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Nnamdi finally being Nnamdi has been a big part of the Eagles resurgence.  (Photo by Chris Trotman/Getty Images)

After their poor start to the season, it's understandable that some fans would be wary of trusting this current Eagles team. Yes, the improvement has looked real, but with the way their performances would vary from half to half early in the season, I think it's fair to worry that it could still happen from game to game.

However, Football Outsiders looked a few numbers and some film and concluded that the Eagles resurgence is no fluke, but their early season struggles may have been. First, they noted that the Eagles have actually played a very tough schedule early in the season, much tougher than was expected.

With respect to strength of opponent, the Eagles have played the ninth-toughest schedule according to our metrics. Not surprisingly, their three wins have come against teams with a combined 7-14 record, whereas their four losses were against teams with a combined record of 20-8. The math here shows that, if Philadelphia had played a schedule of league-average strength so far, it'd have an estimated record of 4-3 -- a win better than its actual record.

They also examined the effect of luck in some of these games. Generally teams win half of their games decided by 7 points or less, but the Eagles lost virtually all of those four straight games by a close score and bad luck had a lot to do with it.

For another example of bad luck, we need only to look at Michael Vick's eight interceptions, six of which have been the result of either tipped balls by a defensive lineman or drops by an intended receiver. Vick's had balls intercepted after bouncing off helmets, hands, shoulders and even feet. In the case of his last interception in Buffalo, it was all of the above.

I've been saying this all year, Vick has been the victim of some awful turnover luck that just has to even out at some point. Over the last couple weeks, we've seen that happening.

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They also looked at the impact of the two injuries Michael Vick picked up that forced him out of two games which ended up as losses. But I think the more important point they found and one that I've felt has made for the greatest impact has been the improved play of the secondary, most notably of the new guys.

In pass defense, it was a comedy of errors until recently because the secondary had several new faces -- Nnamdi Asomugha and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie to name two -- whose skill sets were honed in defensive systems that don't resemble that of the Eagles. If you watch the film of late on this unit, you see far fewer gaping holes in Philadelphia's zone coverage, with Asomugha and Rogers-Cromartie looking more comfortable in their assignments.

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It also seems like the Eagles have missed significantly less tackles in the last couple games

I have to go out now do not have time to look this up. Is this actually true or is it just perception bias on my part?

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by Justin F. on Nov 7, 2011 11:05 AM EST reply actions  

Jarrad Page has not been on the field in the last couple of games. That should answer your question.

by Rujasu on Nov 7, 2011 12:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Ding! We have a winner.

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Nov 7, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think I have ever seen a defensive secondary look as bad as the Patriots D backfield looked yesterday. That was the worst I’ve ever seen. And they CUT Jarrad Page to make room for that dreck.

Oh boy, is this great!

by MayIhave10,000marblesplease? on Nov 7, 2011 12:40 PM EST up reply actions  

The Patriots are falling apart. Their D is aweful and their O is one-dimensional…

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 7, 2011 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

and that one dimension is seeming to be pretty poor being as they have had no down field passing threats.

by Balagast on Nov 7, 2011 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I know one team that’s really hoping we let Jackson go unsigned…

Honestly though, the potential WR free agent pool this year is insanely deep. Reggie Wayne, Vincent Jackson, Marques Colston, Dwayne Bowe, Steve Johnson, and Brandon Lloyd could all hit the market this summer. Imagine Brady with VJax. On second though, don’t. It’ll give you nightmares,

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by Avant-Garde on Nov 7, 2011 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

The Pat's need a burner to beat man-to-man over the top

I’m sure they would be much more interested in your jax than Sd’s jax

...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"

Coaches FEAR the "Harbshake"

by jimisoursavior on Nov 7, 2011 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

They’re both elite deep threats, but I think VJax is far more likely than DJax to be available given Vincent’s conflict with SD management last year.

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by Avant-Garde on Nov 7, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

was looking for raw data

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by Justin F. on Nov 7, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s surprisingly difficult to find in depth defensive stats like missed tackles. I was looking for average yards after catch given up by defenses a while ago (because I figured poor tackling would lead to higher YAC averages) and couldn’t find anything except an espn article that had the stats for the first 10 games or so of last season (the Eagles were bottom quarter, as I suspected). I emailed the writer asking for his source, and he never responded. I wish you better luck than me.

