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What The Broncos Taught Me

The Broncos make me sick, absolutely sick. Why? Because they’re so inferior to the Eagles in terms of talent and yet they have a better record, that’s why. The contrast between the Broncos and Eagles highlights everything that is wrong with the Eagles.

Just to start, look at the decisions they made regarding their coaching staff this offseason. John Fox didn’t hire his old buddies from the Carolina Panthers coaching staff, instead he hired Dennis Allen, the secondary coach from the New Orleans Saints. Some of you might recognize that name, why? Because the Eagles interviewed Dennis Allen.  You also might remember that guy because Sean Payton, one of the best coaches in the NFL, was singing his praises. Somehow, Dennis Allen was good enough for John Fox and Sean Payton, two established NFL coaches but he isn’t good enough for Andy Reid.

So, while Dennis Allen is doing work up in Denver, we’re stuck with Juan Castillo because Andy Reid is intent on creating some bastardized, incestuous team that only promotes from within. Almost all of Andy Reid’s coaching assistants get promoted to position coaches. That, is a flaw. Is it arrogance? It sure looks like it. Or maybe he only wants to work with people he is comfortable with? Still a flaw.

But it doesn’t stop there. The Denver staff is actually using their players effectively and putting them in the best spots to be successful.

Tim Tebow can’t effectively run an offense from the pocket, so they let him run an option offense. This is a perfect example of effectively using the talent you have. He has poor receivers, an offensive line that struggles to pass protect, a powerful option QB, a deep stable of running backs, good blocking full backs and tight ends and an offensive line that is very good at run blocking. So what does John Fox and company do? They put together an offense that plays to their strengths.

Another example of playing players to their strengths is Von Miller. Von Miller was a dynamic pass rusher and athlete at Texas A&M but he was too small to be an on the line defender. Instead of passing on the best player on the board, they drafted him. And now, they move him around the defense, they line him up at linebacker and have him put his hand on the ground on obvious passing situations. Now, Von Miller is the best young defender in the game with 38 tackles, 8 sacks and 2 FF in 10 games. 

Meanwhile in Philadelphia…

Michael Vick breaks his ribs unbeknownst to the coaching staff but it was very apparent that he wasn’t throwing the ball effectively. The Eagles are missing their two best receivers. What does Andy Reid do? He throws the ball and completely ignores LeSean McCoy, the best 4th quarter runner in the game who at that point was leading the NFL in rushing.

Juan Castillo is putting DRC who does not have the route recognition skills or toughness to play the slot in the slot.

Juan Castillo is playing the premier press man corner of our generation in zone coverage, at safety and in the slot.

They started the season by moving Moise Fokou to WLB, moving Jamar Chaney to SLB and started a 4th round rookie at MLB. Fokou had no experience at WLB and Chaney had no experience at SLB.

But what stands out most to me when you compare the two teams is the way these teams are built. The Broncos are filled with team oriented, unselfish players with strong leadership.

The Broncos have Tim Tebow who takes the game into his hands when the game matters most. When a receiver was in the wrong spot against the Jets, he walked up to him and explained where he should’ve been and clapped his hands to tell him to do better next time. Every player on that roster believes in him.

The Broncos have Brian Dawkins and Champ Bailey, two aging hall of fame players with strong leadership qualities. I don’t really feel the need to explain what these two bring to the table. Both are strong veteran presences who know the game and inspire confidence and belief in young players. 

The Broncos have unselfish players all over their roster. You cannot find a player that is as selfish as DeSean Jackson, Michael Vick, Jason Babin, Asante Samuel or Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie on their roster. Their receivers don’t ask for the ball, they’re committed to the team. Their defense plays tough football, they play the run and they don’t freelance.

Meanwhile, Michael Vick mopes off the field with his head hanging down. Tim Tebow heaps praise on everyone imaginable. Michael Vick says you can’t design a defense to stop him. 

The Eagles have no veteran presence that inspires confidence and belief in their young players. Just to make a point here, the vocal leader of the defense last year was Ernie Sims. Ernie. Sims. And now even he is gone. Ernie Sims was the guy in the middle of the pre-game huddle. Ernie Sims was the maniac throwing himself into people and bringing energy to the field. He was terrible but the defense sure could use a guy like him. 

One of the other vocal leaders is Juqua Parker but at this point, how can you take him seriously? He hasn't played, he has been dinged up all season, he is probably the 6th string DE at this point and he was the guy who jumped offsides when the whole stadium knew the Bills weren't going to run a play. 

Jason Babin and Asante Samuel are only in it for themselves. Just look at Jason Babin in run defense, he is a complete one trick pony. He refuses to line up over an offensive tackle. He throws a fit anytime someone suggests the Wide-9 scheme isn’t effective. He is in it for the stats. And Asante Samuel is hanging people out to dry on hunches, he won’t play press coverage and he still won’t defend the run. Both of these players are perfect examples of what is wrong with the Philadelphia eagles. When teams run at the left side of our defense where Jason Babin sees a vast majority of snaps, they average 5.31 yards per carry. That is the second worst mark in the NFL. He has been exposed as a one trick pony and running to his side works almost every time. Meanwhile, Asante Samuel can be blamed for the loss against the Cardinals because of his selfishness according to Tommy Lawlor.

Asante absolutely is to blame. Asante decided to freelance on the play. Rather than sticking with Fitz, Asante hung his teammate out to dry. And the team. Skelton hit Fitz for a gain of 37 and they scored a TD to take the lead.

The Eagles are filled with selfish, egotistical players that are enabled by the softie Andy Reid. Denver is filled with tough guys who just want to win and has a coach that knows how to utilize the talent he is given. Brandon Lloyd of the Broncos started being a diva because he wasn’t getting the ball and the Broncos shipped him off.

Jeremiah Trotter, one of the infamous tough guys of the Andy Reid era hit on a very interesting and valid point. Essentially, he says the Eagles are a business over everything else, that they have a price-tag on all players and the players know it.

