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The Linc - Eagles Have Wrong Kind Of Fight In Them

Eagles coaches fight on sideline during game
In the first half of the Eagles' 38-20 loss to the Patriots, defensive line coach Jim Washburn and offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg got into a brief but heated verbal exchange on the sideline. The exchange actually happened early, when the Eagles still held a lead. While it was brief, the two had to be separated by Eagles sideline personnel.

Apathy is best anti-Reid weapon | Philadelphia Daily News | 11/27/2011
In the 17 years that I've been in Philadelphia, I've seen Eagles fans leave a game early when the cause seemed to be lost, but I don't ever recall them starting a mass exodus with more than 6 minutes left in the third quarter. - John Smallwood

McCoy: thought I'd get more touches | Philadelphia Inquirer | 11/27/2011
LeSean McCoy paused, composed his thoughts. McCoy is one of the Eagles best young talents. He is often honest, but he is also a team player who is careful to say the right things. McCoy, entered this week as the NFL's leading rusher and the Eagles biggest threat. So did he think he would get more than 10 carries? "I thought I'd touch the ball a little bit more," McCoy said. "I don't ever judge the calls. We made some plays downfield early so maybe that was the reason why. We just got down real early."

Wrap-up: Patriots 38, Eagles 20 - NFC East Blog - ESPN
The worst individual performance of the game on offense was that of wide receiver DeSean Jackson, who needed to play big with Michael Vick and Jeremy Maclin out and instead dropped two touchdown passes. Vince Young wasn't throwing the ball so well that he could afford to have receivers dropping the ball, and Jackson's drops were crushing

Brady, Tebow keep on coming through - Stats & Info Blog - ESPN
Brady was awesome over the middle, completing 20 of his 23 attempts for 266 yards and a pair of touchdowns on throws inside the numbers against the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Iggles Blitz " Blog Archive " NE 38, PHI 20, DeSean -11
Okay, picking on one player after a game like this is sorta dumb. I fully admit that. Still, you can’t help but be pissed off at DeSean Jackson after he dropped a pair of TD passes in a game that was close at the time. Those were critical plays. You need star players to deliver in big games. DeSean isn’t the reason we lost, but his sloppy play is a symbol of what’s wrong with this team. Sloppy, mistake-filled football. Lots of talent and potential, but not enough production.



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It's a damn shame...

We Philadelphia Eagle fans don’t deserve this. It’s not just about the money and time we sink into the team, but the emotion and heart; the two things this Eagle team lacks. I haven’t been as long a supporter as some others have been, and haven’t really experienced a “down” year.

But after seeing the same problems crop up year in year out without any sort of solution(s) being made to solve the problem(s), it really questions whether or not this team is playing to win the big game or playing to win the next big cheque.

It’s tough being a fan of this team. Loaded in most positions except the most important ones: Offensive Coordinator, Defensive Coordinator and a competent Head Coach.

by EaglesForever20 on Nov 28, 2011 7:05 AM EST reply actions  

I first became a fan when we sucked mid 90's

I have forgotten how bad this feels. Acyually this may be worse bc of expectations. Ugh. Terrible Monday for us all. A Drubbing of the giants may only cheer me up marginally

Being an Eagles fan is like being friend-zoned by the girl you love

by TheDtrain on Nov 28, 2011 9:29 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

why andy should be fired

hedging OUR team on the following…

1. A coach for defense, as a favor, in Castillo wanted to be a head coach in this league.
2. An obvious lack of scouting and decision making that leads to terrible drafting
3. believing great d line and outside corners would hide the deficiencies at S/LB
4. Variables- andy does not adjust quickly, and in this age the coach is the war commander. Sometimes they need to make decisions on the fly, sorry andy but you dont always have 2 weeks to prepare for an hour of football.

PHI "We Know Drama"

by DaaaBirdsDaBirds on Nov 28, 2011 8:41 AM EST reply actions  

The sky is falling!

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by ChaosOnion on Nov 28, 2011 9:14 AM EST reply actions  

I am still on the fence with Andy.....

Juan and Marty………no Question,need to go.I never did like marty as a play caller,and juan,while he was ok oline pass protect never got the run blocking schemes down.Mudd is 100 x better as oline coach and juan is total fail at d. Andy can stay IMO as long as we ditch the 2 cancers mentioned above.We also need a better draft day caller.

It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.

the day we only score 3 points with this offense, is the day ill give everyone a dollar haha
by bleedgreen89 on Sep 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions

by JJeaglerooter on Nov 28, 2011 10:23 AM EST reply actions  

How do you keep the guy that hired the two guys you want fired?

