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PHILADELPHIA, PA - NOVEMBER 07:  DeSean Jackson #10 of the Philadelphia Eagles catches a pass against the Chicago Bears during the fourth quarter of the game at Lincoln Financial Field on November 7, 2011 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.  (Photo by Nick Laham/Getty Images)

Even though DeSean Jackson missed the meeting he did on Saturday morning, no one knew he's be suspended until just a few hours before the game. So the first chance to get any player reaction was after the game... and reporters asked everyone what they thought. Here's a sampling of the reactions.

LeSean McCoy

"Yeah, you game plan for having one of the most explosive deep threats in the game, it was an absolute shock to hear he wasn't going to be playing."

"With the type of player he is, he plays a big role for this offense. Any player that says we didn't miss him is not being honest."

"We are good friends and he's accountable for everything he does. That is more his situation. He has guys on this team that will do anything for him. I think he knows that he is wrong for it and he's sorry. I am sure he will do anything that will help him get back with this team and play this game"

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Brent Celek

"We just have to pick it up as teammates. We are all professional athletes. DeSean is a great player, of course we want him out there, but he's not out there, we have to pick it up. Obviously, we didn't do that. The Arizona Cardinals beat us."

Jason Avant

"It was different. I haven't been here too many times where a guy is eligible to play that didn't play. I won't blame any game on that. I think that the team had a chance to go out and prove a point and we didn't. We missed them today, but that's still not a reason. We were still in the game and we still had an opportunity to win, but we just found a way to lose again."

Cullen Jenkins

"Teams consist of 53 guys and we didn't have 53 guys today. I'll leave that situation to Coach [Andy] Reid and the coaches, because I'm not aware of all the details. I know we were just a guy short today."

Michael Vick

"I think DeSean and I, we have a special relationship and we talk all the time and sometimes you have situations where you have to just live and learn from these types of experiences. Regardless of the consequences of what happened or the decisions that were made, you know we all have to live with them -- myself, coach [Andy Reid], DeSean -- and just figure out ways to make it right. I think DeSean will do that and coach will and we'll all move forward. We won't focus on that. That had nothing to do with the outcome of this game. We just have to finish as a team."

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That was his rep coming out of Cal

Not a team player and could be selfish. Took a while but a he has lived up to his immature team killing reputation. Exactly why he fell to the second round.

"Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but what you should have accomplished with your ability."
-John Wooden

by eightball on Nov 14, 2011 9:41 AM EST reply actions  

Translation:

Desean Jackson is a royal pain in the ass.

"Public school math has gotten bad the last couple of years huh?" - SGT Steve.
Yep, graduated from college and made the dumbest math mistake ever. I am a failure.

by BIBTD on Nov 14, 2011 9:41 AM EST reply actions  

T.O 2.0

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Nov 14, 2011 9:46 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Are you suggesting bringing TO back :-D

He is available. What hell it can’t get any worse!

"Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but what you should have accomplished with your ability."
-John Wooden

by eightball on Nov 14, 2011 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

T.O + DJax = singularity

"I’m the real macaroni you cheesy b@#$%, I’m demonic with the Kraft" - Eminem

by djthekidd on Nov 14, 2011 11:28 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

TO had 14 TDs for us didnt he? ANd pretty much got us to the SB…..

I like Desean but he is NOT T.O. 2.0, the good or the bad

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 14, 2011 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I’ll give you the TD numbers but T.O. did not get us to the SB considering the team rolled through the playoffs successfully without him.

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"Only the Lord saves more than Bernie..."

by 92-74-99-96 on Nov 14, 2011 1:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeh, I know that….

But you also know that TO was better that year than Djax is for us right now. TO was also worst the next year than Djax is as well….

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 14, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed on both points.

"Fly Eagles fly..."
"Only the Lord saves more than Bernie..."

by 92-74-99-96 on Nov 14, 2011 2:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

sure..

but he was a beast in the super bowl with an injured leg. i was at that game (granted i was in 4th grade) but he left it all on the field, and even though he was a cancer to the team the next year you have to give him credit for that game.