Do you think DeSean Jackson is going to give his all when Joe Banner is up in the front office trying to shake him down for all he’s worth? Why would DeSean Jackson sacrifice himself for this team when he knows he could be somewhere else at the drop of a hat because the Eagles franchise doesn’t think he is as valuable as he thinks he is. Why should he sacrifice himself? All he has done is make plays for this franchise but guys like Jason Avant and Brent Celek get paid and the Eagles throw money at Vince Young, Steve Smith, Jarrad Page, Ryan Harris and other useless free agents.

Rumor has it that the Eagles blackballed Omar Gaither because he didn’t bite on the extension they offered him.

A report from Gary Cobb stated that Gaither had turned down a mid-season long term contract extension and that the organization was making him pay for it with less playing time. All sides denied the rumor, but the story persisted to hover around Gaither.

The Eagles let some of the best leaders the Eagles had walk because they didn’t value them. Brian Dawkins, Sheldon Brown, Jon Runyan, Tra Thomas, Lito Sheppard, Michael Lewis, Jeremiah Trotter, Stewart Bradley, Quintin Mikell, Brian Westbrook and Troy Vincent are all striking examples of this.

And Joe Banner is an asshole, look at what he has done and is doing to some of the most dynamic talent we have. He nudged T.O., the best offensive player to ever wear an Eagles uniform, off the edge because he didn’t want to pay him. He ruined Lito Sheppard’s career because he didn’t want to pay him. And now look at what he is doing to DeSean Jackson and Asante Samuel. Meanwhile, the Denver Broncos are more than willing to pay valuable veterans like Brian Dawkins and Champ Bailey. And it shows on the field, the players play harder and they put it all on the field for their team and organization.

Watching the Broncos play only made the Eagles’ flaws that much more apparent. 

1. Joe Banner and Howie Roseman are dehumanizing the players and penny pinching on contracts while they play Madden football up in their offices, failing to account for team chemistry. If you don't think that matters, I don't know what team you're watching. Because the DeSean Jackson I'm seeing this year, the disgruntled guy in the last year of his contract, is not the same guy I saw in other years. And I know that at the very least there are rumblings in the locker room of this because Asante Samuel, the most vocal player on this team came out and said "A couple people upstairs might not want me, but who cares. They probably never played football, it's a business, they run it like a business, so they're going to do what they need to do. So they're upstairs playing with a lot of money, playing a little fantasy football, so they’re doing their thing."  

You can't tell me that knowing you've got a price tag wouldn't make you a little upset. To know that no matter what, you're only worth this much to the franchise and if you disagree, they'll pack your bags for you. If you knew that was happening, would you give your all? 

2. Andy Reid’s stubbornness, he refuses to adjust to the circumstances at hand and he typically avoids bringing people in from the outside. Egotism, stubbornness, complacency etc. etc. Andy Reid has them all. No coach in the NFL has done less with more than Andy Reid in his tenure.

Look at some of his former coaching assistants: Sean McDermott, Rory Segrest, James Urban and Bill Shuey. All 4 of those guys were shown the door this past season. Clearly the promotion of all of Andy's "hand trained" guys wasn't working and yet he was still allowed to promote Juan Castillo to defensive coordinator. Umm... What? You can't tell me that ego didn't play a part in this, that Andy Reid didn't on some level feel more comfortable with the guys he brought up because he was overconfident about his ability to groom these guys and/or thought the way he brought them up was the best way and didn't want to hire any outside guys who wouldn't be as effective as his "hand trained" guys. 

And the game against Arizona was a perfect example of Andy's stubbornness. He has a QB with broken ribs and both of his top two receivers are missing and what does he do? He keeps on throwing the ball. That, is a tragic flaw. When Riley Cooper is seeing extended playing time and you keep throwing the ball despite the fact that you've got the most productive back in the NFL behind you, that is stubbornness. 

3. The selfish players on this roster are a problem; I think you would come to find that very few of these teams put the team above themselves. I'm talking about Jason Babin, Asante Samuel, DeSean Jackson, Michael Vick and other players who aren't playing within the scheme and going out to get theirs and not doing what is best for the team. Former NFL scout Dave Razzanno points out that this is one of the flaws on the team:

They also need to steer clear of ”character” guys. I know WO Desean Jackson has talent but he has always been considered selfish, going back to his days at Cal-Berkeley. RB Lesean McCoy had some history of immaturity as did Free Agent OT Jason Peters. And talented QB Michael Vick was a guy nobody wanted just alittle over a year ago. These are all talented athletes but if you have too many selfish guys on your team it can catch up to you, taking away from team unity when the chips are down.

And the Beat Writers agree: 

It is time for Andy Reid to go:

That was a long time ago now. Reid has let his program drift away from the high-character standards he set early on. He now has a team that plays soft and that seems more interested in contracts than contact. His ship appears rudderless, and there's no one to blame but the captain

Will The Eagles Quit On Reid?:

Veterans such as Samuel and Jason Babin have acquired big reputations and matching paychecks with individualistic play.

4. The lack of leadership on this squad; who on this team can lead? Who will put the team above themselves? Who can inspire confidence in the young players? Last year it was Michael Vick, this year there is nobody who has stepped up. I'm going to refer back to the Jeremiah Trotter interview really quick where he weighed in on the DeSean Jackson contract dispute. Trot said:

"These guys are young and they've got agents to take care of that but that's where you need veteran guys to say "You know what? Listen, just keep playing hard and if you don't get a contract here with Philadelphia you're going to get it somewhere else." I think that's what this team is lacking, it's lacking that type of leadership. I remember going through my situation and Troy Vincent sitting me down and saying "Hey Trot, don't worry about all that. All you have to do is go out and make plays and your game will speak for itself.""

Who on this team will do that? Michael Vick with his 100 million dollar extension in hand? Seems kind of hypocritical, no? It certainly won't be any of the new guys like Nnamdi or Jenkins, they're too new. Brian Dawkins could've done that. Brian Westbrook could've done that. Sheldon Brown could've done that.