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Nov 28, 2011 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Like I said...I am on the fence with Andy.

Somehow ,I don’t know why or how, but I think the plaers respond well to Andy as a coach.And most all agree he brings out the best in Q/b’s. Ok..he hes bad judgement issues,and I think Marty does most of the play calling.I just have a hard time calling for his head when the players like to play for him, and,except for this year,gives us winning records and a playoff run.Even though he never got all the way.All said…….that fence is ready to crumble.

It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.

the day we only score 3 points with this offense, is the day ill give everyone a dollar haha
by bleedgreen89 on Sep 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions

by JJeaglerooter on Nov 28, 2011 10:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Somehow ,I don’t know why or how, but I think the plaers respond well to Andy as a coach

I’m not sure that is true anymore.

It does seem like the guys still have has back, which is good. But either, they respond to Andy and they all suck, or they aren’t responding anymore.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Nov 28, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

He’s lost the locker room….. thats why he needs to go…everything about his past doesnt matter anymore…he lost them…its over….

Lurie may not fire him, but I hope he quits….he looked like he crying after yesterdays game…..the fans will keep booing him until hes gone…thats just how its gonna go…

Formerly BWestFactor
FLY #7 FLY !

by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 28, 2011 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

And this is where I am at as well. I’ve said before I’ve wanted him gone for a while, so maybe I am biased but at least before the guys were listening to him. That doesn’t seem to be the case anymore.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Nov 28, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Because making personnel decisions is hard.

Eagles: Suck But still. #KeepAndyReid
Flyers: On a nice roll
Phillies: Sigh

by bdawk4ever on Nov 28, 2011 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

As long as Reid is the head coach the play calling will never change.

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Nov 28, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

We had the lead and ran the ball 9 times… Then instead of running for a tenth with Shady we run Chad fucking Hall. This game was hard to watch… Sure VY had 400 yards but we passed it on 1st and 2nd almost every time.

by ieatcrayons on Nov 28, 2011 10:30 AM EST reply actions  

Dear fat ass and dumbass

Why the hell did you not put Asomugha on Wes welker the whole damn game?How fucking hard is it to do that? Wtf, zone coverage is NOT working unless your goal is to lose every game to good teams.
At least during the kotite era we knew it would get better because we would get a new coach. To quote motley crew ( I think) " don’t go away mad ( Reid) just go away."

by Saidrick on Nov 28, 2011 10:37 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Washburn:" We’re up 10 -0 stupid…run the damn fuckin ball….do you not see who is QB on the other side? He’s one of the best EVER…RUN THE GOD DAMN FUCKIN BALL…..use OUR BEST PLAYER….shithead!"

Marty:“Wonderful!”

Formerly BWestFactor
FLY #7 FLY !

by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 28, 2011 11:20 AM EST reply actions  

Oh Please

3-6 Vick would have done better come on. The run been stop for the last 2 games you would have 3 and out with the run – yards.

by Alway Learning on Nov 28, 2011 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Apparently you are not "Alway Learning"

"...has been timed at 4.39 in the 40-yard dash, and owning a 40.5-inch vertical jump and a 440-pound max bench press, 605-pound squat and a power-clean of 374 pounds." Could you imagine what it would be like to have somone like this on your team???? Oh we do??? His name is Bruce Carter??? Hmmmm....... interesting.

by Feeling Blue & Silver on Nov 28, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, I'm a Cowboy fan and I find your perspective ridiculous, I'm surprised more people here aren't eating you for lunch.

Previous two games against the giants and cardinals.

Against the giants Shady rushed 23 times for 113 yards at 4.9 yards per carry. That’s pretty much a 1st down every other carry. (Eagles win)

Game before against the Cardinals carried the ball 14 times for 81 yards at 5.8 YARDS PER CARRY!!!! Of course Eagles lost. The cardinals Beanie Wells rushed 23 times that same game 62 yards at 2.7 yards per carry!!!

You see “Alway”(man that’s funny) it’s not always about how effective you are at running the ball (The Eagles by the way are VERY effective when they run, which is why they were entering the game with mccoy leading the league in rushing.) its about the other team having to watch out for the run. Safties don’t pull up to the line, and don’t get caught on Play action when you don’t run the ball enough. This is pretty straightforward stuff here man. You’ve got the best rushing attack, use it. Period.