LeSean McCoy is the best thing to hit Philadelphia since Ben Franklin

by griffeagles on Nov 14, 2011 2:40 PM EST up reply actions  

He was great in the SB. But I grow weary of people giving him credit for us getting there. Our biggest mistake in that game was probably not giving him a few more targets. He was lighting up the Pats D.

"Fly Eagles fly..."
"Only the Lord saves more than Bernie..."

by 92-74-99-96 on Nov 14, 2011 4:37 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

This should have never happened

If we had dawkins or some sort of locker room leader here, this would have never had to get to missing a whole game. Players usually will take it on themselves to straighten things out. The fact that Andy had to do this just shows me how out of control this team is at the moment. They don’t believe in the schemes/play calls and who can really blame them? Do you think NA doesn’t want to be matched up on fitz all game?? These are the spots where you take a one dimensional team and destroy them due to your skill set on the other side of the ball.

We lost a chance to be 2 games back of the G men, and have a chance to be one game back after next week. Do I think what Desean did was right? No, but sometimes things do happen. Do I think this was the case, probably not.

Here’s a very interesting point to think about…. We all know that Shady ditched DR as his agent just a week or so ago. Is it possible that this was a planned event one in which he advised shady/jackson to do the same thing. It’s just something to think about. I wouldn’t put it past DR, and I wouldn’t put it past shady, someone that grew up an Eagles fan, to fire DR just on the idea of causing this stir up with the team.
If this was the case, Shady should have took it in his own hands to be a leader and straighten Desean out from the start.

Who thinks this is possible or am I crazy?

Stats won't get you in the playoffs. Winning will get you in the playoffs
-Michael Vick-

by the-vet on Nov 14, 2011 10:01 AM EST reply actions  

Not totally out of the question and like you said, I wouldnt put it past Drew to pull something like that.

"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb

by thePurpleLion on Nov 14, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

No

I don’t think Drew would try to start a two front war with the Eagles FO. I think the TO debacle cut him fairly deep. He learned something from that.

by DLawrence55 on Nov 14, 2011 10:17 AM EST up reply actions  

I dont know about that...

life is about leverage. If he had held DeSean from that meeting in order to send a message to Andy, there really is no leverage with Steve Smith sitting and waiting. If he had LeSean and DeSean to use as leverage, Drew has the upper hand. He would not hesitate to bend the Eagles FO over!

Not saying this is what happened, but it entered my mind yesterday.

"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb

by thePurpleLion on Nov 14, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Umm.

Drew would do anything to see his clients make more money… That’s his job. He and Andy hate each other, how do I know this? Andy told me at a breakfast in 2006. All I can say is once again Andy’s ignorance is on display. Sorry guys, it’s been a great run but it’s time to change it up.

Stats won't get you in the playoffs. Winning will get you in the playoffs
-Michael Vick-

by the-vet on Nov 14, 2011 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

...
Andy told me at a breakfast in 2006.

RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
"WHY IS THIS PINK-HAIRED BITCH A CAR?!"

by Imp on Nov 14, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I know people like to think Dawkins was magical, but the reality is back in 2005, the Eagles did have Dawkins, and these problems did happen. I loved him as a player too. And I bought in on the whole Wolverine thing even though we all totally would have ripped him for it if he was doing that stuff for the Cowboys and pretending to be a cartoon character. But, no, he’s not some magic elixir that would have stopped an immature player with a huge ego from skipping a meeting.

by TMcAllister on Nov 14, 2011 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Desean = Little Kid...

This is what you get when you have a bunch of “your boys” hanger-ons telling you that “you da man dawg” .
Its a damn shame that he has no one in his life to talk some sense into him.

by Gdog2009 on Nov 14, 2011 10:03 AM EST reply actions  

I dont get this attitude towards Desean at all. He’s been a superb professional for this team. And yes, he missed a meeting and got benched for it. But seriously….lots of desean hate.

