This Just In: NFC East Is Terrible
by JasonB on Dec 5, 2011 10:26 AM EST
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You could make a pretty good argument that the East is the worst division in the NFC. While our division doesn't have as many bad teams as, say, the NFC West has... the West has a real contender in it, while the NFC East does not. That fact was made pretty obvious yesterday by the Cowboys and Giants.
The Cowboys lost embarrassingly in overtime to the Cardinals, thanks to an overtime TD pass from Kevin Kolb. But the real killer moment came when Jason Garrett iced his own kicker at the end of regulation. Rookie Dan Bailey hit what should have been a game winning 48 yard field goal, but his coach had called a timeout at the last moment. When Bailey tried the re-kick, he predictably missed. It really was an awful loss from Dallas, whose road to the playoffs and NFC East title looked so easy. Actually, with the Giants loss yesterday, Dallas has no teams with a winning record on it's second half schedule. But they can't even go to Arizona and get a win? Does anyone think this team wouldn't get blown out by the Saints or Packers in the playoffs?
As for the Giants, their players and fans can tell themselves "there's no such thing as a moral victory but... this was a moral victory" all they like. The fact is that they lost to the Packers yesterday at home and have now dropped four straight. It's December now and they've lost four straight, how often does that bode well for a teams' playoff chances? The Giants are now .500, mired in a total free-fall, but are actually still in the playoff hunt despite that fact they have no right to be. With Dallas, Detroit, Chicago & Atlanta all losing, the Giants are still within striking distance. Of course, they will need to eventually win a game.
We all laughed at the NFC West when the Seahawks made the playoffs at 8-8 7-9. That's a real possibility in the NFC East this year. And it becomes even more salt in the wounds of Eagles fans. Had this team been even ok, they'd be in the thick of the playoff hunt. But they're not even ok. They're in the last place in the worst division in the NFC, if not the entire league.
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Jeez. Watching this division unfold the way it has makes me feel so old. Just two years ago we were known as the toughest division in the NFL. As a collective whole the entire NFC East has become a joke. It’s always nice to poke fun at Cowboys,Giants and heck even the Redskins failures but this is just disappointing. Especially since we’re at the bottom looking up. Oh how times have changed.
Despite all the hand wringing by commentators about how that should never have been allowed to happen
They went out and took it to the Saints. That says something.
This is what I mentioned yesterday
Even if we were HALF DECENT we would be in the playoffs, but we suck. So fuck it
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Why doesn't the fan confidence poll let me vote Zero?
“10” is definitely not a low enough number for me
What makes this season all the more frustrating
It seemed a sure fire lock that 10 wins would clinch this division before the year and I thought the Eagles would be that team (10-6).
Who cares about the division
This “group of guys” would get destroyed in the playoffs….regardless….
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Dec 5, 2011 11:17 AM EST reply actions
It's laughable at this point
I’m so far past the point of even caring. This must be what Lolskins fans feel like all the time. This is the most disappointed I’ve ever been in an Eagles team. The front office went out and made moves but they half-assed it and they are paying the price. I’m gonna stop now before I go on a rant….*#$@%!!!!
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Wait, wait, wait.
Lets play pretend here. Say we win out. Stop laughing. And everyone else loses out. Wouldn’t we still make the playoffs? Not that I expect that to happen. But…
and
We actually have the best record within the division. While that on its own doesn’t mean much in terms of playoffs if you lose every other game, I am predicting that will be a big talking point when people are trying to cope with AR getting another year to coach…
by ChillBillinChina on Dec 5, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Hahaha
You’re missing an important part of the equation….Eagles winning games….
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Dec 5, 2011 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
omg
Hahahahaha…. “so you’re saying there’s a chance?!?”
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by jeffthenry on Dec 5, 2011 3:29 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
if we did win out, we’d need the giants and cowboys to split and they’d each have to lose another game. This isn’t that unfathomable(except the part about us winning out). That would put everyone at 8-8 and us with a 5-1 division record
I was saying this last week with 9-7 being a real possibility
Had the Eagles won on Thursday, I would be “all-in” today on the playoff train. I think the NFC East winner will be 9-7 and it could’ve been us. But no, we just shit away our chances by losing to the Seahawks. 8-8 is the longest of longshots.
Had the Eagles won on Thursday night
then yesterday would’ve been the “perfect” day for us with the Cowboys, Giants, Bears, Falcons, Lions, and Redskins all losing. You couldn’t have drawn it up any better.
But no, the Eagles refuse to even be okay.
Manning scored 35 points against the Packers, and drove them down the field to late in the game for a touchdown to tie the game. They lost hard fought game against a really good team. Its not like they lost against a bad team or got their asses handed to them by a really good team.
..but they lost….
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Dec 5, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
The Packers don’t have the greatest of defenses, and besides, many shitty teams wake up against undefeated teams. Its just the nature of the game. The Giants still suck.
