Free Agent CB Prospects
After the bevy of great, in-depth posts, I’ve decided to spend a little more time developing this one. I want to cover every position of need that can be addressed through free agency, with a different position outlook every week (if you guys like the this first one enough). This week I will start with the corner position, which I wish there was a comprehensive site to view cornerback stats. CB is our biggest need. I know many will say o-line but look. Without a Elite Defense your o-line doesn’t mean shit. Look at the Packers and Steelers. Two mediocre o-lines. The Steelers are actually starting 4 backups in the Superbowl….more after the jump
Nnamdi Asomugha: Grade A+
The first thing that should jump out about Nnamdi are the seemingly low interception numbers and pass deflections in the past three seasons. Yet, in each of these seasons he has gained both pro-bowl (2007, 2008, 2009, 2010) and 1st team all-pro honors (2008, 2010) and 2nd team all-pro (2006, 2009). He was also just recently selected to both Fox’s and USA Today’s all-decade teams. This speaks volumes about the player that he is. He may be the only true shutdown corner currently in the NFL. I say this because even Revis can be had. Nnamdi has superior size in being 6-2 and 210 pounds and the longest arms you have ever witnessed. He excels in being a press corner. Asomugha allowed just 10 receptions on the 27 passes thrown his way. Most important, Asomugha only gave up one touchdown in the last 3 years (that to Vincent Jackson in 2009). He has amazingly quick feet and great hips-paraphrasing a quote made by Larry Fitzgerald. He has what every cornerback should have, swivel hips and great drive to the ball. He makes great cuts, running routes better than receivers due to his extensive film study. He also does not bite on double moves, which would be nice to see in Philly once in a while.
At 29 years of age, there should be a little digression about giving him a large contract, but in my mind he is the safest FA that has hit the market in recent memory (even Asante was a gamble). His current contract that he just voided was $45.3 million over 3 years with nearly $28.5 million guaranteed. This made him the richest DB in nfl history. I expect a similar contract to presented to Nnamdi by teams this offseason. Revis signed a 4 year $46 million contract , Deanglo Hall has a six year $55 million contract., Asante has a six year $57.14 million dollar contract. There is good reason to believe that he will receive a more lucrative contract than Revis (as he should). Look for a 3 year deal worth up to $50 million or a 4 year $63 million deal.
It is important to note that the raiders always played Nnamdi as a RCB, which oddly enough fits perfectly under our system (which can easily change with the new impending D- coordinator). He is very physical as well (press corner) and a willing tackler. Last year, he finished second among corners in tackles for loss (8). This takes away many screen plays and sweeps out of the opponent’s playbook due to the great play of Nnamdi in the run game and being able to diagnose screens due to his high football IQ though there is room for improvement in his run support. Nnamdi is not much of a blitzer though (racking up only 2 sacks in his career) but that’s okay because I would rather have him man 2 man on a blitz look anyway (unless your d-coordinator is McD). Forced fumbles is something that Nnamdi does not get a lot of either, but that is a tribute of offenses running and throwing to the other side of the field. Keep in mind that the passes defensed is low as well due to the number of targets that he receives. Note that there is no weakness is his game…he is that incredible.
His likelihood to sign in Philly…82%
Nnamdi Asomugha Highlights #21 Oakland Raiders (via ChessMasterHarvey)
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Season |
Team |
Tackles |
Interceptions |
Fumbles |
|||||||||||
|
G |
GS |
Comb |
Total |
Ast |
Sck |
SFTY |
PDef |
Int |
Yds |
Avg |
Lng |
TDs |
FF |
||
|
2010 |
14 |
14 |
19 |
17 |
2 |
0.0 |
-- |
6 |
-- |
-- |
0.0 |
-- |
-- |
0 |
|
|
2009 |
16 |
16 |
34 |
30 |
4 |
0.0 |
-- |
4 |
1 |
0 |
0.0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
|
|
2008 |
15 |
15 |
40 |
33 |
7 |
0.0 |
-- |
9 |
1 |
0 |
0.0 |
0 |
0 |
1 |
|
|
2007 |
15 |
15 |
34 |
32 |
2 |
0.0 |
-- |
7 |
1 |
10 |
10.0 |
10 |
0 |
0 |
|
|
2006 |
15 |
15 |
50 |
48 |
2 |
1.0 |
0 |
11 |
8 |
59 |
7.4 |
24T |
1 |
1 |
|
|
2005 |
16 |
16 |
60 |
55 |
5 |
0.0 |
-- |
14 |
-- |
-- |
0.0 |
-- |
-- |
0 |
|
|
2004 |
16 |
7 |
45 |
37 |
8 |
1.0 |
-- |
3 |
-- |
-- |
0.0 |
-- |
-- |
0 |
|
|
2003 |
15 |
1 |
28 |
20 |
8 |
0.0 |
-- |
0 |
-- |
-- |
0.0 |
-- |
-- |
0 |
|
|
TOTAL |
310 |
272 |
38 |
2.0 |
0 |
54 |
11 |
69 |
-- |
24 |
1 |
2 |
|||
Richard Marshall: Grade A
For one reason or another, people on BGN do not recognize this kid as an elite corner because of their narrow-mindedness about getting Nnamdi (no offense). He is very young (26) and is starting to prove that he is a top 5 corner in the NFL and someone no one ever talks about. That being said, the price tag on this kid will not be as high as for a Brent Grimes or a Cromartie since they have the hype factor on their side. Look for Marshall to sign a 5 year $26million or 6 year $33 million deal. Another bonus is the fact he stays healthy throughout the length of the season.