If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby

by GreenInBaltimore on Nov 14, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

umm ...
He’s been a superb professional for this team.

Maybe in previous years. As far as stats go:
he has only 2 TDs in 9 games, not so superb.
in receiving yards, he is ranked 27th in the league, not so superb.
As far as being “professional” goes, need I remind you of his hold out during an already shortened offseason.

Quite frankly, he has played as good as he is getting paid this year. Dont get me wrong, and dont jump down my throat here, he is more than just a deep threat, he changes the way defenses gameplan, I get that, and he has been more valuable as a decoy this year than as a wide out.

"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb

by thePurpleLion on Nov 14, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

do you pay a decoy #1 WR money?

"Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but what you should have accomplished with your ability."
-John Wooden

by eightball on Nov 14, 2011 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

We might have payed a decoy QB

100 million dollars

ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th

Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT

Shady is the best RB in the NFL not AP
he is the real deal, that dude scares me to death more than anyone on that team besides Vick with time to throw the ball
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by ChiaCrack on Nov 5, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

by EagleEyes on Nov 14, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Ouch!

"I’m the real macaroni you cheesy b@#$%, I’m demonic with the Kraft" - Eminem

by djthekidd on Nov 14, 2011 11:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

QB

He has not played the same as last year but neither has his supporting cast, Maclin dropping & fumbling balls, Avant doing the same, Desean not making the plays,, Only offensive weapon living up to it, is Shady so keep it in his hands,

by DcEagles29 on Nov 14, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

^This

However, I don’t fully support that with all the “drops”. QB’s have to have confidence in their WRs

by Lawdhvmercy on Nov 14, 2011 12:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Being a decoy is VERY important in thie league. Even if that pushes the D back an additional 5 yards….thats huge! And if coverages slide his way…..its HUGE. I just hate how everyone jumps up and down because we need better WR’s, and now we have one, and everyone wants to ship him off….
His numbers may not be gaudy…but Deseasn is a talent that changes things for everyone on both sides of the ball.
RE: The hold out. Yea he held out. But thats the business side of things that often do take that turn. Desean is so far behind on money he should have made in this league….I dont think that changes his professionalism.

If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby

by GreenInBaltimore on Nov 14, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I dont get the three comments to start this thread….
YES, Desean overslept. Yes, thats a problem. But why does this make him such a concer? He screwed up, and he paid for it…but to copare him to TO, to say “we dont want him back,” and to call him a pain in the ass? I dont get it…
And he’s said all the right things about messing up. He apologized and acknowledged the problem.
Seems like everyones taking out their “sourness” on Desean.

If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby

by GreenInBaltimore on Nov 14, 2011 10:04 AM EST reply actions  

I agree

Stats won't get you in the playoffs. Winning will get you in the playoffs
-Michael Vick-

by the-vet on Nov 14, 2011 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

lawlor was got a report from one of his guys with the Eagles that this was not even remotely the first instance of this kind of behavior

by DLawrence55 on Nov 14, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Maybe, and maybe not.

But heres my issue….
Philly wants a #1 WR.
Philly gets a #1 WR.

  1. WR’s are divas.
    Philly hates on their diva.

Its a lose lose….

If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby

by GreenInBaltimore on Nov 14, 2011 10:38 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Maclin?

Maclin can be a #1 WR. Is he a diva? Idon’t think so.

Would we need him and Maclin? Yes I think so. I just hope DJax understands that he’s not alone in the team…

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by FrenchEagles on Nov 14, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

they do not oversleep

They all have people that take care of them. These handlers make it a priority to have their immature children (umm players) to practices, meetings, appearances & games on time.

This was planned. Thus the harsh punishment.

"Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but what you should have accomplished with your ability."
-John Wooden

by eightball on Nov 14, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

yep.