We need a house cleaning from the top down; the fish rots at the head. Jeff Lurie needs to grow a pair and fire Andy Reid, Joe Banner and Howie Roseman. But lord knows he won’t do it. But until he does, nothing will ever change with the Philadelphia Eagles, ever.

Look at the gold standard teams in every sport. The Yankees, SteelersPackers, Celtics and Lakers all operate the same way, the opposite of the Eagles. They don’t lowball players, they don’t let valuable veterans walk away and they don’t deal with selfish players. Did the Yankees let Derek Jeter walk? Did the Steelers let Casey Hampton,Aaron SmithJerome Bettis and Hines Ward just leave? Did the Packers deal with Brett Favre’s egotism? Did the Packers dump Donald Driver? Did the Celtics take a steaming dump on their greatest players? Are the Celtics going to get rid of Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen anytime soon and then lowball Rajon Rondo? Are the Lakers going to dump Kobe when he isn’t an all-pro player anymore? Of course not. But the Eagles will let Brian Dawkins, Jeremiah Trotter, Brian Westbrook and Sheldon Brown just walk out the door. And the old Eagles owner did the same thing to Reggie White. 

The Eagles need to change, end of story.

And thinking about all of this just makes me realize how great Jim Johnson was. Not only was he an incredible schemer but he was a respectful and spectacularly effective communicator.

"He was an awesome coach, man. He always inspired guys to go out there and play hard and that's why I liked him. He didn't have to come out there and yell and stuff like that. He would just go out there and talk and have respect for you. So I always enjoyed him. I always miss him. He was an awesome coach." 

Jim Johnson was the reason we were so close so many times, not Andy Reid. Jim Johnson inspired his players to go out and play hard for the team despite Joe Banner. 

The Eagles issues are so much bigger than they appear. Things are only going to get worse if we keep the current status-quo in place. The structure that the Eagles have set up is crashing down and watching Tim Tebow and the Broncos made that sadly apparent. Yes, I realized these things as I watched John Fox, Tim Tebow and the 5-5 Broncos, it’s that bad on the Eagles.

We’re a talented team but bad coaching, demoralized players, selfish players, no leadership, no toughness and little continuity are biting us in the ass. This is a big mess, last year was an anomaly. 

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With all the “rumors” and unproven claims in this post, Mike Florio would be proud.

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by Imp on Nov 18, 2011 3:46 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

You know what? Just for you, I’ll update it some more. Although I should point out how stupid it is to only make judgments on things that are directly told to you and are 100% verifiable facts. Because you know, everything that is true is always 100% verifiable, right?

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by d-jackfan10 on Nov 18, 2011 3:58 AM EST up reply actions  

d-jack

nice post

okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider Stay humble in victory respect all fear none and finish larry soprano

by j-man on Nov 18, 2011 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Great job on this. T. Y. 4 posting it.
Which player are you most disapointed with this yr?
For me it’s Asante was a fav of mine but he has broke my heart this season.
yea the F.O. and Andy messed with him but feel he should have stepped fwd as a leader.

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by hopinpa on Nov 18, 2011 4:19 AM EST reply actions  

D-Jack.....Wow!

Very hard hitting piece on the entire organization. Also very valid point on how the Steelers and Yanks treat their players compared to the Eagles…….

by Rummob on Nov 18, 2011 5:45 AM EST reply actions  

This is great...

Rec’d!

Banner, Roseman and Reid must go.

They are disgusting frauds and pieces of shit as human beings.

God Damn you, Andy Reid.

by EvilBanner on Nov 18, 2011 5:56 AM EST reply actions  

The Eagles let some of the best leaders the Eagles had walk because they didn’t value them. Brian Dawkins, Sheldon Brown, Jon Runyan, Tra Thomas, Lito Sheppard, Michael Lewis, Jeremiah Trotter, Stewart Bradley, Quintin Mikell, Brian Westbrook and Troy Vincent are all striking examples of this

lol runyan, dawkins, thomas, lewis , trotter and vincent were all sooooooo done when we let them walk

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by Joe_D on Nov 18, 2011 6:28 AM EST reply actions  

I’m talking about the first time we let Trot walk, he was 25 and he most assuredly was not on E. And Brian Dawkins has been productive for the Broncos for 3 years, I dare you to go to the Broncos blog and tell them that Dawk has nothing left. They love him just as much as we did. Vincent and Lewis played for 4 more years after we let them walk. Runyan and Thomas were done at that point.

So you’re agreeing with me about Brown, Sheppard, Bradley, Mikell and Westbrook?

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by d-jackfan10 on Nov 18, 2011 6:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Lito was selfish and quit on the team and never recovered even after he played elsewhere. That’s on him. Bradley hasn’t been good since his injury. Mikell got really well paid and we have a stable of talented young safeties (IMO) who just need experience. Westbrook was done here. McCoy had already begun taking over and there wasn’t any real room for Westy.

Brown is the only one I consider to be a mistake letting go. And even then he’s on the downhill.

So yeah. I think you’re totally wrong on this point.

by KCChina on Nov 18, 2011 9:04 AM EST up reply actions  

And why did Lito quit on the team? You know what, I can answer that for you.

I can promise you that having Banner and the team owner publicly question you, knock you down and say you’re not worth it had an affect on Lito.

And seriously, Stewart Bradley wasn’t good after he got hurt? He was most certainly better than what we have now.

We have a young talented group of safeties? Don’t say that too loud. They get burnt like toast far too often. And the only reason we drafted a young safety in Jarrett is because we weren’t going to resign Mikell. Hmm… Veteran leader Mikell or young Jarrett, who do you think is more important?

Westbrook was done here? Yeah, because kicking all time franchise greats to the curb when you don’t need them anymore is acceptable. And you know damn well all the players on the roster have watched Dawk, McNabb, Westy, Sheldon, Runyan, Thomas, Trot and others get treated like scrubs and wonder “Are they going to treat me like that too?”

The point isn’t just about their play on the field, it’s also about the hole they left behind in the locker room and that, is undeniable.