The biggest pro that Marshall has is the fact he doesn’t have any cons that affect his play. The only one I can really think of Is his size. At 5-11, 189 Lbs he is a bit on the smaller side and may have a tougher time against the larger receivers in the league. But one thing that size does not limit is his run support ability. This kid is a straight animal when it comes to tackling. He is a great tackler, delivers huge hits, and loves the contact. Just look at the numbers in terms of tackles on this guy for his career. He out-produces many linebackers in the league. A big number that jumps out at me here are the number of solo tackles he puts up. He does not need help bringing down a TE, RB, or WR. He is always driving his legs through a tackle, which you never see in corners these days. He can be a major asset in the return game. He is also very good in the blitz game and can reach the quarterback with hurries or a sack. Many might say that is coverage is average but I disagree. He has good hands, fluid hips, and good ball skills. He is extremely athletic as well. He has great field awareness and is also very dangerous with the ball in his hands. Not much can fool this guy. He diagnoses plays very quickly, especially screen plays. He is better at playing man to man than zone coverage. In zone coverage it seems as though he does not react quick enough or close as quickly as he does when playing man. To me, he is clearly an elite corner and demands attention from the FO.
Likihood to sign with the Eagles: 60%
Richard Marshall and Chris Gamble (via ojellav89)
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Season |
Team |
Tackles |
Interceptions |
Fumbles |
|||||||||||
|
G |
GS |
Comb |
Total |
Ast |
Sck |
SFTY |
PDef |
Int |
Yds |
Avg |
Lng |
TDs |
FF |
||
|
2010 |
16 |
16 |
88 |
74 |
14 |
1.0 |
-- |
7 |
3 |
91 |
30.3 |
66 |
0 |
1 |
|
|
2009 |
16 |
16 |
88 |
75 |
13 |
0.0 |
-- |
9 |
4 |
47 |
11.8 |
28 |
0 |
0 |
|
|
2008 |
16 |
0 |
75 |
68 |
7 |
2.0 |
-- |
4 |
1 |
11 |
11.0 |
11 |
0 |
0 |
|
|
2007 |
16 |
6 |
89 |
79 |
10 |
1.0 |
0 |
10 |
3 |
107 |
35.7 |
73T |
1 |
0 |
|
|
2006 |
16 |
8 |
82 |
69 |
13 |
1.0 |
0 |
11 |
3 |
59 |
19.7 |
30T |
1 |
2 |
|
|
TOTAL |
422 |
365 |
57 |
5.0 |
0 |
41 |
14 |
315 |
-- |
73 |
2 |
3 |
|||
Champ Bailey: Grade B+/A-
After having a subpar season in 2009, Champ bounced back to form and had a great year. He showed that he is still one of the top corners in the league and can keep up with anyone around the league. He was again selected to this years probowl for his outstanding play. Yet, at the age of 32, his best years are behind him and will likely sign his last contract this offseason. Champ has great size for a corner at 6-0 and 192 pounds. He has the frame to compete with the larger WRs in the league, which we have a decent amount of in our division (nicks, Austin, Bryant, etc.) He also has great speed, even at his age. He is also a decent/solid tackler and makes smart moves in the open field. He displays good ball skills (13 pass deflections and 2 int this past season) and would be a great asset on this team. He has never been much of a blitzer, which is fine because has long been a great shutdown corner. His biggest weakness is the fact that he is 32 and has lost a step or two. Yet, given a 2-3 year contract he should produce some good years. Another plus about Champ is the fact he stays very healthy and injuries are almost never a concern with him. He has missed less than 10 games….his whole career! Anyway, there is not much to be said about champ other than he is basically the same player that earned him his reputation a long time ago.
