Bears 30, Eagles 24: They Are Who We Thought They Were
by JasonB on Nov 8, 2011 12:17 AM EST
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The awful way the Eagles started the season mean that they dug such a hole that they couldn't afford slip ups. They couldn't afford to be that team we saw over the first five weeks. The problem is, they are the team we saw over the first five weeks. The Redskins are awful and as for the Cowboys? I dunno, I suppose that was just a perfect storm.
Because for the vast majority of this season we've seen the same thing. The offense turns the ball over in the red zone. The defense can't stop the run or the pass... Dumb penalties, mental mistakes and guys getting paid a lot of money as well as guys looking for a lot of money really not looking like they are worth it. Let's just go down the list of the problems tonight.
Red zone penalties on third down
Twice the Eagles had the Bears stopped on third down and twice they bailed them out with penalties. The first was a somewhat controversial roughing the passer call on Jason Babin where he was pushed into the QB. But that said, when you're going full bore after the passer well after he's thrown the ball, stuff like that happens. That call gets made every single time. The other was on Nnamdi Asomugha who just flat out lost Knox in one on one coverage and committed a pass interference penalty. It was somewhat similar to the back shoulder play to Dez Bryant last week, only this time around they actually threw the flag.
Awful corner play all around
The three pro bowlers were all terrible. We already highlighted the Nnamdi play, but the other two were even worse. Domonique Rodgers-Cromartie put so little effort in tackling tonight, he made Asante Samuel look like Brian Urlacher. And speaking of Samuel, where was he on that TD to Earl Bennett? Do you know, because he certainly didn't know where he was. Just awful coverage that made for an easy TD when Cutler was under pressure.
No run defense to speak of
Matt Forte was pretty awful with ball security tonight and his two fumbles led to 14 Eagles points, but when he did hold onto the ball he ran all over the Eagles D. He and Marion Barber combined for 164 yards on the ground. In both the run and the pass game, the Bears offensive line completely dominated the line of scrimmage.
Poor play from the wideouts
This was another thing we thought had been fixed, but again tonight we saw both Jeremy Maclin and DeSean Jackson look really bad dropping balls. Maclin dropped a key third down throw on a play where no defender was anywhere near him. DeSean Jackson dropped another 3rd down throw on a pass that Vick led him perfectly. DeSean had smoked the corner over the middle and if he had caught it, he might still be running. He also dropped the final pass of the game. But the most unforgivable gaffe from Jackson tonight was of course the fumble on the punt return. The Eagles had just scored off that great Brian Rolle strip/TD return and then the defense stopped the Bears on the ensuing drive. All the momentum was going their way with the game tied.... and DeSean fumbles the punt inside the 10 to give the Bears first and goal. I don't know if he's pressing trying to earn a new contract or he's not playing hard enough because of the lack of a new deal... but DeSean picked the worst time to go backwards like he has. I can't see any way the Eagles are breaking the bank given the way he's played this year and frankly, a $13 million franchise tag doesn't seem likely either.
And just to round up the dejavu recap... LeSean McCoy was easily the best Eagle on the field. He tied a franchise record with his 8th straight game with a TD. He did it in style too with this ridiculous 33 yard run.
And so you're going to hear a lot of people writing the Eagles obituary this week and with good reason. The problem isn't that you can't make the playoffs after a starting with a record of 3-5. The problem is that you can't make the playoffs when you play like this most of the time.
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Just disappointing all round...
I can’t believe I actually had my hopes up for this game. Not in a “well maybe there’s next year view” just yet, but coming awfully close to it…
by EaglesForever20 on Nov 8, 2011 12:21 AM EST reply actions
Ditka probably is too somewhere.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Nov 8, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
Da Coach
:} (chewing bubble gum and smiling while absentmindedly combing his hair back) Da Bears… 462… Da Lions …. 5
by smellmyfingers on Nov 8, 2011 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
Depending on how the Giants finish. The Giants game in two weeks will be huge.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Mikesta on Nov 8, 2011 12:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
if the cowboys and their 3rd place schedule
does not finish 10-6
the giants game in 2 weeks is meaningless
as are all of our games until next september
Seriously?
Yes, it was a shitty loss, but to say the season is lost in a joke. Go cry in the corner while the giants implode, the redskins show us that they are who we though they were, and tony homo continues his romosexual tendencies.
The eagles just don’t play well against the bears, we still have a long way to go, especially with our division. I’ll still be watching every game and cheering my balls off. We can still win this. we just have to get our heads out of our asses and play some football
the eagles just dont play well against the bears...
Or any other team for that matter. Romo will lead AMERICA’S TEAM to a sixth superbowl before he’s done, and you fags in philly can keep rooting for your all hype team led by a criminal degenerate qb. By the way, a colored quarterback has NEVER won a superbowl. So while you all call for Andy Reid and castillo and Jackson to step down, vick should be on that list too. by the way, demarco Murray>shady mccoy
A "colored quarterback" has NEVER won a superbowl ??
Does the name Doug Williams ring a bell ?? You idiot, he played in your own division (for the Redskins). Maybe your to young to remember that, or have selective memory.
by smellmyfingers on Nov 8, 2011 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
This chump does not represent Cowboys fans
He represents racist douchbags and should probably be banned immediately. And yes, Doug Williams was black.
f it - rivvid.com
+1
ya, drop the banhammer on that knucklehead before he spreads anymore of his football knowledge. Love, smellmyfingers.
by smellmyfingers on Nov 8, 2011 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, I'm not sure you noticed...
But you’re letting your bigotry slip out a little bit, there. Dipshit racist asshole.
by UnclaimedFright on Nov 9, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Eagles gotta take them one at a time
As we’ve established all year, they can beat anyone and lose to anyone.
The Giants are still catchable, sure, and we get one more h2h with them. But the Eagles have to start beating people before you can really think playoffs. 3-5 … let’s talk after they get to 5-5 or 6-5.
They had to go on a run after losing four early and couldn’t afford to blow games like tonight’s. And they did.
There’s no mystique. There’s no hope for January right now. Just beat Arizona, and then we’ll talk about New York.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
yep i can not see this team going 7-1 to get to 10 wins. we can look at the schedule if we want but this team is not good. not reliable..and just painful to watch
LeSean McCoy is the best thing to hit Philadelphia since Ben Franklin
What you said
The Eagles still haven’t been blown out, so no reason why they can’t beat any team left on its schedule.
But yeah, thinking they’d be consistent enough to win 7 of 8 is a pipe dream at this point.
They are not good, at least not yet. One at a time.
Here’s the division picture:
Giants …………………………………………………………. EaglesCowboys …………………………. Redskins.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
And yet I find them equally middling and mediocre
Draw your own picture if you don’t like mine.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
I never complain about officials
But the Babin call was trash, and the Nnamdi one I didn’t like at all either. The contact really didn’t prevent Knox from making the catch.
In any case, the Eagles can blame no one but themselves, once again. They failed to protect a lead, they got a free TD and gave it right back, etc. etc.
The Bears earned it too. Superior OL play, and they took out offense out of what we do best for the better part of three quarters.
Time to accept that this team is talented but it is not good.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
Time to accept that this team is talented but it is not good.
And who is to blame? How does this get resolved?
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Nov 8, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
Rick Reilly is the worst, “compare this situation to chess”
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Nov 8, 2011 12:24 AM EST reply actions
yeah, that annoyed me too...
you would think that an established journalist would come with something more clever than that… especially towards vick.
by awd777 on Nov 8, 2011 10:01 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I really thought we were going to gain a game on the Giants
this week, not lose one.
Gotta respect what the G-men are doing though. Playing with heart, playing disciplined when they really should be out of it.
We … we just get discombobulated.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
Giants have been getting lucky...two weeks in a row getting PI calls that saved the game for them...
the one against the Dolphins was pure BS…they never should have called that drive killer on Marshall…..and the one against NE from what I saw was ticky tack as well…..I don’t see the Giants being as good as they seem to be right now….The Eagles have more talent on paper than anyone in the division. Why its not working together correctly is hard to say…shortened offseason…too much new blood added from FA…(boys have been there done that)…
Good Luck to the 53. Stand with Honor, Play With Pride. Bring It Home
by TruBluToTheCore on Nov 8, 2011 1:03 AM EST up reply actions
Couple of kudos thrown the Giants way, I was impressed.
Then the luck comment comes out. I knew it wouldn’t take long.
Some say when you are good, and/or prepared, that creates “luck.”
The Giants are a good team right now, not great. And all the injuries may still derail the season. But year after year I have to read about how the Giants are lucky. C’mon already, it just sounds like whining.
Beat a bad ARZ team next week, and then set your sites on the Giants. They may bring out the best in your team and give you something to build on.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 30 NE 29
I agree that the Giants have been fortunate this year
Don’t forget the gift call against Arizona. But to their credit, they have cashed in on their luck. That’s what successful teams do.
I think that we’ll know more about the Giants once they play the Packers and the Saints.
Go Eagles!
Cashed in. I'll buy that.
Teams make bad mistakes, get bad breaks. It’s the ones who overcome those mistakes that are successful.