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by Avant-Garde on Nov 7, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly

it’s encouraging, but I don’t need stats to tell me this Eagles team is a lot better than the way they’ve played. The Eagles built a 20 point lead on SF and would have won if not for those missed field goals.

That same 49er team is now 7-1 and the talk of the NFL. And the Eagles dominated most of that game.

That said, it doesn’t matter. Luck and all of that is part of the game. The great teams find a way to rise above that. Are the Eagles great? Or are they merely a talented team that can be thwarted by a little luck and misfortune.

GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!

by tanman5 on Nov 7, 2011 11:16 AM EST reply actions  

At the end of the day

the Eagles trail the Giants by 2 1/2 games and if they lose tonight, they will have to kiss the season good bye.

by GermanEagle on Nov 7, 2011 11:20 AM EST reply actions  

so true unless the giants have a meltdown. am i the only one who is impressed by how good the giants are doing after being riddled with injuries on defense? I thought they were gonna have a terrible season.

by phillyfan330 on Nov 7, 2011 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

same here.. I was actually feeling sorry for them when they were having an ACL tear every week during training camp. I’m pissed off that they’re somehow 2+ games ahead of us when we’ve been surprisingly healthy.

by MikeCampy on Nov 7, 2011 11:37 AM EST up reply actions  

They are def resilient. Manning is playing clutch and their D is good.

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 7, 2011 11:40 AM EST up reply actions  

appreciate the respect, as NYG fan

as I said here weeks ago, the Eagles are a top tier potential team that was particularly impacted by the lockout.

All those new guys and a new DC with a new scheme is a lot to have to overcome. The first 4 weeks for every team were always going to be more or less preseason type games in terms of team’s cohesiveness and preparation.

I do think people routinely disparaged and underestimated the Giants’ talent but at the same time the team did not have to install a ton of new players or a new scheme. It just had to deal with the injuries.

This is why I thought it was not right to throw your coaches under the bus when things got bad for you guys early. Continuity helps win games and Reid is a proven winner over many seasons.

Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me

by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST

by AJ_in_VA on Nov 7, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

The Eagles may have a better chance at it all next season, but for now, we stil lhave hope….just win games…

The Giants seem to have an “it” factor this year…. Maybe its because Eli isnt fuckin up as much….i know that sounds bad….but it is true given the history…..he’s playing real well right now….

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 7, 2011 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

of course you have a chance

And Eli is making better decisions this year, not forcing things. He did that last year and it resulted in some of the same kind of “bad luck” plays you guys are talking about this year – tipped balls for INT’s. What Eagles fans call the 8 minute mniracle was also good luck abetted by horrible NYG execution last year.

The old Brooklyn Dodger HOF owner Branch Rickey used to say “Luck is the residue of design” and he was not all wrong. That said, the margin between winning and losing in any NFL game is always razor thin.

Anything can happen, which has been my main disagreement with Eagles fans from the beginning of this season. A lot of Eagles fans acted as if the season was a lock for you guys before any games were played, and talked a lot of trash about it.

Then, when things started bad, a lot of guys got really angry and lashed out at the coaches etc.

The Giants are better than you guys ever gave them credit for, and the Eagles are still a very good team that can compete with anybody, any day. But you got off to a bad start and it may be too late to fully overcome it.

But it may not be, either.

Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me

by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST

by AJ_in_VA on Nov 7, 2011 12:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry
The Giants are better than you guys ever gave them credit for

Nope.

GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!

by tanman5 on Nov 7, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 7, 2011 12:25 PM EST up reply actions  

What Eagles fans call the 8 minute mniracle was also good luck abetted by horrible NYG execution last year.

i love how giant fans can’t accept that mike vick ripped their hearts out last year. he did that with plenty of boners and self inflicted wounds going in to the last 8 minutes. maclin’s fumble before the half. desean’s fumble that wasn’t. 14 giant points right there.
    AND THEN MIKE VICK RIPPED THEIR HEARTS OUT!
and the giants were losing by 2 when they achieved their noble gameplan of “knocking” vick out this year.
     EAGLES ARE GOING TO KICK THE GIANTS ASS IN GAME 2 this year.
GET NERVOUS NOw giants fans.

by andyfrombrooklyn on Nov 7, 2011 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

I knew you were a Douche Bag..