Champ is mostly an off coverage cornerback. There are several ramifications due to this. The positives are that he has GREAT closing speed to make a play on either the ball or receiver. This also allows him to sit back and diagnose a play well and with his closing speed make a play. He can run with any receiver and is one of the best deep cover corners as well. He rarely gets beat deep, I mean rarely, and always puts up a great fight for the ball, displaying his elite ball skills. Yet, like Asante, he will gamble on routes and guess wrong. It will be like having two Asante’s on the field, champ being a little more physical and less of a gambler (putting some stress on the safeties). I wish Champ was more physical at the line jamming receivers and helping more so in run support. This could be a problem when teams run screen plays or run right at Champ, though he is more than capable if he takes the initiative to tackle.
As for his chances of leaving Denver, he may be considering to play for a contender and win one ring , which is really the only thing left to seal his hall of fame career. Look for Champ to strike either a 2 year deal worth nearly $18 million or a 3 year deal worth $25 million to eventually end his career. The Fact that Champ has played LCB his whole career worries me a little. Shifting to RCB is a whole different game in terms of coverage, footwork, reads, etc. But if anyone can make a quick adjustment, it is Champ due to his pure ability to play corner and prior experience.
Likelihood to sign with the Eagles: 70%
Ultimate Champ Bailey Highlights (Broncos) (via TheVikingsworld)
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Season |
Team |
Tackles |
Interceptions |
Fumbles |
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|
G |
GS |
Comb |
Total |
Ast |
Sck |
SFTY |
PDef |
Int |
Yds |
Avg |
Lng |
TDs |
FF |
||
|
2010 |
15 |
15 |
45 |
41 |
4 |
1.0 |
-- |
13 |
2 |
0 |
0.0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
|
|
2009 |
16 |
16 |
74 |
63 |
11 |
0.0 |
-- |
15 |
3 |
18 |
6.0 |
11 |
0 |
1 |
|
|
2008 |
9 |
9 |
44 |
39 |
5 |
1.0 |
-- |
3 |
1 |
0 |
0.0 |
0 |
0 |
2 |
|
|
2007 |
15 |
15 |
84 |
71 |
13 |
0.0 |
-- |
14 |
3 |
3 |
1.0 |
3 |
0 |
0 |
|
|
2006 |
16 |
16 |
85 |
73 |
12 |
0.0 |
0 |
11 |
10 |
162 |
16.2 |
70T |
1 |
0 |
|
|
2005 |
14 |
14 |
64 |
59 |
5 |
0.0 |
0 |
15 |
8 |
139 |
17.4 |
65T |
2 |
1 |
|
|
2004 |
16 |
16 |
81 |
68 |
13 |
0.0 |
-- |
9 |
3 |
0 |
0.0 |
0 |
0 |
0 |
|
|
2003 |
16 |
16 |
71 |
67 |
4 |
0.0 |
-- |
7 |
2 |
2 |
1.0 |
2 |
0 |
1 |
|
|
2002 |
16 |
16 |
68 |
62 |
6 |
0.0 |
-- |
19 |
3 |
2 |
0.7 |
2 |
0 |
0 |
|
|
2001 |
16 |
16 |
50 |
48 |
2 |
0.0 |
-- |
14 |
3 |
17 |
5.7 |
12 |
0 |
1 |
|
|
2000 |
16 |
16 |
-- |
-- |
-- |
0.0 |
0 |
0 |
5 |
48 |
9.6 |
48 |
0 |
0 |
|
|
1999 |
16 |
16 |
-- |
-- |
-- |
1.0 |
0 |
0 |
5 |
55 |
11.0 |
59T |
1 |
0 |
|
|
TOTAL |
666 |
591 |
75 |
3.0 |
0 |
120 |
48 |
446 |
-- |
70 |
4 |
6 |
|||
Brent Grimes: Grade B/B+
Brent Grimes had a breakout year for the falcons this season, starting at LCB in all 16 games after starting the only 8 games all of last year. I rate Grimes this high due to several things. To begin with he is still a young player (27) with his best years ahead of him. If you have ever seen him play you will understand what a freak athlete this kid is- Purely amazing. He has great hip movement, plays with great leverage, good speed, and can track down deep balls. Check out the video below and take notice of his vertical leap. One thing must be said though. He is not a shutdown corner and does not have the greatest speed. But that being said, he is one of the best all around corners in the NFL. I have rarely seen him sent on a CB blitz (0 sacks in his career), but think he has the ability to be a real force due to his great instincts and playmaking ability. He is very solid against the run as well and a sure tackler. He posted a stupid amount of tackles this season (87) with 76 of them being solo stops, which is very impressive. Many may say he is too small for a corner, listed at 5-10" and 181 pounds, but he understands angles and the game so well (plus his vert) that his size really is not an issue. He came away with 5 interceptions and deflected 23 passes, which lead the league. It is also interesting to note that Grimes lead the league in targets in 114, but was able to hold his own as he proved.
