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So I haven't posted in awhile and I felt the need to chime in on a familiar theme. How can we elevate the Eagles to Superbowl champions?  What follows is my completely uncomplicated plan of what we can do before the draft.

 

 The pipe dreams for free agent signings have been abundant. Asomugha, Haynesworth, Greenway. There is only one big name free agent we should be gunning for.

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1) Logan Mankins is the second best guard in the league behind only Steve Hutchinson. He's young, at the prime age of 28, strong as hell, and plays with that nasty streak needed if you want to be a premiere offensive lineman. Many people have thought getting Asomugha above all else is the best way to fix the holes in this team. I disagree. As we seen in the last several weeks of the season, the right side of our O line was in complete shambles. Vick was destroyed more often then not, and even Shady had trouble finding the holes needed for the monster gains he was achieving earlier in the season. While some of this is absolutely attributed to defenses adjusting, quite a large function of this poor play was a right side consisting of Cole, Justice, and Dunlap. I believe this more then anything else compounded the entire team in such a fashion that we were once again bounced in the first round. We couldn't move the ball, thus leading to us not being able to score, double fucking the defense as they had to spend more time on the field and they didn't have a point cushion to play off of.

While our defense is in no way even close to being a superbowl worthy defense and needs plenty of work, the exposure of our offense was the biggest detriment to our success over the last few weeks and the first round of the playoffs. Logan Mankins would vastly improve this situation as his presence alone would help shield the deficiencies of our Center and RT, whomever those might be.

2) Now we still obviously need to do some massive work on the defensive side of the ball, but with the large contract Mankins would require, we'd be looking for cheaper while still effective players. Enter Jonathan Jospeh, free agent CB from the Bengals. While obviously nowhere near the player Asomugha is, Jonathan Joseph is still a damn fine cornerback. He is younger, will only be 27 when the season starts, and is mucho better then any other option we have for RCB, Patterson, Hanson and even though I believe with more seasoning he could be good as of right now Lindley. Jospeh would prove to have an immediate impact as now there wouldn't be a giant passing lane on the right side with a Open 24/7 sign on it. Jospeh could be signed for a relatively nice 5 year contract and is my choice for a CB target.

3) Next position needed is our WLB. As a fan of Ernie Sims even I am proclaiming him a giant bust for us. Just a terrible season on his part by all accounts. I see a lot of people are talking about shuffling Chaney into the middle, and then moving Bradley or even possibly Fokou to the WLB spot. I see that as a bad choice. Fokou was easily ouir best LB last year so moving him makes no sense. While Chaney did well, I'm not exactly ready to give up on Bradley yet either. I think the MLB spot should be an open competition with the loser becoming the back up. So what is the right choice? Keenan Clayton. In limited playing time the kid impressed last year. He has great speed although he needs help on his coverage skills, but no more then Sims did last year. The difference is Clayton plays with a sense of discipline. While Sims might ooo and aww us with a few big hits, he is a boom or bust type of guy. Clayton on the other hand, keeps it simple and basic, breaking down and wrapping the ball carrier to the field. Impressive on the replay screen? Hell yeah, if your a fan of solid tackling skills and keeping plays to a minimum gain. Solid, basic, form tackling has been a huge achilles heel for us the last 3 years and it's refreshing to see somebody just do the damn job. I am officially an advocate for the promotion of Clayton.

4) After these three positions are taken care of its all about finding suitable back ups. Nick Cole and MJG are fine as back up guards, however we need a serious replacement for King Dunlap. I hope Austin Howard can be that guy and with Mudd on board, I look forward to seeing his continued development.  I think another strong safety would suit us too. While I love the potential of Kurt Coleman, I originally argued that his size wouldn't matter if his will was strong. Now I am not so sure. While heart can often times get you to where you want to go, that only happens in professional sports if you are only slightly undersized. I'm not sure how much weight his frame can support so grabbing another option couldn't hurt. Finally we need a WLB back up, with some experience. Sorta in the mold of  Ike Reese. Reese was never the best but was an adequate fill in and his experience paid huge dividends for us a few times. While I am all for Clayton being the starter, in case of injury having a more experienced back up can only benefit us.

So there it is, 1 major free agent, 1 additonal immediately contributing free agent, 1 in team promotion, and a couple free agent back ups and our team has instantly become that more dangerous. This allows us to focus solely on the draft and limit our reaches. We can focus on CB and RT in the first 2 rounds and get the players that will contribute over the long term.