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by d-jackfan10 on Nov 18, 2011 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

You know this is a philosophy of not investing huge amounts of money into players that are on the decline. And it’s one I agree with. We could either hitch to aging vets who do undeniably have a locker room presence, or we can continue to refresh the talent pool and stay younger. Both ways have drawbacks in one you lock up money with vets on the decline. In the other you lose experience and hope the youth is able to mature quickly enough. I think they did a good job. I think that even though they may have overshot the balance on vets to youth, that they tried to correct it a bit this off season. And it didn’t work out. In the end I think that the philosophy was correct even if it wasn’t executed as perfectly as it should have been.

Do you think we should have given Westy a big contract? I don’t think he was ready to be a back-up and I don’t think that the Eagles trusted him to be the started. If Lito was so “affected” by criticism maybe he shouldn’t be in the NFL? He moved on to other teams, if he was good enough why didn’t he play up to his potential there? That’s on him. Its not like Banner’s reaching out with his ghost hand cursing him. Stew hasn’t really done very well this season either, he’s barely seeing the field. I think he’s probably about the same as what we have now. Mikell got paid. I do think that they should have made more of an offer but you can’t pay everyone and still field a whole team. You have to look at the big picture. And yes I believe in our young safeties. They have flaws. They get burnt. But I see talent. And I think they’ll be good in the future… in the right schemes…

It’s not perfect but I think they have the right ideas they simply got too greedy this year and let one too many vets go. Mikell would have made a difference to this Defense, no doubt.

by KCChina on Nov 18, 2011 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

You know, ive seen countless times where people within and outside the organization have said or are proud of “letting guys go right before their decline”. Well we are certainly seeing the ill effects of those decisions now.

People need to understand that talent and top tier production arent always the best things to bet on. Sure some of those players were on the decline, but veteran leadership cannot be undervalued. Look at this team now…. all talent …no leadership…. how the fuck is that better? And what happens when these young punks outgrow their rookie contracts? Oh yeh, we let them walk out the door and let another rookie take his place… great job there… makes plenty of sense…. Cut all veterans out before they “start regressing” … keep drafting 10-12 guys per year, cause you know 12 mediorcre picks are way better than 7 solid ones…. Thats how you build a team!!!

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 18, 2011 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Did you see Lito play against the Chargers on Thurs night football.

He played great. Covered very well and most was able to be physical and tackle the WR right after the catch was made. He looked like a elite corner unlike Nnamdi and Asante.

by HawaiianGreen on Nov 18, 2011 2:35 PM EST up reply actions  

On what grounds..

Do you consider Desean Jackson, Michael Vick, and Asante Samuel to be selfish players?
I agree that DRC has no heart, but I’ve never heard Desean Jackson crying for the ball, and Asante was the leading the team in tackles for a while. Jackson nearly broke his forearm in the Falcons game after chasing down a DL who recovered a fumble and prevented a touchdown.

If Westbrook was forced to play out his entire rookie contract, he would have been angry too. Its not right what they’re doing to Desean so I can see why he’s pissed.

The Eagles messed up letting go of Dawkins, Sheldon Brown, Stewart Bradley, and Mikell, but the rest were done.

by eagledelphian on Nov 18, 2011 7:08 AM EST reply actions  

I'd say the interception play that has been replayed a lot where D Jackson just falls to the ground instead of running down

the guy that intercepted (vs Cardinals) is an example of his selfishness.

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by Philinwood on Nov 18, 2011 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

are you refering to the play where he was about get wrecked by 3 defenders?
yep, getting your 175lb frame wrecked by 3 guys for no reason is a very smart football play.

by Labah on Nov 21, 2011 4:15 AM EST up reply actions  

A fine piece. A few small points of contention, but nothing worth arguing over.
“The fish rots at the head,” pretty much sums up the situation.

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
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by KByars on Nov 18, 2011 7:21 AM EST reply actions  

This is pretty much my take as well

I don’t agree 100% but who ever does. There’s definitely nothing in there worth quibbling over.

Go Eagles!

by MRPH on Nov 18, 2011 7:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I think its funny that

When Asante’s hunches work and get picks (which he was brought here to get) everyone loves him. But when it fails he is just a selfish fuck

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by Udalango on Nov 18, 2011 9:38 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Either way he is selfish.

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by d-jackfan10 on Nov 18, 2011 9:42 AM EST up reply actions  

For doing what we wanted him for?

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by Udalango on Nov 18, 2011 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

We wanted him to sell out the safety help?

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by d-jackfan10 on Nov 18, 2011 9:50 AM EST up reply actions  

We wanted him to make picks

Like Udalango said, when he does that everybody loves him. If we had won this game, none of this would have been written. We are about as fickle and vaccilating of a fanbase as they come but if the coin had flipped the other way and we won, no one would be criticizing a damn thing.

I see your points, but we as fans only know a small percentage of the inside of how this business works. Players will walk if they think they will receive more money elsewhere so its not necessarily always on the team turning their back on them. A lot of this said as if you have explicit knowledge of the situation but you really only know as much as everybody else does. I get what you are trying to do, but to speak with such affirmation smacks of incredible bias of just being a pissed off fan.

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I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7

by TricksterG on Nov 18, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

But we didn't win

Instead, we lost to the Cardinals. At home.

Because we don’t know how to run the damn ball.

by cwel87 on Nov 18, 2011 10:40 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Lol and thats asantes selfish ass fault

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Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger. -Glen Cook The Black Company

by Udalango on Nov 18, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

don't get but hurt about Asante

He is what he is, we all knew this. I thought we knew this about NA as well, but our coaching seriously sucks ass to the point of making great players (NA, Asante) into moderate players.

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by the-vet on Nov 18, 2011 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

Joke homie learn it

"There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail, should we fall, we will know that we have lived.--"Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger. -Glen Cook The Black Company

by Udalango on Nov 18, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

i know asante is playing ass this year

but I just disaggreed with the selfish thing

"There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail, should we fall, we will know that we have lived.--"Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger. -Glen Cook The Black Company

by Udalango on Nov 18, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I think that can go for everybody

The whole team is playing like ass. Losing to the Cards at home was the death knell for this team. I thought that was a win in the bag but amazingly we pulled off an incredible loss.

