Luke Kuechly Wins Butkus Award
by JasonB on Dec 5, 2011 12:30 PM EST
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Boston College LB Luke Kuechly has been named the winner of the 2011 Butkus award as the nation's top linebacker. Kuechly leads all of all college football with 191 tackles this season and his 532 career tackles are ACC and BC records. The junior was second in the voting for the award last year, which was won by Von Miller.
"A lot of people said I got snubbed last year because Von Miller won it, but I don't think I got gypped at all," Kuechly said. "Look at him now. He's the No. 2 draft pick and he's killing it right now in the NFL."
Kuechly was a run away winner in the voting.
He received 58 points and 18 first-place votes. He was followed by Alabama teammates Dont'a Hightower (33 points and 5 first-place votes) and Courtney Upshaw (23 and 3), Manti Te'o of Notre Dame (20 and 1), Lavonte David of Nebraska (16 and 1), and Jarvis Jones of Georgia (14 and 1).
If the Eagles are looking for a LB with their top 12 pick, and they should be, this is obviously a guy that should be a major consideration. As you'll see after the jump, the Butkus award has been a pretty decent predictor of NFL success over the past 10 years or so.
1999 LaVar Arrington Penn State
2000 Dan Morgan Miami
2001 Rocky Calmus Oklahoma
2002 E.J. Henderson Maryland
2003 Teddy Lehman Oklahoma
2004 Derrick Johnson Texas
2005 Paul Posluszny Penn State
2006 Patrick Willis Ole Miss
2007 James Laurinaitis Ohio State
2008 Aaron Curry Wake Forest
2009 Rolando McClain Alabama
2010 Von Miller Texas A&M
2011 Luke Kuechly Boston College
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WEEEEEEEE!!!! I'M CONVINCED!!!!
But seriously that list is pretty good
I Miss BDAWK
Andy Reid should stay one more year
Shady McCoy is Dirty
Ha, I assume you got the same email about the Butkus award that I did.
Usually, when I receive emails like that, they’re long as hell, very sales-y. Just kind of annoying.
The Butkus Awrd email… not so much. Here is was:
Luke Kuechly of Boston College won the 27th annual Butkus Award.
Details are attached. Please contact me if you need additional information.
Very Butkus-like.
Aren't you the lucky one.
I had to put up with endless ads peddling shit I never even conceived of. Ever.
Videos that were mute – resistant. You know the drill.
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The Eagles do not draft LBs in the first round.
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Sumtimz they duz
Jerry Robinson dog.
Mutha fucka could ball!
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+1
We could use him now couldn’t we?
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by 92-74-99-96 on Dec 5, 2011 3:35 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Big fan of his
Just matters where we end up drafting. He is definitely the 1st round LB that I want although I doubt they take an LB. We can only hope.
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Aren't the previous winners bigger than kuechly?
The reason I point this out is that even with bigger size some of those winners are having problems or had to retire early.
Yeah Willis is good but Mcclaine spent the night in jail.
I still think Manti is far and away the best choice for our team. Small fast players is what currently have is really not working out too well.
Maybe if he falls to the second round I’d be okay with drafting kuechly.
by Saidrick on Dec 5, 2011 12:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Some are bigger, some are smaller, and some are exactly the same size.
That’s what makes the NFL such a great place to spend your money.
Hey!
Don’t forget to buy. Crissmiss is coming.
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On a side note
We could have had a previous winner for a fourth and seventh , but phat ass doesn’t like Indian food( curry) .
by Saidrick on Dec 5, 2011 1:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sweet potato soup with curry is a very nice combination.
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Funny
I got the PE email about free shipping yesterday and couldn’t resist.
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by Ralf E Chubbs on Dec 6, 2011 7:47 AM EST up reply actions
People act like he is gonna play at 237 for his entire career
James Lauriniaitis combine weight-244, NFL weight -253
Demeco Ryans combine weight-236, NFL weight-247
Jerod Mayo combine weight-237, NFL weight-245
Clay Matthews combine weight-240, NFL weight-255
Brian Cushing combine weight-240, NFL weight-248
D’Qwell Jackson combine weight-228, NFL weight 240
And that’s just LBs. The list goes on. I highly doubt that if Kuechly were drafted that he would stay at 237 his entire career.
