The Linc - Vick Hopes To Stay Healthy, Eagles Sign Return Man
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"I just gotta take care of my body. I really didn't know I was that frail . . . That's 2 years in a row, two rib injuries, and I just can't have that," Vick said. "I've got to be out on the football field and accountable for my team. It's crazy, because we could have been in a situation where the situation is different, it's the end of the season, probably going to the playoffs, and I get hurt. I've got to make sure for the duration of the season I can keep myself healthy, throughout the rest of my career."
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Jesus Christ
People still think we can make the playoffs
Even if somhow the Giants and Cowboys go 0-4 (which is impossible because they play each other) so 0-2-2 I guess
We’re so bad I see us losing the rest of our games too…. Sigh..
Should have traded AS, resigned djax, and got a LB or 2 in the offseason
Just wait until December..
Not that it will happen….
But Cowboys 1-3
Giants 2-2.
Eagles 4-0
We would all be 8-8.
Eagles win tie breakers.
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Dec 6, 2011 7:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
And , just as likely......
My wifes boobs swell 2x in size,her ass tightens up like an apple ,she develops an insatiable desire to swallow my load daily,and insists on bringing home hot virgins home for me to bang.
Not that that will happen.
It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.
the day we only score 3 points with this offense, is the day ill give everyone a dollar haha
by bleedgreen89 on Sep 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
by JJeaglerooter on Dec 6, 2011 7:48 AM EST up reply actions 5 recs
hey, a man can dream cant he?!?!
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Dec 6, 2011 9:14 AM EST up reply actions
I thought I was the only one who had that dream….
by CrazyBoutTheGreen on Dec 6, 2011 9:22 AM EST up reply actions
Good thing he’s not Eric Herrmann.
The Curse of Lombardi
#TeamFireAndyReid
"Stats are for fantasy and losers. Winning is an attitude."
by d-jackfan10 on Dec 6, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Why would you want virgins?
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
it’s so easy to jump on djax and he definitely ain’t innocent, but you gotta admit that eagles FO really goofed up this year. you can’t go “all in” then not give your star diva WR a new contract. that just never made sense to me. how can you be willing to gamble millions on an injured Steve smith and a washed up Vince young and then refuse to re-do djax’s contract because (rumor) he wants 10 mill instead of 8? logic fail
by jimb0z on Dec 6, 2011 6:30 AM EST via mobile reply actions
They probably want to pay him. He is a star and he’s worth a lot. But it takes two to tango and most likely, they offered a lot, but not as much as he or his agent wanted. They can’t break the bank on Jackson because they’re going to have to pay roughly the same to Maclin and McCoy next year. After the recent FA spending spree and obvious holes that need to be filled in FA this next offseason, there just won’t be enough cap room for all of it.
Hasn’t McCoy already agreed a new deal?
by scottisheagle on Dec 6, 2011 8:31 AM EST up reply actions
No
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
Exactly
They probably made Jackson a few offers, offers that were probably fair. Jackson thinks he’s a #1, and he is good but he’s not a #1 WR. He disappears too often and his hands, route running are terrible and he’s injury prone. The Eagles offered him a fair deal I’m willing to bet, they always do to the players they want to keep. I’m putting this on Jackson and his agent, they wanted way more then he is worth.
If Jackson played his cards right he would have had a new contract by week 4 of this season. Don’t put all the blame on the Eagles FO.
nobody is putting all the blame on the FO, but they deserve some of it. Half your post is just speculation. One thing we know for sure is that they’ve made some huge mistakes this season and I think this is one of them. He dissapears often and his route running is terrible but those issues didn’t seem to stop him from leading the team in yards each season since he started in ’08. Also never stopped him from being out #1 special teams threat every year too.
injury prone? did you not see who they just signed to a 100 million contract? I love vick to death but you really gonna list injury prone as a reason not to sign djax right after they sign vick long term?
I've never been a Vick supporter either.
