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Top 10 Most Disappointing Games in the Reid Era

[Note by JasonB, 11/12/11 12:20 AM EST ] Promoted from fanshots. Joe D takes us down a crappy memory lane.

Not counting the playoff losses, regular season only.

10. November 10th 2002 - Colts 35 - Eagles 13

We had a tremendous defense back in 2002, and even when we lost games , it wasn't by much -- except this blow out. This game didn't have any playoff implications either but it was supposed to be the big show down between the up and coming McNabb and Peyton Manning who at the time was establishing himself as one of the best QBs in the league. In a typical blowout the defense gets smoked and the offense does nothing, which was exactly what happened. With the Eagles sporting a stout 6-2 winning record coming into the game, it really took the wind out of our sails and knocked us down a few pegs. It's just one of those games that really stung and I remember the announcers or maybe it was the paper saying something to the effect of "Not yet McNabb," which was rubbing salt into the wound.

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9. 2004 Pittsburgh Steelers 27- Eagles 3

This game had ZERO playoff implications what so ever, but rookie at the time, Ben Roethlisberger led the charge on offense, which completely schooled our defense. T.O. and McNabb also had their first fight which was plastered all over ESPN. Seeing it was the one "blip" on our magical regular season that year, it probably shouldn't even be on on the top 10 but that game REALLY, REALLY pissed me off. Jerome Bettis, an old bus pretty much ran all over our defense and I think the Steelers ended up with a disgusting amount of yards on the ground that game. Something like 280, the only good thing is it led to the starting of Trotter, and the benching of Mark Simeneou who was clearly not a good MLB in our defense.

8. September 4th 2003 Patriots 31 Eagles 10

As we were trying to erase the craptastic week 1 loss vs the Bucs, the Patriots delivered an even worse ass kicking. At that point, we were out scored 48 to 10 in two games. We were coming off our 2nd championship game and were expected to make another run. McNabb had a pick 6 to Bruschi or maybe it was Vrabel, but the whole game was terrible, the city was up in arms, and we were hitting the panic button. Not only were we 0-2 but we showed no signs of being a playoff team...Luckily we turned the season around but that game was probably the worst regular season game that year because it had us all expecting the worst.

7. September 9th 2007 - Packers 16 - Eagles 13

It was opening day, and I'm sure many here kind of forgot about this game, as it didn't have any playoff implications either....But we lost the game because we didn't have any kick or punt returners. Having muffed 2 punt returns that game, it was one of the frustrating games to watch. It was a poor personnel decision by Reid and the front office to go into the season without a legitimate returner, it really made this loss enormously frustrating. We actually RE SIGNED Reno Mahe within a few days. Either way that whole season was frustrating. McNabb didn't look nearly the same as he did in previous years after coming back from an ACL injury and our offense ended up being REALLY inconsistent. Granted, Kevin Curtis was our #1 WR at the time along with Reggie Brown, the whole season ended up being a mess.

6.Monday November 14th 2005 - Eagles 20 - Cowboys 21

This game hurt because after we started red hot, we got blown out by the Cowboys a few weeks before. We also went on to go 1-3 before the teams played again but this game was particularly bad because it effectively killed our season. Our defense was largely terrible the entire year with no pass rush and this is when T.O. decided to be T.O. I'm pretty sure it was Reggie Browns first start in his place, and oddly enough, Brown flashed some potential even though he dropped a huge ball late in the game. Either way the play that sealed the day was a terrible INT thrown by McNabb to Roy Williams for a pick 6 which also led McNabb to go on IR from a Cowboy block. Which was the theme of the season as 19 players total ended up on the injured reserve.

Does everyone remember our starting skill players that year? Reggie Brown, Greg Lewis, Ryan Moats, LJ Smith and Mike McMahon? Ouch.