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by Eaglesgrl5 on Dec 5, 2011 12:50 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Top draft pick this year?
Brandon Weeden.
What? He’s only 28…very mature…not too much tread on those tires
Luke Kuechly doesn't just lead all of college football in blah,blah,blah.
He leads all of all college football in ,well, you know.
Record # tackles in ACC =multiple Super Bowl trophies in are trophy case… ‘cause we be ballin’.
No’m sayin’?
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6’3" 237…
Astra Inclinant, Non Necessitant
by EagleGreeninMD on Dec 5, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
certainly undersized.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Dec 5, 2011 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure Ray Lewis was about that coming out
And so is Beason. Vilma’s listed at 230.
These guys are fine at that size.
I’m 6’3" 230 and I look bigger than Kuechly. I’m also a trainer but still.
Astra Inclinant, Non Necessitant
by EagleGreeninMD on Dec 5, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Ray Lewis was listed at 6’1 , 244/245 coming out college. and um, well not white. I know it sounds racist but most of the bad asses in this league are also , uh, not white . Give me stats before you hate on my numbers break down.
by Saidrick on Dec 5, 2011 4:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
um... urlacher is um white.
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by thePurpleLion on Dec 5, 2011 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
So is Clay Matthews.
Sean Lee is great young LB as well.
Jame Laurinitis.
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by Saidrick on Dec 5, 2011 4:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ain't gonna hate on your numbers because I was shooting from the hip
But the difference between 237 and 245 is negligible when you know these guys are going into a professional training program immediately. He could easily put on 10-15 lbs.
Or the press guide could just say he did…like listing Trent Cole at 270
And you are making stuff up. Ray Lewis was around 230 pounds coming out of college and he has bulked up about 15-20 pounds since entering the NFL 15 years ago.
And most NFL badasses aren’t white? Okay bud. Rob Gronkowski? Jordy Nelson? Peyton Hillis (who was badass in 2010)? Jared Allen? Kevin Williams? James Laurinitis? Sean Lee? Jarrett Johnson? Brian Urlacher? Clay Matthews? Chad Greenway?
C’mon.
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Just curious because I know you're always up on the draft
What are your thoughts on Te’o compared to Kuechly?
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"When I'm dead and buried, and my time here has passed. I want them to bury me upside down, so my critics can kiss my ass." - Bob Knight
And are you still high on Audie Cole?
formerly jdcvr6
"When I'm dead and buried, and my time here has passed. I want them to bury me upside down, so my critics can kiss my ass." - Bob Knight
And most NFL badasses aren’t white
Umm, they arent. Key word being “Most”. Thats not even a question. Not saying there is none or cant be because those would both be wrong.
ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th
Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT
Shady is the best RB in the NFL not AP
he is the real deal, that dude scares me to death more than anyone on that team besides Vick with time to throw the ball
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by ChiaCrack on Nov 5, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Its completely unreasonable to judge players by their skin color. It’s simply retarded.
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Who said if you're white you cant play Djack? Not Judging them by their skin
I literally said in this post I would be ok with Luke as our 1st round choice so how is that judging on color? Did I say if a person is white they won’t be as good? No, I agreed on (a poorly worded) an observant statement (about players IN the NFL already)that less than the majority of the quality ones belong to a particular group. That is not saying anything about players that are coming in/ will come in.
Relax man, im not the reverse Eric Herrmann
ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th
Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT
Shady is the best RB in the NFL not AP
he is the real deal, that dude scares me to death more than anyone on that team besides Vick with time to throw the ball
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by ChiaCrack on Nov 5, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
You’re using Luke’s skin color against him.
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"Stats are for fantasy and losers. Winning is an attitude."
Because im not slobbering over him like you
And proclaiming him the smartest /most instinctual being to put on cleats in a quarter century?
ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th
Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT
Shady is the best RB in the NFL not AP
he is the real deal, that dude scares me to death more than anyone on that team besides Vick with time to throw the ball
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by ChiaCrack on Nov 5, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
People really don't understand the words and arguments they use, do they?
Ray Lewis was listed at 6’1 , 244/245 coming out college. and um, well not white
Back to the original statement, okay? I know this isn’t you but you’re coming to the defense of this statement.
There is this thing called “criterion”, it basically amounts to a standard or principle by which you judge something.
Now, everyone in this comment section is judging Luke Kuechly on some level and in that original statement, there were two criterions that were put forth. The first being size and the second being black.
Now you can certainly have someone exceed the proposed criteria and use it to form a positive argument. For example, I could say that I’m looking for good instincts in a linebacker (criterion being instincts in this scenario) and Luke Kuechly has great instincts.
BUT that is not what you’re or the other guy is doing, instead, you’re holding the fact that he is white against him, downgrading him because of his skin color because one of your criteria for judgement was whether or not he is black.
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No, Actually i was agreeing ABOUT PLAYERS IN THE NFL. Which wasnt a statement on possible out comes but WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SEEN. If you counted “Franchise Players” for a team less than a majority are in one group. That can’t be debated, 80% of the NFL is Black so of course there will be more. Jeez, take your skirt off. That is saying NOTHING about future players that come into the league. I’ve been watching this game longer than you have (and probably played it at a higher level but that doesnt matter) so trust me I know skill has no color. Hell you maybe the one judging on color, you said in another post that Brian Urlacher was a small, unathletic player from a small school; which was a majority WRONG statement, he was an athletic FREAK but since he was white and went to New mexico you ASSUMED he was unathletic.
ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th
Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT
Shady is the best RB in the NFL not AP
he is the real deal, that dude scares me to death more than anyone on that team besides Vick with time to throw the ball
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by ChiaCrack on Nov 5, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Dear lord….
Most players in the NFL are black but that doesn’t mean white players can’t be good. K?
And actually, there were three criterion proposed by that guy in the other thread: not being white, being unathletic and coming from a subpar football school. I was pointing out guys who met two of the three criterion, Brian Urlacher was white and went to a subpar football school. Boom, there you have it.
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"Stats are for fantasy and losers. Winning is an attitude."
but that doesn’t mean white players can’t be good. K?
Again, you are talking in FUTURE terms; the way you use “Can’t” implies that the observant FACT of the CURRENT NFL somehow will either:A,) not be subjectible to a steady change or B.) Limit the success rate of future employees that will come into the NFL, thats not the statement I agreed to. Leave the college players out of it, this is about players that have already shown there worth (or lack thereof) and making a factual (meaningless) point.
And just admit you knew NOTHING about Urlacher coming out of school man, lol I mean you can’t possibly think you know everything there is to know about football, can you?
ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th
Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT
Shady is the best RB in the NFL not AP
he is the real deal, that dude scares me to death more than anyone on that team besides Vick with time to throw the ball
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by ChiaCrack on Nov 5, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
*their
ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th
Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT
Shady is the best RB in the NFL not AP
he is the real deal, that dude scares me to death more than anyone on that team besides Vick with time to throw the ball
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by ChiaCrack on Nov 5, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
He’s also a junior in college. All these guys put on bulk as they get into the NFL. He’s got the frame to add size.
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He's got this knack for making himself look bigger. Like a house cat.
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I dont claim to know a lot about the upcoming guys from college .... other than what I hear.
Luke seems to be very talented … so did JaMarcus Russell. He just seems very small for this position in the NFL. Someone please tell me there is a talented guy that is more similar to Clay or Urlacher size. We need someone to bash some skulls and take leadership here!
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
Because the bigger the better right?
if you go into the draft thinking like that you’re crazy. LB isn’t all about size, it’s about technique as well and instincts. Two things this guy has, and he tackles like a mad man. All he does is put himself in the right place to make the tackle and once he’s on you you’re not getting away.
