What the team really needs... Top 5
by Joe_D on Nov 13, 2011 8:58 PM EST
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Print1. A REAL DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR!!!!
First off, let me say that EVERYONE has sucked this year, coaches, players, assistances, etc... Everyone has taken a piece of the pie at one point or another, HOWEVER, if this season can be defined by one thing it is the fact we have one of the worst defenses that I have ever seen. Remember when we all thought that everything will be OK under Castilla because a) it couldn't get worse under McDermott and b) there was too much talent to fail? Well we were wrong on both accounts becaus Castillo is off the charts bad, and in a comical way.
Let me explain.
Most defenses are bad because they lack talent in more than a few key areas. They may lack a pass rush, a good secondary, or in our case -- line backers. They are bad no matter what because there is just not enough talent... The Eagles on the other hand HAVE enough talent to be a competent defense See: Dallas game.
The remarakble thing about our high motor amigo Juan Castillo is that we are seeing talent being used wrong -- on purose, game after game.
3rd and long? Put a rookie with his first start on the league's premier WR!!
Have the best press corner in the league? Put him in zone!!!
Have a pro bowl caliber corner? Play him out of position in the slot!
That's not all. Make sure you put a LB on Larry Fitzgerald in the red zone, perhaps one of the BIGGEST mis matches I have ever seen.
But don't worry guys "we're going to get it right."
2. Can we please get a line backer who can play at a high level in the NFL?
You know, someone who weights more than 230 lbs? Someone can run downhill, beat the blocks or plug up the holes in the middle? We haven't seen one since Stewart Bradley, who for some reason thought wasn't worth resigning here. Yes he had some freak injuries, but I don't recall the running game ever being a liability when he started here. How about Trotter? Now there's a guy who owned the middle of the field.
3. Can we get a WR with some size and play making ability?
Fantastic, Maclin and Jackson are great in between the 20's. But how many times are we going to have to run screens or little shovel passes in the red zone to get a TD? Why don't we have a WR who can run a slant, fight for the ball in traffic and win? Or how come we can't get a WR who we can run the fade route to? Can we get one who can win some jump balls? The Cowboys have Dez and Miles, the Giants have Nicks... The Redskins don't count as they have the worst offense in the league. The Eagles have two explosive WRs , but they are pretty much negated in the red zone where the field shrinks and speed isn't a factor.
And no, I have been saying it forever, the answer is not Riley Cooper. He's just not athletic enough to do those types of things I mentioned. I know he has climbed into the hearts of BGNers, but he's simply not all that special.
4. A couple players who can hit?
I know Adrian Wilson is a freak of nature, but wow, that dude can lay the wood AND do it without spearing players with his helmet. Did anyone remember that whiff on Early Doucet by Kurt Coleman? A safety should be knocking a WR directly on his ass, especially with the angle Coleman had. I like Kurt, he plays smart, but he's just not athletically gifted enough t o play the position. That's not his first whiff for a TD either see: Victor Cruz.. Can anyone remember a game or even plays where our defense has PHYSICALLY handed an offense?
5. A new head coach
Wow, I can't believe I am saying this, as I am a big of a Reid supporter as you will find around here, but I'm about ready for Andy to go.
I don't like huge changes mainly because one of Reid's strengths is keeping us contenders year after year as the GM. I fear the days getting a GM that would do something like mortgage the farm for a WR (IE Falcons), or take Tim Tebow in the first round, or trade away a bunch of picks for Mike Mamula, etc... That scares me to death!!!
Truth be told it's time we get ourselves a defensive minded coach. Back to the early 90s we go and let's get ourselves another nasty defense-- someone told me they win championships. I don't know that I know the answer to who should coach this team and how to appoint a new GM that doesn't turn this franchise into the Raiders, Dolphins or even Jerry Jones esque Cowboys..
But we should remember guys like Dawkins, and before Dawkins there was another #20 named Andre "dirty" Waters..Trotter, Williams Thomas (Willie T), Reggie White, Clyde Simmons etc...
Some of you guys won't know any of those guys from the 90s but let me tell you this. They all played with a chip on their shoulder and they would call the 2011 Eagles team a flag football team by their standards. We have built an undersized "finese" team. I don't even know why we even have a weight room at the Nova Care Complex, we are so weak.
This game brought me back....In 1998 I was grounded (I was a young teenager by then) for kicking my little box TV over (I saved all my money for it over the summer) because I watched Jake the Snake throw a game winning TD over Troy Vincent to Frank Sanders. The Cards, no matter how bad, had a knack for doing that..... Now we have a knack for 4th qtr game winning tds every game and Im so immune I wish I was mad enough to even curse at the T.V...But I'm not.