"And so from that, I've always been fascinated with the idea that

complexity can come out of such simplicity."     Will Wright

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The Pats already indicated that they are gonna franchise Mankins.

Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.

by DickMuffin on Feb 12, 2011 7:09 PM EST reply actions  

Logan Mankins will be franchise tagged by the Patriots, that is an official move, not my opinion. Steve Hutchinson is not close to the best guard in football any longer.

The two best guards in football are both on the Saints, Carl Nicks and Jahri Evans.

Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
"It's simple, ... I'm always striving to do more. Whatever I accomplish, it's not enough. I don't get satisfied. That's not my nature." -Brian Dawkins
"Well as long as you want to get it right it's Princess Buttercup... Jackass." -Udalango

by d-jackfan10 on Feb 12, 2011 7:09 PM EST reply actions  

+1

If im not mistaken . The saints have like have 27 potential free agents on there roster. You heard me right 27.
Its gonna be hard to keep those guys. You cant tag all of them. Plus to tag Carl Nicks with the Franchise tag you would have to pay him HUGH MONEY!!!!!!!!!! There already paying Jahri Evans big money. My bet is they cant keep both of them. So Carl Nicks come on over to the Eagles. We have the cap room and more.

by greenage on Feb 12, 2011 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Nicks is a RFA though so they will just give him a 1st round tender.

Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.

by DickMuffin on Feb 12, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions  

won't RFA go away with a new CBA?

If Revis has an Island, Asomugha should have a continent.
"beat the man in front of you, then attempt to seriously injure the quarterback."
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by number5 on Feb 13, 2011 12:12 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not sure, but as of now he’s a RFA.

Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.

by DickMuffin on Feb 13, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Yea there saying

If its the same as last year . they will tag him with a 1st and 3rd. I just tried to look it up. Here you go throwing details in my dream and shit……..Just let me dream man!!!!!!!!

by greenage on Feb 13, 2011 1:02 AM EST up reply actions  

No apparently if teams tag players right now without a CBA, the tender is 2 firsts.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

by wild_eagle on Feb 13, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah. The NFL is allowing the tagging of players and from what I read it's 2 1sts for the highest and I guess

the rest are basically nothing

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

by wild_eagle on Feb 13, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I think drafting Mike Pouncey out of Florida is the best option at this point for the offensive line. Barring a blockbuster trade up into the top 7 to get Prince Amukamara, I think the safest bet is Pouncey. It will be interesting this year with the draft more than likely coming before free agency. If the secondary isn’t addressed in the draft, do we bet the farm that we’ll be able to win the Asomugha sweepstakes?

by captainmike011 on Feb 12, 2011 8:04 PM EST reply actions  

He will have a deal implant the moment FA period begins.

by Phourth_Horseman on Feb 12, 2011 9:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

1) Logan Mankins is going to be franchised

2) Johnathan Joseph has openly said that he wants to resign with the Bengals and that if he is slapped with the franchise tag, he will sign it immediately

3) WILL LB is a big need for us. Chaney outplayed Bradley in the last few games. Bradley may be the more experienced LB, but Chaney has already shown just as much potential, has the higher ceiling, is more athletic, and is less injury prone so far. Bradley will be 28 next year and it looks like he has hit his max on as good as he is going to get.

4) Backups can be picked up and groomed through the draft.

by macjack09 on Feb 12, 2011 9:49 PM EST reply actions  

Jamar Chaney is not a weakside linebacker. Too bulky and not fluid enough in space to get it done, there is a reason the coaches moved him from WLB to MLB, he is a much much better MLB.

Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
"It's simple, ... I'm always striving to do more. Whatever I accomplish, it's not enough. I don't get satisfied. That's not my nature." -Brian Dawkins
"Well as long as you want to get it right it's Princess Buttercup... Jackass." -Udalango

by d-jackfan10 on Feb 12, 2011 10:33 PM EST up reply actions  

He was never moved. He was always a MLB, but the coaches tried to move him to WLB but that didn’t workout. He has the athleticism to play WLB, but quite frankly, if it ain’t broken, don’t fix it. He looks like the 2011 starter for MLB right now.

by macjack09 on Feb 13, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Ehh, I guess so, but honestly with the DL now we need a big MLB.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

by wild_eagle on Feb 13, 2011 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m inclined to disagree on that. I would rather have an effective LB rather than a big LB. The Titans two starting D-Lineman, one weighed 276 and the other 294. Thats smaller than our line. Yet, Stephen Tulloch still managed to finish second in the league in tackles with 159 and he is smaller than Jamar.