Grimes was named a probowl alternate and then finally was placed on the NFC team once the packers advanced to the superbowl (Charles woodson). That being said, he will look for a decent size contract this offseason. Look for him to sign either a 5 year deal worth nearly $36million or a six year deal worth $42.1 million. These figures put him into the range of corners such as Corey Webster (6 year $43.5 million) and terrance newman (6 year $50 million). I would be very surprised if the Falcons did not resign grimes but if they did not, I would not mind him here if we do not make a play on NA. I think the biggest pro of Grimes is his age. At only 27, he has his best football still ahead of him. An important aspect about Grimes is his unbelievable work ethic and high strive to become an elite player.
Likelihood to sign with the Eagles: 13%
Brent Grimes is a BEAST (via lazyboiAndy)
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Season |
Team |
Tackles |
Interceptions |
Fumbles |
|||||||||||
|
G |
GS |
Comb |
Total |
Ast |
Sck |
SFTY |
PDef |
Int |
Yds |
Avg |
Lng |
TDs |
FF |
||
|
2010 |
16 |
16 |
87 |
76 |
11 |
0.0 |
-- |
23 |
5 |
84 |
16.8 |
36 |
0 |
0 |
|
|
2009 |
16 |
8 |
66 |
62 |
4 |
0.0 |
-- |
13 |
6 |
17 |
2.8 |
11 |
0 |
0 |
|
|
2008 |
12 |
6 |
34 |
30 |
4 |
0.0 |
-- |
6 |
1 |
25 |
25.0 |
25 |
0 |
0 |
|
|
2007 |
2 |
0 |
12 |
11 |
1 |
0.0 |
-- |
0 |
-- |
-- |
0.0 |
-- |
-- |
0 |
|
|
TOTAL |
199 |
179 |
20 |
0.0 |
0 |
42 |
12 |
126 |
-- |
36 |
0 |
0 |
|||
Antonio Cromartie: Grade B
First off left me just say I do not really want cromartie but at the same time I would not mind him here for several reasons. Over the past several days Revis has made it clear that he wants him to stay in New York but there is the issue of money concerned with the Jets organization. There is money to be dished out to several key free agents there and Antonio may be the odd man and become a free agent. They also drafted Kyle Wilson last year in the first round and may feel like it may be his time to start, making Cromartie expendable. He does come with a little baggage but if anyone can help straighten out Cromartie with some off the field issues it is the eagles organization. Look for him to command a contract with the same type of money as Brent Grimes as stated above (5 year $36 million or 6 year $42 million). The fact that he is only 26 years old will most likely ensure that he is signed to a multiyear deal that will extend him to his early 30s.
To start off you must say something about this guys measurables. He is 6-2 and 210 Lbs and has the frame to put up with the bigger WRs in the league. Like Nnamdi, he also has very long arms that contribute to his playmaking abilities. Yet he does struggle with the smaller and speedier WRs that run short and intermediate routes but is very effective defending against the long ball. The thing about Cromartie is, he has many pros but at the same time has many cons. He has great speed for his size. He runs with long strides that allow him to get down the field and close in a hurry. He can make what looks like a mildy easy catch into either a deflection or interception. He has great playmaking ability. He has very good hands and can make the tough pass break ups and the interceptions (remember the one against the colts?). He had 17 pass break ups which is a great number and a tribute to his coverage abilities. He also has the ability to take the ball all the way back with the ball in his hands due to his speed and athleticism. He could also double as a kick return specialist, which would also be nice since we are lacking in that department dearly. As good as this may all seem, there has to be a discussion about his flaws. The first thing that is evident is the fact that he gets out of position a lot. This is attributed to the fact he has very sloppy footwork and rigid hips. He often gets out of position in an attempt to make a big play which can backfire on him and lead to big plays over the top. He does not play much bump and run and will play off, which fuels smaller elite WRs to have their way with him. He is in no way a shut down corner but is a very good starter, perhaps the best starting RCB in the league. Over the years, look for him to try to improve his overall technique to become a more well rounded corner. As for run support he is a decent tackler and not really a reliability. He is also a non factor in the blitz game. The biggest knock on him is the fact that he relies too much on his athleticism and not enough on his technique.
