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2012 Offseason- New Philosophy & Personnel Changes

 

First off props to djackfan, this post is basically made in the image of his more in-depth postseason, post-Reid era pipe dream.

I’m basically going to lay out for each side of the ball a picture of what key players I think we should bring back & which should be jettisoned, followed by the general scheme I’d like to see on each side of the ball. Players in ancillary roles or that I’m ambivalent about (Owen Schmitt, Brandon Graham) may not get mentioned one way or another.

Offensive Roster

Basically all the skill players should be back except for Vince Young, Steve Smith and unfortunately DeSean Jackson…. Now if things w/the organization can possibly be mended and Jackson’s market value is not above $5-6 million, then I think we should try to keep him around. But if DJax gets offered silly money by someone it’s not worth it to match it.

Obviously re-singing Shady will be priority #1. I actually even think they should bring Ronnie Brown back too. He’s been a good soldier since his idiotic play against the 49ers (put part of that blame on Andy for even calling the play) and while he’s not at the peak of his career he’s familiar with the offense and his body hasn’t taken on much wear and tear this year in limited usage. I think that a big back like him is a great complement to Shady for the type of offense I’d like to see them run.

Offensive Philosophy

This team shouldn’t have a playcalling “philosophy” per se like the current Eagles (pass, pass pass)-- or, at the other end of the spectrum-- the Jets & Broncos (“ground and pound”). The best offenses like the Packers and Saints can beat you many ways, and that’s what we need to win a SB. We should have the athleticism to just be a machine that can dispatch teams in whichever way we please. The key is hiring a coach who will actually read defenses, adjust, and take the path of least resistance. I want to see everything from spread formations, to shotgun, to double-tight end sets, wishbone formations, etc, constantly throwing out different looks and probing the defense for weaknesses.

I actually like Howard Mudd’s concept regarding athletic offensive lineman. As any high school physics grad will tell you, the equation is (Momentum= Mass x Velocity), and this line has shown that slightly smaller players who can run will generate great momentum out in space even against the better defenses in this league. The Redskins and Cowboys have two of the best front 7s in the NFC, and Mudd's o-line totally dominated them both. Would like to see more counters and sweeps as well.

Two of the most dominant and balanced offenses in modern NFL history were spearheaded by the “Mudd style” line: the great Broncos’ lines from the Elway/Terrell Davis Super Bowl years, and the dominant Colts offenses of the past decade.  More athletic lineman are also more durable and better conditioned IMO; they are better suited to hurry-up offenses. Andy Reid’s plodding playcalling pace doesn’t play to these guys’ strengths, but hopefully a new coach could take advantage of this.

I would like to see Michael Vick running a no-huddle attack every now and then. Nothing too convoluted, just give him 4-5 audibles for a given formation (quick pass, deep pass, playaction pass, inside run, outside run) and let him make simple reads on the fly.

Defensive Roster

Get rid of Jason Babin & Juqua Parker. Hopefully the former could be traded for someone nice… Antonio Dixon coming back at DT next year will help greatly in improving the Eagles’ run defense, and Landri has been playing very well in that role too.

Move Jamar Chaney to SAM where he isn’t exposed to interior lineman. Keep Brian Rolle at the WILL, instruct him to do steroids and gain 10-15 pounds in the offseason for his best London Fletcher impression.

Jaiquawn Jarrett and Nate Allen hold it down at the safety spots, with Kurt Coleman and Colt Anderson as steady backups.

Asante is the odd man out at cornerback; trade him if possible or otherwise cut him. This defense needs to be physical and needs to jettison players that lack versatility.  

Move Rogers-Cromartie back outside to form a good bookend combo of lengthy, speedy man-up corners with Asomugha. Hanson stays on as the nickelback. Between the two rookies—Marsh and Hughes—find out their strengths and develop one more as a specialty nickel/dimeback and the other as true cornerback.

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Now, to add the missing pieces with the draft. The Eagles have a whopping 9 picks (?) in 2012 with help needed on defense… all the more reason why we need Andy gone by this time. Unlike some mock drafts I’m not really going to throw out names of players (I’ll leave that to you guys); rather I am ordering their picks by position based on priority/needs.

Early Round 1: Middle Linebacker

- They need a monster here to anchor the D, the total package (Vontaze Burfict?)

Early Round 2: Defensive End

- Would like a guy with good size & strength opposite Cole, and I’d prefer a guy who’s a balanced and disciplined defender rather than a pure pass rusher. Trent Cole is really one of the best run-stopping DEs in the game, but teams simply run away from him because Babin is much easier to attack.

Early Round 2: speed receiver (assuming D-Jax is gone)

- Maclin can beat many corners too, but it’s always good to keep a pure deep threat on board. We should be able to find a steal somewhere here.