"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb

by thePurpleLion on Nov 14, 2011 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

that is total non-sense. Desean doesnt have an entourage of 10 people. He certainly has his people that he hires to take care of things, but getting him out of bed is highly unlikely to be one of them. These guys are still ultimately responsible for themselves.
This wasnt planned. How does Desean help himself by doing this? By becoming a dick when he’s already having a statistically down year?

If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby

by GreenInBaltimore on Nov 14, 2011 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Sorry to inform you, but I have personal experience that players have “helpers” if you will that are hired by the team, to make sure the players “behave.”

"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb

by thePurpleLion on Nov 14, 2011 10:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Not saying they dont. But that doesnt mean that a player making 600k has an entourage of 20 people 24 hours a day. “Staff” isnt cheap. Desean isnt rich.

If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby

by GreenInBaltimore on Nov 14, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

no, its paid for by the team not the player. Almost like a guidance counselor. They arent always the most effective people in the world.

"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb

by thePurpleLion on Nov 14, 2011 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

And is that person responsible for every single second of “their” players lives? Like, getting to a team meeting? Or do you think that Desean is also responsible for himself?

Desean screwed up. I do not believe it was intentional. And he has already come out and said the same thing…

If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby

by GreenInBaltimore on Nov 14, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

statistically he's

on average with he previous years. just been no big plays and some of the same dropped balls

by astarrcalledj on Nov 14, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

This is all you need to say
This wasnt planned. How does Desean help himself by doing this? By becoming a dick when he’s already having a statistically down year?

No sense in arguing with the know-it-alls who say “they” all have handlers.

Athletes are regular dudes living in an irregular world. They do dumb stuff like oversleep.

A lot of the arguments here are mixing the issues, whether he’s been a professional in the past, whether he’s playing well this year and whether he’s a “number one receiver” — which is honestly the most vague, useless dumbshit term, and yet people will argue to the death over it.

It’s clear he wants a new deal. A lot of guys want to be wanted. He admits its affecting him, perhaps along with some other off-the-field stuff.

I think DeSean has tried his best to be a man about it. He might be Iversonian behind closed doors. That we don’t know, but it appears to be seeping out.

I think the big question is whether the team still wants him back, and whether he’ll be happy & play hard once he gets his loot.

If the reports of the team offering $8M and him wanting $10M are true, not only does that seem like a gap that can be bridged, but we as fans should actually root for DeSean to further submarine his value during this lost season, so we can get him back more affordably.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.

by D3Keith on Nov 14, 2011 8:14 PM EST up reply actions  

This

ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th

Namdey Asomgua sucks.We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT

Shady is the best RB in the NFL not AP
he is the real deal, that dude scares me to death more than anyone on that team besides Vick with time to throw the ball
Bruce Carter+Sean Lee=BRUCE LEE!!!!
by ChiaCrack on Nov 5, 2011 7:50 AM PDT

by EagleEyes on Nov 14, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Correct me if Im wrong,

but wasnt Saturday the deadline for resigning players. I beleive he missed this meeting BECAUSE the deadline came and went, he didnt get a new contract, and was very upset. Andy was not about to let him dictate his role.

That being said, the job of the coach is to make sure he gives his team the best opportunity to win. Maybe he thought he didnt need Jackson to win and wanted to teach him a lesson in humility. Unfortunately, what he did in the big picture, was he let his team fall out of contention for the playoffs (assuming he hadnt done that last week against the Bears).

Poor decision by Desean. Poor decision by Andy.

"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb

by thePurpleLion on Nov 14, 2011 10:06 AM EST reply actions  

No. The deadline was last week and had already passed. This is nothing more than a mistake. Why cant any of you take it for what it is?

If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby

by GreenInBaltimore on Nov 14, 2011 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

There is no deadline for resigning players. The deadline that recently passed was for being able to allocate cap money for an extension to the current year’s cap.

by captain nodar on Nov 14, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

thats what i was refencing. my bad.