"...has been timed at 4.39 in the 40-yard dash, and owning a 40.5-inch vertical jump and a 440-pound max bench press, 605-pound squat and a power-clean of 374 pounds." Could you imagine what it would be like to have somone like this on your team???? Oh we do??? His name is Bruce Carter??? Hmmmm....... interesting.

by Feeling Blue & Silver on Nov 28, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a confession to make because I was against the people saying it. After the first two drives yesterday I was beginning to wonder if I was wrong about telling people that VY should start that they’re crazy, good thing it slowed down after that even though it wasn’t all of VYs fault

by The Legend on Nov 28, 2011 11:31 AM EST reply actions  

VY is improving, theres no doubt. And i think he will get better. He wasnt great yesterday, but he didnt get any help either. I think he’s improved as a pocket passer since his TEN days….but… We need Vick….Vick still has that Xfactor …but with that being said, we need to plan for his successor either in the next draft or the one after that (my vote is next draft)

Formerly BWestFactor
FLY #7 FLY !

by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 28, 2011 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

Vick would have 4 years left on his contract(although I think we can get out after 3 years with little cap penalty) so I would wait although RGIII is tempting to take but we have other needs

by The Legend on Nov 28, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeh but you have to remember that it takes 2-4 years for a QB to be groomed in a system…..especially if new coaches are brought in…so….planning is def needed sooner rather than later

Formerly BWestFactor
FLY #7 FLY !

by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 28, 2011 11:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Not necessarily anymore there’s rookies getting adapted to systems in there rookie years now

by The Legend on Nov 28, 2011 12:07 PM EST up reply actions  

yeh but do we really want that ? Dude we wouldnt even give them a fair chance….any sign of failure would result in immediate “bust” ..boos…

Formerly BWestFactor
FLY #7 FLY !

by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 28, 2011 12:23 PM EST up reply actions  

ShadyMcVickFactor

Shady Vick is 3-6 not 6-3 how in world he any better than VY. With Vick in there with all the catchable ball that were drop he would have lost and got hurted.. VY does not catch ball or play defense.So yes VY was not superman but he play good enough that they could win the game. A facemask not call, where Brady got all the calls.

by Alway Learning on Nov 28, 2011 11:56 AM EST reply actions  

What are you yappin about? You like VY? Fine…good for you…

Formerly BWestFactor
FLY #7 FLY !

by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 28, 2011 12:24 PM EST up reply actions  

What are you yappin about?

How do you need a 3-6 QB You like Vick Fine…….. good for you….
but he loss 6 games and won 3 just saying how much faith you got that Vick the answer.

by Alway Learning on Nov 28, 2011 1:51 PM EST reply actions  

Why do you consistantly

ride VY’s jock? And just because you change your name it doesn’t mean you can hide your true identity, letthegamesbegin. Your constant butchering of the English language and grammar gives you away.

Even cats bleed Eagle green. . .

by The11thLetter on Nov 28, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s letthegamesbegAn. Get it right homie he ain’t never left.

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Nov 28, 2011 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

My bad...

Even cats bleed Eagle green. . .

by The11thLetter on Nov 28, 2011 3:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Really??

I ride Vick’s jock?? For someone who goes by Alway Learning you aren’t very smart. Please show me where and when I’ve done this.

You are consistantly claiming that Young is of a higher caliber QB than Vick and have stated more than once that if Young was the QB he would’ve won all the previous games Philly had lost.

You sir, are an idiot.

Even cats bleed Eagle green. . .

by The11thLetter on Nov 28, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I never said VY would win all the games.

You are consistantly claiming that Young is of a higher caliber QB than Vick and have stated more than once that if Young was the QB he would’ve won all the previous games Philly had lost. YES VY IS A GOOD QB IF YOU SAYING VY THE REASON WE LOST THAT GAME LAST NIGHT THAN SIR YOU ARE A FOOL!!!!!!

by Alway Learning on Nov 28, 2011 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

NO ONE HAS FUCKING SAID THAT EVER YOU DUMB FUCK

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Nov 28, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, do you see that reply button under people’s comments? USE IT.

Eagles: Suck But still. #KeepAndyReid
Flyers: On a nice roll
Phillies: Sigh

by bdawk4ever on Nov 28, 2011 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Vick

did not lose 6 games you jackass. In all but 1 we had the lead going into the 4th quarter. It sure as hell wasn’t Vick that missed all those tackles and played like shit on defense.

Even cats bleed Eagle green. . .

by The11thLetter on Nov 28, 2011 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

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