Kevin Kolb Hints That Cardinals Could Be A Preferred Destination
by JasonB on Feb 10, 2011 8:54 PM EST
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PrintEagles backup QB Kevin Kolb joined Howard Eskin and Ike Reese on WIP this week to talk about his future, the Eagles, and the comments made by Larry Fitzgerald over the weekend. You may remember Fitzgerald mentioned that Kevin Kolb was his top choice to be his starting QB next season. Kolb was asked his reaction to that.
"If he's not the best than he's one of the best WRs in the NFL, a superstar, for a guy like that to say something about me it means a lot. Awful flattering and if something happens I hope their name comes up."
That last sentence seems telling huh? Sounds like if he's traded, Arizona is a place he wouldn't mind going. It makes a lot of sense since Arizona isn't that bad a landing spot for a young QB. So often these guys end up with awful teams, devoid of any talent to help and get washed out of the league or relegated to career backup status. While the Cardinals weren't very good this year, they've got some talent on offense to work with and aren't far removed from being a competitive team. While he made it clear he wants the chance to start, Kolb says that you're not going to see him out there demanding a trade.
"I've always had a good relationship with the Eagles and I think they see where I'm coming from. It's not really in my makeup to go out there and make a stink about things. I try to be as professional as possible and see both sides. I truly believe that they're going to try to do what's best for myself and the team. If that doesn't work out, obviously I won't be happy about it but in my opinion it won't be their fault if it doesn't work out. I think it'll be because of the CBA not getting done. So if I get put in those shoes just like I've done in the past and just like you have to do in this league... just roll with the punches and say 'my turn's comin up." And you never know what's going to happen with Mike. We talk about this every week, he runs around a lot so you've always got to be ready to play. We learned that this year... so if it comes up that way then I'll go with it and make it work but obviously I want to be starting somewhere and be #1."
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I get this weird feeling
Kolb will be here next year and Vick will be somewhere else
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by starship 007 on Feb 10, 2011 9:18 PM EST up reply actions
it'll be 21
with 18 regular season games, bye, divisional, conference championship, Superbowl…
NICE!
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Wrong
It will be 22-0 cause the entire NFC probowl team will be only eagles
by Phourth_Horseman on Feb 11, 2011 4:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I love Kolb's attitude
He’s not a diva-ish at all. Wherever he goes, I’ll be cheerin for him… for the most part.
I think zona is a good fit for him. I think he’d do well there.
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by David_K on Feb 10, 2011 9:27 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I agree
I didn’t even transcribe the most amazing thing. He was asked by Ike Reese if he thought he got a fair shot at being the starter. Of course the real answer was “of course not! are you serious?! I get one half against the eventual champs, get hurt and then I lose my job? After I was told I’d be the starter?! WTF?”
He was NOT give a fair shot by any means, but he totally refused to say that.
He really seems to have understood that while he didn’t get a fair shot, the league really isn’t about giving guys a fair shot. It’s about winning and coach has to do what he thinks is right.
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I agree,
I don’t know about the hot garbage posted earlier… I thought this was a KK thread.
Kolb is an awesome dude. He takes his lumps, realizes life isn’t fair… and he doesn’t complain!
Love it!
I will be rooting for him, whether he plays here or anywhere else… as long as it’s not the NFC East.
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by Ralf E Chubbs on Feb 10, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
I agree too ...
… I really like the guy and would back him as the Eagles’ starter under virtually any other circumstances.
But having Vick is like having Jordan on your team, and I can’t think of the last time I rooted for the team (prior to this year) who had the player in the game playing better than anyone on my favorite team.
Now we gotta give dude a line and a defense, and sit back and watch the carnage.
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good point
Rooting for Vick was a feeling I hadn’t had in a long time. It was just total confidence. For the last 10 years, I always wondered which ‘Mcnabb’ we were going to get… the stud or the worm burner. With Vick, I had an unprecedented feeling of confidence. This first year was him shaking off the cobwebs and he was a probowl starter… can’t wait to see him after a full off season of rest and mental preparation and an entire training camp. Chemistry is going to improve ten fold.
But I’m an optimist.
"I don’t know whether I prefer Astroturf to grass. I never smoked Astroturf." - Joe Namath
He definitely awakens the loins
That’s for sure!