If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill

I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7

by TricksterG on Nov 18, 2011 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah

Andy Reid run the God damn ball now lord tebow will kill me

okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider Stay humble in victory respect all fear none and finish larry soprano

by j-man on Nov 18, 2011 11:03 PM EST up reply actions  

this is a really good post

puts all my frustrations into words. great post

LeSean McCoy is the best thing to hit Philadelphia since Ben Franklin

by griffeagles on Nov 18, 2011 10:15 AM EST reply actions  

Very good post, very good points

1) Juan Castillo clearly has no idea how to coach defense
2) Why didn’t that stop Andy Reid from hiring him?
3) With all this talent, something is clearly wrong internally
4) That sucks, because the Eagles really do have a boatload of talent
5) The Broncos are 5-5 and the Eagles are 3-6. Anyone who thinks this ship will right itself needs to re-evaluate how they analyze football.

by cwel87 on Nov 18, 2011 10:39 AM EST reply actions  

3) With all this talent, something is clearly wrong internally

This is what it really comes down to. Is there not enough push for accountability from the HC? I think a lot of the key players (Vick, Jenkins, NA, even Babin) are probably shaking their head and wondering what the hell is going on. Not so much in the we dont care attitude but suprised that they have fallen this far. That is the exact time that you need a leader (the HC) to come in and push them onward. Granted, I have no clue as to what is said after a loss to the players but I just dont feel like AR and Co are motivating the players and are just floundering when it comes down to it. Is AR that suprised that Castillo is that terrible? Is he getting ready to give him the boot and is already looking to next year?

If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill

I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7

by TricksterG on Nov 18, 2011 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Great post

Like we all have said, COACHING! AR is just flat out bloated by his ignorance. I think we can also learn from the jets as well. If we keep andy, i wouldnt be apposed to bring in a huge named DC to light some fire under his ass like Ryan

Stats won't get you in the playoffs. Winning will get you in the playoffs
-Michael Vick-

by the-vet on Nov 18, 2011 10:40 AM EST reply actions  

We think about how stupid the play calling is, and wonder why they don’t run the ball more. Honestly at some points I wonder how it must feel to be a QB on an offense where the game plan is so flawed. I mean, we all see that some of the shit they try to pull off is ridiculous. How must it feel as an offense to have to try to constantly polish Reids turds. How must it feel to know what you and your team mates are capable of just to be limited by his play calling. Vick would go nuts on that Denver offense with just 1 reliable receiver. Instead he is here. Instead of saying this is what we have, let’s make it work, they say.. we pay you very well to do what we want u to. Go do it. Most mobile QB in history getting trained to be Peyton Manning. If you want him to lead your offense, put him in position to win. Trying to be someone you aren’t puts a lot of pressure on a person.

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by EaglesandRavensFan on Nov 18, 2011 10:50 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah that "team" mentality the broncos have is pretty awesome to see

You know what isnt?
The fact that the second something goes wrong on offense, Vick hangs his head.

by WarGeist on Nov 18, 2011 11:04 AM EST reply actions  

Seriously?

When did this happen?

But really? People hated on McNabb cause he laughed shit off, Now Vick comes in and hangs his head, we have no idea what he is thinking and thats wrong too. What do you want. him to be mad and screaming at people?

I can see it now that will happen and everyone will be all “Ugh stop yelling at peep QB you arent playing good either!”

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Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger. -Glen Cook The Black Company

by Udalango on Nov 18, 2011 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Spot on Uda

I find it ridiculous that people assume what is going on through the players heads. I find it laughable really.

I can see it now that will happen and everyone will be all "Ugh stop yelling at peep QB you arent playing good either!"

Haha, so effing true.

If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill

I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7

by TricksterG on Nov 18, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Alright, you're the leader of your offense and you throw a pick.

You don’t go to the sideline with your head down like the games over. I see Vick sitting on the sidelines more and more with his head down than he does talking to other players, giving advice and being a leader.

I don’t want him to throw shit fits, I don’t want him to lose his mind on the sideline, I want him to stop sulking after every last thing that goes wrong.

by WarGeist on Nov 18, 2011 11:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Alright, you’re the leader of your offense and you throw a pick.

Yup I go making jokes and laughing around because, surprise, people handle shit diff. I know if im stressed and not laughing im going to continue playing bad.
Maybe Vick is trying to destress himself YOU DONY KNOW I dont either so im not judging him.

"There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail, should we fall, we will know that we have lived.--"Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger. -Glen Cook The Black Company

by Udalango on Nov 18, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Hey, man, I'm not gonna argue about what I see

but I’ve never been on a team nor seen a team where my/a QB hung his head in the first quarter cause he threw a pick or failed to convert as if the game was over.

I don’t know whats running through his head, you’re right, but if you’re a leader, act like a leader and have a short term memory. Thats what gets you through the game. Drop an easy pass? Forget about it. Make the grab by any means next time. Fumble the ball? Forget about it, clutch for dear life next carry. Throw an interception? Forget about it, make the play next time.

by WarGeist on Nov 18, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

This kind of stuff is bull

It’s the same thing that people say about Eli’s facial expressions.

No one should care

Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
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Stop→Slow→Truck (he shifts into that when its time to carry 4 defenders for another 4 yards)→LEAP!
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by Willgfass on Nov 18, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions  

uda

fans want to win pure and simple

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by j-man on Nov 18, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

and

whatever gets the win is justified in the fans’ eyes. If it worked, it works.
Anything that fails to get the win (or that causes a loss) is automatically a stupid idea.

French fries are really Belgian, sausages and bagels have the same amount of protein, two countries' names mean "turkey", and Santa Claus was invented by the Coca-Cola company. Is life weird or what?