I’m all for this guy. Tackling is contagious, maybe he will rub off on the others.
That comparison is so off-kilter. You’re comparing a notoriously lazy but incredibly gifted player who underachieved (Russell) to one of the hardest working, productive and intelligent linebackers in college football.
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God…what could have been. That guy was unreal. F#cking concussions…
If we draft a LB in the first round, its gotta be Manti Te’o.
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What makes you like Te’o more?
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Te’o is bigger, a better athlete than Kuechly. and he can come in an play MLB and instantly make a impact in run D, and coverage.
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James Carmon is pretty big, why don’t we get him to be our middle linebacker?
It would appear that the only criteria any of you use to judge a linebacker is their size. I hope you all realize how stupid that is.
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haha i agree
LB is a crazy position, size can help but technique, instincts and tackling are much more important in my eyes.
Te’o is heavier and a better athelete than Kuechly, but Kuechly’s “lack” of athleticism is overstated in my opinion. Kuechly has the frame to put on weight and most likely will once he gets into the NFL, and Kuechly’s instincts are far superior to any LB in this draft and the best in the last couple drafts.
formerly jdcvr6
"When I'm dead and buried, and my time here has passed. I want them to bury me upside down, so my critics can kiss my ass." - Bob Knight
I like the idea of taking a guy who knows his shit and have him put weight on.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Dec 5, 2011 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
If Teo comes out
We could get him as a second rounder and I believe he has more upside than LK.
Of course, Te’o is still a junior and word around seems to be he will stay another year.
Teo I think will slip to the top of the 2nd round kind of like Laurinaitis did
Hopefully we can snag him then, cause I dont think Andy is gonna grab a LB in the first round…when he can have his pick of whichever Guard or DT he wants in the first round
kinda like casey?
kuechly is far better than mathews
but everything i hear about kuechly…i think…
“casey mathews”
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Question may be who do the eagles like more in the first round – if they pick #10 overall, is Kuechly the best option at that point? I don’t actually know, but it’s the approach they’ll take. Alternately, they’ll trade back, pick up a bunch of picks and use those picks to move up in the second round to overdraft someone
To the people asking/concerned with how big he is, sometimes you just gotta use your eyes to watch a player play. Look at Brian Rolle. He is midget like compared to other linebackers, however hes been our most physical LB this year. I know its not saying much considering how poorly our other LB’s have played, but I’m trying to say that size isn’t everything. It’s rare to find an MLB that is 6-3 or 6-4 and 250+ pounds. Instincts and intelligence go a long way.
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Brian rolle is 5’9 , 218lbs. Kuechely is 6’3, 237. So his body is 5-6" taller and only 20lbs heavier. That doesn’t sound like a good build to play linebacker in the NFL. It’s great for the ACC.
Size matters, it’s always about the money, and while there are exceptions to this, they just prove the general rule ( stereotype) to be true more often than not.
by Saidrick on Dec 5, 2011 3:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Size matters to a point
He can and will get bigger. Look at the guy he has the frame to add weight.
He’s got great instincts and is a VERY good tackler, something this team needs bad!
Look at this list ...
Pat Angerer – 6’0" – 235 pounds
D’Qwell Jackson – 6’0" – 240 pounds
Curtis Lofton – 6’0" – 241 pounds
James Laurinaitis – 6’2" – 250 pounds
Paul Posluszny – 6’1" – 238 pounds
Wesley Woodyard – 6’0" – 229 pounds
Jamar Chaney – 6’0" – 242 pounds
David hawthorne – 6’0" – 246 pounds
Stephen Tulloch – 5’11" – 240 pounds
EJ Henderson – 6’1" – 245 pounds
This is a list of the top 10 4-3 MLB’s in terms of total tackles throughout the league so far. On ESPN, Kuechly is listed at 6’3" 237 pounds. He has room to put on weight and I would be shocked if he doesn’t get to 240 pounds after his first year in a NFL lifting program. He has amassed 516 total tackles in 37 college games and has had double digit tackles in all but 5 of those games. 3 of those 5 games he had 9 tackles and the other two games were the first of his collegiate career.
formerly jdcvr6
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Were any of those guys 1st round picks though? Thats the main issue.
ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th
Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT
Shady is the best RB in the NFL not AP
he is the real deal, that dude scares me to death more than anyone on that team besides Vick with time to throw the ball
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by ChiaCrack on Nov 5, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
How is that the main issue?
We’re talking about whether or not people that are not 6-4 250+ pounds can be successful in the NFL. With your logic, you are arguing that Vontaze Burfict is more deserving of a first round pick than Kuechly?
formerly jdcvr6
"When I'm dead and buried, and my time here has passed. I want them to bury me upside down, so my critics can kiss my ass." - Bob Knight
Not quite
My logic is if we have a top 15 pick i dont take a LB until round 2. Kuechly may be worth 1st round but hes not top 15 in my book. If we do go Lb in the first (and we have a top 15 pick) We will trade back and then pick. Andy Reid will not take a LB (in this draft) in the top 15 picks
ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th
Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT
Shady is the best RB in the NFL not AP
he is the real deal, that dude scares me to death more than anyone on that team besides Vick with time to throw the ball
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by ChiaCrack on Nov 5, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Jon Beason – 6’0" – 237 pounds
Jonathan Vilma – 6’1" – 230 pounds
Both were first round picks.
formerly jdcvr6
"When I'm dead and buried, and my time here has passed. I want them to bury me upside down, so my critics can kiss my ass." - Bob Knight
And both those players
are way more athletic and had more of that P word everybody loves, Potential.
ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th
Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT
Shady is the best RB in the NFL not AP
he is the real deal, that dude scares me to death more than anyone on that team besides Vick with time to throw the ball
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by ChiaCrack on Nov 5, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Potential is a dumb word, potential is impossible to gauge.
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Maybe I need to make it more obvious
had more of that P word everybody loves, Potential.
Potential is a dumb word
rahhh I hate Words…
potential is impossible to gauge
Wrong. Gauging potential is the easy part, getting them to “Live up to their potential” is the hard part
ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th
Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT
Shady is the best RB in the NFL not AP
he is the real deal, that dude scares me to death more than anyone on that team besides Vick with time to throw the ball
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by ChiaCrack on Nov 5, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
Potential is just another way of calling someone athletic.
I’m really starting to dislike the word “potential” when it comes to judging football players. Why? Because nobody is capable of accurately perceiving it. In the draft I think that it would be reasonable to say that Jamarcus Russell had more potential than Tom Brady, no? Didn’t Blaine Gabbert have more potential than Andy Dalton? Didn’t Aaron Curry have more potential than James Laurinitis?
Saying a guy has “potential” doesn’t do it for me, sorry. I’ll take what is actually happening over something that could potentially happen.
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see the thing is you only using negative aspects
What about Cam Newton’s Potential?
Von Miller?
Demarcus Ware?
Shady?
I never said Potential was a good or bad thing because its BOTH. It can burn a franchise OR build a franchise… Thats the fun part. It keeps “Experts” like you seem to be at the same level as everybody else, which is, you don’t have a clue.
ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th
Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT
Shady is the best RB in the NFL not AP
he is the real deal, that dude scares me to death more than anyone on that team besides Vick with time to throw the ball
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by ChiaCrack on Nov 5, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
What the… Here is the thing. You’re saying potential as another way of saying someone is athletic. What you’re failing to account for his that thing between the ears which believe it or not, has a HUGE influence on someone’s potential.
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Umm no im not.
You’re getting caught up on the examples used instead of the purpose they were used for. All this too say; there isn’t one thing that potential has to be limited too Nor many things it has to meet. I think you’re trying to put a limit on what could garner “Potential”. Anything can have potential, whether its athleticism or another “Trait” that is deemed special. For example Deseans ’Athleticism" IS the reason he has “potential” as Alex Smiths “Smarts” was HIS reason for having an (Seemingly) abondant amount of Potential. You weigh ones possibility of their talent with meeting its peak, which is a crap shoots since MANY other things can/will help/hurt this outcome.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th
Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT
Shady is the best RB in the NFL not AP
he is the real deal, that dude scares me to death more than anyone on that team besides Vick with time to throw the ball
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by ChiaCrack on Nov 5, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
I really hope we just take the best player available with our picks, this drafting for need bullshit has to stop. Who are the likely players projected from 6 to 15th in the Draft?