If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby

by GreenInBaltimore on Nov 14, 2011 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

Fine him, sit him down. But like Andy has always preached, don’t let locker room things go public. Andy took it public.

Stats won't get you in the playoffs. Winning will get you in the playoffs
-Michael Vick-

by the-vet on Nov 14, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Um, how do you keep secret that a star player is missing?
Fine him, sit him down. But like Andy has always preached, don’t let locker room things go public. Andy took it public.

Fake injury?

The excuse seeped out. Kudos to Andy for not lying about it when asked.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.

by D3Keith on Nov 14, 2011 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Although i agree with the principle of what Andy was doing, i dont think you have him sit the entire game. So i agree that Andy went a little overboard and hurt our chances of winning this game.

If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby

by GreenInBaltimore on Nov 14, 2011 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Killed our chances

completely showed his ignorance once again.

Stats won't get you in the playoffs. Winning will get you in the playoffs
-Michael Vick-

by the-vet on Nov 14, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

yes, he hurt the team by not having him on the feild. The real sad part here is how horrible we were without him. What if he was injured and COULDNT play. What we are that doomed??? I cant think so. I am sorry to say this as an Eagles DIEHARD, but we are what our record says we are. And, furthermore, I cant pick one single person who is at fault here.

"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb

by thePurpleLion on Nov 14, 2011 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

We didn't lose that game because DeSean was out

The team has blown 4 other 4th quarter leads without him. Our secondary has played seriously bad without him. Other receivers have dropped balls. Andy has abandoned the run in many other situations. And Vick with the INTs…

Did him being out change things? Sure. Fact is, they should have scored another two TDs, and had at least one more INT. This game shouldn’t have even been close. DeSean had nothing to do with those things not happening.

by DLawrence55 on Nov 14, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

You are absolutely right.

The only thing that Jackson does that no other player on the offense does, is back the safeties up ridiculously far! Leaves more lanes open for McCoy, and single coverage for other WRs. That is what was missing yesterday.

"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb

by thePurpleLion on Nov 14, 2011 10:31 AM EST up reply actions  

Haters

We all want to blame somebody. Philly loves to hate…but how.much do we really know about what has happened? Only the things the media has spoon fed us. DJax is.under paid…point.blank. How many of you in your careers would ask for a raise get denied and not be upset. His output has.not.matched the expectations, but he still has defenses watching him. Making it easier for Maclin and other recievers. Take him.out and all you have to do it limit Maclin and bring the run blitz.

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by USMCSLB on Nov 14, 2011 10:27 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

are you saying pay a decoy #1 WR money??

"Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but what you should have accomplished with your ability."
-John Wooden

by eightball on Nov 14, 2011 10:33 AM EST up reply actions  

No I never said pay him ELITE money. But 600K? While recievers below his play making skills make 5 times as much?

SEMPER EAGLES!!

by USMCSLB on Nov 14, 2011 10:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I refer you to above …
when DeSean has less than 600 yrds receiving (ranked 27th) and has only 2 TDs (tied for 58th place), what incentive do we have to pay him anything more than what he is earning.

"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb

by thePurpleLion on Nov 14, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

There’s.more to it then the.black.and white statistics. I also believe that a happy player is a better player. On a side note, he has had.some.drops that players who want more $ just should.not drop.

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by USMCSLB on Nov 14, 2011 10:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

That argument is WAY to simplistic

If I were truly underpaid (determined objectively), I’d make my case and ask for a raise. If it got denied, I’d probably be pissed. If I then made it a point to act like a bitch until people noticed I was pissed, I would expect to be disciplined by my boss. Can’t be surpised when that happens. Nor would I expect acting like a bitch to then result in me getting my raise.