I personally think it was a mistake to sign Vick and put everythign on him. He had that one great season, but what has he done before and since? Absolutely nothing, I think the Eagles FO mess started there with giving Vick the reins. I’m sure everyone will hate that I say that, but that is my opinion. And so far, after last years miracle year he had he’s really had his average season, injured a few games every season, high INT %.
I’m perfectly fine with letting Jackson walk as well. You say he puts up those number which he did. But look at him now, he’s acting like a child. He’s even said he shouldn’t be considered a WR he should be considered a playmaker. OK, but how do you pay a playmaker? He’s very hit or miss, you can’t deny that. He’s asking for #1 money which in now way he deserves. As for his special teams play, he has his moments. But he has just as many stupid moments as well.
On top of it all he’s not a team player, he’s a “me” player and he’s displaying that this season. it’s why he dropped to the second round in the first place and why he got the rookie contract that he did. He’s proved that he’s done zero maturing!
It’s not for us to decide how to play his cards. They are his cards, and only he knows what he wants ( theoretically ).
He has provided us with lots of pretty funny, good time moments. Great. The next guy will be different, but still can bring the fans much happiness.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
ok ..
so if we dont resign him, he gets big money anyway with a tag. Then he becomes bait. … I say, get what we can for him, he is not worth the top 5 money. Making a deal like the Kolb deal would be great. Dont think he is that valuable as a QB. The market is just not there for a CONCUSSION prone small WR.
If he agrees to a smaller deal, wonderful.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Dec 6, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
They know how much he wants. He’s said he wants top $. Which he isn’t worth. And all he’s done is drive his price down this year. It’s not just on the FO. Stupidity has prevailed over its opponent, our 2011 season.
Shady is the man.
by ProtoTyler on Dec 6, 2011 7:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
you might have missed my point
seems kind of silly to be worrying about the worth of a player when your throwing 2 million at an injured steve smith who hadn’t played a game in almost a year, and 4.5 million on vince young. Djax has been a top performer in philly since 2008. I’m not saying Djax is worth larry fitzgerald money, but it seems kind of silly to use that logic and then go and sign a bunch of FAs far more than they are worth.
2 things ...
1…. a player who seems to have a bad season at the time of his contract renewal should be given a contract that is incentive based. he performs, he gets paid. Win-win.
2…. the FO did not overpay for any of these players. Their talent is worth the money they got. Unfortunately, we have a DC who doesnt know how to use the best press corner in the league.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Dec 6, 2011 9:18 AM EST up reply actions
1: totally agree
2: I wouldn’t put nnamdi on that list. He came off great seasons, and was highly sought after. We paid what he was worth. Steve Smith and VY are the two most glaring examples.
Smith coming off a major injury couldnt even get 2 million from his own team, and was not going to be in playing shape for the beginning of the season. At the time I didn’t think he was worth the contract, and in retrospect he DEFINITELY wasn’t worth it
VY was cut by the titans, is known to have serious mental issues, and under ideal circumstances would have just sit on the bench all season anyway. We already had a capable backup in kafka. why pay VY 4.5 million for US to rehabilitate HIM?
those are the kinds of overvalued contracts i’m talking about
Smith, when healthy, is easily worth the 2mil. The problem we have is that we have too many wide outs on the team for him to get the reps he deserves even when he is healthy. He should have been put higher on the roster than Cooper.