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by Rabbit T on Nov 19, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Looking at what many claim to be Reid’s core of coaching expertise "developing QBs
1. Mcnabb, left here with what 11yrs of Reids tutoring and looked really bad. The “rumor” of him being lazy and a goof off during practice n prep came to light for me when I saw him on the side line of a Vikings pre season game just actin a fool, not even watching the game. You think he would have been attached to the coord’s hip learning the offense instead of telling jokes n generally screwin off.
2. Kolb, Not exactly setting the world on fire.
3. Vick, Looks like he is really having a hard time improving or at least holding steady from last yrs run.

I like all of these guys and wish them the best but it’s getting painful to look at our team without the rose colored glasses on.

And would a new head coach be enough to move fwd or just a start with more new faces needed in F.O.?

You kids and your InterWebNet VooDoo......Scary

by hopinpa on Nov 18, 2011 11:36 AM EST reply actions  

Just a very disappointing season

Coaches are completely clueless. Receivers can’t catch a cold, defense cant stop a cold, and our best player doesnt get the ball.

Whos your Daddy?

by Memstyle on Nov 18, 2011 11:45 AM EST reply actions  

I gave this a rec

I had the same thoughts last night watching the game, it was hard explaining to my kids that one of my all time favorite EAGLES was playing (well) for a different team. I cannot understand it how can they?

I’ve been a AR supporter/defender since he’s been here, but the same repeated mistakes year after year have me fed up with this “team”

by #12 on Nov 18, 2011 11:49 AM EST reply actions  

WOW.

Excellent write up d-jack. Rec’d for the quality and the insightfulness.

Usually when things look this bad it points to a win in the next game. I am now officially worried.

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NYG 23 PHI 21

by tommy d. on Nov 18, 2011 11:52 AM EST reply actions  

Exactly

Giants are going down hard… watch out.

We're playing all our games on the road this year.

- Jason Avant

by Eagladelphia on Nov 19, 2011 1:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I dont get how Reid only hires internally

when the Special teams Coord, Dline coach, oline coach were all brought from different teams. Plus our OC has coached numerous other places before coming here. I’ll give you Castillo, but we have brought in other coaches from other teams.

by Mike Will is DoubleDown on Nov 18, 2011 12:05 PM EST reply actions  

+10000

If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill

I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7

by TricksterG on Nov 18, 2011 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

+20000

"There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail, should we fall, we will know that we have lived.--"Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger. -Glen Cook The Black Company

by Udalango on Nov 18, 2011 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Thank you, sir. My day can always use a good Dragon Ball Z reference.

In 5 years, I want De'Anthony Thomas on this football team.

by IwantVick on Nov 19, 2011 3:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Click Click Boom

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by macjack09 on Nov 18, 2011 6:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Since the Broncos signed Brian Dawkins, they are 17-23 and have not made the playoffs.

Dont think the claim here is that the Broncos are a staple organization. (look no further then the QB position the last 3 yrs) More that they picked up a great player wit plenty in da tank. physically n mentally..

I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.

Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..

by Troy O on Nov 18, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m not trying to claim the Broncos are stable or unstable. I’m just noting their record since signing Dawk isn’t very good. And I wouldn’t say Dawk had “plenty in the tank”. He certainly had enough left to put together a solid ‘09 season. But he’s fallen off a cliff the last two years, and he’s not really proving to be worth the investment.

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

by alcatraz0109 on Nov 20, 2011 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

So so true.

The ONLY thing I’ll give the Bronco’s credit for is they’ve been able to put together game winning drives. The Eagles haven’t been able to do that. Either because of bad luck or stupid mental mistakes.

For the Love of the Game

Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!

MonSTARZ forever!

by ForTheLove on Nov 18, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

All that you say might be true but you’re missing the bigger point he’s making about the Eagles organization as a whole…

We're playing all our games on the road this year.

- Jason Avant

by Eagladelphia on Nov 19, 2011 1:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Wow. Good stuff.

Eagles... :(

by Kevin M. on Nov 19, 2011 2:15 AM EST up reply actions  

The word "shakedown" is particularly well-used here

Banner and Roseman are the schoolyard bullies who basically push the young players around and force them to take subpar contracts or get blackballed. They are disgusting.

God Damn you, Andy Reid.

by EvilBanner on Nov 19, 2011 8:10 AM EST up reply actions  

And my favorite part of his post...

…was how he ignored clowns like McDermott and Seagrest as if they didn’t happen. Because if he had included them, it would ruin his apologist “point.”

God Damn you, Andy Reid.

by EvilBanner on Nov 19, 2011 8:16 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You two are so cute together.

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

by alcatraz0109 on Nov 20, 2011 1:26 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You really dont remember how mad people were at this?
Who cares if McNabb laughed?

"There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail, should we fall, we will know that we have lived.--"Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger. -Glen Cook The Black Company

by Udalango on Nov 19, 2011 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I do. But I don’t so it is unfair and abusive to use it as an argument against me. Not to mention that it was a false analogy.

The Curse of Lombardi
#TeamFireAndyReid
"Stats are for fantasy and losers. Winning is an attitude."

by d-jackfan10 on Nov 19, 2011 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Its the exact same.
What kind of message does that send to his teammates on offense? Not a positive one. And what do you think the defense thinks? They can’t be thinking that he if they make a stop or make a mistake that he is a guy who can go out and compensate or drive them down the field for a win. Michael VIck looks defeated.

100% speculation. You have no idea what any of the players are thinking.

"There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail, should we fall, we will know that we have lived.--"Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger. -Glen Cook The Black Company

by Udalango on Nov 19, 2011 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh please, if the guy who is supposed to be your leader mopes all around you know just as well as I do that has an effect on people.

The Curse of Lombardi
#TeamFireAndyReid
"Stats are for fantasy and losers. Winning is an attitude."

by d-jackfan10 on Nov 19, 2011 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Prove to me without a doubt that he is moping and ill buy it

good luck getting to the sideline homie

"There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail, should we fall, we will know that we have lived.--"Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger. -Glen Cook The Black Company

by Udalango on Nov 19, 2011 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

2011 Michael Vick

The Curse of Lombardi
#TeamFireAndyReid
"Stats are for fantasy and losers. Winning is an attitude."

by d-jackfan10 on Nov 19, 2011 5:06 PM EST up reply actions  

useless pictures are fun!