But, if I were underpaid, and I thought I deserved $1000 more, but my boss said, nope, you’re only worth $700 more…and I still acted like a bitch? He’s got to punch his weight. And right now, he’s not doing that. And he has to be realistic.

by DLawrence55 on Nov 14, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Someone else will pay what he wants. He just better hope that someone else has a QB with a arm and protection. ( we have.one of those and not the other) He does have to pull his weight but his production is a by product of many variables that are wrong with this team.

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by USMCSLB on Nov 14, 2011 10:56 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

So - he should act like Matt Forte (a professional)

I agree 100% – Jackson is a bitch.

"Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but what you should have accomplished with your ability."
-John Wooden

by eightball on Nov 14, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

HATE on Reid.

He made this public.

He didn’t pay him before the season. He paid VY and SS.

He threw the ball 40+ times when Shady was still being Shady and we had the lead/tied for almost the whole 2nd half.

He promoted Castillo.

I really wish I could change my handle.

Shadynasty!!!

by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Nov 14, 2011 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Retarded

Straight up.

You can’t hide it when one of your star players is inactive for a game.

Further, you’re blaming the coach for the player’s fuck-up.

Look there’s a ton of things you can get at Reid for but mishandling this isn’t one of them. If anything, perhaps he waited too long to come down hard on DJax.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.

by D3Keith on Nov 14, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

First off.

It’s called opinion. Yup, I have one too.

I love when others overlook the rest of the contents of a post

It was Jackson’s fault they didn’t pay him before the season? If you remember they weren’t even attempting to negotiate it before the season regardless of numbers.

Where did I excuse him for missing a team meeting? I didn’t.

Where did I excuse him for his poor play this season? I didn’t.

Who made this public. Reid did.

Who can’t adjust a gameplan mid game. Reid.

Jackson this season. Not playing like a star.

The real star player. Shady McCoy.

Juan Castillo misusing our defense. Reid hired.

D3Keith. Reid homer who sees nothing wrong with anything AR does.

I really wish I could change my handle.

Shadynasty!!!

by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Nov 15, 2011 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

More Fantastic Coaching...

Letting your offense know that your starting WR who stretches the D (despite him not catching those deep balls this year it still does) is out a few hours before game time.

Reid you keep on getting better and better this season.

I really wish I could change my handle.

Shadynasty!!!

by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Nov 14, 2011 10:39 AM EST reply actions  

REC

Agree

SEMPER EAGLES!!

by USMCSLB on Nov 14, 2011 10:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Houdini presumably died this way….

Mayeb Reid will perform his greatest disappearing act soon…

Formerly BWestFactor
FLY #7 FLY !

by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 14, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Can someone tell me why

1. Why did Smith get the start over Avant???

2. Why did we get NA only to play zone d and get burnded. any other coach would’ve went to Juan smacked him and said hello McFlyy anybody home? we spent this money on 24 to do blanket WRs like #11. ( but JC probbaly happy that he has a high moter)

3. (i already know the answer to this but i still have to ask.)
WHY THE HELL DIDN’T WE GIVE THE BALL TO SHADY INTHE 4TH. IS HE NOT ONE OF THE BEST RBs right now???

by astarrcalledj on Nov 14, 2011 10:45 AM EST reply actions  

These are all coaching issues…this is why after every game this season, Andy is saying something akin to “I put the blame on myself” or “We have to do a better job coaching…”

All of these decisions are poorly made coaching moves and IMO it’s time to clean house after this season. We have a coaching staff who doesn’t understand how to utilize some of the most dangerous players in the game and it’s showing. We’re a 3-6 team, who should be 8-1 if we understood how to play football.

"I was the first option on the play and the quarterback made a great throw. I landed on my shoulder and neck and blacked out for a little while, but I'm fine now." - Djacc

by Eagles02 on Nov 14, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

REC.

I really wish I could change my handle.

Shadynasty!!!

by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Nov 14, 2011 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Why?

Because we’re in playoff mode, son!

by DLawrence55 on Nov 14, 2011 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Avant is a comfortable and knows his position.