Likihood the Eagles sign him: 30%
Antonio Cromartie #31 (via LadainianSmith2189)
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Season |
Team |
Tackles |
Interceptions |
Fumbles |
|||||||||||
|
G |
GS |
Comb |
Total |
Ast |
Sck |
SFTY |
PDef |
Int |
Yds |
Avg |
Lng |
TDs |
FF |
||
|
2010 |
15 |
15 |
42 |
41 |
1 |
0.0 |
-- |
17 |
3 |
75 |
25.0 |
66 |
0 |
0 |
|
|
2009 |
16 |
16 |
33 |
31 |
2 |
0.0 |
-- |
10 |
3 |
17 |
5.7 |
16 |
0 |
0 |
|
|
2008 |
16 |
15 |
64 |
60 |
4 |
0.0 |
0 |
9 |
2 |
66 |
33.0 |
52T |
1 |
0 |
|
|
2007 |
16 |
8 |
44 |
39 |
5 |
0.0 |
0 |
18 |
10 |
144 |
14.4 |
70T |
1 |
0 |
|
|
2006 |
16 |
0 |
24 |
20 |
4 |
0.0 |
-- |
4 |
-- |
-- |
0.0 |
-- |
-- |
0 |
|
|
TOTAL |
207 |
191 |
16 |
0.0 |
0 |
58 |
18 |
302 |
-- |
70 |
2 |
0 |
|||
Notable Coners that were left out:
Carlos Rodgers- He may just have the worst hands out of any number one corner in the NFL (Terrance Newman is up there as well). Along with that he is at the age of 29. Though he has been a solid corner for a number of years I do not think he is worth the money. If we are trying to sign a RCB, I would rather prefer to sign a star caliber corner than an above-average one. He also gets beat deep a lot, which he can not afford with Nate Allen as our FS.
Johnathan Joseph- It is very likely that he will receive the franchise tag from the Bengals in the near future. He is very young (26) and has a lot of great potential but has been very inconsistent. He had a great 2009 campaign but took a step back this year. This scares me as we do not fully know what type of corner he really is and if he will ever pan out. I am not down for a prospect to start at RCB.
Ronde Barber- He is 36 years old and there is no reason it even think about getting him. He has lost at least two steps. It is also very likely that he will be resigned to his last contract in Tamba Bay as well, especially since Aqib Talib went down with a season ending injury and they might need an insurance policy.
Ike Taylor- He has done it all at the corner position for the Steelers within the last 5-6 years, helping them build the best defense in the NFL over that time span. And I see them continuing this trend as long as they have a corner to supplement their blitzes. That is why I can see the Steelers resigning this man, even though he has lost a step. He is simply too valuable to that team.
Josh Wilson- He was a very valuable asset to the ravens this year and I can’t see them giving up their best corner since they really do not have any one else on their roster that is near the same caliber as Josh Wilson. Many will remember him for giving up the game winning touchdown against the falcons but in reality it was offensive pass interference (which Roddy White never gets called for).
Eric Wright- With not much really going on for the browns in terms of playmakers, I really think that the browns will resign this kid. He is young and has the potential to be a very very good corner in this league, even elite. He is a good cover corner who can make plays in the run game. They have no other free agents that are really worth resigning. How could the browns let him go?
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Oh...
This article again. Nothing against the article because this looks fairly well done but I think this is like the third time this has been done.
Richard Marshall isn’t recognized as an elite corner because he isn’t one, he is best as a nickel corner.
Brent Grimes is a RFA.
Eric Wright was terrible last season, like Dimitri Patterson/Ellis Hobbs kind of bad and Joe Haden played like a top 10 corner, the Browns have other young corners they can let Wright walk.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
"It's simple, ... I'm always striving to do more. Whatever I accomplish, it's not enough. I don't get satisfied. That's not my nature." -Brian Dawkins
"Well as long as you want to get it right it's Princess Buttercup... Jackass." -Udalango
hey
how the fuck do you embed videos…im going crazy!
by CornOnTheKolb on Feb 6, 2011 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
When you are writing/editing the post there should be a little TV under Media & Assets, click on it and just paste in the address of the video you want to put in and then click import.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
"It's simple, ... I'm always striving to do more. Whatever I accomplish, it's not enough. I don't get satisfied. That's not my nature." -Brian Dawkins
"Well as long as you want to get it right it's Princess Buttercup... Jackass." -Udalango
Thats what i did
it shows it when im editing the post but not when its published…
by CornOnTheKolb on Feb 6, 2011 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Well then the only other way I know how to do it is to go to the video you want, copy the embed code and paste it in where it says “embed”.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
"It's simple, ... I'm always striving to do more. Whatever I accomplish, it's not enough. I don't get satisfied. That's not my nature." -Brian Dawkins
"Well as long as you want to get it right it's Princess Buttercup... Jackass." -Udalango
i tried using the sidebar thing to embed but it never shows up in my post...
by CornOnTheKolb on Feb 6, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Don’t put the link in the embed line, put the url in the url line and it will work.