5. Sunday Nov 16th 2008 Bengals 13, Eagles 13

At this point, I was calling for Andy Reids head. The play calling was about 90% passes and 10% runs and the offense just looked like CRAP! We actually sported a top 3 defense that  year, but wow was our offense hit or miss. The season outlook at that point was getting bleak, and after we tied the Bengals? Even bleaker. Yea this was the presser where McNabb said "I didn't even know you could tie." And to be honest, what he said didn't even make me mad. What was killing me was all the 3 and outs we were creating, and all the inconsistencies. FYI the Oakland game is interchangeable with this game, but the fact we TIED the Bengals really but an exclamation point on this terrible game.

4. Sunday November 23rd 2008 Eagles 7 - Ravens 36

Not only did our offense look even WORSE than it did against the Bengals our defense was giving up plays left and right. Although, who could really blame the D that game when the offense was on and off the field within the matter of a couple plays. This was the infamous game McNabb got benched in favor of Kolb and started the QB controversy... Not really, as Kolb led the Eagles down the field he threw a pick 6 to Ed Reed in the end zone which ended up tying the longest TD in NFL history. Oddly enough, Howard Eskin convinced me that it wasn't Reid's fault it was the players who were not executing and he did it by going down each play where either one or more players made crucial mistakes. We ended up turning it around the next week to have a fabulous run and made the playoffs by the hair on our chinny chin chins.

3. Sunday December 21st - Redskins 10 - Eagles 3

The 2008 season was the most frustrating season I have ever watched. It was the "wow eagles are awesome," one week and "how are we so bad." the very next.

All we had to do was beat the lowly Redskins and our playoff dreams were about to come true...Not so fast, we ended up laying a HUGE egg on offense yet again while the defense did their job holding the Skins to just 10. Speaking of 10, DeSean Jackson had 2 HUGE drops that were going for TDs at the end of this game, which he acknowledged. But the worst part but this game was we pretty much went on a roll after the Ravens game and stopped the Giants, who at the time were a legit powerhouse, smoked the Browns, and Cardinals. The feeling was defeat after the Ravens game, glory after the Giants game, all the way to "I should've known we were going to end up blowing this thing." Then the very next week we had the amazing 44-6 game against the Cowpokes. Still can't believe we got in the playoffs that year. Thanks Jeff Garcia!

2.  January 3rd 2010 Eagles 0 Cowboys 24

I always thought the 2009 Eagles were over rated. Offensively they were breaking franchise records, but truth be told, they didn't beat a single decent team that year. Again, we struggled offensively with inconsistencies AND first time defensive coordinator Sean McDermott had his share of struggles as well. The loss of Jamal Jackson that year hurt for sure,so did Shawn Andrews (again), but scoring a total of ZERO points against a division rival such as the Cowboys hurt. Getting beat soundly on defense by a Wade Phillips led team HURT. The bubble screens, the draws, the slants that we KNEW were coming but couldn't stop anyway -- hurt. I personally thought it was McNabb's time to go after the 2008 CG, but this game and the playoff game the week after really sealed it for me despite his pro bowl #s that year. Good defenses were just getting to him and making him uncomfortable and do things he just didn't do in years prior.

1. November 7th 2011 - Bears 30, Eagles 24

Is this the all time worst regular season game in the Reid era? Maybe, maybe not, but there's a few things here.

a) the game is fresh in our minds

b) it made our chances of going to the playoffs from "possibly," to "very, very, slim."

c) it was a microcosm of the entire season up until this point.

In all seriousness, couldn't stop the run, no pass rush, couldn't stop Cutler and the mediocre gang of WRs tearing us apart, no heart in the secondary, dumb penalties, dumb turnovers and the obligatory turnover in the red zone.

And let's be honest, we all were expecting a team who marginally lost to the SB champion the year prior, to kick some serious ass with the major FA upgrades...And  here we are, wallowing in our misery.

The funny thing is, a lot of the most disappointing games on here felt like last weeks loss.. No hope, diminished playoff chances, and a ton of frustration. Hopefully like in years past, we turn it on, get a little luck, and go make a deep playoff run.