I'm laughing at the small, weak defense led by an O-line coach...How can we even get mad??
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My exact sentiments dude. I can’t even vent anymore….im glad you just did it for me….youre spot on.
Formerly BWestFactor
FLY #7 FLY !
by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 13, 2011 9:05 PM EST reply actions
Im with you Joe on the converted O-line Coach, with this franchise its seems not only are the players out of position so are the coaches
My mojo so dope. BITCH!
"People always call me up and ask me: "Why do you think you can fly?"
"Because I'm an Eagle:)." Randall Cunningham
Like I told Redgie
NA shut down Fitzgerald last year with the same QB at the helm…What does Juan do? He mixes up coverages so the less talented corners end up covering him and the result is 2 tds and a ton of yards…. it’s just soo damn ugly
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
Yeah
I agree on 1-5. Castillo needs to be fired tomorrow and let the secondary coach take over, his insistance with running zone defense after it gets burnt to toast by mediocre offenses is absolutely infuriating.
It's something new every week it seems
I found it great that we made up a couple of blitz plays which I think the team needed..But WTF….You have NA…..a guy who blanketed Fitz last year…Why in the world wouldn’t he try and duplicate that!?
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
It seemed like every play NA wasnt on Fitzz he made a play….
Formerly BWestFactor
FLY #7 FLY !
by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 13, 2011 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
This is pretty good. I would add, #6 Feed McCoy.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
See #5
Formerly BWestFactor
FLY #7 FLY !
by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 13, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Basically
we let their best player beat us (Fitz 7 catches, 140 some yards with 2 tds and he was 1 yard short of a 3rd) and we didn’t give our best player a legitimate chance to win the game for us (40+ called pass plays but Shady only gets 14 carries while averaging 5+ ypc and a couple dumpoff catches coming out of the backfield).
That is the exact opposite of putting your players in a position to succeed. And it is Exhibit A your honor of why a regime change needs to be seriously considered. Castillo should get axed tomorrow, he has used up all of his life lines.
I still put all of that on the players (offensively)
I agree Reid needs to go. but the cowboys game was no different. They didn’t stack the box, they played the big passing game and we ended up running the ball and creating mismatches with their LBs….
the Cards stacked the box, they let us pass, and unlike the cowboys game we didn’t execute…at all..whether it be the WRs not getting open or dropping the balls…or vick missing open targets (or throwing picks), they just didn’t do their jobs
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
How many times
has Shady had a mediocre 3 quarters only to tear it up in the 4th? You have to keep giving him the ball, regardless of if the defense is playing to stop the run.
As the game went on, Vick was showing that he was playing far below his normal level, as was a banged up Maclin and Smith laid an egg in his first significant game action. Given that, they should have been feeding Shady who was on par for continuing the game at his career setting level this year.
im not saying you're not right
because I’m sure the outcome of running shady would’ve been better…i wont deny that either…but andy isn’t wrong either….the cardinals DARED us to pass, and we sucked…that’s not excusable. we should’ve been able to pass on this team without Jackson
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
I understand exactly what you are saying too, I am just trying to state that once they saw that we couldn’t take what the D was giving us with our passing game, they should have said “Fuck it, let’s give Shady a chance to put this game away for us” instead of throwing to a WR who hasn’t played all fucking year because he is recovering from a knee injury and is so out of shape that he was visibly tired and gasping for air during the 4th quarter. That is all I am saying. Had our passing game been working, we probably win this game easily. BUT IT WASN’T and Mr Piggy and Minionwheg need to recognize that and change up their play calling.
Joe...
…do you think we need Andrew Luck?…because we could get him.
Hear me out…
The Colts have remaining on their schedule
Carolina at home—that’s a win
New England away—Loss
Baltimore away—Loss
Tennessee at home—win
Houston at home—win
Jacksonville at home—win
Final record 4-12
Eagles have
At Giants—Loss
Patriots home—Loss
At Seattle—Loss
At Miami—Loss
Jets home—Loss
At Cowboys—Loss
Redskins home—Loss
That’s 3-13.
There is hope.
God Damn you, Andy Reid.
the only problem is
The Colts are 3 games ahead and they have the same plan as you do…
Formerly BWestFactor
FLY #7 FLY !
by ShadyMcVickFactor on Nov 13, 2011 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
We’ll win just enough to fuck up our draft position. We’ll probably win every game after we’re mathematically eliminated.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
No way.
This game taught me that there is no game that Andy Reid cannot lose. 3-13.