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
url and link are the same thing, right?
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
"It's simple, ... I'm always striving to do more. Whatever I accomplish, it's not enough. I don't get satisfied. That's not my nature." -Brian Dawkins
"Well as long as you want to get it right it's Princess Buttercup... Jackass." -Udalango
yea
i was doing embed code in the embed box….which does not work
by CornOnTheKolb on Feb 6, 2011 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
oh… okay, gotcha.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
"It's simple, ... I'm always striving to do more. Whatever I accomplish, it's not enough. I don't get satisfied. That's not my nature." -Brian Dawkins
"Well as long as you want to get it right it's Princess Buttercup... Jackass." -Udalango
oh and
i did this because ALL the other posts just talked about Nnamdi and sucked
by CornOnTheKolb on Feb 6, 2011 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Yours is better, I’ll give you that.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
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Actually, I’m going to rec it, good read even though I don’t agree with everything and I can tell you put some effort in it.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
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"Well as long as you want to get it right it's Princess Buttercup... Jackass." -Udalango
Yeah this post is good
As Eagles fans, we always need to familiarize ourselves with Plans B and beyond.
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Marlin Jackson is going to start RCB next year
Heard it here first.
One of the last thing I want to hear when I'm using a public bathroom is someone telling me I have a nice watch.....
actually I made a post about how our DB's will look better with him back months ago and people
blasted the hell outta me
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
eh
JJ at number 3 discredits the post…..jkjk\
but seriously. Marshall is wayyyy better than him
by CornOnTheKolb on Feb 6, 2011 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
I like Marshall but he is nowhere NEAR a top 5 corner in the NFL. You are severely overrating him. He gets a lot of tackles because he gives up a lot of completions. Do some more research on him. He is a very good No.2 corner.
nah bro
If you look at his skill sets and instincts you can see how good he can be (which is top 5 in the league). He gets that many tackles because he the second best run defending corner in the league.
by CornOnTheKolb on Feb 6, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions
…and Joseph(although had a down year) is better than Marshall, Bailey, and Cromartie. He is the 3rd best FA corner and like you said, will likely get the tag.
well
He is better than cromartie but bailey? really?
by CornOnTheKolb on Feb 6, 2011 3:38 PM EST up reply actions
Johnathan Joseph
Joseph has been a solid corner since he entered the league. Even with the poor play of their front seven, Joseph and Hall still hold there own. This past season was just a down year for them. IMO he is the second best FA corner out there.
Phuck Matt Mosley!!!!!
by d-jac and j-mac on Feb 7, 2011 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
It doesn't even matter if he's No. 2 or No. 6 out there
it just matters if he’s a fit for our system (assuming it’s the usual, now that we have Castillo) and if he’s a substantial upgrade over Dmitri Patterson.
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Actually, our system is going to be totally different this year due to Washburn. It will be less blitzing and more 4 man rushes. More responsibility for linebackers(in run defense) but could make things a lot easier for the secondary if the rush is getting home. If the pass rush is not good, then the secondary needs to have excellent players.
by Route36 on Feb 7, 2011 11:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I agree
JJ is phenomenal and should be at least 2nd on this list well ahead of any of the others. The Bengals also have to choose between franchising Benson and Josheph. It should clearly be Joseph, but #1 they have Hall, who they really like and #2 Mike Brown is a stubborn asshole and he will decide whatever the hell he wants to do and completely disregard anyone else’s opinion despite the fact that there are plenty of people much more qualified than him to be running a football team at the top level.
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Put a jump next time
It helps immensly for mobile commenters
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by Udalango on Feb 6, 2011 3:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Thanks
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by Udalango on Feb 6, 2011 3:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Asomugha: Very Yes
Marshall: He got beat fairly consistently this year, no thanks
Bailey: Too old
Brent Grimes: Yes
Cromartie: Not my favorite, but with Asante he’d be good
Rogers: Nope
Joseph: Quite Yes
Barber: Too old
Taylor: Nah
Wilson: Not the caliber we need
Wright: Way overrated
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I would take Bailey
If it weren’t the only corner move we make. i.e. we sign another young guy to be here for a long time and then we add Bailey on a 2-year deal. Three CBs play anyway and the depth would protect against an injury ruining the defense.