I honestly haven’t rooted for someone or something to just simply… succeed, like him since George Mason went to the Final Four a couple years ago…
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by Ralf E Chubbs on Feb 10, 2011 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
I'm an optimist too
Hang around here long enough, you’ll get to know we’re a scarce bunch.
It’s hard to imagine the offense being worse unless Vick or one of the other skill-position studs sustains a serious injury. The line is only going to be better, with whoever we bring in plus Mudd, and Vick having the whole offseason to work as the starter and improve.
I really think the key is going to be keeping bodies off him. Whether that’s working with him to speed up his release, blocking better, watching video all offseason of the Bears, Giants and Colts to see where the rushes were coming from … I just can’t think of a good reason besides long-term injury why the offense would be worse.
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The optimists are rare
I figure im somewhere mid way
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I’ve been on this site since ‘08. I had to change user names when I was banned from the Cowboys and Colts blog… couldn’t have that.
But I think there are a decent amount of optimistic people… that’s why I like it here… there’s a healthy dose of both.
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Well at least you weren't involved in the mass user-name change
I didn’t want to lose track of how many posts I have (7,400+ … I’m killing y’all in loserdom) and I really didn’t think KeithM was all that more exciting than D3Keith.
If I’d been thinking, I would have come up with something clever. I just didn’t know I’ll fall in like with this blog so hard.
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I feel ya… at least it isn’t something ridiculous… like jack is better than asante
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LOL- True!
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by Ralf E Chubbs on Feb 11, 2011 8:53 AM EST up reply actions
yea
Sorry about all that diatribe. Sometimes when ya get on a tangent, ya just go with it… and it bothers me when people get way off topic which I was totally guilty of…. kind of discredits the blog. Uggghhh offseason depression is setting in!
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I hope you're right, Uda...
regardless of what happens, I think my second favorite team will be where he plays next year. Unless of course it’s the Patriots or Cowboys.
I really love that guy, no homo.
"Who's been eatin' hummus?"
same here… hoping it’s the AFC. I had my fingers crossed for the Brown, which seem to be turning into Eagles West (Eagles North? whatever…) but it seems unlikely now
by igglemethis on Feb 10, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions
IN B4 KOLB HATE
for no reason whatsoever. What a classy guy. They just don’t make NFL players with attitudes like that anymore.
Oof.
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I have a feeling Kolb to Fitzgerald would be a very very good combination.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
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Certainly more than Max Hall or John Skelton to Fitzgerald.
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I just think that Kolb has the potential to really blow up if he is put in the right situation. I don’t think Philadelphia is the right situation because he doesn’t really fit what the Eagles do which is just attack upfield. If you put him in Arizona I think he would take off.
He would be playing in a dome, in a weak division with other teams in mild climate zones. He would be tossing it up to one of the best receivers in the game. He would have solid options behind Fitz in Breaston and Doucet. Plus he would have Beanie Wells behind him who had a good rookie year but a bad sophomore year. Plus I think he would mesh really well with Wisenhunt.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
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Also
Minnesota. Kolb with Rice and Harvin and AP to back him up could be deadly.
Kolb looks good off the play action.
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Sending Kolb to Minnesota would be really, really dumb. He would play in a dome and have weapons to spare. Plus they’ve got a defense. The Vikings are ready to compete if they get a QB and I don’t want the Eagles to be the team dumb enough to give the Vikings (with a young core) a good young QB and have the Vikings get in their way down the line.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
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by d-jackfan10 on Feb 10, 2011 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
Also
Aren’t they high on what’s his face? You know that guy who started against us and totally looked like Vick.
by LegendKnight22 on Feb 10, 2011 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
IDK, I don’t think he’s that good but you never know with the Vikings. I’d take Kolb over Webb everyday of the week.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
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by d-jackfan10 on Feb 10, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
Areb't they
making him a receiver?
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
No dumber than trading McNabb in the division. Fortunately that worked out.
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I think trading Kolb to Minnesota would be dumber than that, by a lot. McNabb was sent to a horrible team with no support whatsoever but Kolb would have one of the best supporting casts in the NFL and unlike McNabb, Kolb still has a lot of football to play and is on the rise rather than the decline.