Per you yesterday:
“cya guys, I need to check the BGN open thread
:→” This is what you stated during the game yesterday on BBV, infering you want to enjoy the misery and/or talk shit in a sneaky way. So No, you are not a level headed fan you are a “yellow belly” prick that is too scared to come straight out and talk shit so you do it in hidding (Like BBI). Coward.
So save the “Im just a person that likes to talk football.” You are a dumbass, and have been exposed.

ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th

Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT

Shady is the best RB in the NFL not AP
he is the real deal, that dude scares me to death more than anyone on that team besides Vick with time to throw the ball
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by ChiaCrack on Nov 5, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

by EagleEyes on Nov 8, 2011 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

But the blunders that cost the Eagles wins were mostly by veteran players and unrelated to the loss of practice time from the lockout.

Maclin’s 2 game-ending fumbles.
Avant’s two backbreaking turnovers.
Ronnie Brown’s infamous throw-away.
Game-ending penalties by Juqua Parker and Jason Babin in separate games.
Vick’s tipped passes always landing into hands of defenders.
Red zone execution (been a problem for many years).
Kicker missing two FG’s. (Kicking is the only thing he does in life.)
etc.

by MikeCampy on Nov 7, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

well, the part I don't agree with is. . .

even veteran players need time to get their game skills sharp and to be coached well into disciplined habits.

Plus, when your offense was feeling so much pressure to make up for the failures of the defense, guys stress more and sometimes more mistakes happen.

I don’t think you can isolate it all like that. play by play and player by player. Any team sports I have ever played shows me that when things are clicking on one part of the team that can spill over, and the opposite is also true.

Now everyone will say Eli is in Bradys class. F*ck me

by PatNation85 on Nov 6, 2011 4:31 PM PST

by AJ_in_VA on Nov 7, 2011 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Umm

The Eagles blew 4 games to very inferior teams. We were ABSOLUTELY right to throw the coaches under the bus.

GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!

by tanman5 on Nov 7, 2011 12:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Why not the players?

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by AnthroEagle on Nov 7, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

yoru such an ignorant fan it's unreal

did you watch any of those games? the players clearly blew all of those games themselves. stupid mistakes cost us dearly

by phillyfan330 on Nov 7, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

The coaches' fault?

They didn’t make Parker jump offside when the whole world new they weren’t going to snap the ball
They didn’t make Maclin drop easy passes.
They didn’t make Avant hand the ball over to the defenders.
And they weren’t the ones missing tackle after tackle.

Even the players themselves took the blame, see Maclin’s angry locker room interview

And as it turned out, the teams we lost to weren’t as inferior as we thought coming into the season

by davidbt11 on Nov 7, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Obviously they were in part to blame

but the poor execution by the players was far more damaging for us

by davidbt11 on Nov 7, 2011 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for stating what everyone already knows, Negative Nancy. Have fun on your angry chair.

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by EagleGreeninMD on Nov 7, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Still untrue.

Admittedly, the Giants are better than I expected them to be, especially with the injuries at the beginning of the season. But though they got past NE last night, they still have San Fran, Philly, New Orleans, and Green Bay in their next 4. Even if they do well and split those games, provided one of those losses is against us and we handle our business, we are still right there. They have one of the worst remaining schedules in the league.

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Is it because I'm black???

by Qwest on Nov 7, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Say the Eagles lose to the Bears tonight

Eagles are 3 behind the Giants.

Next week the Eagles play the Cardinals, and the Giants play the 49ers. That is a winnable game for the Eagles, and a loseable game for the Giants. The week after that, Eagles play the Giants.

Even if the Eagles lose tonight, it is still very feasible that in two weeks time, they are only a game back behind the Giants with over a month to go.

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by Justin F. on Nov 7, 2011 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea those games were absurdly ridiculous.

A double digit number of fluke bounces and bad breaks were going against us in those 4 losses. A bunch of them can’t be blamed on effort, inexperience, roster changes… they were retarded mistakes by veteran players, but that’s still bad luck at least for the fans.