It would not be wise to take one guy out; take another guy out of position, and put a third guy who hasnt played all season in anywhere. That was the right call. Leave Avant at what he is good at and just fill the empty spot.

"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb

by thePurpleLion on Nov 14, 2011 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

burnded?

Can’t take your post seriously.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.

by D3Keith on Nov 14, 2011 8:19 PM EST up reply actions  

1 Avant is slow and best in the slot.

2 Castillo is a.O Line coach. Nuff said.

3 When has Reid ever used running to win games?

SEMPER EAGLES!!

by USMCSLB on Nov 14, 2011 10:47 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I put Avant right with Smith, its just the systems they went to.

by astarrcalledj on Nov 14, 2011 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Like I said 1 man doesn't make a team!

I had such high hopes for this team this year but its pretty obvious that nobody on this team gives a sh!t. THIS TEAM HAS NO HEART! I’m mad as hell when the players don’t show effort but it seams the people watching the game are the only ones mad. Who yelled at Steve Smith when he laid down 1.5 yards short of the first down? Who tried to fire up the team when the game started to go south? Nobody!!! Just so sad….

by Omnicron on Nov 14, 2011 11:00 AM EST reply actions  

good point, Vick just shook his head and walked to the sideline. There was a few like that, like when vick threw a pass to Celek and he didnt even make an attempt at it. It was second down and it was like, oh well, guess we have another 3rd down situation now. there was little leadership shown this week. No player accountablity, no player that says – cmon man!

Lol, at least TO and McNabb were accountable to each other.

"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb

by thePurpleLion on Nov 14, 2011 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

No doubt

Yeah there were TONS of things wrong with T.O but at least he would call out the players when they weren’t playing well. That sort of thing has negative effects if its done all the time (like in T.Os case) but in moderation if someone was doing that on this team right now I think it would go a long way to help. Too many young players (who don’t speak up) too many vets looking like they don’t care what happens (just collecting their money) too many instances where players are not held accountable. Kinda just want my Eagles to show me they are pissed off and angry and not just say it.

by Omnicron on Nov 14, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

just a bunch of prima donnas

"Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but what you should have accomplished with your ability."
-John Wooden

by eightball on Nov 14, 2011 11:24 AM EST up reply actions  

At least the Flyers are playing good hockey

Football season is OVER!

"Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but what you should have accomplished with your ability."
-John Wooden

by eightball on Nov 14, 2011 11:25 AM EST reply actions  

you know,

As an Eagles fan, I am used to disappointment; used to the constant let downs of losses to teams that are far inferior to us. At the start of this season, I had a different feeling about this team. A completely revamped defensive coaching personell, new defensive players to be excited about… hell even outside players WANTED to play for the Eagles this season because they saw the potential for success. I dont think there has been a bigger disappointment of a team in all of football.

"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb

by thePurpleLion on Nov 14, 2011 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Bringing in a bunch of high priced FA's never works.

Look back through the history of all sports and the common theme is that you can not buy a championship. Winning in sports is about a single unit made up of individuals not just a bunch of individuals.

Think we can dump Nnamdi on Dallas?

"Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but what you should have accomplished with your ability."
-John Wooden

by eightball on Nov 14, 2011 11:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Hell no!

Keep Nnamdi, dump Juan on South Street!

"I’m the real macaroni you cheesy b@#$%, I’m demonic with the Kraft" - Eminem

by djthekidd on Nov 14, 2011 11:41 AM EST up reply actions  

So Rob Byan can use him the way he's supposed to be used?

Great plan! Lets just fire Juan and give Nnamdi at least another season under a real DC.

by DiegoKing on Nov 14, 2011 11:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I say we fire Juan and hire Jeff Fisher as DC.

"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb

by thePurpleLion on Nov 14, 2011 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

Simplistic argument
Bringing in a bunch of high priced FA’s never works.

Accentuating your weaknesses in free agency works much better than ignoring them.