Every once in awhile though, you see your team play a nice, clean, dominating game. Those are good days.
Keep your head up over here.
"We borrowed golf from the Scottish as we borrowed whiskey. Not because it is Scottish, but because it is good." Horace Hutchinson
NYG 30 NE 29
come on
dont make it worse. I live in NYC and already have to put up with all this bullshit every day.
Let me rip apart the Eagles and pretend the giants don’t exist in peace
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Times two
I walked into the office today and there was an Eli Manning Jersey on my chair unfazed I simply sat down lol
Work needs to be done this offseason
Reasons like this I can never support Reid. Its the same things week in and out. I considered the Redskins game a fluke because we were playing Grossman and the after bye week game it was back to the original Eagles of the season. Missed tackles, bad penalties, mental mistakes, etc.
I wasn’t sold on this team after the Cowboys win and they showed me why tonight. I’m not even mad or depressed anymore. I will be if changes aren’t made. This team was not just not ready for this game, they weren’t ready for this year. Continuity or not, we have not looked like the Eagles teams of old. No resiliency, no heart, no passion, just lack all around.
And one more thing……Juan, just go away. Please. I will pay the rest of your salary myself if you do.
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"Brian Dawkins is always 100% Eagles related."--macjack09 & BGN Nation
I’m right with you. I can’t agree with the Reid apologists anymore.
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Nov 8, 2011 12:30 AM EST up reply actions
this team sucks, im done with this team for the year.
by Bleeding_Green_Eagle on Nov 8, 2011 12:25 AM EST reply actions
Ugh.
I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.
by Snax on Nov 8, 2011 12:25 AM EST reply actions 5 recs
this
Is how i felt when maclin lost his feet at the 4th and 10
by eagles4321 on Nov 8, 2011 1:00 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think my hat might be in a wall some where. I chucked that thing so hard when he slipped.
I screamed “THROW IT TO MACLIN”, two seconds later when he has less room, the throw goes to Maclin. And then he slips. I screamed “THAT THROW WAS TOO HIGH VICK, THAT WAS TOO HIGH!” and then “YOU’RE A PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE MACLIN, YOU HAVE TO KEEP YOUR BALANCE”.
And then I sulked.
The Curse of Lombardi
I AM NOT A DESEAN JACKSON FAN
-DeSean Jackson was once the great young wide receiver hope of this franchise, he has since devolved into a rich man's Todd Pinkston, otherwise known as Alligator Arms. My DeSean Jackson fan-hood was misguided.
Can anyone remember a time besides 2004 when this team felt a vibe of eliteness? What is it? It seems like we are always missing something. Is it heart, talent, coaching. Seriously someone just tell me, I want to know. We always play down to teams and for some reason I feel like this team will not ever live up to expectations.
"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins
Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity.
The 2011 Philadelphia Eagles:
"JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I WAS OUT...THEY PULL ME BACK IN"
-Michael Corleone
by immynimmy on Nov 8, 2011 12:25 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Yup
And I know what that is: Inability to close. The Eagles lose games in the red zone and on 3rd down. They are great at providing a few exciting plays, but when push comes to shove, they don’t finish.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
by tanman5 on Nov 8, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I thought we fixed this problem. This was the same issue during 2008-09.
by Bleeding_Green_Eagle on Nov 8, 2011 12:28 AM EST up reply actions
That's always been the issue
And it’s not just 3rd down and the red zone. It’s the big games. We’re always a little bit short.
Last year: drive ends with 35 seconds left.
The NFC Championship year we lose by a touchdown.
Tonight: Jackson alligator armed a pass when the offense was in a bit of a groove, Bears come back and take the lead.
We can never close.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Especially....
….in the fourth quater. I always get nervous. They could probably be up 4 touchdowns and I’d still be nervous.
I take it back to coaching
I don’t wanna be a troll, but I think Reid gets too much credit for a team that had JJ on it. Lets be honest, even if the offense was bad, the defense would always play nasty, grimy, balls to the wall defense and it would spark the team. Now……..its like its OK just to punch the bag instead of trying to break it.
This team is too fundamental if you ask me. And when you play by the book, you lose that intensity.
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"Brian Dawkins is always 100% Eagles related."--macjack09 & BGN Nation
But to me thats just leadership on the team
I agree that an elite defense will spark a team, but so will an emotional leader (Dawkins, Lewis, Brooking) To me, it’s the players on the field that are lacking the heart, not the coaching staff. I didn’t see any heart from DRC, Asante or Jarrett in tonights game.
"Get 'Em"
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look at what Wade Philips has done in Houston
they were a notoriously bad defense, and they’ve turned it around with the same shortened offseason we had. Good things can happen when you hire a guy that has a clue what he’s doing
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
by jalarsen1 on Nov 8, 2011 7:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
D-line was horrible
Bears won this game in the trenches
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
by tanman5 on Nov 8, 2011 12:25 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
eagles finish 8-8
But show enough potential that lurie gives reid one more year, no coaching changes on defensive side, no linebackers drafted
by con-vick on Nov 8, 2011 12:26 AM EST via mobile reply actions
8-8 my ass lol
that’s a huge stretch at this rate lol
by BleedinGreen116 on Nov 8, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
Reid is coach for life, get over it
However, I think the coaches on the defensive side are in serious danger.
And we’re also staring at three picks in the top 45 at this rate, including the Cardinals and our two. No way they don’t take at least one linebacker somewhere.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
It's unpossible
That’s the most glaring need on the team. They HAVE to address it.
At this point, I’m indifferent to Castillo too. I’ll take LBs, I’ll take a new DC … it’s whatever.
Strangely, there are 8 more games to play this season.
Also, Bears own us. WTF?
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
I wouldn't mind an experienced DC
But I honestly feel like Castillo is doing what he needs to do to be successful. The players just aren’t executing. Like the TD to Bennett. What the hell as Asante doing. He was like a deer in the headlights just staring at Cutler and he let the one receiver on his side run right past him. You know there is a blitz dialed up, stick on your man you piece of shit.
"Get 'Em"
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Give me a break.
Juan Castillo is not part of the solution.
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Nov 8, 2011 2:23 AM EST up reply actions
Reid consistently addresses his needs a year late
OL was the biggest need last year. No player drafted at that position.
CB was a huge need – no moves until Lindley in the 4th.
Reid always tries to fix things first with the personnel he has (Andrews / Jamaal – Hobbs / Dimitri / Hanson) and only when that doesn’t work (guess what, it never does) does he pull the trigger on the necessary moves (drafting / signing / trading for players).
French fries are really Belgian, sausages and bagels have the same amount of protein, two countries' names mean "turkey", and Santa Claus was invented by the Coca-Cola company. Is life weird or what?
Debe ser verde y volante - Πράσινο και να πετάει - It's gotta be green and it's gotta fly!
cont.
The year we lost that game to Brett Favre in GB because Reid believed anyone could field punts so he put Greg Lewis back there. Next year we draft DeSean Jackson. Then Reid realizes, “Hey maybe this drafting an actual talented WR thing really works, so he drafted Maclin.”
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I don't think Reid's the problem
sure, he has his flaws, and the hiring of Juan falls on him. But if we had a REAL defensive coordinator, things would be different. We haven’t had one since JJ.
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
but isn't that Reid's problem?
Thinks he is the smartest kid in the room sometimes.
I don’t care how often Juan talked with JJ about blitzes and breaking down protections. He had NEVER worked with a NFL defensive position group before. Never crafted an NFL defensive gameplan. Never called an NFL defense before. What lead Andy to believe that none of those things was important?
by djthekidd on Nov 8, 2011 8:44 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I've never understood this argument
when it’s used in any sports-related argument
Thinks he is the smartest kid in the room sometimes.
Isn’t that what a coach is supposed to do? Bill Walsh probably did. Tom Landry certainly did. Wouldn’t be surprised if Jim Harbaugh or Mike McCarthy or Bill Belichick did. What a vague, unprovable criticism anyway.
The problem is the losing, not the approach.
I don’t think Reid does it out of any sort of arrogance — I’m so much better than everyone else I can get by without a fullback/punt returner, etc. — which seems to be what this criticism is implying.
I think he genuinely thinks he’s doing the best thing for the team at the time he does it, and then gets awakened by the cruel world of the NFL.
There’s an argument against Reid, for repeating mistakes, sure. But I hope whoever we hire thinks he’s smarter than other coaches, and then goes out and wins a lot.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
Completely agree
This team is SO lost on defense. I can’t tell if it’s coaching or the scheme. But the first offensive play of the game sums up the season. Bears fake left and our LBS take two steps that way despite TWO pulling guards going right and the result is a 20 yd gain. On a side note, the Eagles couldn’t sack Cutler once. At this point, I may start rooting for losses now. This team is so unstable.
by phillynyc on Nov 8, 2011 12:26 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Per @IgglesBlog
This is just a soft team. They play like they think they’re good enough to out-talent people, but they aren’t. That’s on Reid.
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Nov 8, 2011 12:27 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Forgot to do this the first time
That’s on Reid.