I mean Maclin has a career day and then drops the ball when we’re in range for a game-winning FG. Copy-paste: Maclin has a career day and then drops the ball on 4th down when we’re 20 yards away from winning the game. Avant has a career day and commits two crazy drops that lead to backbreaking turnovers in a one-score game. Penalties by 100-year veterans Juqua Parker and Jason Babin ruined chances to attempt a game-tying drive. The Ronnie Brown fumble etc… Kicker missing two easy FG’s in a close game.

These are things that happen once in a season, and yet they were happening to us repeatedly throughout the same game, 4 weeks in a row.

by MikeCampy on Nov 7, 2011 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

They needed at TD against the Falcons. Other than that everything you said x1000

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Nov 7, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Brown didn't fumble, he exercised the option Fat Andy gave him.

There is a reason no other coach gives halfbacks run/pass options in the red zone.

by buddyball9 on Nov 7, 2011 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL

I dont care! He is a 8-9 year vet. He has been a running back since he could put pads on. He has been getting paid millions of dollars every year to be a running back. How in the world can him trying to throw the ball backwards while being wrapped up and falling to the ground be blamed on anyone but Ronnie Brown. I dont care if he had a Run/Pass option one bit. If he had the option, then it was up to Ronnie to make the right read. He not only made the wrong option, he did so in embarrassing fashion. Yes, Reid gave Ronnie the choice, but Ronnie mad the absolute worst choice you can do. 100% on Ronnie

by Mike Will is DoubleDown on Nov 7, 2011 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

This is nice to see

It backs up the way we’ve felt all year long.

But it’s all for naught if they lose tonight. This is a huge game that got even bigger when the Giants won yesterday.

Keep the defensive dominance going tonight for the third game in a row and then I’ll believe it’s for real.

by Smitty2K3 on Nov 7, 2011 11:33 AM EST reply actions  

You are what your record says you are

and that’s 3-4 against a tough schedule. Great teams play well enough so flukey bounces of the ball won’t be the determining factor of who wins and who loses. Great teams don’t allow the game to be close enough to do that, they put their opponent away when up by 2 scores in the second half.

I’m willing to give some of the record a pass, but after a while, wins are wins and losses are losses, and no one can convince me we’re an elite team until we start having an elite record.

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by NJBammer on Nov 7, 2011 11:37 AM EST reply actions  

sort of...

I think we are a great team… now. At the start of the season? no way in hell! Our offensive line was a sieve for Defenses to get through; Our secondary was getting torched; our defense couldnt stop the run to save our life; we all know how bad it looked.

However, the past 2 games were amazing. We were not only playing strong but smart. We were controlling our opponents from every aspect of the game. This comes with good coaching, players making the right decisions at crucial times, and sometimes, yes, a little luck. If we can stay healthy, there is no stopping this team!

Up against a team like the Bears who are very physical, I hope we can get a win without losing any guys to injuries.

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by thePurpleLion on Nov 7, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

what sucks is we got go 8-1 or 7-2 in the remaining 9 and it may not be enough to get it…. even if they dominate most games, it may all have to wait until next year….but we can sure make a good run at it this year…

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 7, 2011 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

11 wins is getting you into the playoffs this year in the NFC. There’s no doubt.

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Nov 7, 2011 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

Cause we have the Lions who will taker a spot and will most likely finish with 11-12 wins… And then we’ll have Atlanta or NO at the same….and we have a shitty NFC record…

11 wins is not a certainty for the Eagles to get wild card

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 7, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah it is. I’ll give you that first spot with the Lions, even though their schedule is tough down the stretch. Matt Ryan got covered up yesterday by Julio Jones. They’re going to lose some of these games.