The problem with this team is that it changed schemes/coaches and brought in new players and didn’t have an offseason to all get on the same page.

The weird thing is if they could have patched over the weaknesses by stealing a few of those wins early maybe they’d have grown confident. They’re not an entirely inept team, just terrible at the worst time (4th quarter), therefore, 3-6.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.

by D3Keith on Nov 14, 2011 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

The Miami Heat my disagree :-)

"Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but what you should have accomplished with your ability."
-John Wooden

by eightball on Nov 14, 2011 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

They got to the Finals dude….

We lost to:
49ers
Bills
Cardinals

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 14, 2011 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I disagree

The Eagles are not that good. Who are you comparing to D-Wade and Lebron?

"Don't measure yourself by what you have accomplished, but what you should have accomplished with your ability."
-John Wooden

by eightball on Nov 14, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Im with you dude…im saying that the Heat WERE good and got to the Finals…the Eagles are not, hense they cannot be compared…

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 14, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not just Desean

Asante samuel, Jason Avant, and Desean Jackson are proving that the TEAM on a whole lacks discipline. This team is a mess :-(


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by Philadehlia on Nov 14, 2011 11:50 AM EST reply actions  

This

"I’m the real macaroni you cheesy b@#$%, I’m demonic with the Kraft" - Eminem

by djthekidd on Nov 14, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Reid's PC

is making me cringe like you wouldnt believe….

ps. Vick has broken ribs

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 14, 2011 12:03 PM EST reply actions  

Broke them 2nd play of game…. I guess that explains a bit of his bad playing…

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 14, 2011 12:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Well that makes a little more sense

 on Vick’s playing yesterday.

If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill

I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7

by TricksterG on Nov 14, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you still going to the game on Dec 1st? Man, i have a 4h drive for that game, I paid a lot of $$$ for front row seats to watch this garbage team….debating on even going anymore…..such a disappointment….

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 14, 2011 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

ha

a reporter just called Reid out…saying " You always say that you have to do a better job"….

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 14, 2011 12:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess Fat Bastard had him thrown out.

I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints, the sinners have much more fun. Billy Joel

by uhrsker on Nov 14, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

man

Reid sounds as defeated as ever…. he keeps repeating the same mumbles and cant seem to find any good answers….. which is understandable but…this is evidence that he needs to go…. he’s done…

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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 14, 2011 12:17 PM EST up reply actions  

and on that note at Bastard gets reupped for 5 years

I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints, the sinners have much more fun. Billy Joel

by uhrsker on Nov 14, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Was that Reids response?

Just throw him out ? Wow.

If you are going through hell, keep going-Churchill

I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7

by TricksterG on Nov 14, 2011 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

That guy is going to get called into his Editor’s office as soon as he gets back to work and told he can never attend a presser again.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Nov 14, 2011 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Bullshit

Editors love rabble-rousers. He’ll probably get promoted.

Somebody’s got to ask the questions everyone is thinking.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.

by D3Keith on Nov 14, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Here comes Vince Young to save the season!

Who else is psyched?

Guys?

Guys?

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.

by D3Keith on Nov 14, 2011 8:26 PM EST reply actions  

at least if he starts shady will prob get more carries.

by philly green on Nov 14, 2011 9:41 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

God damn you just went HAM on this post Keith.

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Nov 14, 2011 11:11 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Is there anyone who didn't see this coming?

Jackson isn’t the high-character blue-collar type that everyone appreciates but who thought he was? I knew there would be problems if the Eagles didn’t renegotiate his deal. Did anyone not know that? I don’t blame Desean for this. He’s earned a lot more than he’s made. Forcing him to play out his contract is gonna come back and bite the Eagles.

Next year he’ll probably be a Cowboy or Giant. I’m really gonna hate that. I hope they don’t try to cover him with Jarrett.

by eagledelphian on Nov 18, 2011 3:43 AM EST reply actions  

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