or a whale?)
4. This thing
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5. Snorlax
5 things that are better that
1. Megan Fox
via www.examiner.com
2. Katy Perry
3. Brooklyn Decker
2. Snorlax
1. Number5 (me not mcnabb)
(lol, in no particular order of course!)
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let me tell you something
You cant throw a pitcure of megan fox up there and exspect people to read a word of your post..
seriously lol


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by Udalango on Feb 8, 2011 3:02 AM EST reply actions 6 recs
<ihttp://www.gifsoup.com/view/40989/megan-fox.html][IMG]http://www.gifsoup.com/imager.php?id=40989>
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"Do you know where we are going?" she said.
"To solve the mystery of the eternal hereafter, I imagine," I replied.
-- _The Gods of Mars_
oops

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"Do you know where we are going?" she said.
"To solve the mystery of the eternal hereafter, I imagine," I replied.
-- _The Gods of Mars_
DEAL BREAKER!
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My backup quarterback hunts wild hogs and kills rattlesnakes in his free time...What does your quarterback do?
lol true then here

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"Do you know where we are going?" she said.
"To solve the mystery of the eternal hereafter, I imagine," I replied.
-- _The Gods of Mars_
or this

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"Do you know where we are going?" she said.
"To solve the mystery of the eternal hereafter, I imagine," I replied.
-- _The Gods of Mars_
Um
Looking at that picture after looking at the other one, makes me feel kind of dirty.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
agreed
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"Do you know where we are going?" she said.
"To solve the mystery of the eternal hereafter, I imagine," I replied.
-- _The Gods of Mars_
Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger.
-Glen Cook The Black Company
gotta green this shit the fuck up!
"This is one of the top 10 biggest bonehead trades in the history of the NFL."
-Redskins TE Chris Cooley
by Ralf E Chubbs on Feb 9, 2011 1:57 AM EST up reply actions
WHAT?!
You know whats overhyped? Megan Fox. New girl (Rosie Huntington-Whitely) > Megan Fox.



And any thread that has hot women and doesn’t have Scarlett Johansson is a fail.

But at least you got Brooklyn Decker!

And basically I don’t think I agreed with anything you said. Sorry.
And just because she is really hot….

And I don’t agree about Bunkley and Patterson but w/e, thats not the point of this thread any longer.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
"It's simple, ... I'm always striving to do more. Whatever I accomplish, it's not enough. I don't get satisfied. That's not my nature." -Brian Dawkins
"Well as long as you want to get it right it's Princess Buttercup... Jackass." -Udalango
by d-jackfan10 on Feb 8, 2011 4:14 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
so many hotter women than scarlett
that didn’t make that short list. kate beckinsale for one.
and that chicks face is goofy
by SuburbanElite on Feb 8, 2011 10:43 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that scarlett gif is like sooooo random
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"Do you know where we are going?" she said.
"To solve the mystery of the eternal hereafter, I imagine," I replied.
-- _The Gods of Mars_
Nope, sorry.
Your description and commentary on the way the 2-Gap system should work is misguided and misleading.
You are misunderstanding the difference in your first block quote between “pushing” and “rushing,” which is a critical difference in technique and intent.
“Pushing” as a defensive lineman in football absolutely does not equal “penetrating.”
Anyway, back to pictures of titties.
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I have a hard time taking just an overall rushing stat and using that as the final evidence of how just the defensive tackles played.
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Snorlax would make a much better OT than DT. Though there’s the issue of keeping him fed. Does all that food count against the salary crap?
Never argue with an idiot. They'll bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
screw that
i would rather have andy reid in the game. He’s more mobile, got an amazing 2 inch vertical, and we won’t have that persistent problem of waking him up for every play.
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by Ayachuco1998 on Feb 8, 2011 10:13 AM EST up reply actions
Rec for meghan fox and Katy Perry.. the 2 women I love in the world.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
you guys dont know shit about women....Katy Perry and Megan Fox are overrated
Amy Reid