Any other games that I missed?

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The two in a row to the cowboys was devastating.
Then of course we have the superbowl and all the fucking NFC championship games.
And the Cowboys MNF game where McNabb got hurt scrambling getting pushed outta bounds.
Okay I just realized I hate this fanpost.
These old wounds still hurt!

by Ichiban on Nov 11, 2011 11:16 PM EST reply actions  

i meant for it to be regular season only

yeah that monday night game was a stunner. you knew the season was gone when McNabb went down and T.O. was T.O.

JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason

by Joe_D on Nov 11, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for bringing these up...

It makes me feel better about the loss to the Bears.

by EaglesForever20 on Nov 12, 2011 12:03 AM EST reply actions  

I always read this in voice modulation will Ferrells voice

makes the sarcasm even better

I need a sig. Someone say something funny.

by TheDtrain on Nov 12, 2011 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I would say the 2010 team was overrated too.

Look at most our wins and think about it. This team has been mediocre since 2005.

"Public school math has gotten bad the last couple of years huh?" - SGT Steve.
Yep, graduated from college and made the dumbest math mistake ever. I am a failure.

by BIBTD on Nov 12, 2011 12:05 AM EST reply actions  

i will say one thing about the 2010 team

we beat good teams and we BARELY lost to the really good ones… literally came very close to beating the eventual sb champs. It’s not like we were that far off. the 08 team really did have a good defense.. but i would tend to agree that we haven’t been as dominant as we were from 01-04…..but to be fair the NFC was pretty bad back in those days

JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason

by Joe_D on Nov 12, 2011 12:15 AM EST up reply actions  

You’re spoiled rotten.

Its all about da []_[]

by philiafan14364 on Nov 12, 2011 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

2006,2008,2009,2010 all better than mediocre.

"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson

by waterfield on Nov 12, 2011 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I would say the Bengals tie was the worst game of the ten.

A tie to a shitty team… how degrading.

"Public school math has gotten bad the last couple of years huh?" - SGT Steve.
Yep, graduated from college and made the dumbest math mistake ever. I am a failure.

by BIBTD on Nov 12, 2011 12:08 AM EST reply actions  

I was there

It was funny though. Eagles fans were pissed and Bengals fans we’re happy they hadn’t lost and since they had a bye the week before and a win rhe week before that, they were happy they hadn’t lost for 3 weeks in a row.

by outsyderz34 on Nov 12, 2011 10:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

LMAO seriously?

I fear the days where we start celebrating non-losses on bye weeks.

I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.

by Snax on Nov 12, 2011 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I was definitely heartbroken watching the Eagles lose to the Skins in 2008 when we finally had control of our path to the playoffs, all we had to do was win that game and nothing was getting done. The offense stunk hard and it was one of the most frustrating games for me to watch.

by fhqwagads on Nov 12, 2011 12:36 AM EST reply actions  

amazing article,

amazing list, amazing analysis, so why do i hate you?

by ytylerdurden on Nov 12, 2011 12:43 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

u don't

JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason

by Joe_D on Nov 12, 2011 12:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Eagles, 9 - Raiders, 13 (2009)

- Jamarcus Russell looked like a decent quarterback
- It made me want someone named “Justin Fargas” on our team
- And once again, the tight end (Zach Miller in this case) was completely unstoppable

… THANK GOD I had a concert to go to afterwards.

by Joewade on Nov 12, 2011 12:47 AM EST reply actions  

Yea that was about as embarassing as it gets

Asante had one of the worst whiffs I have seen in professional sports aside from DRC just straight up not choosing to tackle.

Little known fact, I met DRC about two weeks ago at a club. He’s super tall for a CB but a little bit on the thin side. You would not accuse him of being a football player if you didn’t know who he was.

JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason

by Joe_D on Nov 12, 2011 12:51 AM EST up reply actions  

And even if you see him on the field suited up...

…you’re still probably not going to accuse him of being a football player.

God Damn you, Andy Reid.

by EvilBanner on Nov 12, 2011 7:34 AM EST up reply actions  

I remember the Colts game in ‘06 (Jeff Garcia’s first start as an Eagle) was pretty disastrous as a game – 45-21 Colts. Getting ran over by Joseph Addai and dropping the Eagles to 5-6 at that point. And, if I remember correctly, it was on prime time to boot.

RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
"WHY IS THIS PINK-HAIRED BITCH A CAR?!"

by Imp on Nov 12, 2011 12:50 AM EST reply actions  

the tenn game when mcnabb got injured

yeah definitely deserves mention. even though the stats said we were red hot, we were really sputtering and that colts game we looked pretty much dead. that was a really fun turn around though — esp the dallas game on Xmas

JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason

by Joe_D on Nov 12, 2011 12:57 AM EST up reply actions  

to be honest

i barely flinched at the SF game, expectations were a bit low at that point.

GB game 1 sucked last year, but i let it slide seeing as our starting QB got hurt…TENN last year was really bad, so was Redskins game 1 …

JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason

by Joe_D on Nov 12, 2011 12:53 AM EST up reply actions  

on the sf game

I don’t care what your expectations are, blowing a 20 point lead is disappointing no matter what

GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!

by tanman5 on Nov 12, 2011 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

2005 (I think) season opener when we lost at Atlanta after Trot got tossed because their 3rd stringer was trying to fight with him. I still thought we’d have a good year that year, but it didn’t turn out to be and that game was the start of it.

by groot on Nov 12, 2011 2:07 AM EST reply actions  

Whats garcia have to do with 44-6?

by Mc5 on Nov 12, 2011 2:45 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

He produced a sizeable ipset that had to be won for us to even have a “win and in” scenario

Bad DCs: takes Juan to know one

by ProtoTyler on Nov 12, 2011 8:18 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, the years are messed up. Garcia wasn’t here that year.

by outsyderz34 on Nov 12, 2011 10:16 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

as Prototyler stated

There were two games, which were slated to NOT go in favor that had to go in our favor. Oakland had to beat the Bucs led by Jeff garcia. They wer down 10 in the fourth and came back and won..

JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason

by Joe_D on Nov 12, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

There was another game that a team had to lose too. I still remember that one big run from Michael Bush that started the day off well.

by outsyderz34 on Nov 12, 2011 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

It was Chicago.

Chicago had to lose to someone and they did.

I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.

by Snax on Nov 12, 2011 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Nice list

A few more …. don’t recall exact details and am too lazy to look them up.

We were up 24-7 against the Giants at home and lost.
The 60+ yard field goal against Tampa
The 17-0 loss to open the Linc against Tampa (you sort of mentioned that one)
The loss to the Vikings last season

Go Eagles!

by MRPH on Nov 12, 2011 8:10 AM EST reply actions  

that tampa one hurt

Westbrook had such a beautiful screen in the last 30 or so seconds,and it ended up being worth nothing

Just wait until December..

by maximdim on Nov 12, 2011 9:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

agreed. he made about 4 people miss.

i couldn’t believe that play

JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason

by Joe_D on Nov 12, 2011 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

oh yeah that 06 loss to the Giatns was brutal!

same with the 62 yrd fg… yea good ones to mention…

the shutout sucked too. LJ smith dropped a fake FG TD right in his hands

JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason

by Joe_D on Nov 12, 2011 10:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't even get me started about the 2006 Season...

that team was a 7-9 team until McNabb got hurt. If it wasn’t for Garcia winning 5 straight I feel that Reid would have been fired after that season or the next one where we went 8-8.

by eaglemaniac814 on Nov 12, 2011 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Believ it or not I was still a huge mcnabb fan then

but what I didn’t realize he wasn’t built to run the WC sstem that reid had in place back then..come to think of it WHY did Reid either a)play to mcnabb’s strenths or b) trade him and get a qb who could?… the offense just looked so much smoother with garcia in there

JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason

by Joe_D on Nov 12, 2011 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I was too...

unbelievably. But then I witnessed the 2007 season. I don’t kow why Reid didn’t get rid of McNabb and let Garcia QB for the next few years. Maybe Garcia would’ve taught Kolb how to handle a blitz and things would be very different if that were true.