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Nov 8, 2011 12:27 AM EST up reply actions
I say
this is on the players. This team played with heart last week, with a passion to go out and kick the crap out of the cowgirls and they did. Maybe it is on the coach to motivate and sustain that style of play but at some point you have to look at the players too and ask why aren’t they playing like they want to win.
It's not the coaches job to motivate
They have enough shit to do. Its up to the leaders of this team to motivate the rest of the team. I don’t understand the logic behind the quote PE put up. “They (the players) play like they think they’re good enough to out-talent people” I just don’t see how that is the HC fault.
"Get 'Em"
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I'm not gunna sit here and state the obvious
I just think putting all the blame on one person is wrong. A new HC isn’t going to fix all the little mistakes on the field committed by the players.
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Then what do you think will fix the mistakes?
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Nov 8, 2011 3:15 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know if he's pressing trying to earn a new contract or he's not playing hard enough because of the lack of a new deal...
1O is playing like shit because he has no financial security nxt yr. His lack of concentration on the field is painfully obvious. I would like to have him back nxt yr. I mean even Mac is dropping wide open passes.
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by Dunta Is A PUNK on Nov 8, 2011 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
Well first of all, it’s his job to coach them up and teach them solid fundamentals. That is something he and his staff have clearly failed to do, especially on the defensive side of the ball. Second, they’re the guys putting the people on this field, if so-and-so is jogging around and playing flag football (DRC), sit his ass on the bench and put a guy who actually tries out there. And he is a huge part of the personnel department, he has acquired all these talented players but at the same time he doesn’t look into the mentality of said players, they’re all selfish and soft at their core (except for Cole, Jenkins, Nnamdi, McCoy and the OL).
The problem with this team: Too many chiefs and not enough indians.
Too many guys think they’re amazing when they really aren’t. Talent and potential only gets you so far. And having soft, players coach Andy Reid over a tough, nose to the grinder coach isn’t helping anything. Look at Tom Coughlin’s mentality and look at how his team plays. Now look at Andy Reid’s mentality and how his team plays. One has heart and toughness, the other doesn’t.
The Curse of Lombardi
I AM NOT A DESEAN JACKSON FAN
-DeSean Jackson was once the great young wide receiver hope of this franchise, he has since devolved into a rich man's Todd Pinkston, otherwise known as Alligator Arms. My DeSean Jackson fan-hood was misguided.
by d-jackfan10 on Nov 8, 2011 4:20 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with pretty much everything you’re saying, but one thing that I think would fix it is a leader on the field. A player with HEART and TOUGHNESS. I think a tough, hard-nosed coach can be very beneficial to SOME players, but not every player responds well to a coach like Coughlin. But if you have a players coach that the players respect and a hard-nosed leader on the field? To me thats the perfect recipe.
Too many chiefs… Yeah, but no one is being a leader. At least I don’t see it, except for maybe Jenkins.
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I really believe that they bought into the “dream team” mess. They saw how the media was falling all over themselves to crown this team.
by djthekidd on Nov 8, 2011 12:31 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Meh
That was months ago. It’s not an excuse anymore.
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It plays into the “thinking they can out talent teams”.
by djthekidd on Nov 8, 2011 12:37 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Agree
We don’t intimate anyone anymore. In the good old days we would win games before even taking the field. No more. Nobody is afraid to play the Eagles.
I would love to be optimistic like some here, but let’s face it, we’ll be in more of these close games. If you were building a new team, who on the Eagles would you want to be out on the field at crunch time? I can’t think of many. Maybe Vick, McCoy. Nobody on defense.
This is were we miss guys like Dawkins, Trotter, Runyan, etc., the most. They not only were great players but they helped elevate the games of their teammates. We have no one that does that now, especially on defense.
Is that on Reid? Well, he’s in charge so I think that is the place you start.
Go Eagles!
I know Andy likes to take the blame when the Eagles lose
But I saw a lot of guys simply not make the plays they needed to make. The coaches can’t tackle or catch the ball for their players.
The monster at the end of this blog.
by grover on Nov 8, 2011 12:27 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
front 4 got no pressure….so why not dial up some blitzing?
why move back to using the wide 9 MORE when the past two weeks showed it worked when used less?
I felt like that applied more to earlier losses
like 49ers and Giants.
At this point, you can’t absolve the coaches OR the players. Bears O-Line pwned ours, their defense took us out of what we do best for 3 quarters, we got 2 crap calls, and we made a ton of bad plays.
Also we couldn’t get off the field on third down.
Accept it. They have a lot of talent, but it is not cohesive. Some of that has to fall on the coaches, and I’m a known coach defender around here. I mean just be honest with yourself
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
I'm not absolving anyone
Bet even at the end the Eagles had opportunities and were in position to make plays… and they didn’t.
The monster at the end of this blog.
Okay, well I'm saying I agreed with
“I saw a lot of guys simply not make the plays they needed to make” a lot more after Giants, 49ers and Bills.
This one I think they were outplayed and outcoached.
Sorry for phrasing it like I was coming at you. Merely trying to say “blame the players more than the coaches” doesn’t apply to this L to me as much as earlier ones.
It is mind-boggling how probably 80% of the Eagles losses under Reid are close games they coulda shoulda won. 100% this season.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
They were definitely outplayed
And as much as I like to think Chaney and Rolle have potential, Briggs and Urlacher put on a clinic.
The monster at the end of this blog.
Desean Jackson is replaceable
Pathetic fumble at the end of the first half. Heard footsteps on that 2nd (or 3rd?) down pass on that final drive that went through his hands…And that final play right through his hands is just icing. Go 8-8, get a higher draft pick and get a wr to replace Jackson. Let him seek his big offer elsewhere.
Fine with this.
I could give two shits with stretching the field. Give me a receiver that can handle a freaking football over one who can “stretch the defense.”
"You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity."
Like I said
I’m not ready to give up on Jackson just because of a bad year. I don’t forget that the last 2 years (especially his second year) he was one of the most dynamic players in the NFL. I admit that he has been almost completely a non-factor this year, but I don’t think after 1 year its time to let him go. Does he deserve top WR money? No I won’t disagree with that. But I would rather play him play as an Eagle rather than against him for another team because I can think of quite a few that would love to have him around.
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"Brian Dawkins is always 100% Eagles related."--macjack09 & BGN Nation
re-sign Desean to a cap friendly deal. this year is an aberration but there should be no chance that he gets more than 4 mil a year.
by djthekidd on Nov 8, 2011 12:40 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I say do him like they did Babin and Jenkins
Give him a deal like they had with an option after the first year. If he continues his bad play, let him go with no cap hit, if he goes back to his 2nd and 3rd year forms, then we can talk.
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DeSean is always going to be boom or bust
I don’t know that game-to-game consistency will ever be his style.
I think the Eagles will be able to move the ball still if they lose him. I think we’d all rather have him back, but you know how the Eagles do … if the numbers aren’t right, they will let him walk.
Nights like tonight will make fans miss him less, but come on … we freakin’ love DJax.
I wish he had some more Steve Smith in him … 8 short catches a game. I wonder where we could get a guy like that.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
Well to be fair
Our offense isn’t exactly known for short catches. Its pretty much send Jackson down field let Maclin run underneath and send Celek up the middle.
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hoping that Dez doesn't follow that pattern and he matures into his role as a wideout....
right now he wants to just out athletic everybody…..hasn’t hit him yet that at this level its not how big/fast/talented you are its the preparation that you put into each game that makes the difference…
Good Luck to the 53. Stand with Honor, Play With Pride. Bring It Home
by TruBluToTheCore on Nov 8, 2011 1:06 AM EST up reply actions
we'd have to go 5-3 to finish 8-8
I don’t even have enough faith we could pull that off
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
Count me on board the fire Castillo wagon.
Get the eff out of here if you can’t get a scheme to shut down some of the most mediocre wideouts in the game with some of the best corners in the game. If Reid needs to go with him, then so be it. Eff all of this crap. God I fucking hate Bears fans.
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NO SACKS JUAN???
I like turtles.
by Bleediots on Nov 8, 2011 12:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
a la adam sandler and farley reading zagat's
“Dear God kill me now.”
I like turtles.
by Bleediots on Nov 8, 2011 12:29 AM EST via mobile reply actions
So.
Do the Eagles take an offensive tackle or a linebacker in the first round?
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
Also known as Ump.
Graham was our best defensive end tonight if you didn’t notice. He was the only guy who was stopping the run AND rushing the passer. Plus, he was the only one getting consistent pressure.
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I think they gave Graham so many snaps
because they were running right at Babin (like most teams have learned to do). Babin is a one trick pass rushing pony.
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
Since both of those actually make sense, they’ll draft a high-motor DT instead
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Nov 8, 2011 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
An offensive tackle wouldn’t make sense.
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Good point. Okay, throw OT in the mix too.
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Nov 8, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Brandon Thompson wouldn’t be terrible.
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LB in the 1st two rounds is what I want.
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Nov 8, 2011 12:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Burfict from AZ State would be idea.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Nov 8, 2011 12:34 AM EST up reply actions
*Ideal...