God Damn you, Andy Reid.
Colts beating Titans, Texans, Jaguars? You’re joking, right?
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
"WHY IS THIS PINK-HAIRED BITCH A CAR?!"
with leinart in...texans arent that much of a threat...and andre might just decide his fucking hamstring is a little sore so he'll sit out some more games
fuck fantasy football…..
I'M GONNA TRIP BALLS!!! -Frank Reynolds
i think luck is a pipe dream
and i think vick is the least of our worries to be honest…
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
This. Chaney, Fokou, Samuels, DRC …
"Public school math has gotten bad the last couple of years huh?" - SGT Steve.
Yep, graduated from college and made the dumbest math mistake ever. I am a failure.
ASANTE SAMUEL (singular, not plural)
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Nov 13, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The Colts aren’t going to beat Houston, Carolina, or Tennessee. No fucking way. Why get Andrew Luck? Is he going to be our new DC? Is he going to audible to a run play half the time? This team is so bad they’ve pushed you into insanity.
Fly Eagles Fly, on the road to Vicktory!
by KeepSwinging on Nov 14, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
why get Andrew Luck?
because the dude is the next Peyton Manning. That should be reason enough. Can you imagine that if everything goesd the way it is looking? Andrew Luck learning from Peyton Manning. That’s a scary thought.
"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins
"Sometimes you have to kill the one you are with so you can be with someone better" William Shakespeare
"Nothing shows true love like delivering 16 stab wounds to the jugular" Henry Kissinger
by Talon Talent on Nov 14, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
They’re god awful defense will hold them back. See Eagles, Philadelphia.
Fly Eagles Fly, on the road to Vicktory!
by KeepSwinging on Nov 16, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
the colts arent winning any of those games....
LeSean McCoy is the best thing to hit Philadelphia since Ben Franklin
How long is it going to be until we hear something real from Andy??hell even the players.
by rainvillefromottawa on Nov 13, 2011 9:38 PM EST reply actions
From Cullen Jenkins:
"I don’t know what it is we’ve got to or how we’ve got to do it, but we’re too good to be letting all these games getting away like this."
No, Cullen. You are not “too good.” You are on one of the worst 4-5 teams in the NFL. This is the truth. Deal with it.
God Damn you, Andy Reid.
I think he meant
That the Eagles are one of the bottom 4 or 5 teams in the league, he didn’t mean 4-5 was the record
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Make sure you put a 5’9’’ LB on a 6’3" Larry Fitzgerald in the red zone
Fixed.
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
Eli Manning has the personality of a baked potato.
i dont think it wouldve mattered if he was 6'5'' LB
Fitz is going to find the hole in the zone with any LB..
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
It probably wouldn't have.
But c’mon, putting a 5’9’’ dude on him?
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
Eli Manning has the personality of a baked potato.
i think eagles draft qb of the future this year
There will be 3 very good qb’s in the draft this year: luck, landry jones and matt barkley
Eagles probably finish with a top ten draft pick unless they do something stupid at this point like start winning
Colts take luck #1 overall
But all the teams who will pick before the eagles already have young qb’s: vikings, jags, panthers, rams
As long as we have a higher draft pick than the dolphins and seahawks we should take one of the other 2 top qb’s available
by con-vick on Nov 13, 2011 10:39 PM EST via mobile reply actions
#6
we need a leader.. Someone who would have handled this Desean situation without AR having to act like he is making a statement. Let the team handle that stuff and fine him. There is no sense of bond between these guys, I know it might sound corny, but we need a locker room like Remember the Titans. With a coach that will take you by the face mask and tell you to take a seat.
Stats won't get you in the playoffs. Winning will get you in the playoffs
-Michael Vick-
Well said
The team sucks. I didn’t think we turned any sort of corner after the Redskins game, but had a glimmer of hope after the Cowboys romp. Alas, that was an Andy Reid bye week aberration.
This team is not good, and it starts with the defensive coordinator. Fire his ass.
I can't believe
I actually see Joe talking about a new head coach. I’m speechless. Shit really must be bad.
"truTV is like BET for white folks." - Chuck
"Brian Dawkins is always 100% Eagles related."--macjack09 & BGN Nation
I’ve seen some of the most staunch Reid apologists come to the light this season.
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Nov 14, 2011 12:36 AM EST up reply actions
Adding onto that,
Per Les Bowen:
Wow. If @Howardeskin thinks Andy Reid will be gone at the end of the season, I gotta think Andy thinks that as well.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
"WHY IS THIS PINK-HAIRED BITCH A CAR?!"
