2012 Eagles Mock Draft
by JasonB on Dec 19, 2011 7:01 PM EST
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Since so many of you have been posting mock offseasons over in the fanposts, I figured there were would probably some interest in a mock draft. Our pal Dan Kadar from Mocking The Draft did a brand new two round mock today and the Eagles have three picks in those first two rounds. Here's a link to his full mock, but here are his picks for the Eagles.
11. Philadelphia Eagles - Luke Kuechly, MLB, Boston College
It's time to buck some trends. The Eagles are a team that rarely takes linebackers this early in the draft, but Kuechly needs to be the exception. If the Eagles want their defense to succeed, they need a smart, sure tackler like Kuechly. He's the kind of player who could make everyone else around him look better by masking their deficiencies.
43. Philadelphia Eagles - Robert Lester, FS, Alabama
The Eagles continue to have safety issues after unsuccessfully trying to replace Brian Dawkins.
45. Philadelphia Eagles (from Arizona Cardinals) - Brandon Thompson, DT, Clemson
After linebacker, the Eagles' defense has suffered this season because of poor play from the defensive tackles. Thompson would be a steal at this point and start immediately for Philadelphia.
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I dont think
our defensive tackles are a huge need for us. We have one good run-stopper on IR (Dixon) and have two other good ones in Landri ( who is underrated) and Jenkins. Our needs are linebackers and safety.
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Kuechly should be an automatic at this point…..but it’s Reid and he may try to build on Chaney even more.
I’m not a big fan of Allen. I realize he’s still recovering from his injury, but in only 1 game he has been spectacular and I think he is just too soft. He is inconsistent in coverage and I just don’t know what to think of him. Worse than Allen is Coleman’s inconsistencies. One game he looks like a monster, the other he looks like he doesn’t deserve to wear an NFL uniform. I would like to see him finally get some consistency because he seems like the leader type. But he’s got to stop. I’m reluctant to go with safety so early because I really do wanna see what Jarrett can do. Plus, it wouldn’t exactly look good to have 3 safeties drafted in the second round and have no place to put them all.
I agree with FloridaEagle. Dixon was great against the run, Landri looks like quite a pick up and he could be Jenkins’ eventual heir, and Jenkins himself is someone I definitely want to bring back because he plays with an edge and is another one of the leaders on that defense.
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No go for Kuechly
If you look at the scouting reports for Kuechly it is that he is an instinctive LB but kinda smallish and lacks elite explosiveness and athleticism. Now if you look at the great MLBs or ILBs they have two things in common, athleticism and explosiveness and most have a little nasty in them as far as personality, that is your Ray Lewis, Brian Urlacher, and Patrick Willis type. I think that is what I think we need is that type of personality and for me that is Vontaze Burflict, the kid is an athletic, explosive and nasty player and he is an ideal size 6’3 252 and that is what we definitely need
by afghan_Phils_phan on Dec 19, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Have you seen him play in a game or 2?
He’s ridiculous.
Being an Eagles fan is like being friend-zoned by the girl you love
Burfict isn’t even a first rounder at this point. Depending on his interviews he might slip out of the first few rounds all together. He was just benched for personal fouls and undisciplined play and when his coach tried to put him back in the game he refused to play. No thanks.
by times_yours on Dec 19, 2011 8:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yeah you haven't been around very long
Go look at the scouting reports around this site for Vontaze Burfict and Luke Kuechly.
Oh and I’ve watched both of them play all season. Vontaze may not go in the first round at all after his play this season.
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Read these my friend
Vontaze Burfict:
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2011/10/21/2503551/vontaze-burfict-first-hand
Luke Kuechly:
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2011/12/12/2629832/the-case-for-luke-kuechly
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He isn't small.
He is right in line with plenty other great linebackers currently in the NFL (not to mention he will likely add weight before the combine) and he tackles everything. We need tackling and discipline from the linebacker position. Kuechly brings both of those things plus loads of talent. Burfict brings plenty talent, but no discipline and no good form. I think you need to read up on these guys a bit more because it seems you only have a surface reading of them. The two posts macjack linked too in reply to you are both pretty great.