Early Round 3: Offensive Guard or Tackle

- Add depth in the trenches

Early Round 4: Linebacker (outside or inside, whichever’s the best left on the board)

Early Round 4: Big, physical, Plaxico-type WR

- I really think that having some bigger targets will greatly enhance Vick’s vision on those crowded crossing patterns. It’s also the one weapon this offense lacks in the redzone. A guy like this would complement Maclin, Avant, and Shady well.

Mid-Round 5: Big & versatile tight end

- Don’t pick him unless he’s at least 6’4”. Bigger targets for Vick! Celek and Harbor are fine, but I really think the Eagles should keep 3 TEs on the roster next year. Double-tight end sets are very hard to defend against—look at the Patriots—and unlike those teams the Eagles actually have an explosive RB that can cause serious damage with extra blockers.

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Then the Eagles have 4 more (?) picks in the 6th and 7th rounds. They should be taking whoever’s the best left on the board at this point, besides safety and WR—positions that are already crowded. Or of course they could trade two or three of these picks to move up a round or two. 

Either way, that's the general direction I'd like to see them go post-Reid.

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i think we should address wr a little earlier in the draft

we definitely need a linebacker, so if we can get an instant stud in the first round then by all means take it. but i think we should draft a reciever before DE (if desean and steve smith are gone). we drafted brandon graham to be that end opposite cole, so we need to give him a chance there now that hes healthy. we need the ultimate package reciever. someone similar to maclin. a big reciever who can get down the field. Alshon Jeffery comes to mind but i have no idea where he would go in the draft

LeSean McCoy is the best thing to hit Philadelphia since Ben Franklin

by griffeagles on Nov 16, 2011 8:44 AM EST reply actions  

Alshon Jeffery is a top ten pick at worst

And it is very possible he is the first WR drafted. I highly doubt the Eagles will be in a position to draft him without trading up

I felt like destroying something beautiful

by drc242 on Nov 16, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn’t touch Jeffrey. Ever heard of a guy named Mike Williams? Jeffrey is his clone.

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by d-jackfan10 on Nov 16, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I was gonna ask which Mike Williams but then I googled Alshon Jeffery to look up his height and then the second search suggestion was “Alshon Jeffery fat.”

by ILL Eagle on Nov 17, 2011 4:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Personnel changes & draft

Interesting post. It won’t happen w/ AR. Eagles drafts in AR era have been fair at best. We have late-rounders starting not b/c they are draft day steals. They start b/c the early-rounders are for the most part busts. Jerome Mcdougal, Freddie Mitchell, Todd Pinkston, L.J. Smith, Shawn Andrews; the list goes on and on. AR is given credit for stockpiling all these draft choices. Trouble is he wastes them on playes who don’t or can’t cut it.

by topcop on Nov 16, 2011 9:27 AM EST reply actions  

Speaking as a science nerd, I think you should change
(Force= Mass x Velocity)

to either (Force = Mass x Acceleration) or (Momentum = Mass x Velocity). The latter being a better measure of how difficult it is to stop an object. But you’ve got the right idea about athletic linemen imo.

Otherwise I like the post, especially the bit about offensive philosophies. We have the talent to beat teams on the ground and through the air in a variety of ways. There’s no reason to predetermine our strategy too much. Unpredictability is your friend.

by davidbt11 on Nov 16, 2011 10:49 AM EST reply actions  

Shit!

My HS physics teacher would kill me if he knew I botched F=MA …

Corrected.

by Kevin888 on Nov 16, 2011 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

just had a test on that today

lol

LeSean McCoy is the best thing to hit Philadelphia since Ben Franklin

by griffeagles on Nov 16, 2011 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice post.

Got me pumped for the draft now…..why is it so far away? It may not matter much if The FO keeps most of its coaches though….they need a new philosophy …

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 16, 2011 11:38 AM EST reply actions  

If Reid is still here it's going to be hard for me to get pumped up this offseason

I’ve been a big supporter of him in the past but after the season I think that the first order of business is he needs to go,

Go Eagles!

by MRPH on Nov 16, 2011 11:57 AM EST up reply actions  

I know...

I feel the same way.

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 16, 2011 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I get home from Afghanistan right around draft time. I’m stoked for a top 10 pick this year.

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by h2o_34_35_44 on Nov 17, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

f. that

resign DeSean

If you can’t, trade Miami a 3rd for B. Marshall

by smeagle on Nov 16, 2011 12:10 PM EST reply actions  

Wouldnt mind Marshall on the team….just not his contract….

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 16, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

no way....

didnt we go down that road already before with a certain receiver??

by goldenbird09 on Nov 16, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Wheres a QB in the draft?