I think the idea around VY is that he is a mobile qb that is comparable to Vick (not as good mind you, but comparable in style) so that we would not have to change the scheme should an injury occur. Kafka is obviously a more pocket passer requiring the Oline to change the way they block, the timing of routes, etc. I think the idea of bringing him in was a good one, but I still have faith in Kafka and after the preseason showing Kafka had, thought he should have been the #2 QB. Too often in this league, players are played based on their salaries, not their talent.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Dec 6, 2011 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
true enough. You make some good points! I guess it’s easier to have a strong opinion about these things with the power of retrospect. lol
yeah, but I do agree we should have re-signed DeSean a long time ago. Should have never gotten this bad. I dont blame the FO for his poor performance though, that is on him.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Dec 6, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
yeah. at first I was sympathetic towards jackson because he did come back to camp and was on the field even though he didn’t get a new contract, but if your gonna be on the field you should be giving it your 100%. Otherwise just stay home and hold out. FO bungled the situation but jackson is making it real hard to feel any sympathy for him
yep, when he came back, the contract should have been done. But, like someone else already said, offers were made to him, very reasonable offers. And he turned them down. So F him.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Dec 6, 2011 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
Goofed?
There are believable rumors around that they offered him $8M per year. That’s more than fair for DeSean. But no, he needs to act like a poosy and half-ass it during games. F#ck him, what’s the FO supposed to do? Say “sorry DeSean, but we goofed. We only offered a bankrupt child such as yourself $8M, now please, take $10M! Because that’s the only way you’ll truly play for the other 52 guys depending on you”? Hells no. If he doesn’t care staring at $8M per year, he won’t care at all.
rumor is a rumor
And i’ll stick to my guns on this. I don’t think it’s a very believable rumor when the entire organization was “all in” and willing to spend big money, but unwilling to give a star receiver an extra 2 million. They signed steve smith to 2 mill per year without even knowing if he’d be able to play again
they knew he’d play, just not the first week or two of the regular season. He was just insurance for possible injuries to Mac or Jack. Plus, an opportunity to screw the Vagiants? yes please!
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Dec 6, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
not arguing with that. just pointing out how ironic it is to pay 2 mill for smith under those circumstances, yet refuse to pay djax an extra 2 mill when he’s been your biggest playmaker for the last 3 seasons
Such a fan attitude, ‘just pay him the extra 2 mil’. A team can’t just give a guy 2 freakin million dollars because he overrates himself. They set that precedent and soon everyone will want more money than they’re worth. The Eagles will pay their players what they’re worth, or else they’ll let them walk. It’s the smartest way to do business in the long run.
They offered him more than 2 mil! He turned it down!
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Dec 6, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
eh...
Call it a rumor if you want about offers being made to DeSean and them not being acceptable, but his agent was in town for extended amounts of time on several occasions. Doubt he was here for cheesesteaks!
I will guarantee he was offered well more than 2 mil.
He is:
a diva.
a cancer.
a fool.
immature.
self-centered.
a lightning rod for referees.
narcissistic.
He is:
talented.
fast.
a good decoy.
a game changer.
a Defensive Coordinators worst nightmare.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Dec 6, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions
HEY!
I’ve taken a 2 hour detour to drive through philly and hit up jims steaks :P
good point.
but 2 hrs is not a week. LOL.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Dec 6, 2011 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Way Off Topic........
But you got to see this……
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=e2xvHoF4vUc
It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.
the day we only score 3 points with this offense, is the day ill give everyone a dollar haha
by bleedgreen89 on Sep 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
That was amazing lol
Shady is the man.
by ProtoTyler on Dec 6, 2011 7:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
you mean like both these sites stole apples idea?
by VRFC8 on Dec 6, 2011 9:07 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
do both those videos make fun of the apple commercial?
Yes, yes they do. So if you want to talk about stealing others ideas, technically apples marketing idea was stolen for satire.
by VRFC8 on Dec 6, 2011 9:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Satire is not stealing
Satire is protected as free speech throughout Europe and in the United States. Satire is not steeling or plagiarism.
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im well aware of what satire is and how it is used
But I’m just saying that even if it is legal it doesn’t make it right. Technically you are taking someone else’s idea and changing it or adding to it for comedic value. Point being you are still taking someone else’s idea.
by VRFC8 on Dec 6, 2011 9:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Uh.. no.. that's not what he means...