Kuechly from BC would also be solid in the middle too. I mean, Mid first round there’s a lot of good talent to be had.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Nov 8, 2011 12:35 AM EST up reply actions
ill take kuechly over burflict, but he would still be better than any linebacker we have
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Revis's Island< Nnamdi's Nation< Jimmy Smith's EGO
Revis has his Island, Nnamdi has his continent, Asante has his no fly zone, and Mr. Rogers has his neighborhood
I've seen a bit of Burfict...
He’s good too. I mean, Kuechly is just so fundamentally sound, with good athletic skills… He’s probably a better paul posluszny coming out…
OTOH Zach Brown would also be interesting too. He’s athletic, would probably complement the line very well… Lance Briggs style.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Nov 8, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
I prefer Burfict just because he’s that leader we need on this team.
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Nov 8, 2011 12:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I really think if we’re smart we could end up with both of them if we trade up for once.
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Nov 8, 2011 12:39 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
That seems pretty impossible...
I mean, you’d have to have a high first round pick, trade it for a mid round, and then trade back up into the mid round…
It’s not unheard of doing something ridiculous like that…
But it’d also be like betting the farm.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Nov 8, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
I see that 2nd round pick from Arizona being pretty valuable and I’m predicting we’ll tag and trade Jackson.
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Nov 8, 2011 12:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I've been driving this guys bandwagon all year and I just put gas in the tank tonight
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I'm a BC homer (to the point I still actually watch their games, no matter how awful they are)
This guy is so stupidly good.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Nov 8, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve said it a thousand times, he’s got to be one of the smartest defensive players I have seen. Its not a fluke that he average 16 tackles a game. The guy is in position on every play.
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No, it's not.
He’s smart. He’s athletic. He’s got a gift. He’s a real defensive MLB sort of guy.
A better paul posluszny… I’m still fascinated how i can remember how to spell his name.
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Nov 8, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
Break it down into three three-letter names
that’s how I do it.
Tui
aso
sopo
pos
lus
zny
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
God.
I couldn’t even pronounce Tuiasosopo
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Nov 8, 2011 12:56 AM EST up reply actions
In all seriousness
With Cardinals pick, they should have three of the top 50. Has to be an LB or two they like that high.
But I can’t bring myself to talk draft with 8 games left, even if the playoff train is pulling further and further out of the station.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
Give me someone who can read and react properly to a gap
and proceed to wrap their arms around the ball carried and BRING HIM TO THE GROUND WITHOUT AN EXTRA 5 YARD GAIN.
"You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity."
We have no heart. I’m not surprised we blew another lead. Also, I’m pretty sure Desean will get tagged and traded, he’s to one dimensional. At least other deep threats are tall and can catch Desean just runs really fast and returns punts. Now that I think about it he’s our Devin Hester.
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Nov 8, 2011 12:31 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Except Hester can return punts
Desean runs five yards backwards, starts upfield and gets tackled or coughs the ball up
by Matthew Krawcheck on Nov 8, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
You can make the playoffs at 3-5
But not when 4 of those losses are all to NFC contenders. The Eagles could go 10-6, but they’ll lose every tie-breaker for a playoff spot. Couple that with a red-hot Giants team with a 3 game lead and that’s the end of the season. The one thing the Eagles couldn’t do for the rest of the season was lose a conference game.
Zombies are real! Jerry Jones and Al Davis are proof! Arm yourselves!
by Jason-E on Nov 8, 2011 12:32 AM EST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
True
They definitely have next to no shot. First of all, the 7-1 is unlikely the way they play.
BUT, they really needed to pick up a game this week not drop one. Wild card is unlikely. Division they need.
So … Giants lose to 49ers, Eagles beat Cardinals, then Eagles beat NYG, and in two weeks its a one-game race with NYG playing Saints and Packers next.
There’s always a chance. Though I’m no longer sure I like the 49ers over the Giants. The G-men looked a lot better against NE than MIA.
The problem with any scenario is it involves the Eagles winning more than they lose and they haven’t been doing that.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
Asante is playing himself out of a job
he’s a ball-hawking corner who isn’t getting interception. and continually giving a 5+ yard cushion in the end zone is maddening. the coaches have to see that and correct it. if they can’t see that they need to go. if asante refuses to be coached he needs to go.
I think Asante was the best of the 3 last night though. That ONE play is inexcusable, but other than that, he had a pretty good night, whereas DRC was shredded all game and Nnamdi looked bad too.
by philiafan14364 on Nov 8, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
a contract to work at Burger King
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by BIBTD on Nov 8, 2011 12:37 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not even worthy.
McDonalds janitor.
"You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity."
Walmart greeter.
Run Shady Run to the road to victory.
by BIBTD on Nov 8, 2011 12:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
What happened to the oline that kept Vick clean last week. Receivers? Dline. Linebackers? Why did they widen the line again? More confusion in zone coverages….. DRC just let a guy go. I’m too angry to make a coherent sentence right now.
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Nov 8, 2011 12:38 AM EST reply actions
In fairness
They didn’t exactly keep Vick clean last week…Ware had 4 sacks
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
...because he was forced out
The o-line is good in the run game, but I thought the improvement in pass protection was overblown
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
He isn’t the future. I would prefer if we had gotten two draft picks for Kolb.
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I’m happy we got anything higher then a bin of footballs via trade the way Kolbs playing.
Though DRC looked TERRIBLE last night. Zero heart and ZERO effort.
Every time a Cowboy hates, an Eagle gets his wings.
by Spurs Yoda on Nov 8, 2011 11:06 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
well
we played a good team D this week… not some of the kitty carnivals from the previous few weeks and drc is shitting on everything i thought of him when we got him
by BleedinGreen116 on Nov 8, 2011 12:40 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think the o-line was a major issue tonight. Could be better for sure, but not the problem.
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Vick was constantly getting hit
And he was actually getting the ball out pretty qucikly tonight
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Vick does not make the proper adjustments consistently nor does he throw people open. He has Donovan McNabb syndrome in that he will only throw to guys once they separate. Watch Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady, they throw guys open.
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The Bears are good
at defense. Why is that so impossible to consider?
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
Lance Briggs is the reason they won the game, seriously.
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I AM NOT A DESEAN JACKSON FAN
-DeSean Jackson was once the great young wide receiver hope of this franchise, he has since devolved into a rich man's Todd Pinkston, otherwise known as Alligator Arms. My DeSean Jackson fan-hood was misguided.
what exactly is on the to do list for the offseason....
we have the talent i just dont get it
LeSean McCoy is the best thing to hit Philadelphia since Ben Franklin
A coach with some heart. Someone who is going to fire up this team. Not that dumbfuck Juan Castillo.
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Nov 8, 2011 12:40 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
lol
no way bro. Harbaugh took the SF job in large part because his family loves the bay area (he was at Stanford before that) and Capers is not going to make a lateral move
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
And Capers would need a 3-4...
To be effective… and that’s REALLY not what you have going for you…
Five foot three seems to thrive on his misery...
by awfullyquiet on Nov 8, 2011 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
so what do we do with 15+ millions in cap space next year?
My mojo so dope. BITCH!
Revis's Island< Nnamdi's Nation< Jimmy Smith's EGO
Revis has his Island, Nnamdi has his continent, Asante has his no fly zone, and Mr. Rogers has his neighborhood
Give it to Vince and let him make it rain
by TimmyGee on Nov 8, 2011 12:42 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Vincent Jackson and a 1st round LB pick
"You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity."
i wouldnt mind this
My mojo so dope. BITCH!
Revis's Island< Nnamdi's Nation< Jimmy Smith's EGO
Revis has his Island, Nnamdi has his continent, Asante has his no fly zone, and Mr. Rogers has his neighborhood
What would we want with Vincent Jackson?
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What attitude problems?
When has Jackson shown any attitude problems?
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i guess the hold out, but i dont remember him talking much about it, so yeah, no real problems
I hate new york.
by XxActionJacksonxX on Nov 8, 2011 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
Matt Forte
Said last night that he would consider holding out also so does he have attitude problems as well?
When a guy that talented plays so poorly
In a year that he’s unhappy with his contract, he’s going to come off as half-assing it. Maybe 2011 is just a down year for D-Jax, but you generally expect players to play better when a contract is on the line.
by UnclaimedFright on Nov 9, 2011 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Free agent linebackers for 2012 class is horrible
My mojo so dope. BITCH!
Revis's Island< Nnamdi's Nation< Jimmy Smith's EGO
Revis has his Island, Nnamdi has his continent, Asante has his no fly zone, and Mr. Rogers has his neighborhood
good thing we passed on tulloch
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
by tanman5 on Nov 8, 2011 12:44 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
and yet....
far superior to our current company… ironic
by BleedinGreen116 on Nov 8, 2011 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
this
My mojo so dope. BITCH!
Revis's Island< Nnamdi's Nation< Jimmy Smith's EGO
Revis has his Island, Nnamdi has his continent, Asante has his no fly zone, and Mr. Rogers has his neighborhood
sadly
i have no fuckin idea who is on that list lol… i just kno this by default
by BleedinGreen116 on Nov 8, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions
well theres curtis lofton, he's good
tulloch, hes good but after that its horrible
My mojo so dope. BITCH!