However, I do feel as though Reid still has a job in Philly due to Jeff Garcia. I know you’re a huge Reid supporter, but if it wasn’t for Garcia blowing a 4th quarter lead against Oakland the day of 44-6 and him rattling off 5 straight in 2006, Reid would not be our coach today.

by eaglemaniac814 on Nov 12, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

He definitely has had his flaws

The biggest one so far has not being able to find a viable replacement for JJ.. And he doesn’t seem like he can get an adequate LB corp together either

hey you might be right about him being gone too. u got not argument from me, reid has his flaws

JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason

by Joe_D on Nov 12, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

He did have a decent one in dare I say 2006...

but then Takeo Spikes got hurt. Yes, Reid definitely has his flaws, and I think teams have figured him out. Play the Cover 2. It limits big plays and forces teams to drive, allowing for a greater chance of error by the offense. To my knowledge, he has a very, and I repeat very, poor record against Cover 2 teams.

by eaglemaniac814 on Nov 12, 2011 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I think that the Giants game from this year hurt worse than the Bears game.

AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.

by KByars on Nov 12, 2011 8:58 AM EST reply actions  

Ugghhh

How did you not include week 2, 2006. Our home opener vs the Giants. We’re up 24-7 in the 4th, and go on to lose the game in OT and Jevon Kearse for the season.

"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)

by jalarsen1 on Nov 12, 2011 9:36 AM EST reply actions  

dumb penalty put us in OT

I remember a stupid unsportsmanlike conduct penalty that put the Giants in FG range or extended the final drive that let them tie. then Jevon blows out knee in OT, on a play that shouldn’t have even existed.

"Who's been eatin' hummus?"

by Bisch on Nov 12, 2011 2:28 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The 2008 Championship Game Hurt The Most

1st half everyone played like ass. Offense was terrible, rip to JJ but he was calling a terrible game with his refusal to stop blitzing and the defense missing tackles like crazy especially Dawk who was getting roasted in coverage. Even Akers played like garbage missing PAT and FG’s.

Then the comeback started 2nd half was almost flawless. Offense scores 3 straight TD’s, defense stops them. And in typical Andy Fucking Reid fashion if the defense makes 1 more stop on the Cardinals drive we win that game and go to the SB. But no we continue to blitz get torched on 3rd downs, Larry Fitzgerald looks like god and they score.

We get really one last shot, 4th Down comes McNabb actually makes the perfect pass but we get no PI with Kevin Curtis. Ballgame folks. After that game I know Reid was not destined to deliver this team a SB ever and basically have wanted him gone ever since.

2010-2011 is a great year for sneaker heads.

by Young Eagle on Nov 12, 2011 9:50 AM EST reply actions  

how can you blame a no bad call on Reid?

Both McNabb AND the defense had terrible games. McNabb did turn it on in the 2nd half but left a LOT of points on the board in the first.

OUr safety play was horrendous, Dawkins and Mikkel both got abused.

JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason

by Joe_D on Nov 12, 2011 11:15 AM EST up reply actions  

the 06 loss in the playoffs to the saints

Hurt a lot too… Especially because I’m pretty sure we had the lead with a stallworth TD after a westbrook long TD run… Then they just kept running it, and just destroyed our d… We converted a 4th and 10 too, but one of our OL false started (nick cole?) And it was a heartbreaking loss to such an amazing run we had.. 5 straight reg. Seasoon, 3 divisional wins, and a win over the giants at home in round 1 of the playoffs

Just wait until December..

by maximdim on Nov 12, 2011 9:57 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

we shoulda won that game

our D was beat up 6 days rest, etc…. It wasn’t Nick Cole, it was a white guy, his name is slipping my mind

JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason

by Joe_D on Nov 12, 2011 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

scott young

by my recollection

^Nights Of Cabiria

by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Nov 13, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

The Oakland game in 2009

Should never have lost! There were so many simple adjustments taht could have been made, and obviously Reid didn’t see any of them in his face, it was like a train wreck in slow motion happening in front of your face, and I could never accept that we were actually going to lose until the last 20 seconds.

Also the Giants come back win on the eagles at home after we were up like 3 tds or something. I think maybe 2005 or 2006. When Mcnabb got so cocky that he himself did a false start, by faking the snap. Plaxico had the last minute TD. SOO FREAKING FRUSTRATING, just because I hate the giants so very much.

by thebirds77 on Nov 12, 2011 11:44 AM EST reply actions  

Lots of horrible losses.. Whenever Eagles lose, they always tend to do it in ridiculous fashion.

-Losing to TB by one point after outgaining them 510 yards to 196. D goes soft at the end and allows them to get within range of a 62 yard FG.

-The Saints game where the Eagles blew a late lead and the game was tied. The D lets them eat up the last 8:30 of game clock and kick a chip shot FG as time expired.

-Packers game where 2 muffed kicks handed them the game (of course).

-Hideously embarrassing WTF losses to Oakland, Cincinatti and the Vikings.

Any of the Chicago losses.
-98 yard last minute game winning drive by Brian Griese.
-The one where the Eagels failed like 8 times to punch the ball in from the 1 yard line. Akers missed 2 FG’s and we lost by one score.
-Last season where red zone issues killed us on O and half of hte yards Chicago gained were after Eagles defenders slipped..

-The SF game this year was an epic meltdown.

-So was the Tennessee game last season.

-Falcons game… Vick about to beat his old team, gets injured, points at the scoreboard and sees his team collapse without him.

-The skins game in 08 that seemed like it would keep us out of the playoffs. Reggie Brown tackled at the 1.

-Skins game last year when Avant tossed away that game-winning hail mary pass.

-Skins game in 07 where Curtis dropped a first down at the 2 yard line that would’ve most likely gotten us a game-tying FG.

-Giants game in 07 when Akers hits the post on a game-tying FG attempt as time expired.

-Dallas MNF game in 08 where the Eagles are leading by 3, in position to put the game away. Fumble on handoff to Westbrook sets up game-winning TD by Dallas.

-Dallas game in 09 where the Eagles go for it twice on 4th down and both times the Ref’s make a horribly inept spot that ends the drive. Dallas scores the game-winning TD after one of those turnovers.

by MikeCampy on Nov 12, 2011 12:38 PM EST reply actions  

oh god yeah that Brian Griese loss was freaking ugly

some of those aren’t top 10 worthy but yeah, all bad losses!

JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason

by Joe_D on Nov 12, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Raiders 13 Eagles 9, Oct 18 2009

- Raiders went 5-11 that season, with 3 of those wins against horrible Chiefs, Bengals, and Broncos squads.
- Raiders had the 32nd-rank rushing defense heading into that game, but actually a pretty good pass defense.

Here is a sample of the game Andy called:
Westbrook: 6 carries for 50 yards
McNabb: 22/46, no TDs

That to me was the most frustrating loss to watch, the playcalling was just insane. They could have ran the ball 40 times for 250 yards and three scores between Shady and Westbrook on this Raiders D, it was absolutely terrible against the run. We saw shades of this against the Bills this year with LeSean McCoy’s 11 carry 80 yard day.