Unless we get Nnamdi. Then I think we won’t have a need nor the money.
I would very much take 2 years of old Champ Bailey over who we had last season.
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Yeah, but he doesn’t want to play CB anymore. I don’t think he’sgonna leave Denver for a CB job.
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I didn't know that
he wants to be a free safety? Really? Where’d you read that?
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I think that we have a lot of needs to spend the money on nmandi
id feel better if we signed joseph and signed a good linebacker…it would help us more in the long run
"You tried your best and failed miserably. The lesson is: never try." Homer Simpson
Look at it this way
If the CBA gets done things will be very different (rookie pay scale)
sign nnamdi and greenway. Draft at every other position of need for cheap. Or even draft a LB and OL both in the first round given that Kolb gets traded, we get a late first or early second for him, package some picks to move up, and get two high quality draft picks….all speculation though
by CornOnTheKolb on Feb 6, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
That's often how the Eagles do things
But I think we can draft an OL at 23.
And having Nnamdi could eliminate the need for a dominant linebacker, though we could still try to find/sign/draft one.
I really think two elite corners are a game-changer. JJ had them in Vincent/Taylor and then Brown/Sheppard or Brown/Samuel for his entire tenure, and that was no small reason why he was able to do what he did, even without elite linebackers most of the time.
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speaking of 18%
i enjoyed reading this… and am severely curious-
where did you get your percentages from?
"This is one of the top 10 biggest bonehead trades in the history of the NFL."
-Redskins TE Chris Cooley
87% percent of all statistics are made up
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by JjoneslikesbigD on Feb 6, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
but seriously-
where’d you get 80% for Nnamdi, 70% for Champ, and 13% for Grimes?
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by Ralf E Chubbs on Feb 6, 2011 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
arbitrary
i tried to factor to in various factors and came up with a number that i thought was reasonable. i tried to factor in money, team appeal, contender chances, chacnes current team signs them, etc etc
by CornOnTheKolb on Feb 6, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
ARBITRARY?
i’d choose a different word lol.
just curious though.
"This is one of the top 10 biggest bonehead trades in the history of the NFL."
-Redskins TE Chris Cooley
by Ralf E Chubbs on Feb 6, 2011 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
Nnamdi! Nnamdi! Nnamdi! Nnamdi! Nnamdi! Nnamdi! Nnamdi! Nnamdi!
Nnamdi! Nnamdi! Nnamdi! Nnamdi! Nnamdi! Nnamdi! Nnamdi! Nnamdi!
Nnamdi! Nnamdi! Nnamdi! Nnamdi! Nnamdi! Nnamdi! Nnamdi! Nnamdi!
Nnamdi! Nnamdi! Nnamdi! Nnamdi! Nnamdi! Nnamdi! Nnamdi! Nnamdi!
I want Jonathan Joseph.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
I've seen too many of these posts.
I want a post of the best Offensive lineman in free agency.There may be some big ones.
Rivals beware
It's been done
Search harder. I don’t remember the title but it had dudes from the Saints, Falcons, etc. not just Mankins
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Maybe it was yours I was referring to
All I was saying it is has been done. I guess you don’t want to re-read your own opinion though :)
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Honestly if there were every a year to pull a Snyder and spend on FA talent it's this one,
Go get Greenway AND VietNnam….
Both instant upgrades. Both have years left of high level play. Both fill a position of need. Both the best at their positions on the market… Make it happen.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
by wild_eagle on Feb 6, 2011 11:33 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
That would thrill me
And we can probably afford it is the crazy part.
Then use No. 23 on an OL.
Then again, whatever we all see as so simple is not usually what the FO sees. So I’ll be curious to learn what they actually do.
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Also there's 31 other teams
or 30 who’ll want in on those guys.
Wanting guys like Peppers — badly — doesn’t mean we’ll necessarily land them.
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you can eliminate roughly half for nnamdi
He is going to a contender
by CornOnTheKolb on Feb 7, 2011 1:49 AM EST up reply actions
Fair enough
NA is not a typical free agent whose moves we can easily predict — he seems like one of those Curtis Martin types for whom football is a vehicle to bigger things — but same time Philadelphia fits the social needs criteria as well as contender.
I think the Jets could be a problem if they let Cromartie walk, but other than that, I don’t see a CB-needy team that will be a more attractive landing spot than Philly.
I’m optimistic.