Revis's Island< Nnamdi's Nation< Jimmy Smith's EGO
Revis has his Island, Nnamdi has his continent, Asante has his no fly zone, and Mr. Rogers has his neighborhood
Good thing this draft
Is one of the strongest for the LB position in awhile
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to draft poorly again… Rolle, and Watkins are the only ones good from the 2011 draft.
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broncos got tebow last year in the 1st
we got him this year undrafted…. win
by BleedinGreen116 on Nov 8, 2011 12:52 AM EST up reply actions
It’s a bit early for that assumption no?
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Not if Reid makes the picks
Whatever he wants to do with the offense I could care less. But he should never drafted another defensive player again. That’s where he needs a consultant.
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how many times do we have to go through the same song and dance before this fat piece of shit is finally gone? Mccoy gets 16 carries? A top 3 rb in the game carries us the last two weeks, so naturally we only give him 16 carries the following week. Reid will never learn. Im so fed up with his shit he should have been gone 2 years ago with mcnabb
Marty calls the plays, not Reid.
by djthekidd on Nov 8, 2011 12:46 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
cmon now if you dont think reid has a huge input on the offense and playcalling your kidding yourself. either way though, marty is decent, but certainly nothing special. He can get axed along with reid for all i care
Agreed. Andy is marty
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If you get stuffed on first down
your forced into throwing the ball and McCoys carries are limited.
Cowboys suck.
My thoughts...
1. Get a new RT and move Todd back to LT
2. Draft at least 3 LB and put Rolle on special teams
3. Draft a new WR to replace Jackson
4. Extend McCoy.
5. Scheme better
Run Shady Run to the road to victory.
I don't think you just fix this with a few draft picks
though I’m all for loading up on LBs.
Man, we’re plenty young, I don’t want to watch us get younger. I want this damn team to start cresting.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
And what exactly do you do with Peters?
I don’t think I need to remind you he’s easily our best Olineman…
by philiafan14364 on Nov 8, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
As a Bears fan stuck in PA...
Thanks for staying classy guys. You guys played a great game, and it was back and forth most of the night. As far as thoughts about your thoughts about your team…
1. You’re being too hard on your front 4. They were actually doing a fairly decent job of getting some pressure against a line running at least a 6 man front most of the night. You can’t really hope for much more than that we’re you’re -2 on 80% of the plays.
2. Your DB were as good as they are supposed to be most of the night, but whoever is responsible for your defensive scheming needs to be on the unemployment line. I love most of our receivers, but there is no reason with the kind of talent you guys have that you shouldn’t be able to shut down three non-Megatron/Andre Johnson level receivers when we’re blocking with 6 guys.
3. McCoy is the real deal, and reminds me a lot of watching Forte run. Really great stuff.
4. I don’t care how wide open the guy was, that fake call was one of the most boneheaded moves I’ve ever seen effectively putting the game on the line counting on a punters ability to throw. Terrible.
Good luck until our teams meet again.
by Jacob Hayes on Nov 8, 2011 12:45 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Just go away...
We need alcohol right now… grab some pootang while you are at it.
Run Shady Run to the road to victory.
I like you.
But I hate 99% of Bears fans, living an hour away from Chicago.
1. No
2. Yes.
3. Yes.
4. Yes.
"You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity."
you guys outplayed us on both sides of the ball, congrats
Hat tip to you sir
by djthekidd on Nov 8, 2011 12:48 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
Same
Good reasoned analysis.
I couldn’t have said this better myself:
there is no reason with the kind of talent you guys have that you shouldn’t be able to shut down three non-Megatron/Andre Johnson level receivers when we’re blocking with 6 guys.
Hats off to:
1) The Bears O-line
2) The Bears’ tackling (I’m so jealous)
3) The third-down conversion rate.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
you are defining classy by your post here...I can agree with most of your post
1. Your tackles gave Tyron and Smith a great tape to watch in how to handle the Philly pass rush…when the pocket did collapse Cutler was able to move around and keep himself clean. Whoever is your Oline coach you need to give him a raise…if your line played as well as this every week Cutler would be unstoppable which brings us to……
2. No corner can cover a WR forever…yes Philly has some very talented DB’s but the lack of their line to generate consistent pressure left Cutler able to carve up the secondary with ease when it mattered most….
3. McCoy actually reminds me of Barry with the way he moves, his quickness, and his acceleration. Eagles are going to be paying a pretty penny when his contract is due…or maybe before if he gets a call from CJ2k…Forte is amazing himself and deserves a pay raise also….without him your offense doesn’t move….
4. the fake call was a gamble…risky yes…but Reid has never been conservative when it comes to playcalling…..just look to see how many times he has kicked an onsides kick to open the game…
well played and hope to seeya in the playoffs…
Good Luck to the 53. Stand with Honor, Play With Pride. Bring It Home
by TruBluToTheCore on Nov 8, 2011 12:55 AM EST up reply actions
Thanks sir. I despise seeing the Bears on the schedule, though—it must be some conspiracy that the Eagles have to play them every year.
I agree most on your #2, but that permeates to the #1. Castillo (which I imagine you know is a O-Line Coach converted to DC under Reid’s wondrous wisdom) did a terrible job scheming against Cutler. At the same time, why should anyone be surprised that he just isn’t any good? Did Reid honestly think Castillo was the next JJ, and he’d come in here year one and boom, the defense would be stellar?
It is awful. They needed to hire someone with real experience and a nose for defense, but at this point what do you do? Hope he gets better and keep him around? It is his first year still. Or do you just say screw letting him learn and go out and do what you should have last year and hire a real DC?
The DC has to run the defense, including the line. Juan probably has no idea what to do with Washburn’s line system—did he even know what the wide-9 was before the season? It’s just a disaster and all these new pieces at once do not equal the sum of their parts. Subtraction by addition? That seems possible.
Thank Ypu
Why the hell we went to zone coverage so many times is a mystery to me
by nyeaglesfan624 on Nov 8, 2011 4:48 AM EST up reply actions
If i see nnmandi in zone one more time….so fucking dumb. For the past 6 seasons his only job has been take out the best receiver on the other team. Period. For us to take away this skill sickens me by trying to make him into someone he’s not (woodson).
by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Nov 8, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Right now, I dont think I have enough fingers to point at this team
Whos your Daddy?
by Memstyle on Nov 8, 2011 12:46 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
If the Eagles manage to beat a good team without losing another, then maybe we can talk about “what ifs” and the playoffs again. Right now, the Eagles are in danger of doing no better than 8-8 or so, which I think fits their unstable-to-average persona.
They do lose as a team, at least. Can’t blame just one person, everyone drags their weight on the field!
I don’t know who it is, but the Eagles need to take the biggest, baddest muckalucka out there at linebacker because this defense is flat out soft. Lattimer would be preferred.
Vontaze Burfict
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by Clint Eastwood on Nov 8, 2011 1:00 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
NOOOOOOO!!!
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by d-jackfan10 on Nov 8, 2011 4:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Nay is correct.
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-DeSean Jackson was once the great young wide receiver hope of this franchise, he has since devolved into a rich man's Todd Pinkston, otherwise known as Alligator Arms. My DeSean Jackson fan-hood was misguided.
As do I, thus my saying that “nay” was the correct word choice.
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-DeSean Jackson was once the great young wide receiver hope of this franchise, he has since devolved into a rich man's Todd Pinkston, otherwise known as Alligator Arms. My DeSean Jackson fan-hood was misguided.
We have a ......
SOFT midget team…Maclin is a wuss big time.!!! The guy is scared of contact along with Djax smdh …whole philosophy n team has to go !!! Soft small nice guys !!!
The fake punt
One thing that pissed me off tonight was ESPN. The fake punt was the most egregious example.
They cut to the play halfway through because they were showing some dumb breakdown or the guys in the booth. YOU DON’T SKIP A PLAY.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
The shitty camera angles pre snap were really pissing me off too.
by philiafan14364 on Nov 8, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Vick is overrated
I wish we had an elite QB who can throw accurately downfield from the pocket. Hell I will even take Eli over Vick right now
by eaglesfan4ever on Nov 8, 2011 12:51 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Oh please. Vick is completing 67% of his passes from the pocket this season. One of the tops in the leauge.
You’re just not seeing reality.
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by JasonB on Nov 8, 2011 12:54 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
People get
stupid after a loss
Cowboys suck.
by stinkypants on Nov 8, 2011 12:55 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
I bet you my 1 dollar in the betting game that he is a fair weather fan.
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Sure he can. He has all year.
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Yeah, when your O-line is getting abuse. Todd Herremans looked like a bitch out there.
Run Shady Run to the road to victory.
Jay Cutler looked better than him today and his o-line isn’t good either
by eaglesfan4ever on Nov 8, 2011 12:59 AM EST up reply actions
Go ahead, keep ignoring facts…
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Guess what is the magic number today is?
Zero. Zero sacks on Cutler.
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And throw it to who. The receivers getting man handled at the LOS? Can we please get a WR with a pair?