5-3 record for ATL right now right?

vs. NO – obviously a tough matchup – loss 5-4
vs. TN – they could easily lose this game, Titans might be playing for their season – Win 6-4
vs. MN – Playing better than with McNabb and AP can go off on anyone. Could lose this game too – win 7-4
@ HOU – Andre Johnson will be back and Houston is currently on a roll and has a much improved secondary with great linebackers – loss 7-5
@ CAR – Cam could definitely pull this one out – win 8-5
vs JAX – porbably the easiest game left on the schedule, but JAX plays tough – Win 9-5
@ NO – NO fighting for playoff position (maybe a 2 seed you never know) and plays great at home – loss 9-6
vs. TB – TB may be fighting for their playoff lives, and if not would want to spoil Atlanta’s chances of making the playoffs – win 10-6

GIVING them the benefit of the doubt I have them at 10-6. If you think they’ll beat NO once or HOU without losing another one of these games then you can put them at 11-5. I’m not.

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Nov 7, 2011 12:47 PM EST up reply actions  

lol … you didnt have to do all this work. I understand the possibility…. Just like I understand the less than favorable chances of the Eagles getting to 11-5. Again, im not looking that far ahead, a lot can happen… they just gotta win now….. and keeping winning….

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 7, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

meh. I’ve done it in my head about 20 times now. Figured I’d get it on paper (internet counts as paper) for future reference.

It’s almost impossible to go 11-5 and not make the playoffs. I think the Pats were the only team ever to do it, but there may have been another one or two times.

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Nov 7, 2011 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeh, its true. Im just being cautiously optimistic…. I think we should just focus on the Eagles right now though…. there are still 7-8 wins needed …and a lot of crap in between…..

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 7, 2011 12:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree 100%

Only so many bad bounces lead to coughing up a 20 pt lead. I’d rather not dress up our losses to teams like SF by saying “Wow, look at them, they’re 7-1! They’re a great team!” Fact is, we took our foot off of their necks and stopped playing hard. They wanted to win more than we did.

Now the ATL game? It took two REALLY sweet catches for ATL to win that game…plus a fairly lame INT that clearly hit the ground.

by DLawrence55 on Nov 7, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Well to be fair, the argument here wasn’t that the Eagles were great, simply that they were better than their record would suggest.

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by JasonB on Nov 7, 2011 12:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Which one is the bad one; FootballOutsiders of PFF?

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by immynimmy on Nov 7, 2011 11:52 AM EST reply actions  

This is the same as several years ago when the Eagles made the playoffs, but beat almost no winning teams. The argument is that the opponents have losing records because we beat them works the same both ways. This is currently not a playoff team because the playoff teams have been beating us. At this point, we have a negative impact on other teams strength of schedule. I dont think this is a bad team, but it is a team that took a bit too long to learn how to win.

It makes me sick to see the giants keep winning by just enough, but that is a skill that reflects on the team itself. Weak opponents, lucky calls, tough injury situation… none of it matters… at this point the Eagles are going to have a hell of a time getting into the postseason.

by ATLeagle on Nov 7, 2011 11:59 AM EST reply actions  

They just gotta win….and not worry about the rest….if they get in, they get in…if they don’t…we’re going to do it all again next year….

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 7, 2011 12:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Not necessarily...

If we win this game tonight against the Bears, we will be top runner in the hunt behind the Falcons. It sucks that they are ahead of us and have beaten us (tie breaker) but they already have 3 conference losses like us so its about them getting knocked down by NFC opponents. But we don’t HAVE TO WIN THE DIVISION. It seems as if though every Eagles fan has forgotten that the #6 seed is very much still an option. The Falcons have a very tough schedule ahead of them, the Bears shouldn’t have a chance (assuming we beat them). The Buccaneers just aren’t on the upswing that they were last year, making me believe they won’t hold onto a chance either. The Cowboys are our greatest opponent for the seed as they have an easy schedule ahead of them.

If the Eagles are as good as we all like to think they are, then we can make the playoffs. The Giants can roll as long as they want as long as we keep winning too.

by Lets Get Real on Nov 7, 2011 12:16 PM EST up reply actions  

great, I had come to terms with a quick end to the meaningful season, now I have a whole list of teams to watch so that I can remain completely emotionally invested

by ATLeagle on Nov 7, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Only one playoff-worthy team has beat teh Eagles

That same team beat the Eagles 4 times. It’s the Eagles themselves

GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!

by tanman5 on Nov 7, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree;d

Because I believe on 1 maybe 2 of those 4 teams that beat us will make that playoff’s and that is san fran, buffalo is still up in the air and this past weekend could have been the changing point, atl I say is out and the giants, that is just a fluke, period. Eli is playing out his mind right now and if New England D wasnt so shitty haha well that is another discussion

by DcEagles29 on Nov 7, 2011 12:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Only one play-off worthy team? How about the 49er's?