Anyway this loss turned out to be huge as the Eagles finished this season tied with the Cowboys for the NFC East lead with the Cowboys holding the series sweep; Cowboys got the #3 seed while the Eagles got stuck with the #6.

by Kevin888 on Nov 12, 2011 1:37 PM EST reply actions  

25 of those rushing yards came on one play. The rest of the carries to BWest and McCoy were 10 rushes for 38 yards. You can’t just look at the average being > 5ypc and conclude they could get a first down on every set of downs by running on every play.

It is not possible to drive down the field with just the run when you’re getting garbage gains on most of your rushes. If the passing game is not connecting, the offense will fail. That game was a complete disaster. The Raiders were in the backfield so fast that there was no time for a pass play to develop or for blocks to get set up in the run game.

Oh and those 2 missed FG’s by Akers… what a mess.

by MikeCampy on Nov 12, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason

by Joe_D on Nov 12, 2011 1:56 PM EST up reply actions  

- “25 of those yards came on one play” > Yes that’s what happens when you have good running backs, they keep the defense off balance and then break huge plays. Like McCoy against Chicago last week, he was basically held in check most of the game but then breaks a 33 yard touchdown run. That was a more explosive/momentum shifting play than anything we did in the passing game that night wasn’t it?

> Even 3.8ypc is not “garbage gains”. Mathematically that’s 11.4 yards per three downs, enough to move the chains last I checked. Running the football sets up manageable third downs, this is elementary.

I don’t know how you can defend Reid’s playcalling from that game, the Raiders were in soft coverage all game (and they had Asomugha of course) and he throws the ball 46 times versus 11 called runs…

Andy would rather get an 80 yard touchdown pass and then go three and out the next 3 series rather than control the clock.

by Kevin888 on Nov 12, 2011 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

“Even 3.8ypc is not "garbage gains. Mathematically that’s 11.4 yards per three downs, enough to move the chains last I checked.”

Untrue. The point is, when you average 3.8ypc, you’re not getting 3.8 yards every carry. So you can’t argue that you’ll move the chains every time. A random sequence of runs typically goes like this… 2, 3, 10, 3, 1 : Avg = 3.8. The YPC average is heavily weighted by the few long runs. Suppose you call 3 runs at random from the above sequence. Well, the only way you get a first down is if you’re lucky enough to get the 8 yarder. Otherwise, you punt. The probability of getting one first down is thus only about 50%. So what’s the probability of getting all the way down field if you have 70 yards… practically zero. Running is overrated for this reason. The running game cannot carry a team to win unless it’s totally dominating… or the D is dominating.

When you get 1-2 big runs, it doesn’t help as much as you think… if all of your other runs are garbage. The one big play that gets you into FG position or one TD doesn’t offset all the times you’re forced to punt.

“Running the football sets up manageable third downs, this is elementary.” Ask Jay Cutler how unmanageable 3rd and long is. For example, running on 2nd and 10 to set up a “manageable” 3rd down is a flawed philosophy. It’s much easier to convert 2nd and 10 with 2 pass attempts than to face an all-or-nothing 3rd and 8. It’s not that much harder to convert 3rd and 10 than 3rd and 8. It’s not worth wasting a precious down to get a slightly easier 3rd down.

by MikeCampy on Nov 12, 2011 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

It's telling that virtually all of these 'most frustrating' games

Besides the Bears game this year,

Involve lapses by the offense, not the defense.

Jim Johnson…

by Kevin888 on Nov 12, 2011 1:41 PM EST reply actions  

True

even all the CG save for the Cards game, the defense did it’s part.

JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason

by Joe_D on Nov 12, 2011 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

The loss to the raiders has got to be in the top 3

The playcalling was just insane, even for AR’s habits.

by GermanEagle on Nov 12, 2011 2:31 PM EST reply actions  

I find that untrue

Honestly, that was one of McNabb’s worst games EVER. He was missing wide open WRs or just plaain not seeing them. Granted the o-line was TERRIBLe that game, the play calls were there, the team was just not executing — at all

JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason

by Joe_D on Nov 12, 2011 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

See, when McNabb plays like shit for a whole half it’s on Reid to shift the balance over to the running game and take some pressure off him. But he never does, he never makes adjustments.