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Nov 8, 2011 1:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
8th best completion percentage in football
Seriously. You’re not seeing reality.
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True
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I'm comparing him to elite QB's he can't finish drives
Flacco isn’t an elite QB but last week and this week he brought his team back
by eaglesfan4ever on Nov 8, 2011 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
So now you’re changing your problem? Since you were proved wrong on the accuracy thing, you’re going with the vague “he can’t finish drives”
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But am I wrong about "he can't finish drives"
by eaglesfan4ever on Nov 8, 2011 1:03 AM EST up reply actions
It takes more than him to finish a drive. He can’t throw, get open, and catch the ball.
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Nov 8, 2011 1:06 AM EST up reply actions
I agree
100%. But ask yourself this: Would you have completely left out mentioning that inaccurate throw on 4th and 10 if McNabb had been the qb?
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
You agree 100%?
Vick is literally one of the most accurate QBs in the NFL this year. He’s even more accurate throwing from the pocket.
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Just stop
It’s getting silly.
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I meant I agree with your statement
That Vick is very accurate in the pocket, the poster you replied to is a loony tune, etc.
The question was separate from that.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Oh gotcha.
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Agreed.
However, I’d like to see Vick actually take those 3-5 yd gains on first/second down when he’s running towards the sideline and then decides to try and make somethin more out of the play when he should just take the short gain and move on.
I feel like his decision making wasn’t as sharp as it was past 2 wks. But, he is far from the reason we lost.
by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Nov 8, 2011 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
13-year-old fan
You can tell by the teenage logic. Don’t get all fired up replying, kid is just learning the game.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
All I'm saying is Vick can't finish drives
by eaglesfan4ever on Nov 8, 2011 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
Not sure about that
Granted Eli is having a pretty good year, but he throws a lot of balls off of his back foot up for grabs. It’s frustrating how he gets away with that so often.
Go Eagles!
Julius Peppers coming in unblocked can make any QB look bad….
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Nov 8, 2011 12:55 AM EST reply actions
how can you forget to leave Peppers unblocked.....
in tape review its going to go…“and on this play here someone left one of the best defensive ends in the league go completely untouched into the backfield….someone mind explaining this too me after they run 100 laps?”
Good Luck to the 53. Stand with Honor, Play With Pride. Bring It Home
by TruBluToTheCore on Nov 8, 2011 12:58 AM EST up reply actions
It's time
Ok time to go Reid your just not coach and do it this week like right now we need a coach not a nice guy
I also must ask. Is Chaney really that much of an upgrade over Matthews?
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Nov 8, 2011 12:57 AM EST reply actions
Bears fan -
Man! I can’t believe how great the games are whenever we play each other! I wouldn’t have even cared that much if the Bears lost because of how entertaining the game was – lots of momentum shifts. That’s why I love football, and I hope for lots of great battles to come! And keep your heads up, Eagle fans, you have a great team – just some nights the ball doesn’t bounce your way and weird things can happen. I still pick you to make the playoffs.
gtfo
there’s enough circle jerking going on at WCG. Just enjoy the win placed into your un-deserving hands and go quietly fall short of the super bowl.
Thanks for trying to stop by and be classy
We have a slightly altered view of how great the games are because you guys always bring out the worst in us. Bears = Eagles nemesis.
Where’s JimmyK to say he hates them 10 times more than the Redskins?
Because the Bears, you know, actually cause us pain.
You guys deserved it tonight.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
by D3Keith on Nov 8, 2011 1:05 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i didn't realize
the bears were so hated by eagles fans. I thought your main rivals were the Giants and Cowboys. Just like ours are the Packers and Vikings. I hate the Pack more than any team. I can appreciate good games against teams like the eagles though, even if the hatred isn’t there from my side
by TrenchAce on Nov 8, 2011 1:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't think it's widespread hate
Our most disliked goes:
1. Cowboys
2. Giants (we actually respect the organization for the most part)
3. Redskins.
For whatever reason, over the years, we always seem to play St. Louis, Green Bay and Chicago in non-division games.
No team has made us lose more “We played awful and we still had a chance to win” games than the Bears.
That’s where it comes from. I don’t think any of us sits around going “die, DJ Moore, die” … we just terribly underachieve against the Bears, and after a while, it’s not a fluke, it’s what you guys do to us. Hat tip.
They are always exciting finishes, I will cede that.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
Not sure if you remember these games the same way we do.
The Bears seem to play the Eagles every year, and almost every year they beat us. And almost every year, that game has some sort of playoff implications.
So it’s pretty easy to bask in the limelight of the competition when your team is consistently coming out the winners. You might not even realize that the Bears win most of our matchups, because you move on to a more important game.
Eagles fans remember all the losses, though! Haha.
by UnclaimedFright on Nov 9, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
I remember saying 3 years ago
Why cant we ever take that last drive, and why cant we ever stop the last drive… And Im still asking that now
Whos your Daddy?
Yep... we've been giving games away like this for YEARS!
It’s nothing new.
Yes, I never have a good feeling when the Eagles need 1 drive to win
Vick did it a couple times, but we really don’t go epic drive very often. I’m not sure if we’re at or below league average on come from behind drives, but it feels like they are few and far between.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
It always ends in a ridiculous way too.
A fluke drop. A bad call. Tackled 1 yard short…etc…
Yep
Thanks for bringing up the Reggie Brown memory, I’d purged that.
I’m sure we’ve had some game-winning drives — obvi Vick tied it at Miracle at the Meadowlands, and I thought he led one last year, maybe the Colts or the other Giants game — but we only seem to win if we’re playing from ahead.
The last successful game-winning drive I remember is Green Bay, MNF, McNabb to Pinkston in like 2001. One year we beat the Redskins with a late screen pass to Westbrook but I think that game was tied.
Please tell me I’m just temporarily forgetting some.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
I decided before this game that the eagles needed to go 3-2 against the bears, cowboys,giants,pats, and jets. 0-1 is not a good start, but we can still beat 3 of the rest.
mia,sea,wash,ari are of course must wins too
Good way of looking at it
I think they can mathematically catch the Giants too.
The Eagles are capable of beating anyone they play. But they are capable of losing to anyone too.
At 3-5 with four “we shoulda won that one” games, it’s hard to look more than one game ahead.
Beat Arizona, and let’s reconvene next week to talk futures.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
i started going by the one game at a time philosophy
but after the 2 wins against washington and the cowgirls i dove into the futures.
and i hate myself for it
I honestly thought
we could catch the giants by the time we played our h2h game. Was definitely hoping to pick up a game this week or next, not fall further behind.
BL: Eagles gotta take care of business before we talk playoffs again. Like maybe 7-5 territory.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
No way
I don’t trust this team farther than our punter could throw a football.
If they get to 11-5 I will talk playoffs. Not a second before. Fool me once, shame on you (yeah you Jason Avant). Fool me twice, shame on me.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Really, not at 10-5?
Because I think you would.
But yeah, point taken. When you’re multiple games under .500, you should be worried about winning one. Even if you have elite talent and all this crap that we have.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
after listening to vick
i still have the faith!!!
chess reference
“It’s never out of reach when you got the queen on the board”
By my count...
The Eagles have beat 3 other teams this year and themselves 3 times.
The monster at the end of this blog.
I don’t know what’s worse. Having to watch the Eagles play like this or having to ban all the troll Giants fans after the game.
Of all the trolls that come flooding in after any Eagles loss, by far most are Giants fans. Classy folks they are.
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by JasonB on Nov 8, 2011 1:06 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Giants, hate 'em
My mojo so dope. BITCH!
Revis's Island< Nnamdi's Nation< Jimmy Smith's EGO
Revis has his Island, Nnamdi has his continent, Asante has his no fly zone, and Mr. Rogers has his neighborhood
If only there was a way to avoid them somehow...
Oh yeah… WIN!!!!!
Whos your Daddy?
by Memstyle on Nov 8, 2011 1:08 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Dammit 2nd time that happens
Tried to rec, flag shows up instead.
French fries are really Belgian, sausages and bagels have the same amount of protein, two countries' names mean "turkey", and Santa Claus was invented by the Coca-Cola company. Is life weird or what?
Debe ser verde y volante - Πράσινο και να πετάει - It's gotta be green and it's gotta fly!
i haven't seen any of us over here
we kinda all agreed to just observe quietly. who got the axe so far?
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
Appreciate all that you do for us Jason
Seriously. Nobody needs that right now.
I’m sure our five or so Giants regulars can stay, but yeah, anyone who shows up just to taunt can go bite a … [pick your favorite genital]
It adds nothing to the user experience. Thanks for policing JB, I honestly leave BGN rather than get in arguments. You doing that means I can stay and work out my Eagles issues among my fellow men.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
And Eaglesgrl5
whereever she be. And michellemtsu … I didn’t mean to exclude.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
how come you guys don't have a mod?
Jason has enough on his plate, shouldn’t have to take out the trash on top of it.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
We don't do "mods"
that I know of, but there are four editors.
I’m sure those guys can speak for themselves, but my understanding is there’s very little need to police the threads around here, as 1) We police ourselves and 2) We’re Eagles fans, we’re desensitized to the language or whatever.