He’s saying that the youtuber reposted College Humor’s parody as his own work… its the same video, it was done by CH and some guy is getting youtube hits off for stealing it and posting it as his own. But next time feel free to cool down a minute before responding.
wow you are narrow minded
First of all I find it funny that someone would care about “hits” a website gets vs a guy posting on YouTube. Either way the video is funny and I got amusement out of it.
Secondly you really don’t see the irony about him complaining about it? Just because satire is legal( which I don’t have a problem with) doesn’t mean it is not stealing someone else’s idea. For example say the guy in YouTube added a cartoon of the guy driving his car into his house at the end. Would you call that satire? I’m gonna say probably not because it wouldn’t be funny to you. But since college humor added something you find funny to the end of an apple commercial it is ok they stole apples marketing idea.
by VRFC8 on Dec 6, 2011 9:55 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
WTF
dude. it’s a skit, not a commercial. it’s a skit that makes fun of the apple commercial. Some other dude took that skit, cut out the collegehumor credits and reposted it on youtube as his own work. If you can’t see the difference then I dunno what else to say to you
You mean that the “skit” doesn’t begin the same way as the Apple commercial? Really you are dense to not even see that. Is college humor not making money off of an idea that Apple created for marketing by adding a satirical skit to it?
by VRFC8 on Dec 6, 2011 10:05 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
i also am still confused why you even care about some guy posting it on youtube
by VRFC8 on Dec 6, 2011 10:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I see your point but your logic is just wrong, dude. CH made a parody. It’s their parody of an apple commercial. the youtuber didn’t make anything. And I care because as someone who has his content regularly uploaded to youtube by other people passing my work off as their own, it’s a touchy subject.
I will reiterate..
Feel free to cool down a minute before responding.
Seriously you’re going overboard man. Especially with this rant on satire being another form of stealing… which it isn’t, but that’s another topic. This is stealing, someone makes something, and someone else copies it as though they made it themselves… and that guy is the one that obviously cares about youtube hits or why would they copy it and post it as their own?
I really dont know why you think im mad
And let me make it clear i love satire(especially south park). But to me it is still techincally stealing. I know it is legal, but that skit is a perfect example of someone using someone elses idea for finacial gain, which is exactly what jim was complaining about the guy on youtube doing. If apple never made that commercial, would college humor ever have made that skit? No. It is technically not a unique idea simply adding onto someone elses.
And im not the only person to ever think satire or parody (once again I enjoy both) was copy right infringment. I mean hell just look at the number of times southpark has been in court or pulled episodes.
Anyone get the feeling....
That Vick coming back might give the team a spark? Shame the chances of it amounting to anything substantial are so low….
No I don't get that feeling at all
They were playing terrible with him before I don’t see much changing.
Vick and Maclin, yes. I am not sure if even 1999-2003 McNabb could do anything with this corps.
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I can actually see this happening.
Then they fall right back down to earth in the playoffs and lose in the first round.
I’m not buying…
by CrazyBoutTheGreen on Dec 6, 2011 9:43 AM EST up reply actions
Eagles messed up big time
Signing all those big names with big contracts for 1 year would piss me off especially signing VY and SS???? You cant buy a SB ring, Jeffery.
The FO should have focused on the 2010 Eagles team and staff, not completely revolutionized it. The biggest mistake they did was not correct their problem earlier in the season when they started spiraling downward (9ers game).
Just give me one game and that is to destroy the Cowgirls in Dallas. PLEASE? That would be the only thing I ask for this X-Mas. I will then forget this season ever happened and look onward for 2012.
bringing in vets on 1yr deals for depth is not the problem
Name one starter we brought in on a 1yr deal? The problem with this team was ar thought he could slam square pegs in round holes and it would work. Like hiring a dline coach before a d coor. Like making a long time friend oline coach into a d coor with probowl egos. Like not running the ball more when your oline was new and young and clearly better at run blocking. Like treating mike vick like peyton manning when he isn’t (not saying vick can’t win or isn’t good. He just can’t win the same way peyton does). Like wide 9 with no vet lbs.