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by d-jackfan10 on Feb 10, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Well trading to an NFC team that could compete with us wouldn't be wise
But you can’t eliminate that many needy suitors and still get the best deal.
Honestly Arizona has the much better set of draft picks, so if we can do the deal before this year’s draft (and I’m with KK on this, if the CBA isn’t done pre-draft, he might not get dealt at all), I’d much rather do it with them than the Vik … oh wait, the VIkings sucked balls too and should have good picks to offer.
I thought they were good because, you know, they beat us good in Philly when we needed that game to stay alive for a bye.
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the vikings wont go for kolb
they vikings are a team who is set to “win now” …… they aren’t going to be looking for a guy like kolb who is going to need a few years to be great…… if i had to make my prediction minnisota is where mcnabb will end up
So, say we do trade Kolb..
What then? Do we start over with a new QB? Draft this year?
Trade back from 23 and take a QB early in the second round.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Feb 10, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
/s (KK reference)
In all seriousness, though, that’s a tough question. What do we do if we get rid of KK (besides starting Vick)? Maybe we can sign a vet like Marc Bulger to back him up, because I sure don’t think Kafka is ready to be a backup yet.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Feb 10, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Lol, well that flew right over my head.
Also, knowing how Andy does things, he wants to target a QB that he can groom. The question is will that be in this year’s draft, or in the future.
by LegendKnight22 on Feb 10, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
I think you wait on getting another QB
Because we’re going to need somebody who can come in a win a few games for us in the case of Vick injury.
I’m kind of leaning Alex Smith myself. That guy looks like he could be fine with a fresh start, some confidence, coaching and not having to live up to being the No. 1 pick/franchise savior. Just some in and manage the game when Vick is hurt.
My other choice would be — stunning, I know — McNabb. If he doesn’t get an offer as a starter (which he probably will, making this all unlikely) and he wants to swallow his pride (also unlikely) and remain in the league, the absolute best landing spot for him is in an offense he knows and with coaches who know how to utlitize him.
Shoot, he might F around and lead us to that Super Bowl victory in relief of an injured Vick. Who knows?
They’ll eventually need to pick up a young guy they can turn to when Vick is 33-34, but I think their high picks this offseason need to go toward O-Line and/or defensive players who can step in and potentially start right away. We can make a Super Bowl run by adding an elite OL, an elite CB and contributors at LB, etc.
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McNabb will NNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRR
come back as a Backup QB.
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by Ralf E Chubbs on Feb 10, 2011 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
I realize it's highly unlikely
I’m just saying as a fan, I would back it. What better than a guy who knows your system?
I think he still believes he’s a starter, and I think there are still enough QB-desperate teams for someone to give him a job. But if he was staring at backup duty for whatever reason, it’d be a great fit.
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locker will be a star
if he slips down the draft id take him
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by phillyeaglesfan on Feb 10, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Probably not.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Feb 10, 2011 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
no way.
maybe, but you can’t say “locker will be a star” and actually believe it 100%.
Don’t do that to yourself.
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by Ralf E Chubbs on Feb 10, 2011 11:07 PM EST up reply actions
that's a bit much
that being said, i think he has the potential to turn into a good qb given time and training, which we clearly can do. it wouldn’t be crazy to take him with a high-mid second if he ever fell to that.
by igglemethis on Feb 10, 2011 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
Here's the thing
23 needs to go to an OL, or at worst, the CB we might not be sure we can get in free agency (you know why)
So Locker would have to slip all the way to the 2nd round.
I just think we have more pressing needs and we shouldn’t have a problem getting a serviceable No. 2 QB.
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Kolb and a 2nd
for Dominic Rodgers-Cromartie, a 2nd, and a 3rd?
by birds'n'raiders on Feb 10, 2011 10:06 PM EST reply actions
Why would the Cardinals want to get rid of DR-C in the first place?
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Feb 10, 2011 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
because
they are stupid…… warner retires and they just think retard leinhart is going to step up and be good when he has never performed well at all in the nfl…… bunch of retards in that office if u ask me….. i mean for fuck sakes denver has 3 potential starting qbs on their roster
and you know Cody?
does he know you say shit like this?