It was the same story with the Bills game this year….You can bitch about Vick’s 5 picks but if he had 35 pass attempts instead of 45 I guarantee you that erases at least 2 of them.

by Kevin888 on Nov 12, 2011 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember not being able to beat the top AFC teams.

i remember going back and forth with the Steelers, but games against the Colts, Patriots and other elite teams of the conference used to bum me out. I still remember struggling against the Jaguars when we played them. We’re getting better at it though (maybe because the conferences are evening up, but I don’t know).

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by Snax on Nov 12, 2011 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

And the Titans

We never seem to be able to beat them.

Go Eagles!

by MRPH on Nov 12, 2011 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Because the Eagles haven't.

As least, not as the Titans. The last win Eagles had over them was when they were the Oilers back in 1994.

RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
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by Imp on Nov 12, 2011 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

that game sucked too

but, we were already done at that point and nowhere near playoff contenders

JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason

by Joe_D on Nov 12, 2011 11:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Few things

1. Jeff Garcia did NOT lead us to the post season in 2008…that was McNabb.
2. Super Bowl is number 1. Arizona NFC Championship game is number 2. That’s indisputable.

GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!

by tanman5 on Nov 12, 2011 7:59 PM EST reply actions  

2. Super Bowl is number 1. Arizona NFC Championship game is number 2. That’s indisputable.

To be fair, Joe was aiming for regular season only.

RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
"WHY IS THIS PINK-HAIRED BITCH A CAR?!"

by Imp on Nov 12, 2011 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

and to buil don what IMp said

Jeff Garcia blw the game as a tampa bay buc, which led us into the playoffs that year!!!!

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by Joe_D on Nov 12, 2011 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

How about last year?

This miserable loss to the Vikings on Tuesday after coming off a huge win against the Giants. We scored on our first possession, and it was pretty much all Vikings after that. That was a terribly difficult game to watch.

by d m on Nov 12, 2011 8:38 PM EST reply actions  

What made that game even more miserable is that...

I was hoping to see the Eagles in a snow game for the first time of my life. The players were psyched to play in the snow and I’m pretty sure they would not have come out flat and embarrassed themselves if the game was played when it was meant to be played. That game would have been classic regardless of the outcome.

BTW even the score on that first drive was handed to us by a borderline PI call. Hideous performance from start to finish… right up there with the Oakland and Cincinnati debacles. You knew it was going to be a flop when Vick had that fumble returned for a TD… the ball was knocked out of his hands and there was plenty of time for Vick to pick it back up and knowing Vick, he’d probably make a play with it. Instead, Vick inexplicably falls down and lets the ball get returned for a TD.

by MikeCampy on Nov 12, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Worst. Comment. Section. Ever.

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-DeSean Jackson was once the great young wide receiver hope of this franchise, he has since devolved into a rich man's Todd Pinkston, otherwise known as Alligator Arms. My DeSean Jackson fan-hood was misguided.

by d-jackfan10 on Nov 13, 2011 6:49 AM EST reply actions  

What’s wrong with it?

"Public school math has gotten bad the last couple of years huh?" - SGT Steve.
Yep, graduated from college and made the dumbest math mistake ever. I am a failure.

by BIBTD on Nov 13, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Did you read it? It’s like every awful memory about the Eagles wrapped up in one place.

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by d-jackfan10 on Nov 14, 2011 7:09 AM EST up reply actions  

yep yep.

"Public school math has gotten bad the last couple of years huh?" - SGT Steve.
Yep, graduated from college and made the dumbest math mistake ever. I am a failure.

by BIBTD on Nov 13, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

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