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by alcatraz0109 on Dec 19, 2011 7:20 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Everybody doesn’t want Kuechly. You can easily replaced that with Burfict because there are a good amount of people on this site who want Burfict as well.
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by FloridaEagle on Dec 19, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
The Burfict phase has come and gone. It’s clear he’s not the top-10 prospect he was in August and September. And rightfully so.
The fact that Lawlor endorses Kuechly as well makes him a slam dunk to be this year’s Eagles mock draft favorite.
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by alcatraz0109 on Dec 19, 2011 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
He didn't say Lawlor was right
He said the fact he liked him made it likely he’d be the fan favorite.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
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by no1pipelayer on Dec 19, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Burfict isn’t even a first rounder at this point.
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I wasn’t aware of that until last week. Makes me even more leery of him.
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by alcatraz0109 on Dec 19, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
I wasnt implying that I want Burfict. I thought you were trying to state that Kuechley was like Moreno and Smith, players that we wanted to draft but were passed up on.
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by FloridaEagle on Dec 19, 2011 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
Our DTs have underperformed? I don’t see that.
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by Euler.is.a.Pimp on Dec 19, 2011 7:42 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
That comment stood out to me too
Mock drafts, IMO, always lose credibility when they make up a need to justify a pick. Just say the guy is a steal. Saying the Eagles DTs have played poorly shows a real lack of understanding of the situation going forward.
Three DTs (Jenkins, Patt and Landri) have played well. Dixon will likely earn a roster spot if he’s healthy next year. Ced Thornton already made the team once. Trevor Laws is likely on his way out due to lack of impact.
DT seems to me one of the last places they should use a pick unless he’s BPA or they just love a guy.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
Agreed
I actually thought our DTs have played fairly well. Especially with adjusting to the new system.
D Tackle is an important position but I can’t imagine Reid and the FO are that disappointed with their play that they would use a 2nd Rd pick (especially the one from Arizona).
Dixon should be healthy next year too. Although he was one that didn’t seem to thrive in Washburn’s system.
by PeoplesChamp84 on Dec 19, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
safety clearly isnt our strong point
but weve drafted them in the 2nd round the last 2 years…..i dunno i think we should focus on other needs. i.e. wide reciever and maybe another linebacker. the FA class is also full of wide recievers so maybe we hit the market for one
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What I would do:
1st: Keuchely
2nd: Sanu (assuming that Desean is gone)
2nd: Another LB maybe Ronell Lewis
I really don’t see why we need to draft another safety. We should just let Allen/Coleman/Jarrett develop. Also, I’m very happy with our DTs and our dline as a whole I don’t know why we would take a dt that early.
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by Clint Eastwood on Dec 19, 2011 7:56 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Sanu’s staying in school
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by philiafan14364 on Dec 19, 2011 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Sanu
Is returning to school
http://www.metro.us/newyork/Sports/article/1049169—source-mohamed-sanu-to-return-to-rutgers
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Really?
We couldn’t trade up three picks ( according to the mock) to grab burfict. Now that would be a sweet first two picks.
by Saidrick on Dec 19, 2011 8:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Too early yet.
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the day we only score 3 points with this offense, is the day ill give everyone a dollar haha
by bleedgreen89 on Sep 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
if jackson is gone
1. Alshon jeffrey
2. Donte hightower
3. Ronnell lewis
by con-vick on Dec 19, 2011 8:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Monstrous draft. I don't know if Brandon Thompson falls that far...but yeah, good stuff.
Don’t agree with Dan though about the safety rankings….Mark Barron is heads and shoulders above his mate, Lester. Pairing him up with Nate Allen should work.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 8:25 PM EST reply actions
The fact you consider Nate Allen's job safe
undermines the rest of your post. I know you’re a Giants fan but you must have seen Nate play this year.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
I didn't mean to come off dickish
I just think he’s one of the great disappointments of the year.