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by Ralf E Chubbs on Feb 10, 2011 11:27 PM EST up reply actions
haha
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by Ralf E Chubbs on Feb 12, 2011 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
How did we get from Kevin Kolb being interested in going to Arizona
to some ridiculous, full blown out rap discussion? C’mon, guys…
In actual relevance to this thread, I hope Kolb gest traded this off-season. Sure, he’d be a great backup option to have for next year, but wouldn’t it be a waste if he just leaves in FA after this season? This whole project would have been a waste, except for the argument of saying that you tried it (which isn’t even true). I’ve never seen a player have the kind of strange career that KK has had in his time in the NFL.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Feb 10, 2011 10:23 PM EST reply actions
C'mon man, it's not your first day here ...
… you know the kids take these threads for little rides on the tangent coaster.
I applaud you for coming back on topic.
I think it comes down to this. The Eagles are going to make a serious run at the Super Bowl next year. Like pulling out all the stops. And if the CBA isn’t done before the draft, the potential haul for Kolb (picks in ’12?) might not be more helpful than he would be in rescuing us in ’11 if Vick goes down. By dealing him we create a need for a No. 2 since Kafka is certainly not ready to take the reins of a Super Bowl team.
I think if you can get help in ‘11 for Kolb than it’s a no-brainer to trade him (while his value is high and salary is low). If the best available offer is help in ‘12 (and if it’s a draft pick, it might not really help until ‘13 or ’14) then you really have to ask if it’s worth creating the hole at No. 2 QB.
Maybe I’m mis-estimating the level of the Eagles’ commitment to winning in ‘11, but I think they’re going balls-out, and they recognize that nothing derails this train faster than an injury to Vick. So keeping Kolb might not be as stupid as it would seem if they can’t trade him before the draft. IMHO.
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The sooner he's gone for picks the better.
He has no future here and he could probably get us a late second rounder.
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But why would a team in possession of late second round picks (most teams who have a decent QB) want to give that if they already have said QB? I’d hope for at least a higher/mid second.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Feb 10, 2011 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
probably more than just a "late 2nd rounder"
Whether or not you think he sucks, the Market for a decent QB is what it is…
Supply and Demand, mother fucker…
you won’t JUST GET “a late second rounder” for Kolb… it will be higher, guaranteed. Multiple draft picks, player swaps, whatever… just not “he could probably get us a late second rounder”.
Where the fuck is your brain?
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by Ralf E Chubbs on Feb 10, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
to be honest, even with all of the excellent reporting from this site saying otherwise, i’d be really suprised if we got more than a mid-2 (with some other picks) for him.
it does help that we showed last year that we’re not afraid to hold on to a QB if the asking price is not met (Vick)
by igglemethis on Feb 10, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
thanks for saying a 2nd rounder *with other picks*
there’s no way we’d get JUST a 2nd rounder for Kolb, a potential starting quarterback.
IT just doesn’t work like that!
I also wouldn’t be opposed to a deal that included no 1st round picks, but a 2nd + more or two 2nds…
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by Ralf E Chubbs on Feb 10, 2011 11:29 PM EST up reply actions
I would be disappointed for anything lower than
the 37 we got for Donovan and the original 40 we used to acquire Kolb.
But I’d take a second-rounder that’s practically a first and some players or additional picks.
Not knowing drives me nuts. I would hate to not know if we have our CB on board, be it Asomugha or Joseph or whoever. And I would hate to not get a top-35 pick in ’11 for Kolb (unless someone is dangling a 27-year-old player at a position of need).
I think the 23 is for our OL and FA is where we’ll get our CB and the Kolb pick can be whatever. Another OL. An LB. Whatever. But the more ammo the better. And when does conventional wisdom ever hold with the Eagles?
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I have a soft spot for KK
Even though he was given a bum deal he takes it in stride and keeps his head up, he’s not a bad QB, he has what it takes to make a good starter. Just like others here, I still would prefer Vick. He’s a beast and will shine once we add to our line and the injury bug stops visiting our OL. I am excited to see what will happen in FA and after the greed stops and the CBA is figured out. This upcoming season is going to be a huge improvement for the eagles. Wait and see.
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