Basically we don’t need the post police out except after Eagles losses. The trolling comes heavy then and it serves no good.
Trolling = spam of the message board world.
it exists only to annoy. Good riddance. For whichever of the four editors takes on these duties, many thanks.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
Well, I made a perfectly fine post, got attacked for it, then it got deleted.
FYI, this was my original post:
What exactly in that comment constitutes it being deleted for “Trolling”? I just want to know for future reference.
If it’s simply because I’m not an Eagles fan, then that’s not very good logic.
RIP Dinger
by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 8, 2011 3:17 AM EST up reply actions
you came onto another teams site right after what was probably a season ending loss and told people how to act. Did you expect anything different than the reaction you got? Everyone knows it’s immature to act how they did, but they’re allowed to vent if they want.
I wasn't telling anyone how to act.
And I didn’t “come onto” the site right after the loss. I was reading the gamethread on BGN the whole time.
RIP Dinger
by fanoftheunderdogs on Nov 8, 2011 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for taking out the trash
And cheer up. I will have to deal with plenty of trolls tomorrow in Manhattan
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
That's because
Giant fans are the most irrational, homer, asshole, douche bag riddled fan base alive…including yankee and cowboy fans.
The fans I have endured my whole life in jersey is the reason I hate them more than the Cowboys. I don’t even hate the Giants players nearly as much as the Cowboys players, but god their fanbase is terrible.
by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Nov 8, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
It's New York City
When you live in the largest cesspool city in America, it tends to have a corrupting influence on your mental acuity and human nature.
by UnclaimedFright on Nov 9, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
I'm a bit more calmed down
now that the nicotine and alcohol has settled in. But I mean, Christ, what the hell. All of us here knew the Bears game plan coming in, so how hard was it for our coordinators and players to know what they were going to throw at us? Our coverages were just pathetic all night. We made Jay Cutler look like Aaron Rodgers with all the space we were giving their WR’s and we let Forte drag us 5 extra yards every play because we tackled like 4th graders. What an embarrassing night, especially having to go through that crap in a bar full of obnoxious Bears fans.
I’m ready for college basketball.
"You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity."
I feel you
I also just got tickets to the St. John’s @ Kentucky game and UNC @ Kentucky. I cannot wait for these games.
by GrimbleGromble on Nov 8, 2011 2:41 AM EST up reply actions
It's 1:30 in the morning.
I don’t have class until 12, but I’m still gonna go ahead and call it a night.
I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.
I’ve rarely seen such terrible officiating. How much did bears pay them?
by Mtn-Green on Nov 8, 2011 1:24 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I agree the official were all over us
But we can only blame ourselves. Championship teams can overcome things like that
Whos your Daddy?
I am "don't blame it on the refs" guy
and there’s plenty of blame to go around.
That said, the Babin call was awful, and I thought the Nnamdi/Knox on 3rd and 11 with 6 mins left in the game should’ve been a no-call. I bet not too many Bears fans would have raised a stink if they hadn’t called it. It wasn’t blatant. It’s like calling a handcheck in the final minute of a basketball game. You don’t gift a team points.
BL: the Eagles still got the ball back down 6 with 3:58 left. They led. They had their chances and blew it. Can’t blame the refs.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
The bears TE on every 3rd down ran 10 yards pushed the DB turned around and caught the ball. Every 3rd down same play.
by Mtn-Green on Nov 8, 2011 2:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I would really like to know
how Knox was supposed to catch the 3rd & 11 pass. It was 5 yards behind with the contact. Without the contact, Know is even further down the field.
However, without Jackson fumbling the punt, the call against Babin never happens and the Eagles win 24-23.
The one that really got me
was the late hit call on Tapp. That was absurd.
by Turd.Ferguson on Nov 8, 2011 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
I hate jay cutler.
All i hear is how mediocre he is and see how average he is when playing agianst most teams and then he plays us and hes like a top 5 quarterback. I dont think he had really any ‘bad’ throws tonight. Same a last year. That bastard
I'm not even mad...more disappointed and sad.
Frazier died and Eagles played like shit.
Run Shady Run to the road to victory.
by BIBTD on Nov 8, 2011 1:30 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
I saw the news about Frazier only having a short time to live on ESPN on Saturday. I was ready for the worst… The loss came out of nowhere.
I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.
by Snax on Nov 8, 2011 1:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
need a lot of help
from the NFC North and NFC South
"It's never out of reach when you got the queen on the board, and thats Andy Reid" - Mike Vick
ONE GAME AT A TIME
No.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
Also known as Ump.
by Imp on Nov 8, 2011 1:40 AM EST up reply actions
That team had the 3rd ranked defense in the NFL. Let’s not pretend this group is anywhere close to that.
I root for the All-Hype Team.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Nov 8, 2011 2:10 AM EST up reply actions
And here's the best part
If us and the Bears both finish 3rd in our respective divisions this year, we’ll get to play them again next year!
(bangs head against wall repeatedly)
I root for the All-Hype Team.
by everybodyhitswoohoo on Nov 8, 2011 2:12 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
FUCK.
Are you kidding me? I’ll be scribbling a loss when next years schedule comes out…and probably a lot more “L’s” if we keep playing how we did against the Bears..
by EaglesForever20 on Nov 8, 2011 8:06 AM EST up reply actions
Step 1 ??
Step 2 ??
Step 3 ??
Step 4 ??
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Nov 8, 2011 2:24 AM EST up reply actions
Step 5: PROFIT
Now… About those first 4 steps.
The Curse of Lombardi
I AM NOT A DESEAN JACKSON FAN
-DeSean Jackson was once the great young wide receiver hope of this franchise, he has since devolved into a rich man's Todd Pinkston, otherwise known as Alligator Arms. My DeSean Jackson fan-hood was misguided.
these players are horrible.
I’m done trashing the coaching. I already know they all suck (Although I really like Mudd and Andy coached his ass off tonight). The ASSistants were shit. But the players? Asante, Babin, Patterson, Chaney, DRC, Asomugha, Fokou……ALL SUCKED ASS! And that’s just the defense. Jackson, Avant, Maclin, Watkins, and Vick stunk up the LINC tonight. At some point, as a player, you gotta have some work ethic. Some pride in your job. These Eagles lack this key component. And its the main ingredient in a champion.
Crush them, my Birds!!! CRUSH THEM!!!!!!!!!
WTF is wrong with these players
Especially the defense. DRC would just try to grab jersey and the let them go…and then fucking Asante…ugh. Jackson sure as fuck doesnt deserve a pay raise, he been playing with his head up his ass all season and tonight was a fucking embaressment.
Speaking of heads up asses the refs were ridiculous. The call on Babin was absurd, especially when earlier in the game one of the o-line fod Chicago dropped their knees on the back of his neck when he was on the ground. Seemed like it shoulda been a personal foul to me. And the no call after Vick was shoved out of bounds after that pass to Avant.
I’ll NEVER stop wearing my colors but this shit is getting ridiculous, somethin’ has to change. Can we get the damn ball to bounce in our favor the last half of the season? Just something?
Damn.
Even cats bleed Eagle green. . .
by The11thLetter on Nov 8, 2011 2:48 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
There are players who play the game well, and then there are dirty players. I loved the way Urlacher pulled up when he saw the Vick already threw the ball. This is the same guy that was in on almost every tackle! He could have leveled Vick, but did not. Peppers and Idonije, on the other hand, are dirty players, regardless of their ability. Refs really blew this one – how would they feel if someone “accidentally” injured one of them for their atrocious officiating? NFL does not require any accountability from their refs and the level of the officiating has been steadily declining in the past 2 years. Someone wondered why the level of animosity between Eagles and Bears was higher than between Eagles and Giants – well this type of thing will happen when dirty plays are not flagged by the officials…
by Eagles700Level on Nov 8, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
Im really pissed right now.
I never thought i would say this, but some players needs to get traded… Asante first of all, never been a huge fan of his play, i liked his big talking attitude when it paired with some big plays. This year, i just remember the yapping about the trade during training camp. Man Up!!! Asante makes big plays… yes for the opposing team ffs. Our top wrs making mistakes in clutch situations. Maclin, Jackson, Avant all of them had their fumbles/missed catches. What the fuck is happening…. don’t tell me that this is coaching problem. I played basketball for years, and situations like this in my opinion it all comes down to the players, lack of concentration, maybe some of them should get benched for a wake-up call…. Oh and one more thing.. this problem won’t be fixed by drafting some elite LB. The coaching comes in at this point. Can he make the players focus or not. And i mean MAKE. Enough with the chest bumps (or belly bumps) No time for Andy Klaus this year.
A pissed off eagles fan from Hungary.
GO EAGLES!!
"To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift. "
Steve Prefontaine
Oh man my head hurts...........
really pissed at lack of enthusiasm on offense.Seemed like most of them just looked defeated and unwilling to believe. allthough it was a good hard fought game , I truly feel they just didnt carry enough determination to win.
It also didnt hurt that their defense all around could tackle,swarm the ball and never slowed down.They were Beasts.We were not.