Its seems to me people were so enamored with Stew’s size that anything less is unacceptable. Me, I wouldn’t care if my LB was 5-10 220 lbs or 6-5 290 lbs as long as he is effective. And as of right now, Chaney looks like the more effective one.

by macjack09 on Feb 13, 2011 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

See I've said somewhere that I may be just looking at size and stuff,

but honestly how do we know if Jamar is truly effective? What if that was his peak and now we let Bradley go and we’re fucked?

And I’m not enamored with his size, I feel that a new system will play to his strengths.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

by wild_eagle on Feb 13, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Do you really think

Jamar peaked that quick? I mean, that would be ludicrous if in only three games as a full time starter he maxed out his potential already. And just like how do you know any player is effective if you don’t try them out? Only Lawrence Taylor, Suh, and Willis were instant studs. The only way your really going to know what you got is truly effective is to try it out.

You feel that he has room to grow as an OLB, what’s to stop him from growing as a MLB? I can honestly say, I think Jamar’s ceiling as it stands is much higher than Bradley’s at this point since one is going into their 5 year in the NFL and the other is going into their 2nd.

by macjack09 on Feb 13, 2011 6:12 PM EST up reply actions  

No I mean,

maybe that was it, maybe his 3 games were so good because nobody had film on him??

And btw I’m pro-cheney.. I’m just presenting the questions that need to be asked lol, and seeing what you think. I think you’re thinking I’m against Cheney..

I hope he’s damn good, I think he can be.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

by wild_eagle on Feb 13, 2011 7:07 PM EST up reply actions  

You think our LB problem could be

They just really under achieved under there last coaches?

by greenage on Feb 13, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm still so indecisive about the answer to that

Cause it has been quite obvious that we have never had any “real” quality at that position, but at the same time, its the position coaches job to maximize the talents of the players in front of him. Ron Rivera was so good, he took a very unathletic (while I love the guy to death) over-sized LB in Trotter and turned him into a two time all pro and pro bowler. Years later, now he is the head coach of the Carolina Panthers.

My blame still sits atop the mountain with Andy on that chart. Andy has never really put a premium on the position in regards to players or coaches. Once Trotter and Rivera left. Spags was destined to be a great defensive coordinator, but really wasn’t a great LB coach. McDermott was unspecialized as well. And Shuey? Don’t even get me started there.

I’ m praying Mike Caldwell can come out of left field and become a master of coaching the position.

by macjack09 on Feb 13, 2011 2:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that is a part of it.

The idea I’ve heard from Washburn and Caldwell is “simplify”. Complicated assignments for younger players is bound to take something away from their production.

Also, in the final game vs Dallas, McD let them all just play, more or less, and the result was better. It was one of the best efforts of the year. I know the game wasn’t a great test , but still, the young D did a very good job.

"What a gorgeous dog. What do you feed him?"

by waterfield on Feb 15, 2011 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

umm

1. Mankins will be franchised.

2. Joseph will too, he’s avid about wanting to be a Bengal.

3. Clayton’s not the answer as of now, and with Greenway possibly being an option I don’t see how we don’t go with stud over 2nd year hybrid LB/S guy..

4. I like the idea, get the best backups available though..

I honestly think Chaney would make a better WILL LB. Fokou needs to stay at SAM and Bradley at Mike.. In this new system I can see Cheney doing what Weatherspoon did in Tenn., Bradley being that physical force in the middle and Fokou being a boss over there on his side.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

by wild_eagle on Feb 12, 2011 11:22 PM EST reply actions  

I would agree with the last statement

If Bradley was a physical force in the middle in the first place. Honestly, I think Chaney showed enough to make me happy with him staying in the middle. He seems to be most effective there since that is where he grew up playing and that way he can best read and react instead of being forced to try and make plays at WLB were he would be asked to.

by macjack09 on Feb 13, 2011 12:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah but we need a big guy in the middle.. don't get me wrong, you can flip a coin on Cheney and Bradley

as the starter and I wouldn’t give a shit.. But I think if we worked it out like what I said (Fokou-Bradley-Cheney) that’d get our best players on the field while our Best LB doesn’t switch positions..

All I know is that Fokou is the guy we need to build around, he’s not great but he’s pretty good.. and late in the season I swear I saw flashes of greatness especially on that sack he had.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

by wild_eagle on Feb 13, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Remember they tried Chaney at WLB at the start of the season

It didn’t work out so well. And quite frankly, I can only say Bradley is the best LB on this team by default because he is the longest tenured starter and has the most in game experience. Given a full year as a starter, I think Chaney would take that title.

by macjack09 on Feb 13, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh well my bad then

but I think Fokou’s play late in the season was good enough to give him that award for this year..