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from what I hear is the Jets won't have enough to pursue VietNnam,
they got David Harris, Furguson, and others who need contract extentions before they can go after somebody like Nnamdi
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
Holmes, Edwards, Woody (or replacement), LT (probably let go), they have thier hands full once it gets into free agency.
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I think Woody got resigned didn't he???
But yes, I was naming just a few…
The point is the same either way.. I don’t think they’ll be able to go after him.. They still may be trying to get Cromartie
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
BTW, Cromatie is probably their best bet if they use him properly,
the man needs to be off a man and able to use his athleticism, I have watched some film on him and I’d say roughly 80% of the time he’s required to jam a player and get physical he fucks up…
They just need to do what they do with him and Revis and allow Cromartie to play on the more athletic guy, while Revis just shuts down the best…
BTW, I don’t thing Revis is as invincible as everyone things.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
I'm sure we can afford it, I'd be willing to overpay for it..
and no. If this happens we just need to go balls out, trade up as high as we can and draft the BPA wherever we land…
unless they’re a WR or RB.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
The FO scares me
They either go with the obvious star FA or take the supreme unorthodox route. Plus they keep it secret.
One of the last thing I want to hear when I'm using a public bathroom is someone telling me I have a nice watch.....
That's true
But it’s less scary to me than the Redskins method of telegraphing exactly who you want than overpaying, or about 20-24 other front office’s methods.
I’d really much rather have a team that builds a foundation through the draft and believes free agency is to get the occasional game-changing superstar.
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Do Nnambi's actions remind anyone else of BDawk?
When he makes a play he has that same swagger that Dawkins had.
Brian Dawkins for President
Here's my swagger
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Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
Then I'd be all like

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
Then I'd be like "are you ok???"

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
Good Post but..........
No one seems to take the DT position serious here. There is a lack of GREAT talent at the position on this team (even though Bunkley IMO will be a beast in a one gap). There needs to be inside pressure to create mor DE sacks and even more INT in the secondary.The Giants CB are not great by any means yet they are given the opportunity for greatness by a very good pass rush inside and out. There have been many teams with average to less than average CB to make it to and win SB’s. Cowboys 92’, Broncos 97’, Giants 09’. A defense can and will get by with the same Talent the Eagles have at CB with a better pass rush. Te only thing missing is an inside presence. If NA can not be signed Fat Albert and I bet you those sub par Corners opposite Samuels will look a lot brighter.
I would love to blow up Texas Stadium... With team still in it
damn
i totally forgot the giants won the superbowl in 09….was that before or after that silly Saints-Colt “consolation” game
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by JjoneslikesbigD on Feb 8, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
Free Agency
I am not a strong believer of signing other teams trash in the off season. But if certain players are allowed to test the FA market when they are either at the top of their game or becomming stars I say sign them. Haynesworth, IMO is and should be at the top of the Eagles list of FA if he is released. Ngata will demand too much money and he is the LONE FA DT that I would sign. Drafting DT after the 10th pick is more of a gamble than drafting a RB with the 1st overall pick in today’s NFL.
Haynesworth and Bunkley starting would be hell on 1st and 3rd down in a one gap system. Samuel would start looking like Deon and however is opposite him will become a better Larry Brown or Kevin Smith.
I would love to blow up Texas Stadium... With team still in it
I think this is a great post
You spent a lot of time and did a lot of work. I have to comment about some things though;
First, I think that you severely underrate Joseph. I also think he could be likely be available (I would say 50/50 that they franchise Benson over him, and 10% that franchise tags get wiped out in CBA negotiations).
Also, your percentages are ridiculous. Here’s how you fix them to not make them the only major glaring weakness of your post. First, there is only a 100% chance that the Eagles will address (or not address) the cornerback position (unless you think they are picking up more than 1 corner in free agency, which I would say a 1% chance of that happening is generous). So give yourself a 101% platform there, then subtract the odds that they address it in the draft (say 25%) or don’t address the need at all (maybe a 11% chance). So starting at 65% that they address it in free agency (which is high for this FO) would give you much more realisitic odds. The percentages you have there suggest it is almost certain that the Eagles sign at least 2 and possibly 3 FA corners.
All this said, these are minor gripes about the bulk of your post, which overall is very informative. I honestly haven’t heard much at all about Richard Marshall, and this alone makes it worthwhile. Sure seems like most don’t agree with you on him, but at least I’m primed and I’ll check out what Panthers fans say about him. Rec from me, and I look forward to your other posts if you break down some other positions.
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thanks but
the percentages are based off the fact that we only sign ONE of these FA corners….The percentages reflect the probability of an independent event occurring which are all mutually exclusive, so they will not add up to one.

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