We should invest at least one of our 2nd round picks on a QB (Ryan Tannehill perhaps) or trade back into the end of round 1. Vick is fragile, and as the case will be on Sunday, our snaps are going to be wasted (assuming we don’t end up making the postseason) by giving snaps to players who aren’t going to be our long term answer. I’d much rather have a young QB waiting to take over in a year or two when Vick goes down for good or he just completely regresses, and let him get the extra snaps in.

by Mc5 on Nov 16, 2011 1:36 PM EST reply actions  

whatta bout kellen moore

groom him to come in in about 3 years

LeSean McCoy is the best thing to hit Philadelphia since Ben Franklin

by griffeagles on Nov 16, 2011 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

No, I don’t want a project QB with upside, I want a top QB we can make elite.

by Mc5 on Nov 16, 2011 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

The CFL is that guys’ calling.

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by d-jackfan10 on Nov 16, 2011 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d love for us to trade up and get RGIII and somehow land Manti Te’o or Burfict.

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by Clint Eastwood on Nov 16, 2011 3:49 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That’s definitely possible. I think we could stick at our spot and take a LB, and move back into the first (trading both 2nds, or a 2+3) to grab the 3rd or 4th QB, which would probably be Landry Jones or Robert Griffin. Otherwise I’d keep both 2nds and take Tannehill or Foles, and grab a 2nd LB. I can dream.

by Mc5 on Nov 16, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Eagles trade up from #8 to #2 and draft matt barkley

by con-vick on Nov 16, 2011 5:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Babin's a selfish player

He openly says “I’m looking for sacks”, he is undisciplined and rushes way upfield on running downs and exposes his linebackers to the guy that he should be occupying. When he does try to hold his ground, the OTs in this league can just push him around at will; he’s not big or strong enough and doesn’t have the height to watch the play developing in the backfield.

Yeah Babin has 9 sacks, but besides them he only has 14 tackles through 9 games. That’s atrocious considering that teams run to his side 20+ times per game.

It’s not just Babin though, consider all the DEs Reid has drafted/picked up since JJ died:

Brandon Graham
Daryll Tapp
Victor Abiamiri (IR)
Daniel Teo-Nesheim (CUT)
Phillip Hunt (former CFL player, and a nice story, but…)

All of these guys are 6-foot-nothing and 250-260 pounds. Reid’s pass-first mindset even shows up on the defensive players he drafts; he looks for DEs that are pass rush specialists and all of them are undersized and can’t defend the run. This needs to be addressed if we want to have a good/great defense.

They need to draft another starting DE who’s built more like Trent Cole (6’3" 270lbs)…

by Kevin888 on Nov 17, 2011 6:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Great Post...nice to see someone who is literate

I agree that we need a wide out but again like GRIFFEAGLES suggested, we take a big physical wide-out much earlier than the 4th…I’m thinking either 2nd or 3rd. I’m tired of watching Mike Wallace, Andre Johnson and Calvin Johnson highlights…they are all physical wide-outs and fast too. We don’t need speedy guys to fly by defenders we need ACTUAL WIDE RECEIVERS WHO WILL GO AND GET THE BALL LIKE THE ABOVE MENTIONED.

Definitely think we draft a QB also as well as get rid of Vince Young. My problem with drafting a QB is that how would we ever know if Kafka can be that elite QB? Sure he doesn’t sound like it or look like it but it’s only because we never gave him an opportunity. How do you think they found Max Hall and John Skelton? They didn’t just draft them and baby him along they just threw them both in there and they both produced and did well enough to grab a few wins. I’m all for giving Kafka the number 2 nod next year, he deserves the opportunity. Same goes for Lewis at RB, I think given the opportunity he could do something special and be a good complement to McCoy.

by piffyeagle on Nov 17, 2011 4:30 AM EST reply actions  

I'd love to kill 2 birds with one stone and get a wideout who's big AND a deep threat

But I don’t know if they’ll be able to find one, even in the second round. I would love it if they could though…

Mike Wallace isn’t really big for a wideout, although he is bigger and more physical than DJax.

But yeah, a Calvin Johnson or Andre Johnson would be gold for this team, but both of those guys were top 3 picks… I don’t even think there is anyone in this draft with great height/leaping ability and 4.3-4.4 speed like those guys…

Alshon Jeffery is supposed to be the closest thing to them and is the #1 wideout this year, but he doesn’t have exceptional speed I don’t think. They might be better off drafting two WRs— a pure speed guy in the 2nd round and a big target/possession guy in the 3rd/4th round.

Freaks like AJ and and Megatron only seem to come around every 4-5 years, and this isn’t one of them.

by Kevin888 on Nov 17, 2011 8:44 PM EST up reply actions  

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