Going forward we have Coleman, who is solid but we kind of know his ceiling, Allen who is all over the board but who we loved as a rookie, and Jarrett, who we have no idea about but was a late 2nd rounder.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
I'm well aware of how terrible he has been. I'm of the opinion that he was asked to do too much
and his tackling form is terrible. Mark Barron is a more in the box type safety with less range than Allen, but much better instincts and is a great tackler…and probably more importantly, has been noted as a team leader. Having Barron there will probably allow Allen to stay further back, away from contact and use his range as a true FS to try and ballhawk instead of trying to make too many plays.
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by BigBlueIntervention on Dec 19, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think Allen was asked to do too much
If anything I think the case could be made that Coleman might have been asked to do more. They were interchanging him at both safety spots at one point, then putting him closer to the line of scrimmage to play in the box, then made him play deep, then put him in man.
Allen’s task has been relatively consistent throughout the year.
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Assuming Jackson isn't here...
1. Luke Kuechly, ILB, Boston College
2. Ronnell Lewis, OLB, Oklahoma (1st 2nd rounder)
3. Reuben Randle, WR, LSU (2nd 2nd rounder)
I like this. But too early to tell. I guess thats why we call it a ‘mock draft’…. How many WRs are going to be a FA this year? Havent looked, anyone chime in on this?
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Dwayne Bowe, Colston, Stevie Johnson, Mike Wallace. Just off the top of my head there’s probably more.
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by Clint Eastwood on Dec 20, 2011 7:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
And no way
Steelers let go of Mike Wallace
by Mike Will is DoubleDown on Dec 20, 2011 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Tough to give too much credibility to someone who says that “the Eagles’ defense has suffered this season because of poor play from the defensive tackles.”
With that said, I could see AR investing a high pick on a DT (as long he’s undersized and has a high motor). Jenkins is a stud, but he’s getting old. Ditto Patterson. Landri is an excellent backup. Hopefully Dixon will be back next year, but you can’t count on him. And Laws should be cut. That leaves room for a new DT prospect to add depth and step in as a starter in a couple of years.
by Clyde Simmons 96 on Dec 19, 2011 9:25 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Was making the same comment as you at the exact same time
higher up in response to someone else. Agree.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
Personally I'd prefer one, maybe two LBs ...
… I think the cupboard is that bare. We’ve got guys that can play complimentary roles but no studs. Could use one or two.
DeSean’s status affects what we do. But assuming he’s back, I think you have to look at potentially taking Vick’s successor with top pick, given that we don’t expect to be picking this high anytime again soon. Kafka might be the guy but it’s hard to know that now.
Given the number of picks we’ve invested in S lately, and the amount of youth and potential still there, I think LB is the only outright need.
After that you could make a case for a lot of things — Another RB, another T.
If DeSean is back, avoid WR. DE and DT are fine. C is fine even though JamJax is gone. CB seems to be a mix of experience and youth even with Asante gone.
Roster really isn’t ultra needy except for LB and S. So I see a lot of BPA ahead, or perhaps burning a pick on a QB or a guy we don’t need right away.
I just hope they use the damn picks for once.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
by D3Keith on Dec 19, 2011 9:54 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I'd be for that as well
Go LB early and often. Get that hole filled for the next 5 years.
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Playoffs or not, I doubt Eagles are going to be drafting at #11 anymore. More like 15-17. That’s the problem with early mock draft; you don’t know where teams are going to pick, what players that will come in/leave, and you don’t know who is even going to enter the draft.
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RE:Too early to care
It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.
the day we only score 3 points with this offense, is the day ill give everyone a dollar haha
by bleedgreen89 on Sep 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
by JJeaglerooter on Dec 19, 2011 11:10 PM EST up reply actions
11th pick?
Jason I think you need to rework it knowing we ill not draft until 18-24
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Juan Castillo switching from the offensive line coach to Defensive coordinator is soooo dumb it might just work.
Our defense will not be a top 10 defense this year.
by MightyJoeBanner on Dec 19, 2011 10:08 PM EST reply actions
Agreed...