 They are dominant on defense, have great special team’s, and are extremely efficient on offense

...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"

Coaches FEAR the "Harbshake"

by jimisoursavior on Nov 7, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Please

The combine record of the teams that beat the Eagles as they say is 20-8. Keep telling yourself they lost to bad teams. Your delusional.

by PhilsForever on Nov 7, 2011 1:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

OT: but people say the baseball playoffs are a crapshoot… is football like that? i know its not as big of a crapshoot, but still…. giants in 07, packers last year, etc.

I hate new york.

by XxActionJacksonxX on Nov 7, 2011 12:26 PM EST reply actions  

Even moreso

Because it’s only one game.

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by JasonB on Nov 7, 2011 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Actully baseball is the biggest crapshoot with NFL having the high seed winning most often

by Anders Jensen on Nov 7, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Baseball also relies much more on luck than football. That’s why the best teams in football go 12-4 (.750 winning ) and the best baseball teams win about 60 of their games.

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Nov 7, 2011 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyways, I'm not an Eagle's fan but I'm thinking of taken them giving 8 points tonight (yikes!)

I was wondering if some of you could give me a little insight into their run-defense the last two games. Was the improved run-D numbers a result of taking an early lead and forcing the skins/cowgirls to abandon the run? Or have you genuinely improved against the run?

...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"

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by jimisoursavior on Nov 7, 2011 1:05 PM EST reply actions  

I think it’s a combination of both. The players are definitely becoming better adjusted to the wide-9 scheme, and the coaches are adjusting to stop the run too. On running downs, they’ve started moving the DE’s closer to the center, making the running lanes for the RBs smaller. That said, they did give up something like 74 yards on 8 carries to DeMarco Murray last weak. This could be because there were very few situations where the Eagles were expecting the run (35-10 passing to running plays for the Boys), but it still can’t be ignored.

I fully expect Forte to have a big day. Even if the Eagles get a big lead, he should still factor heavily into the passing game through check-downs. Still, I think the Eagles have the weapons on defense to get to Cutler early and often while smothering his passing options, so Forte will have to carry the Bears to victory if they’re going to win.

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by Avant-Garde on Nov 7, 2011 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the input 'preciate it

...and then Singletary opened His Book and it said "thou shalt NOT pass"

Coaches FEAR the "Harbshake"

by jimisoursavior on Nov 7, 2011 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Need help,

I haved a class tonight, a 7-930, and my drive home is about an hr. So im unfortunatley going to miss the early stages of the game. I need to know what radio station merill does the announcing in the harrisburg/hershey/lancaster area so i can listen in on the drive home.

by 10stride on Nov 7, 2011 2:18 PM EST reply actions  

Scrolling through this thread I thought of something. That drop Maclin had at the end of the Falcons game, and all the fumbles he had, including the game killing one against the 49ers…. I’ve barely seen him criticized at all for that. Granted, he still produces and has been the best WR this year in terms of stats but… If it was DeSean making those mistakes he would get absolutely destroyed on here.

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by Djax10 on Nov 7, 2011 2:31 PM EST reply actions  

Yup

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Pay DeSean Jackson

by Djax10 on Nov 7, 2011 2:51 PM EST up reply actions  

MAKE IT A TEASER

Make it a 7 pt teaser, take the Eagles -1 and imo the over (40 pts). Im thinking with the way we’ve been playing recently, we can easily put up 28-35 and the Bears can make up the rest.

As for Maclin dropping the pass, the fumble, any drop, etc. why not then Avant vs Buffalo? Jarrad Page vs Everyone? Henery? Matthews? Vick? Brown? Smith

The reason why Maclin or any of these have been singled out individually (to a truly microscopic focus of media) is because they all happened together, in one wonderful symphony of sh!t. The reason why Maclin’s moments weren’t talked about is because they were just the symbols to this stellar jam.

by Lets Get Real on Nov 7, 2011 3:23 PM EST reply actions  

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