"There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail, should we fall, we will know that we have lived.--"Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger. -Glen Cook The Black Company

by Udalango on Nov 19, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Yes, they are.

The Curse of Lombardi
#TeamFireAndyReid
"Stats are for fantasy and losers. Winning is an attitude."

by d-jackfan10 on Nov 19, 2011 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Actually dont bother you're right. Look at these mopey mutha fuckas




Not really moping here but THIS is the best leadership ive seen in years

Get your head up Peyton!!! Head down is bad leadership!

Jay is a baby Jay is a Baby!

Didnt seem to hold these teams back to have pouty quarterbacks. When you get your sports psych degree maybe these claims that he is mopey will matter more than they do now. Unless you got one of those hearing dish device things that goes through tvs in which case your a billionaire or an alien. buy the team your self

"There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail, should we fall, we will know that we have lived.--"Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger. -Glen Cook The Black Company

by Udalango on Nov 19, 2011 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Skadoosh!

If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill

I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7

by TricksterG on Nov 21, 2011 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Rec

Seriously this needs to be front paged!

by HawaiianGreen on Nov 18, 2011 2:39 PM EST reply actions  

Wait what?
This is a big mess, last year was an anomaly.

2006- 10-6
2007- 8-8
2008 9-7
2009 11-5
2010 10-6

You are smarter than this Djack. Are you being sensationalist on purpose?

"There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail, should we fall, we will know that we have lived.--"Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger. -Glen Cook The Black Company

by Udalango on Nov 18, 2011 3:26 PM EST reply actions  

Well 2010 was a rebuilding year with Kolb and all…

"Public school math has gotten bad the last couple of years huh?" - SGT Steve.
Yep, graduated from college and made the dumbest math mistake ever. I am a failure.

by BIBTD on Nov 18, 2011 3:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I do know what that means. Look at 2009 and 2010, what happened between those years? We rebuilt and there was almost no drop in play, now Michael Vick and a bunch of the young players have regressed. Thus it would appear that 2010 is an anomaly.

The Curse of Lombardi
#TeamFireAndyReid
"Stats are for fantasy and losers. Winning is an attitude."

by d-jackfan10 on Nov 18, 2011 7:35 PM EST up reply actions  

How? That record doesnt look out of place in that line up.

our probable record for this year will though. We are normally around 10 wins. GASP 10 wins in 2010 seems like something is around the norm. Second GASP you mean that isnt an anomaly?! Well fuck me sideways

"There is no struggle too vast, no odds too overwhelming, for even should we fail, should we fall, we will know that we have lived.--"Anomander Rake, Son of Darkness
Evil is relative…You can’t hang a sign on it. You can’t touch it or taste it or cut it with a sword. Evil depends on where you are standing, pointing your indicting finger. -Glen Cook The Black Company

by Udalango on Nov 18, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Great Write (ONE OF THE BEST I'VE READ ON THIS SIGHT) BUT...

Fire Howie Roseman? FUNNY, not one Eagle fan siad this when he “GREW A PAIR” and signed what we thought were ALL the good FA. Dont forget he tried to steal Doug Free from Dallas and tried to sign Sproles. We ALL wanted Namdi, DRC AND a second rounder for Kolb is still a GREAT DEAL (Kolb SUCKS). I, even at the time wanted Edwards over Babin though. We could have went after Tullock a little more aggressive and two rookie kickers is never a good thing. Besides that I LIKE HOWIE.
FORE ANDY REID. FIRE ANDY REID. FIRE ANDY REID!!!!!!!!!!
GIVE SHADY THE FUCKING BALL!!!!!!

by ProfileEnt on Nov 18, 2011 3:42 PM EST reply actions  

Joe Banner and Howie Roseman are dehumanizing the players and penny pinching on contracts

I have been saying this all along. Fuck those assholes. And fire andy reid.

God Damn you, Andy Reid.

by EvilBanner on Nov 18, 2011 6:11 PM EST reply actions  

Great stuff D-jack. Great stuff.

Rec’d.

Eagles... :)

by Kevin M. on Nov 18, 2011 6:12 PM EST reply actions  

I dont agree with all of it.

But well written.

Eagles... :)

by Kevin M. on Nov 18, 2011 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I do agree with all of it.

And I’d rec it again if I could

God Damn you, Andy Reid.

by EvilBanner on Nov 18, 2011 7:52 PM EST up reply actions  

We know YOU agree with all of it EB. ahah

Eagles... :(

by Kevin M. on Nov 19, 2011 2:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't be so negative

It’s good that you’re finally waking up to this fact about the Eagles, but this is old news, but better late then never D Jackfan. I still say that you gotta keep your head in the game, we do have a game coming up against the Giants, this can wait till the off season. My focus is on this next game, until this team is officially eliminated, I’d stay away from all this talk. I know you’ve had an epiphany recently and feel like sharing it, but there are still games to be played. Even if they lose this week, during the season, as long as the players don’t quit, the focus should be on the games. But like the passion, just direct it towards the actual upcoming game. What are your thoughts on the Giants game coming up ??

We're playing all our games on the road this year.

- Jason Avant

by Eagladelphia on Nov 19, 2011 1:14 AM EST reply actions  

Brain: We get smashed
Gut: I got roasted the last time I gave up so probably a win since the football gods are cruel.

The Curse of Lombardi
#TeamFireAndyReid
"Stats are for fantasy and losers. Winning is an attitude."

by d-jackfan10 on Nov 19, 2011 1:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I know, I’m thinking the same thing, they have been really unpredictable this year in regards to their wins and losses. It really depends on which team shows up, the good Eagles or the bad Eagles, if the good Eagles show up then this should be a win, but if they’re still playing without heart and focus then it’s all over, but I think they rebound this week with a nice win with Vince Young starting (as of now), let the Vince Young for starter talk begin if he somehow manages to play a good game… The offense should be okay, it really depends on the defense and the genius (or lack thereof) of Castillo. I can’t bear to watch another game with cb’s looking lost, but at least we’ll have an actual slot corner playing the position this week, that’ll be refreshing, and the Giants are without Bradshaw, this should be a win if the Eagles can manage not to shoot themselves in the balls again….