Its called mock for a reason. Hypothetical. I love all the different scenarios but you cant hate on JasonB.
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24 is playoffs right?
If we win the division as the worst division inner that would be 24…..I think:)
But I gave up on routing for them this season. When I route for them they suck so I am doing the anti jinx.
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Juan Castillo switching from the offensive line coach to Defensive coordinator is soooo dumb it might just work.
Our defense will not be a top 10 defense this year.
by MightyJoeBanner on Dec 20, 2011 7:11 AM EST up reply actions
Changes
Trade up for burfict and take Barron with the second pick.
by eagles0133 on Dec 19, 2011 11:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I just cant see the fascination with Burfict
People are so enamored with his athletic ability that they tend to overlook his faults. He misses tackles on a consistent basis while his instincts are subpar at best. Not to mention attitude issues that most people know about. I think he also been demoted to second string this year as a result of his poor play. Burfict is the last person who should be in an Eagles uniform
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by FloridaEagle on Dec 19, 2011 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
As soon as he said "trade up" for Burfict
I just laughed. That told me all that I needed to know.
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Changes
Trade up for burfict and take Barron with the second pick.
by eagles0133 on Dec 19, 2011 11:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The Eagles could probably get Burfict without moving at all. I bet they might even be able to drop a little bit in the 2nd round.
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by alcatraz0109 on Dec 19, 2011 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
Luke Kuechly is exactly the LB we need behind the wide nine!
1. b/c we need a MLB who will be in the right place at the right time more than one who can recover when in the wrong spot.
2. b/c we need a MLB who can cover the deficiencies of the wide nine gaps.
3. b/c we need a QB of the defense to make the rest of the team play better with his ability to read the offense (film study + instinct)
4. b/c Kuechly has 532 tackles in 3 years! Thats more than the career totals for Teo and Burfict combined! over the last 3 years (520); and has more than Teo and Hightower combined (529) over the last four! Kuechly almost has as many career solo tackles as all 3 combined! And he has more than twice as many interceptions as all 3 combined. Burfict, Teo and Hightower have never scored a TD in their careers BUT Luke Kuechly has – TWICE!
He’s not the MLB to pressure the QB. He’s the MLB you draft to pressure the offensive coordinator, because Luke Kuechly controls the 2nd level.
Colt Brennan
broke numerous NCAA records at Hawaii. He should of be the 1st pick overall based on your reason #4 to pick Keuchly. Not that I disagree with taking Keuchly first. But college stats should only be a small portion of the reason you draft someone
by Mike Will is DoubleDown on Dec 20, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Hahaha
Tackles are the WORST college stat to follow. I hope you realize Casey Matthews had more tackles in college than burfict and te’o as well, and shouldn’t even be named in the same breath as them. Kuechly’s size and athleticism are a big concern. He’s better built to play the TED linebacker in a 3-4 cause then at least you can have a big MLB next to him. If the eagles were to draft him I’m sure he’d end up as an OLB within the first year…….MLB problem continues
Off topic but I was listening to NY radio and it seems like the giants
really want spags also. If he’s fired I could see the eagles/giants both fighting really hard against each other for him.
The reason being
Is they need a true MLB who can play every down. Add an OLB so I Foku and Jordan can go back to special teams or the waiver wire. That way their potential top 5 LBS could be Chaney, draft pick, draft pick, rolle, mathews. Of course, I hope they add a MLB vet in FA. Safety needs to be addressed again high in the draft because Allen is a bust and Coleman is avg at best.
I don’t really see a need to use any of the top 3 picks on offense. If the Eagles make a mistake and don’t keep djack, I’d bet they try to replace him in FA.
by phillynyc on Dec 20, 2011 12:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
If we don’t get DeSean back next year I say we try first in Free agency first. We could end up with someone like Dwayne Bowe or Vincent Jackson. That we don’t have to waste a Draft pick, but if we don’t get a WR in FA we should try to draft one in the 2nd round. We need a LB more than WR. Unless someone like Blackmon falls that low. Also do you guys think we should draft a QB still? I say we get one in like 3rd or 4th
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Shady McCoy is Dirty
Marques Colston.