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

by wild_eagle on Feb 13, 2011 6:03 PM EST up reply actions  

It's a new set of coaches,

maybe what these guys ask of Chaney at WLB he can do lights out. He’s got speed to spare and football intelligence.
If Bradley can stay healthy he can play MLB pretty good.

Fokou, Bradley and Chaney are our 3 best linebackers; it would be nice if they could all be on the field.

"What a gorgeous dog. What do you feed him?"

by waterfield on Feb 15, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that Fokou would be a better Will than Sam.

Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.

by DickMuffin on Feb 13, 2011 12:55 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't.

Fokou is a good SAM LB. He’s strong, physical, has long arms.. Sure his frames a bit small but he’s pretty athletic… I’m on the “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it” mindset with him.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

by wild_eagle on Feb 13, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Mankins franchised

sorry, I didn’t want to be left out.

Cowboys suck.

by stinkypants on Feb 13, 2011 12:16 AM EST reply actions  

Any truth to the rumors

That Mankins will be franchised and my whole damn post will blow up in my face?

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

"There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." Bruce Lee

"This fucking game is over!" Chuck Bednarik

"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" Mike Tyson

by Talon Talent on Feb 13, 2011 7:34 AM EST reply actions  

Well… Yeah. Isn’t signing Mankins instead of Nnamdi or Greenway the entire premise of the post?

Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
"It's simple, ... I'm always striving to do more. Whatever I accomplish, it's not enough. I don't get satisfied. That's not my nature." -Brian Dawkins
"Well as long as you want to get it right it's Princess Buttercup... Jackass." -Udalango

by d-jackfan10 on Feb 13, 2011 7:41 AM EST up reply actions  

yes it is

Whats fucked up is I seen all the headlines saying NE is expected to franchise him and I still was like, “but they haven’t so my post holds weight.” I guess if they truly did do this I’d be on board with Asomugha and would replace Joseph with Carl Nicks. I still think Clayton should be given a serious look at WLB though.

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

"There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." Bruce Lee

"This fucking game is over!" Chuck Bednarik

"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" Mike Tyson

by Talon Talent on Feb 13, 2011 8:02 AM EST up reply actions  

So do I, Clayton is my guy on defense, I expect big things from him. I see big time playmaker potential.

Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
"It's simple, ... I'm always striving to do more. Whatever I accomplish, it's not enough. I don't get satisfied. That's not my nature." -Brian Dawkins
"Well as long as you want to get it right it's Princess Buttercup... Jackass." -Udalango

by d-jackfan10 on Feb 13, 2011 8:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Clayton looks to have what it takes to be a stud.

Take the name off the back of the jersey's and reinvent football as a team sport.

"The way I figure it, if my heads gonna pop off it's gonna pop off anyways" - Ellis Hobbs on the possibility of his neck breaking.

by MightyJoeBanner on Feb 13, 2011 8:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Why is everyone on Clayton's cock?

He barely played last year.. I mean yeah he did ok, but let’s be honest the jury is still out.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

by wild_eagle on Feb 13, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

it's a small sample size

but he was quite effective in his limited playing time. If being on his cock is me imploring Castillo to give the kid a try then saddle up. lol. Seriously though, I just like the fact that he is a good tackler. We need that. to many people throwing their body arounds and bouncing off ball carriers trying to get a highlight reel. I want a boring player that stops the offense’s progress more then a guy who leaves a monster hit, once every 17 try’s.

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

"There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." Bruce Lee

"This fucking game is over!" Chuck Bednarik

"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" Mike Tyson

by Talon Talent on Feb 13, 2011 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I understand what you're saying..

But honestly I don’t think I’ve even seen enough of Cheney to claim he’s the answer at MLB, so there’s no way I’m willing to say anything aside from IDK about Clayton..

Dude’s got speed, he’s got cover ability (since he used to be a Safety) and he’s a solid tackler but I haven’t seen enough of him to know if he’s truly going to be good.

Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...

Wild_Eagle!

Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.

by wild_eagle on Feb 14, 2011 12:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Steve Hutchinson was the best....

….about 3 years ago. Right now, he has been overtaken by Evans, Mankins, Dielman, Nicks, Steinbach and Chris Snee. And yes, Mankins will get tagged, haha.

by Route36 on Feb 13, 2011 11:32 AM EST reply actions  

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