We're playing all our games on the road this year.

- Jason Avant

by Eagladelphia on Nov 19, 2011 1:51 AM EST up reply actions  

I think a couple of your points were wrong, but overall I really liked this post. It summarized a lot of my feelings about this team.

In 5 years, I want De'Anthony Thomas on this football team.

by IwantVick on Nov 19, 2011 3:55 PM EST reply actions  

lol

Just a few months ago everyone was gonna give a round of blow jobs to the FO

I'M GONNA TRIP BALLS!!! -Frank Reynolds

by Mapost1 on Nov 19, 2011 4:01 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Thats what im saying...

I was first in line, hahaha. How could anyone really want to fire Howie? The guy makes moves, its not HIS fault the coaches are putting the players in the wrong position, not HIS fault we lead the league in missed tackles or dropped balls. Its not HIS fault Vick looks like a shell of himself from last year. Its not HIS fault we lead the league in 4th quarter collapses(PERIOD)

by ProfileEnt on Nov 19, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

O

This post is so assuming it makes me sick. The broncos are doing this with smoke and mirrors. Give me a break. Sometimes there are not great explanations for a team underachieving in sports. This is one of those instances. I sure wish we could stop all the speculating and opinions based on very little and realize this is the case.

by PhilsForever on Nov 19, 2011 7:23 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions  

o

I'm great like Gatsby.

by Clint Eastwood on Nov 19, 2011 9:20 PM EST reply actions  

Can I say it? I'll say it.

I miss Donovan, and Tra, and Brian, and Jon, and Brian, and Sheldon, and Jeremiah, and the wide receiving corps that shall remain nameless mostly because it was nameless.

Most of all, though, I miss Jim. I honestly believe we’re 7-2 if Jim is around, and maybe 6-3 or 5-4 if we had a competent replacement for him. But we don’t. Instead, we have a defense that hemorrhages yards and points in the second half, and an offensive coordinator that still hasn’t decoded that damned Pandora’s Box that tells one how to run the damn ball.

by cwel87 on Nov 20, 2011 12:09 AM EST reply actions  

Donovan ?? And his receivers ??

Agree with the rest though… what you’re saying is that this team is missing heart and grit that those players had.

We're playing all our games on the road this year.

- Jason Avant

by Eagladelphia on Nov 20, 2011 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Our 2004 team?

We’d be 8-1 and winning the NFC East

by HawaiianGreen on Nov 20, 2011 1:26 AM EST up reply actions  

It's the general sentiment of the team core

But, yes, I do miss Donovan. He’s the starter on my all-time Eagles squad until further notice.

And, unfortunately, that notice appears to be a ways away.

by cwel87 on Nov 20, 2011 8:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, this team hasn’t had enough time to build a team core, it’s more like hired hands, and I also think the players have caught on to how the Eagles handle business and there’s not as much loyalty towards the team after seeing how cut throat they are in the business aspect of things… I think there’s so many issues that contribute to our current problems… but winning cures everything, if they can win the next 2 then everything will change all of a sudden….

We're playing all our games on the road this year.

- Jason Avant

by Eagladelphia on Nov 20, 2011 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Paper talent means shit. SHIT

This blog disgusts me sometimes. It doesn’t matter how “inferior” people think other teams are. How many times do I have to read that the Bears are so overrated, only to have them humiliate us?. Face it: other teams believe they can win, they want to try, they aren’t taking victories for granted just because they line up. They actually want to make an effort when it counts. We don’t. As far as Denver goes, Tebow makes them believe they can win. Vick can’t (at least this year). Stop believing in our myth. It ain’t real. It takes more than talent to win.

by DLawrence55 on Nov 20, 2011 3:29 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

this season is an anomaly

The Eagles have a better record than the Broncos over the span of Reid’s tenure, including each of the past five seasons. If you want to explain why the Broncos have a better record at this point in this season, it might be better to focus on issues that are unique to this season.

Regardless of what the Broncos are doing, the Eagles currently have a lower winning percentage than any full season in Reid’s career. So again it might be better to focus on why this season is different.

by AnotherAndyR on Nov 20, 2011 12:53 PM EST reply actions  

I'll be content with firing Juan and getting a legit D Coord.

It’s so sad that the Eagles are now being compared with a bottom feeder like the Broncos

by eagles2zc on Nov 20, 2011 2:54 PM EST reply actions  

This was an interesting read

A few thoughts of my own:
1- It isn’t very practical to compare two teams as there are far too many variables that are outside of being controlled to allow for a proper examination. It may be fun converation, but it can’t amount to anything more than that.
2- I can see valid points on both sides of the discussion that went on earlier in the thread, and I disagree with some as well. (Not going to regurgitate any of these)
3- The only change I really want to see made this offseason, is to bring in a legitimate DC and defensive staff, including a new DL coach. The offensive playmakers are set and the OL really just needs to become more cohesive unit and I think they will be fine. Running the ball more will also help.

by The Reddgie on Nov 20, 2011 5:25 PM EST reply actions  

one thing I don’t agree with is the letting go of the leaders, I believe they did that at the right time. Maybe they missed on Dawkins but everyone else did nothing after the eagles got rid of them.

by Randy Marsh on Nov 21, 2011 1:29 AM EST reply actions  

TO is the greatest offensive player to ever wear green. What the fuck are u smokin. Sharing that bad crack on an aids infested pipe with EvilBanner. If you read this and don’t like the Eagles so much, why don’t you just remove yourself from this site and go suck “Romo the Homo” dick and see how good you feel. No one should post anything close to that if they were a fan. If this was my site you’d be gone.

by Brotherman on Nov 22, 2011 2:47 AM EST reply actions  

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