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He’s got his ring and maybe looking for a contract since he’s making way below what he should and could be had at the right price. I’d don’t expect him to ask for anything around $10 million per year like some people.
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I don’t really know enough about Colston to have an opinion on him. He has good stats though
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Big, physical receiver, but is surprisingly more of a vertical threat despite a lack of speed. He came out of Hofstra on Long Island as a TE prospect but he won a starting WR job and has been great since. He reminds me of Brandon Marshall (the good version). His routes aren’t quite as crisp and he’ll drop some passes, but he’s strong. He’s one of my favorite players in the league.
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Is he kinda like a stronger version of Maclin? Is he fast at all? I would love to either have a great possession receiver or a fast one. I would love Dwayne Bowe on our team
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Andy Reid should stay one more year
Shady McCoy is Dirty
No, he’s just an oversized slot receiver. I’m not sure what Anthro is talking about, Colston has zero speed and his knees are shot.
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knees are shot huh? He should fit right in!
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by thePurpleLion on Dec 20, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions
Rather have Bowe
then Stevie Johnson
by Mike Will is DoubleDown on Dec 20, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Tampa bay will grab Kuechly
Their LB core is horrendous, almost as bad as ours…
by Suck my vick, No Romo on Dec 20, 2011 2:41 AM EST via mobile reply actions
And where is Justin Blackmon in his mock? Id say hes the best WR in the draft
by Suck my vick, No Romo on Dec 20, 2011 2:49 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
They’ve got Mason Foster. They’ll take an OLB before they take an ILB.
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Don't be too quick to say that
Word is they would prefer to put Mason on the outside so an ILB isn’t out of the question for them.
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I live in Tampa
Morris loves Mason in the middle. BUT…if Raheem isnt back then that could change. Tampa needs WR, CB, OLB and RT before they need a MLB
by Mike Will is DoubleDown on Dec 20, 2011 2:17 PM EST up reply actions
I’d really like to see us go linebacker with the first pick. Only exception would be if a franchise type QB falls in our lap take him. I am happy with Vick but question his durability. I wonder if we can get more than 2 or 3 more solid years out of him (even solid with him means missing several games).
2nd round I say take best defensive players available. Hopefully that is in the backfield since I am pretty happy with our line.
If we lose Jackson and / or Samuel we should look to draft for depth at those positions but I don’t see a need for us to do it early.
I would not be opposed to going for an offensive lineman or two in the mid rounds.
A lot of this will depend on where we draft, and what we do in free agency. I’d really like to see a quiet free agency period for us, maybe bring in some role players for depth, and focus on the draft.
Go Eagles!
I see people keep saying that we drafted two second rd’ers for the safety position, and so they probably wont do it again. What kind of logic is that?? IF there is a good talent available in the second round, I say go for it as it IS our second worst position on the team right now.
Also, PLEASE RESIGN DeSean Jackson!!
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Agreed dude resign Djax
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by TheBeast3655 on Dec 21, 2011 2:51 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
If RG3 or Barkley fall to us I could see the eagles taking them, but I don’t think either of them get out of the top 10. There is a good chance we don’t resign both Asante and d jax , I could see the eagles using a high pick to replace them, possibly our first rounder depending on who falls. Obviously MLB is a position of need and I think there are 3 guys who come in and start rite away in Kuechly , Teo and Hightower. I think all 3 of these guys are gonna be really good for years to come but per eyeball test I favor Teo. I wouldn’t mind taking any of these guys with our first pick. I have no clue what to think about the safeties currently on the roster but I don’t think a rookie can come in and be an immediate impact. There aren’t many options as far as free agency go’s so if Allen, Jarrett and Coleman don’t step it up we could be hurting at the position.
by Mycatsnameismilk on Dec 20, 2011 10:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Scary pick from Clemson
After watching Clemson and West V….i dont want anybody from that crap-ass D.
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