Agree for the most part
but I hear people wishing for the 90’s and the defensive coach we had back then. Buddy Ryan won zero playoff games.
Cowboys suck.
by stinkypants on Nov 14, 2011 1:01 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
When’s the last playoff game we’ve won…2008…then Reid slowly cleaned house on all the long time veterans and worked in his group and so far it’s gone from bad to worse…to catastrophic! Buddy Ryan may not have won a playoff game but he only had 5 seasons to work with and at least that team was worth rooting for. Steve Smith giving up on 3rd down sums up this team in a nutshell, bunch of gutless selfish individuals more worried about their contracts than each other.
As a cowboys fan
Im a cowboys fan And let me start by saying, I know the feeling… It gets better. The cowboys had all of the same hype and preseason praise last season that was dawned on the eagles this year. If you ask me, I believe it is the coaching. After a certain time, veteran coaches simply have their scheming figured out. That was the case for us with wade Phillips, and I think that’s the case with Andy Reid and castillo
Similar
But no offense man, Vince Young’s dumbass dream team comment killed us. You didn’t have to deal with that at least.
Until we win the Super Bowl, I’m not going to be able to live down the “Dream Team” thing amongst my friends
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Jerry Jones
He was going around talking about being the first team to play the Super Bowl in its own stadium. I think the hype and expectation were about the same. Reading this blog every week reminds me of Blogging the Boys last year. The only difference with our teams is a) we had someone who could step in as a new coach and b) we hired Rob Ryan.
I don’t know why the Eagles didn’t go after him as DC. I still worry that you guys will try to poach him as HC after this year.
"Right after the game, say as little as possible." - Coach Landry
by RisingSunCowboy on Nov 14, 2011 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
One of those rare times we agree
However
How about Trotter? Now there’s a guy who owned the middle of the field.
Don’t give the Eagles that idea again
P.S.
You wanna be the head coach for the Eagles? I heard they hire people with no previous experience at the position ;)
Formerly number5
RIP JJ
# 3
T.O. is available and will be an upgrade from Riley Cooper or Steve Smith and he can be a good role model for Desean having already gone thru that problem with the Eagles….. they should’ve picked up Haynesworth last week despite of another PR hit, he would have played hard for Washburn and would’ve at least taken up some space in the middle. Two controversial players but they would have been more productive then some big name free agents we picked up this past off-season. And at least T.O. would’ve provided some entertainment for the rest of the year, maybe another exercise video, a sideline rift with Vick and definitely some post game histrionics. Now who wouldn’t enjoy that ?
We're playing all our games on the road this year.
- Jason Avant
he can be a good role model for Desean having already gone thru that problem with the Eagles
Now you’re my boy and all but that has to be the most retarded thing that you have ever typed with those fingers of yours.
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
Eli Manning has the personality of a baked potato.
I’m shocked that you missed the humor in that, out of all people, but that was pretty subtle, even the best of them can miss it.
We're playing all our games on the road this year.
- Jason Avant
by Eagladelphia on Nov 15, 2011 5:28 AM EST up reply actions
ha ha
It wouldn’t hurt I guess, at least there would be some entertainment for the rest of the season, and he is still not bad when he gets out there on the field, better then what we have now from 3 to 5 at wr.
We're playing all our games on the road this year.
- Jason Avant
by Eagladelphia on Nov 15, 2011 5:30 AM EST up reply actions
i would rather play Modern Warfare 3
than watch this joke of a team play the Giants Sunday Night.
Crush them, my Birds!!! CRUSH THEM!!!!!!!!!
by EagleDomiNation on Nov 14, 2011 9:55 AM EST reply actions
i'll be going to sleep at 930 like i usually do.
no way in HELL will i be staying up til 12 like id o every prime time game
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
We just need new blood man
Andy has done a great deal for us. But we’re not going to win a SB with him. Hiring Castillo was inexplicable.
And the fact is, he’s an awful in-game manager. You know why we always lose the big game (now we won’t even get to play in a big game but that aside)? He’s an AWFUL in-game coach. Every time we face a tough team, he has a good game plan and the game is close at halftime. But he has never made a halftime adjustment in HIS LIFE.
Sorry Andy. You’ll bounce back on your feet as an analyst or coordinator, and you really were a good coach (I mean there have been PLENTY of awful coaches and Reid should not be dragged in the dirt with them). But it’s time to part ways.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
I agree with all of these except for #5
I know everybody will disagree with this, but Reid isnt the problem. The players are the ones making missing the plays, and he obviously cant be blamed for that. He is an offensive coach, and he made a major mistake in making Juan the defensive coordinator. We always blame Andy when things go wrong, and rightfully so, as he takes all the blame in the press confrences.