Eagles: Suck But still. #KeepAndyReid
Flyers: On a nice roll
Phillies: Sigh
This year whatever happens the NFC East has looked awful
I don’t think any of the four teams can look at any other and say they suck
As a division, we totally suck this year
It’s going to be awhile before I ever talk trash about the any other NFC division.
No matter how bad my Giants did, in the past I could as least talk trash about how easy other teams divisions were compared to NFC East – not the case this year.
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But...
They did lose and it was their fourth straight. That is a .500 team. Nothing changes that. Plus, if you want examples of the Giants getting their ass handed to them, go back to last week when the Saints did it. If you want examples of them losing to bad teams, look at the Eagles or Seahawks games.
They are what they are.
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If we can’t beat the Cardinals or the Seahawks coming off a loss with our backs against the wall, we shouldn’t be thinking about the playoffs in the first place.
It’s funny how can go 5-1 in the division and still not make the playoffs.
Oakland
went 6-0 in their division and didn’t make the playoffs last year
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by CarolinaGreen on Dec 5, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
Even if we go 4-0 and everything goes right
We would be playing the Saints in the playoffs. I really don’t feel like seeing Drew Brees tear up our secondary
I Miss BDAWK
Andy Reid should stay one more year
Shady McCoy is Dirty
Sheesh
I can’t even imagine what Sproles would do to us…smh
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by CarolinaGreen on Dec 5, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Seahawks fans
said the same thing last year. I’m not saying, I’m just sayin…
by ChillBillinChina on Dec 5, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
We suck, but so does everybody else.
Vindication.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
by KByars on Dec 5, 2011 12:01 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
haha
nice
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by CarolinaGreen on Dec 5, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe I'm not being truthful but
I really don’t want to make the play offs 7-9
if we can’t finish with a winning record then I want no part of it…..
P.S. Let me add this before you all call “B.S” on me
I would be ok making the playoffs with a losing record if we went to the Superblow but that’s the only exception where I wouldn’t be embarrassed.
PPS. Or if no other team in the conference has a better record then so be it
"It is super important to come out right away and stuff it down people's throats and make them respect the run. We have Hakeem and Mario and Cruz and then they can get off as well. It starts with the running game always."
- BJacobs
I get your point
And I tend to agree that it’s all about winning the Super Bowl. But damn it is fun to watch your team in January in a do or die playoff game. And you should know as good as anybody that once you’re in the playoffs anything can happen. If you ask me what I’d want right now for the Eagles, either make the playoffs at 8-8 or lose out and get a great draft pick, I’d choose make the playoffs 9 out of 10 times.
True
Plus, you get a home playoff game to boot. And when you look at the NFC, there’s no reason why the Giants or Cowboys (at 8-8 or 7-9) still couldn’t beat Atlanta or even Detroit. They would both get slaughtered in NO or BG the next round, but at least they were in with a shot.
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slaughtered eh
I’ve been reading all your comments today…. you’re more brutal then other times JasonB
I can’t say I blame you
"It is super important to come out right away and stuff it down people's throats and make them respect the run. We have Hakeem and Mario and Cruz and then they can get off as well. It starts with the running game always."
- BJacobs
Well, the Giants were already slaughtered by the Saints… So obviously that’s not a stretch.
And while they were obviously much more competitive with the Packers, if your boys can’t beat the Pack at home, what do you think will happen if you go up to Lambeau?
I don’t think it’s really a very controversial thing to say. Both the Pack and Saints will be better than TD favorites against either Dallas or NYG at home in the playoffs.
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But again it goes back to the old saying
“Any given Sunday.” The 2007 Giants proved that points spreads are meaningless. If you told me right now I could pick 1 of the following options:
1. Eagles win the East at 8-8, win the first round and get a shot at redemption against the Packers. Or…
2. Eagles lose out, get a top 6 pick and draft our next franchise QB (Barkley or RGIII; which is my ideal scenario at the moment)
… then I’d pick number 1 and ask what I have to pay to see it happen. I don’t care how disgracefully terrible we look right now, I’d love to just get that “chance,” as small as it might be.
The Eagles were ok……then Vick and Maclin got hurt.
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True
And that’s why I don’t think ending the season 4-0 is that much of a stretch now that Vick and Maclin are back. The only problem is it’ll be too little too late. It won’t do much for us considering it’s unlikely both the Giants and Cowboys finish at 8-8.
AND!
I’ve been saying since the first of the season, NFC done lost its Beef. Tuffest to weakest in NFC…South,North,East, and West. If Carolina would have had the two linebackers in the middle of the field Davis and Beason I could see them steeling about 3 to 4 more games during the season.. look for those two Florida QBs to clash for yrs to come Tebow vs Newton superbowl’s Young Guns…
by pragit on Dec 5, 2011 9:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Cant even talk crap about Dallas Vs AZ
We lost to the Cards with a back up QB at home..end of story. That game was the clear indicator of what the 2011 Eagles are. No chemistry no heart just big dudes with big contracts in Eagles garb
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