All these issues I put ahead of them not paying Desean
by VRFC8 on Dec 6, 2011 9:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I love the NFL draft
it used to be one of my favorite weekends of the year.
Now its my favorite Thursday-Sunday of the year.
I’ve never looked forward to it more than this year.
by CrazyBoutTheGreen on Dec 6, 2011 9:24 AM EST reply actions
Robert Griffin, III - QB Baylor
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I enjoy the draft more than the Super Bowl
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#PayDeSeanJackson
by Djax10 on Dec 6, 2011 9:34 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I can see it now...
Reid reaching for some undersized DE/OLB…..AGAIN!!
by CrazyBoutTheGreen on Dec 6, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions
Just go do something else during the 3rd round
It’ll do you no good to watch it
actually, just skip the first three rounds and tune in for 4-7. thats when we get our starters.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Dec 6, 2011 10:03 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
The only thing I can get excited about is...
My ability to enjoy the draft totaly depends on who Andy Ried listens to for draft advice…. Think about it, Howard Mudd wants to take a shot on some Olinemen that suit his scheme in the later rounds? Boom theres J Kelce your new starting centre. Cheers Howard.
If Any can get that same sort of input to the defensive side of the ball then maybe he can start to draft the right guys, with Washburn there I dont think we can have any more excuses for bad picks along the D-line, but someone needs to be able to scout LB’s and Safeties as much as I’d love standout players, we just need some freaking depth, I’d rather throw out a rotation of 6 okay-good players than 1 GREAT and 5 meh-bad players? For the safeties I’ll take anyone not named Jarred Page.
I don't want to make the playoffs...
Unless the team has found the magical missing piece and we win 8 in a row (or whatever the count is), after the Giants & Cowboys go 2-2 and 1-3 respectively… Unless that all happens and the team somehow wins the superbowl, I don’t want them to make the playoffs. We have like 12 picks in this coming draft, and even if we pull off the crazy and make the playoffs, if things aren’t completely different we’ll just lose (maybe win a game then lose the next who knows)… and all that will do is drop our picks further down. I’m kind of in the mood to shop the higher ranked picks, and get on with an off season so this group of names can have some time to gel.
I feel weird saying that, but just seems like the there’s no real hope this year , so lets put effort into next season… am I weird for thinking that?
My favorite line from Tommy's article
Finally, let’s look at a couple of recent Super Bowl winners. Green Bay won the 2010 SB. Back in 2008 they were 6-10. The defense stunk. Mike McCarthy went out and hired veteran DC Dom Capers. The defense was good in 2009 and the team made the playoffs. The defense was outstanding in 2010 and the team won the SB.
Those teams had many pieces, but they couldn’t quite put it together. They needed one more piece, and once they got it- Super Bowl. That’s what the Eagles need. One more piece. Not a wholesale change.
Eagles: Suck But still. #KeepAndyReid
Flyers: On a nice roll
Phillies: Sigh
or Fisher.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Dec 6, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions
I’d like Fisher as a DC.
Eagles: Suck But still. #KeepAndyReid
Flyers: On a nice roll
Phillies: Sigh
Same or Spags
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FLY #7 FLY !
by ShadyMcVickFactor on Dec 6, 2011 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
If I were a betting man...
which I AM, I’d put money on us winning 2-3 of our last 4 games. I see us beating the ‘skins, dolphins, and possibly either dallas or ny. The only positive I can think of, is that it may boost our players moral a bit for the offseason. A little bit of chemistry in these last few games could do a lot to get these guys in the right mindset for next year. I know…I know, it’ll cause us to slide a few spots in the draft, but I don’t think we should underestimate the value of having an upward trend as our guys are getting ready to have 6 months off.
I dont see us beating Miami.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Dec 6, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
Awesome.
Vick is gonna take care his body.
That’s the shit that legends our made of.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
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