At this point im just about ready to move on to next year.
Bryz.
I agree with all of these except for #5
I know everybody will disagree with this, but Reid isnt the problem. The players are the ones making missing the plays, and he obviously cant be blamed for that. He is an offensive coach, and he made a major mistake in making Juan the defensive coordinator. We always blame Andy when things go wrong, and rightfully so, as he takes all the blame in the press confrences.
At this point I’m just about ready to move on to next year.
Bryz.
its truly amazing that castillo has a job
someone remind me – did mcdermott get 2 years? or just 1? either way castillo needs to go. 3rd times the charm
LeSean McCoy is the best thing to hit Philadelphia since Ben Franklin
I think that this one says it most for me.....
Can anyone remember a game or even plays where our defense has PHYSICALLY handed an offense?
Teams are waiting in line to play the Eagles. They do not intimidate anyone. I can’t remember ever seeing an Eagles defense this soft.
Go Eagles!
WOW JOE_D
For the very first time in the history of me reading anything you’ve written….
We agree 10000000000000%.
Nice post, well done. Couldn’t agree more, especially with your examples regarding our hiliariously called defense during the Cards game.
God this team is SAD.
I really wish I could change my handle.
Shadynasty!!!
by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Nov 15, 2011 11:24 AM EST reply actions
Usually if you can't make your points with one exclamation point
I can’t take it seriously. But since it’s you Joe_D, I fux with this post.
3rd and long? Put a rookie with his first start on the league’s premier WR!!
Have the best press corner in the league? Put him in zone!!!
Definitely agree on LB and players who can hit. If we have three high picks, let’s add grit and toughness. Asante can go as far as I’m concerned.
I think though we should carefully consider the coaching changes. Part of the reason this team sucks is nobody’s on the same page, we’ve got a lot of young players who don’t know what they’re doing and not enough older players who do.
Changing the schemes on both sides of the ball and not having an offseason — I think we all thought talent could mask that and turns out it can’t.
If all the close losses have told us one thing, it’s how important knowing what the F you’re doing is. So if our options are getting younger, bringing in more new people and starting over once again, or sticking with the program and building around the core we have — while making necessary changes but not necessarily wholesale ones, I think I might pick the latter.
It sounds silly on the surface to say bring back Reid and Castillo. But I think I’d rather have a team that soundly executes their stuff than another deal that doesn’t know what the hell it is doing.
Remember Herman Boone in Remember the Titans? I’d rather be like that, run okay schemes to perfection rather than run the better schemes of a new coach poorly.
(That said if we can get Jeff Fisher or somebody proven, I’m all for that shit. But otherwise I wonder if more change is just another year we have to wait, and I’m effing tired of waiting)
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
I get this
It sounds silly on the surface to say bring back Reid and Castillo. But I think I’d rather have a team that soundly executes their stuff than another deal that doesn’t know what the hell it is doing.
I wouldn’t say that it sounds silly. That’s the safe, even comfortable move. No one would really fault Lurie for keeping Reid around after having just one bad season.
To your point about having to wait another year, what if we keep Reid for another year, and again no playoffs? We are waiting then, too, because I think that he would definitely be gone then. Either decision (keeping Reid or not) involves risk, IMO. Which is more risk? I get the whole thing about Reid’s record, etc., but honestly I think that he is getting to the point where the possibility of burnout can enter the discussing. I think that this year is really wearing on him. I said it before, it would not surprise me if he stepped down after the season. The one thing that I have noticed is that there are few folks that have been Reid supporters (Joe D for example) that think that maybe it’s time for Reid to go. Hmmm.
For the most part, the Eagles have had a good track record in letting players go before the rapid decline in productivity starts. Could it be that way with Reid.
Go Eagles!
I get that concept
and it’s not so outlandish that if it happened, it would spell certain doom.
But I do think starting all over again is probably the greater risk than rolling the dice and trying to get the next Harbaugh, in the process squandering all of the development under this system.
I’m not one of those people who believes Reid’s style can never win, though I think there’s an argument for that. He does show a propensity to get outcoached in big games and is slow to adjust.
I’m all for being “aggressive” vs. “safe”, I just don’t want to be “stupid” vs. “smart.”
There is definitely validity to either opinion. I guess we’ll see what happens.
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
when is blackmon graduating?
I hate new york.
by XxActionJacksonxX on Nov 17, 2011 7:51 PM EST reply actions
I was watching NFL Network and someone on there said it best about our calls
“Thats what they’ll expect us to do”
Whos your Daddy?
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