But I still love me some Eagles and will still stand up now ..5 am,and go to work in lasts nites #87 black Celek jersey and nurse my hangover.CYA.
It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.
the day we only score 3 points with this offense, is the day ill give everyone a dollar haha
by bleedgreen89 on Sep 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Fuck this shit
Is there even a point of watching the rest of the season?
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#PayDeSeanJackson
They are 3-5. Most Eagles’ fans under the age of 25 really have never seen them terrible for a prolonged stretch. Just really that one year at the end of the Rhodes era where they really bottomed out and were boring to watch. If anything, they have been good to very good under Reid.
Yes, we got spoiled. Many young fans do not remember years 3 and 4 under Rhodes. Or the atrocious teams under Rich Kotite. It was before my time, but I heard that Marion Campbell teams were even worse… For my money, I like what Reid is doing (most of the time), so I would give him a mulligan for this season. But with a full off-season, there will be no excuses for him next year. We need a better back up QB, backup RBs, backup safeties and could use a first round middle linebacker in the draft.
by Eagles700Level on Nov 8, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
One (of many) things that pisses me off is how soft our D has become. My brother is a Pittsburgh fan and I regularly have to watch them generally against someone like Baltimore. Watching them play with such aggression/passion is great, but, it I’d like to see our D play like that. Rolle seems to to fit that mold but it would definitely help if we had a couple of hard-hitting LB’s to plug those holes left by the ‘wide 9’ system.
Also this is one of the first times i said this but Andy and Co probably need to go at the end of the season. We’ve been bad since the back end of last season and haven’t improved on things that were wrong then.
Finally what’s up with our home record? Haven’t we lost like 6 of the 7 at home! That fcuking sucks balls!
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Talent gap
Between the Eagles front-7 and the Bears front-7 on defense is pretty vast. Bears’ d-line destroyed this o-line last year and they did a pretty good job on them tonight too.
Probably the worst game I can remember the Eagles’ DE though playing in quite a while in both pass/run defense. Cole doesn’t look anywhere near 100% yet. Babin is the most one-dimensional player on this team. He can speed rush the passer but he is utterly useless in run defense either in containment or actually making a tackle. Tapp was a non-factor as he his most games. Graham was piss poor getting blown off the ball and pushed ball repeatedly when he was in there on run defense.
Forte loves to rush outside, Eagles knew that, and didn’t do much to stop him because there DE run defense was so piss poor last night.
Excellent points, MG77. Babin was surprisingly bad. Cole actually played well – remember that Forte forced fumble? Graham was close a couple of times. But it is kind of hard to rush full speed when you are being chopped at the knees on almost every play. This must be especially terrifying to someone like Graham who just came back from a knee rehab. Who would have ever thought that Mike Tice (Bears OL coach) is the second coming of that wily old fox Alex Gibbs? That said, I agree with you, MG77 – DL effort should have been a lot better…
by Eagles700Level on Nov 8, 2011 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
DeSean Jackson
He is basically like Santana Moss only a bit more explosive. He gives you ~60 catches, ~1,000 yds, ~6-7 TDs if he stays healthy for 16 games. A good WR who isn’t a great WR worth top 5 or 10 money.
great comparison!
Desean=Santana moss is spot on. After his first two seasons I believed he was the second coming of Steve Smith (Carolina). I’m starting to see how wrong I was.
by djthekidd on Nov 8, 2011 8:50 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Vick
For all of the talk about him improving his accuracy/footwork, he still isn’t good at making adjustments at the line or making progressions quickly.
People will inevitably blame Reid
But I thought the play-calling especially on offense was quite good most of the night. Even the play-calling was defense wasn’t terrible. Execution was simply lacking especially last night on defense again including a questionable physical effort by some of the players including DRC and Samuel.
defensive play calling was suspect at best
We’ve seen for 5 weeks Nnamdi is lost in zone coverage. You paid elevnty billion dollars for a shutdown man corner. I know, let’s play zone!!!
by djthekidd on Nov 8, 2011 8:53 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
For this game, I agree with you
This game is a win if DeSean doesn’t botch the PR and you can’t blame Reid for that. Same re the botched fake punt. Great call, abysmal execution. The punter just botched it. But I want a team that is prepared to implement that play. And you can’t play 3 better CBs on paper than the Eagles have. Putting them in man against receivers who have much lower reputations makes all the sense in the world, as long as they execute. They just all played well below their reputations. The players have to execute.
The only thing I would criticize re the offensive play calling is they need more WRs in motion to free them up when the D is playing press.
McCoy the best Eagle on the field?
I’m not saying this isn’t true, but except for the TD run, he didn’t do much. And if he was the best Eagle on the field, than then other 52 guys need to all be given a pink slip.
Can't see who else you'd give it to....
McCoy didn’t have great downfield blocking, but his cuts consistently made people miss.
"Respect all. Fear none."
- Tom Coughlin
by BigBlueIntervention on Nov 8, 2011 9:10 AM EST up reply actions
McCoy definitely was the best Eagle on the field. One cannot expect a running back to have long runs on every single play. Barry Sanders, Emmitt Smith and Walter Payton all had bad plays and bad games. But McCoy gave it his best effort and made the best of inconsistent run blocking. He has been nothing short of amazing all season and is really the only consistently bright spot on the otherwise inconsistent play by the Eagles. I always loved Duce Staley and Brian Westbrook and the effort they gave on every play. McCoy is all that plus he has an unreal Barry Sanders / LT type ability…
by Eagles700Level on Nov 8, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
Who would you say was better…you sir are blind.
by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Nov 8, 2011 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Reflections on Eagles - Bears game
NFL officiating has been worse than bad – it has been downright atrocious all season, and in almost every NFL game. There is no officiating conspiracy against the Eagles, but it is strange that most bad calls / non-calls seem to go against them – that is a statistical anomaly. “Backwards pass” idiocy last time, Forte fumble non-call and obviously bad roughing the passer call on Babin this time… That said, Eagles should not have been in the position where a bad call or two by the officials would affect the outcome of the game. McCoy and Celek made a great effort. Vick, Samuel and Rolle made mistakes, but played fairly well. Jackson, Maclin and Chas Henry are obvious goats, but no one had a worse game than DRC. His poor coverage techniques, his lazy tackling attempts and overall lack of effort should land him in Reid’s doghouse for a few weeks. DRC almost single-handedly made Earl Bennet look like a Calvin Johnson / Andre Johnson / young TO clone. DRC also made Asante “They Don’t Pay Me To Tackle” Samuel look like Urlacher (thanks, JasonB). If Reid does not go medieval on DRC and Co, he will lose this team… But we are still only at halfway point of the season and the season is not lost – stranger things have happened in the last 8 games…
Who they are
They are the San Diego Chargers, East. A team that looks awesome in the press clippings but always blows it come game day.
why dont they just send desean home?
if he’s not going to play hard, and the team wont work with rosenhaus, and he’s not going to get a new agent… just send him home… they’d be better off without the attitude at this point. asante too.
It's hard.....
….to disagree with you on this point…..
DRC is a fucking pussy.
And also, if a kick goes out of bounds aren’t you supposed to get it at the 45 this year? That happened a few weeks ago in an Eagles game and the ball was placed at the 45. I’m sure someone pointed that out in the game thread but I wasn’t here for that.
3-5. Eagles are fucked.
The Jruth shall be told.
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My 1st post. Benn following Eagles since 1959. Andy Reid has worn out his welcome. If you can’t get it done in 12 years, you ain’t gonna get it done. Drafts are generally fair but too many 1 through 3 picks are busts (think back to L..J. Smith being taken w/ Jamie Witten still on the board). Linebackers are pathetic; they are all low draft choices and play like it. Last night’s game was display of poor tackling, confusion re assignments, unimaginative play-calling, and lack of discipline. Desean Jackson hasn’t shown up for 11 straight games (he ought to give back some of his salary instead of seeking a new K). Morninglory and Castillo need to go NOW! If AR won’t pull the trigger get rid of AR too. Only see 3 wins for rest of season (Zona maybe, ‘Skins and Dolphins). Hope the FO doesn’t blow a good high draft choice, e.g. Freddie Mitchell, Jerome McDougle.
After last night I actually believe Hanson should be in the slot and not DRC. Not a joke. I am serious.
Every time a Cowboy hates, an Eagle gets his wings.
by Spurs Yoda on Nov 8, 2011 12:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions
After last night I actually believe Hanson should be in the slot and not DRC. Not a joke. I am serious.
Every time a Cowboy hates, an Eagle gets his wings.
by Spurs Yoda on Nov 8, 2011 12:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions
After last night I actually believe Hanson should be in the slot and not DRC. Not a joke. I am serious.
Every time a Cowboy hates, an Eagle gets his wings.
by Spurs Yoda on Nov 8, 2011 12:08 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Sorry for the multiple post. Smart phone fail
Every time a Cowboy hates, an Eagle gets his wings.
by Spurs Yoda on Nov 8, 2011 12:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
The defense looked like shit and Maclin ends the game again...
"Remember, it's not over until the fat lady drops one."
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