Astra Inclinant, Non Necessitant
According to Kiper's Big Board 6-15 are as follows
6) Landry Jones
7) Matt Barkley
8) Jonathan Martin
9) Quinton Coples
10) Riley Reiff
11) Luke Kuechly
12) Alson Jeffery
13) Manti Te’o
14) Brandon Thompson
15) Vontaze Burfict
Kuechly also has more tackles and INT’s than Burfict and Te’o combined.
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That is an AWFUL, AWFUL list. My god.
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It really is
Coples and Jeffery haven’t done anything this year and I just don’t like Jones. He doesn’t have Decastro in his top 25 and has Cordy Glenn at 17.
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I live in Columbia, SC and go to countless Gamecock games
Cause USC started off with Marcus Lattimore running the shit out of the ball until he got hurt, then Connor Shaw (soph) comes for stephen garcia who was kicked out of school. Alshon was a monster last year, with amazing hands and excellent routes.
Kinda like DeVier Posey would be higher had he played all season instead of the last 2 games at the end of the year
I thought about that after i said "hasn't done anything"
what I should have said about Jeffery is that I have questions about him that weren’t answered this year.
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I don’t see any pure game changers. This has to change some, right?
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by EagleGreeninMD on Dec 5, 2011 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
Even if Kiper's big board doesn't change
Mine will not look like that lol.
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Very good point about the INT's
Kuechly has great instincts and his athletic ability is not being appreciated. Everyone seems to think the guy is unathletic from what I’ve read. He gets to the ball all the time and you don’t get INT’s not being in the right place. He’d a disaplined tackling machine……………something this team could really use!!!
Last I checked...
Keuchely was sitting right there at 12th overall, but it’s been a while. Was only looking at backers too, so I don’t have everyone else. For what it’s worth, I do like Hightower too, but I’m biased.
Couldnt disagree with you more.
We arent the Redskins who still are years away from contending and is desperate for talent across the board. Believe it or not, the Eagles are still a very talented team that has plenty of talent across both lines, a group of CBs others would kill for, and an explosive offense (with or without desean). I truly believe we are one good playmaking MLB and one strong safety away from being right behind (if not with) the Packers.
I am not saying Keuchly/Teo/Burfict at all costs but a player would really, REALLY have to blow me away at any other position.
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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Dec 5, 2011 2:28 PM EST reply actions
I was always a fan of Burfict more
but I’m officially convinced for Kuechly. That list is extremely impressive. Although, if we got burfict, kuechly or te’o I would complain about any of them
Lol why would this even matter...
The Eagles would probably end up drafting some “high motor” kicker and put him at LT or something instead of using him properly.
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by VRFC8 on Dec 5, 2011 2:54 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Anyone who would seriously compare Luke Kuechly to Matt McCoy is blind.
This is a guy who led the nation in tackles and was named the top LB in the country. He’s rated amongst the top 15 players likely to come out next year by almost every analyst.
How much of that was true of Matt McCoy?
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thank you for that. That actually made me laugh.
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Matt McCoy – 3 years of college football – 270 tackles.
Luke Kuechly – also 3 years of college football – 516 tackles.
by JimmyK on Dec 5, 2011 3:05 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Exactly
Luke is better all around then McCoy. Just the fact that VRFC8 compares the too should tell you something. The only thing they have in common is skin color. After that it’s completely different.
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I feel like all the picks that seem to make sense for the Eagles never happen lately (esp. in the 1st round). That being said, it’s safe to say Luke Kuechly won’t be an Eagle.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Dec 5, 2011 3:03 PM EST reply actions
till wouldnt spend a top 15 pick on him
Out of the 1st round MLB’s though he and Te’o would be the pick for me. Kuechly is the safer pick of the 1st round MLB’s, so if he ends up with Eagle Wings after the first day of the draft, I wouldn’t be mad (Unless Juan Castillo is his coach).
ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th
Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT
Shady is the best RB in the NFL not AP
he is the real deal, that dude scares me to death more than anyone on that team besides Vick with time to throw the ball
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by ChiaCrack on Nov 5, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
*Still
ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th
Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT
Shady is the best RB in the NFL not AP
he is the real deal, that dude scares me to death more than anyone on that team besides Vick with time to throw the ball
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by ChiaCrack on Nov 5, 2011 7:50 AM PDT
I like this guy alot, and he would be my first pick
even though I love VB, one question for anyone that knows BC, how are there d tackles? It seems so much can be learned about a MLB by looking at whose in front of them.
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I went to Arizona state and havent missed a home game in a long time, and trust me, Vontaze Burfict has ‘bust’ written all over him. ignore the national coverage, the guy wasnt even named all PAC12 this year, and that is coaches voting.
Doesn't it sound weird to say "PAC 12" ?
Kinda makes it sound like we’re the redheaded step child of the big 12.
by Saidrick on Dec 5, 2011 4:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
what makes plays? Speed or instincts
We’ve seen speed already this year go flying by the guy with the ball and miss tackles
And... Butkus!
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Dec 5, 2011 4:31 PM EST reply actions
Imagine
If we could trade for Beason, or even D’qwell Jackson… Really athletic LB’s..
(Trade Samuel, Babin for picks and trade those picks)
And we draft Kuechly.. our LBs could be
WLB: Rolle/Chaney
MLB: Kuechly
SLB: Beason/Jackson
That is so much speed and athleticism on the outside, with a tackling machine on the inside
DRC and NA play press coverage on the outside and our front 9 is stacked with
Cole, Jenkins, Patterson/Dixon/Landri, Graham
Rolle/Chaney, Kuechly, Beason/Jackson
NA, DRC
WITH STEVE SPAGS AS OUR DC
AND NORV TURNER AS OUR OC (if he has a stud RB, easily one of the best coordinators out there)
Of course this would never happen, unless we play madden
Just wait until December..
Do we keep our Safeties?
That’s not a bad idea.
by EaglesForever20 on Dec 6, 2011 8:57 AM EST up reply actions
Iv watched alot of both Kuechly and Te’o and both look awesome. Tackling and instincts are both at a premium but from what if seen there are a few things that Te’o is much better at. Te’o gets off of blocks as good as anyone iv ever seen, Kuechly can get swallowed up by bigger line man. Also Te’o is really good in both zone and man coverage. Both guys a are great I do think that Te’o will have an easier time adapting to the bigger linemen and pass heavy NFL.
by Mycatsnameismilk on Dec 5, 2011 6:38 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I'm not surprised
I’m not even surprised that he won by that much. The boy is too good. His game against the Cane’s was statement. His stats are ridiculous, his instincts are second to none, he’s a great leader.
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by macjack09 on Dec 5, 2011 7:07 PM EST via mobile reply actions
If the eagles play their cards right, we could very well end up with two incredibly talented LB's
It especially makes sense if the FO continues to think Chaney could play the SAM.
We could end up with a Kuechly/Teo/Burfict and Hightower/Brown.
With two top tier LB’s, we could have a Linebacking core that would resemble Urlacher and Briggs.
i'm hoping we do something like this
we have so many good picks this year with such a deeo draft, anything is possible. we could end up with 2 of the 3 between Kuechly/Teo/Burfict but thats a little bit of a stretch
by phillyfan330 on Dec 5, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
I'm still stuck on the fact he's got 191 tackles in just 12 games
Is there anyone else on defense?
Avg 15 tackles a game… Insane.
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15.9- almost 16 tackles a game
The purest example of a defensive playmaker there is.
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by Ralf E Chubbs on Dec 6, 2011 7:53 AM EST up reply actions
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