SBNation NFL Mock Draft: Eagles Don't Take An Offensive Lineman
by JasonB on Feb 21, 2011 5:51 PM EST
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PrintThe guys at SBNation.com have been running mock drafts since before the season ended and for the most part the Eagles have taken an offensive lineman. Usually it's Gabe Carimi from Wisconsin. This time, that's not the case. At #23, the Eagles take a corner.
Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado. Asante Samuel has a reputation as a freelancer, and the team can do a lot better than either Ellis Hobbs, Joselio Hanson or Dimitri Patterson across from him. Smith is a big, smooth athlete that could end up being the second cornerback off the board come April.
Mel Kiper has Smith rated as his #3 corner behind Patrick Peterson and Prince Awakamura. What makes Smith intriguing is his size. At 6-2, 205 he'd easily be the biggest corner on the Eagles and could finally be a guy that could match up with bigger WRs in the NFC East. Plus, if the six foot Trevard Lindley develops into a contributor the Eagles would have some real size overall at corner. Last year the Eagles were lining up the 5-10 Asante Samuel & Dimitri Patterson along with the 5-9 Ellis Hobbs and Joselio Hanson.
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I would agree with this
If FA hasnt started by draft time….Otherwise, it would be best to draft a OL(if available) early in the draft I would think…..who knows….
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Drafting CB’s, we have a pretty good track-record. If he grades out and we get him, great. We just really need to upgrade the position.
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by Illadelphia-Braintrust on Feb 21, 2011 6:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Im ok with this
whats the worst that could happen?
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whats the worst that could happen?
Not so sure I would use this expression so freely …..
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Sorry I was implying that he couldnt be any worse than what we have now....
I would take Jibta at RCB right now….
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Your joking right? He’s the best DB to ever get into the NFL. If he were here right now everyone would be screaming to cut samual cause Jack would look that good. He’s almost as good a DB as TO is a wideout. God I love TO I sleep with a poster of him over my bed cause I hope his greatness will dribble down on me.
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by Phourth_Horseman on Feb 21, 2011 8:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What does R/S stand for?
"Get 'Em"
by FlyEagles15 on Feb 22, 2011 1:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I definitely think that Jimmy Smith is a ‘sexier’ pick than getting a lineman in the first. That said, with Justice getting surgery and King Dunlap being mediocre at his best, getting a lineman in the first seems likely.
But, what lost us more games? Patterson/Hobbs/Hanson getting burned every game (see red zone defense) or Justice getting burnt—or by extension, Vick getting hurt?
Red zone defense, but it’s close
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by JasonB on Feb 21, 2011 7:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
+1
Our Offense could put up some damn points… Our Defense couldn’t stop, well, anything.
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by Ralf E Chubbs on Feb 21, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
C) all of the above
"Get 'Em"
by FlyEagles15 on Feb 22, 2011 1:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Depends highly on 2 things:
1) Free Agency/ the you know who sweepstakes
2) The news about Justice. If the scope does end up revealing a more serious issue OL become that much more important. We’d almost have to address that. Of course we do have Mudd and he’s supposed to be a miracle worker so we might get away with taking talent later on.
Best case scenario is the owners stop acting like a bunch of A-holes and we’re able to have FA before the draft plus trade Kolb for at least a first rounder so we have at least one hole already filled and an extra pick to take care of everything else with a top flight talent.
Jimmy smith would be a good value pick were we to stay at 23. A bit like nate last year where the value was about right for the pick. Then go guard in the 2nd and use our extra 5 to trade up in the 3rd for Greg Jones to play will
by NZeagle on Feb 21, 2011 6:42 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Smith
He does look pretty tall in that picture……wouldnt mind those attributes at all on this team…. Curious as to what is his front/back speed.
Is there a drill for CB at the combine that clocks back speed and/or conversing from back to front?
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Cone drill
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by JasonB on Feb 21, 2011 7:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Love Jimmy Smith
If we take a corner it should be him, but i’d rather we sign Nnamdi and draft o-line in the 1st
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agreed.
i think he might end up being the best CB outta this draft, a couple years down the road.
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Honestly
I would be happy to take Jimmy Smith, even if we sign Asomugha, we’d have a mean Nickel Defense, and in the future, Trevard Lindley could play RCB with Jimmy Smith our LCB
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I don’t disagree with this. My only concern is the right side of the OL is massively depleted. Especially if Justice is out for good, and Nick & MJG go unsigned (as they should).
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I don’t see how the OL is any more depleted than the CB position. They’re of equal need.
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by JasonB on Feb 21, 2011 7:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I do
There is no current depth at OL with Justice/Cole & MJG out. RCB is one position which could be filled, in theory by the current players signed. OL has more holes to fill, starters and backups.
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One would argue that one more year in the system + training camp + better position coaches=
the same players performing better.
Bottom line, I think we need to address both positions equally in the offseason via FA and the Draft.
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by Ralf E Chubbs on Feb 21, 2011 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
I agree. Let’s see what the same guys can do with new position coaches (even Dmitri Patterson) I think our DT’s are going to have breakout years.
by Shady25 on Feb 21, 2011 9:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
YES!
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A match—up between Jimmy Smith and Dez Bryant or between Jimmy Smith and Hakeem Nicks would be great. I can’t even begin to explain how high I am on Jimmy Smith, I really hope this happens.
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Agreed
Smith is one of my favorite prospects in the whole draft and he has the potential to be really really good. Would easily be the most physical CB on the team.
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protecting the qb is most important i would think
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What about me?
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by Imp on Feb 21, 2011 9:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd definately be down with drafting a top teir CB first
I think we could fill our O-line needs thru later rounds and/or FA…and if we did actually get NA, I couldn’t wait to see how good he’d be after being an understudy to the best CB tandem in the league.
Oof.
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if we need lineman
Reid will get lineman b4 anything else
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by king swagg da eagles fan on Feb 21, 2011 7:46 PM EST reply actions
I would love this pick.
Love it.
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a few youtube highlights of the kid
You know what I liked in those videos besides his ‘physicality’?. His demeanor. It looks like the dude just plays—doesn’t celebrate much after plays, almost a no nonsense kind of guy. Of course, this analysis is purely anecdotal as I’ve only seen a few videos on him.
You know what I liked? His high motor play, and his high motor ability. He is a real high motor guy. High motor all the time.
by matts1022 on Feb 21, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
You know what I liked? Everything.
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by d-jackfan10 on Feb 21, 2011 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
CB or OL in the first
and I’ll be a happy camper
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I'd be ok with this.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
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I don't think he'll be around at 23 ..
I think he’s going to have a sick combine and jump into the top 15-20, but since we always seem to trade up into that range anyway, we’ll probably still grab him if the FO likes him
I’d be pissed beyond pissed if we settled on Brandon Harris as our solution at CB. Highly touted coming into Miami, never lived up to the billing IMO.
And he’s smallish; may have helped in run-support in college. … In the NFL he’s got victim written all over him.
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by Illadelphia-Braintrust on Feb 22, 2011 7:36 AM EST via mobile reply actions
cba
the thing that sucks about the draft this yr, is that its before free agency so who ever doesnt address there issues in the draft is going to over pay in free agency
which scares me about some of the free agents that “might” be a avalible:
Nnamdi Asomugha
Barrett Ruud
doug free
carl nicks ext….
I want the Eagles to draft Temple's Muhammad Wilkerson.
6-5 305 lbs. He’s going to be a monster DT that can play in a 4-3 or 3-4. That could give the Eagles flexibility if they ever decide to switch defenses and if they don’t want to resign Patterson or Bunk.
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