Enough Said
"if you’re going to act like bitches, then I will treat you like bitches". - AR
Do you hear that? That's the sound of the media ramming the Miracle at the New Meadowlands down your throat for the rest of your life...BAHAHAHAHA....
that chick in the doily is busted
get your eyes checked, those girls might be stripper hot, but megan fox is straight up hot.
by PoorSports on Feb 8, 2011 10:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
pornstar alert
one my favorites though ;)
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 9, 2011 12:00 AM EST up reply actions
I love this post it combines my two favorite things….
The eagles and really hot women
Sending pics of your junk > dog killing > generally being a douche > sexual assault allegations > being on the Cowboys.
This isn't just thinking outside the box. This is outside the rhombus, trapezoid, and parallelogram
Note to self: Sexy Ladies distracts from Eagles discussion
If Revis has an Island, Asomugha should have a continent.
"beat the man in front of you, then attempt to seriously injure the quarterback."
"Reidtard" for president!!!!
Sending pics of your junk > dog killing > generally being a douche > sexual assault allegations > being on the Cowboys.
You didn't know this earlier???
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
I didnt think I would get like 3 comments about pat and bunk and the rest about sexy ladies
If Revis has an Island, Asomugha should have a continent.
"beat the man in front of you, then attempt to seriously injure the quarterback."
"Reidtard" for president!!!!
Sending pics of your junk > dog killing > generally being a douche > sexual assault allegations > being on the Cowboys.
I just put them at the end to make the mood lighter and less negative
If Revis has an Island, Asomugha should have a continent.
"beat the man in front of you, then attempt to seriously injure the quarterback."
"Reidtard" for president!!!!
Sending pics of your junk > dog killing > generally being a douche > sexual assault allegations > being on the Cowboys.
Dude, I disagree with alot of what you said but when I saw
Meghan Fox I was like ‘oh maybe this wasn’t thaaat bad…’… then I saw Katy Perry and I was like “Holy FUCK WIN WIN WIN WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
Win = fap?
haha, sorry man, had to do it.
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I'm glad you caught on...
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
A better quote from your own link:
“In a two gap scheme, the tackles are supposed to control the linemen, thus making sure that no one is blocking the linebackers behind them and the linebackers are then free to make the play and tackle the runner. So in a two gap scheme, you don’t expect the defensive tackles to have a large number of sacks or tackles. They are doing their job if the linebackers have a lot of sacks and tackles. "
Should have read the rest of the paragraph because with that your own statement is undermined. Doesn’t matter anymore anyway Washburn brings in more of a 1 gap style which is what Bunkley at least played in college(to great success btw) and if I’m not mistaking Patterson did too but he’s added quite a bit of weight to play 2 gap these last few years.
Meh so i failed
But I still don’t like Patt or Bunk :)
If Revis has an Island, Asomugha should have a continent.
"beat the man in front of you, then attempt to seriously injure the quarterback."
"Reidtard" for president!!!!
Sending pics of your junk > dog killing > generally being a douche > sexual assault allegations > being on the Cowboys.
You put Katy Perry on here...
It’s far from a fail.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
lol
so it balances out? Yay. It’s like when a restaurant or any new company finally has paid everything off to start making money. The skies the limit!
If Revis has an Island, Asomugha should have a continent.
"beat the man in front of you, then attempt to seriously injure the quarterback."
"Reidtard" for president!!!!
Sending pics of your junk > dog killing > generally being a douche > sexual assault allegations > being on the Cowboys.
Exactly...
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
Sigh...
I noticed that when it comes to tits and ass we can seem to come up with the HIGHEST resolution photos possible lol. Although I do not agree with parts of this post your inclusion of some pretty Hot females and Pokemon provide a remarkable balance. No one has posted an Eagles Cheerleader REALLY!!! LMAO
How is this a recommended fan post? The actual football portion of this post was wrong… Sigh…
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
"It's simple, ... I'm always striving to do more. Whatever I accomplish, it's not enough. I don't get satisfied. That's not my nature." -Brian Dawkins
"Well as long as you want to get it right it's Princess Buttercup... Jackass." -Udalango
Rest of it is correct, though.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
SBNation, I'm already on Facebook. Please stop sending me to it.
Yeah, the women part… But this is a football website. I’m just ticked it knocked mine off of here.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
"It's simple, ... I'm always striving to do more. Whatever I accomplish, it's not enough. I don't get satisfied. That's not my nature." -Brian Dawkins
"Well as long as you want to get it right it's Princess Buttercup... Jackass." -Udalango
Seriously?
Your mad yours is gone? It was going to happen eventually.
And so what if its a football blog you realize how often we get off topic? I mean we had an entire Jersy Shore convo
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"Do you know where we are going?" she said.
"To solve the mystery of the eternal hereafter, I imagine," I replied.
-- _The Gods of Mars_
Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger.
-Glen Cook The Black Company
No not seriously, I’m not really ticked, I just don’t want to write something new to get back to the top but I will because I’m petty and I’m an attention whore.
I mean we had an entire Jersy Shore convo
And thats different, that was Eagladelphia. Speaking of which, its on tonight.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
"It's simple, ... I'm always striving to do more. Whatever I accomplish, it's not enough. I don't get satisfied. That's not my nature." -Brian Dawkins
"Well as long as you want to get it right it's Princess Buttercup... Jackass." -Udalango
awwww okie dokie.
Im writing something tomorrow. Ill give you a “Hattip” If you rec me you can be at the top like that
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"Do you know where we are going?" she said.
"To solve the mystery of the eternal hereafter, I imagine," I replied.
-- _The Gods of Mars_
Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger.
-Glen Cook The Black Company
see my comment below
If Revis has an Island, Asomugha should have a continent.
"beat the man in front of you, then attempt to seriously injure the quarterback."
"Reidtard" for president!!!!
Sending pics of your junk > dog killing > generally being a douche > sexual assault allegations > being on the Cowboys.
Cheeeee two in a row! Im stoked
Although I agree with d-jackfan10 that I probably don’t deserve it. But hey d-jackfan10, think of it as motivation for you to kick this off with some epic fan post. And besides, your always on here, this is my second time (although undeserving)
Sexy Women + Pokemon = WIN
If Revis has an Island, Asomugha should have a continent.
"beat the man in front of you, then attempt to seriously injure the quarterback."
"Reidtard" for president!!!!
Sending pics of your junk > dog killing > generally being a douche > sexual assault allegations > being on the Cowboys.
Brooklyn Decker
is a guy with tits.
"What a gorgeous dog. What do you feed him?"
and your a chick with a dick
and a small one at that
"You tried your best and failed miserably. The lesson is: never try." Homer Simpson
by JjoneslikesbigD on Feb 11, 2011 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
How in the world
did I miss this thread?
I love the offseason...
No football so let’s put up pics of the hottest women on the planet barely clothed.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
you know how we started that tournament with the Best football movies?
We need to start one for the hottest women.
Dude I got the winner already
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
by wild_eagle on Feb 14, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
dude, you edited yours that doesn't count.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
is that rosie odonnal
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"Do you know where we are going?" she said.
"To solve the mystery of the eternal hereafter, I imagine," I replied.
-- _The Gods of Mars_
Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger.
-Glen Cook The Black Company
yes.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

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