Eagles Embarrass Themselves In 31-24 Loss To Bills
by JasonB on Oct 9, 2011 4:55 PM EDT
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Another game, another inexplicable implosion... and folks, it's getting crazier by the week. Back in week two, it was a hard to believe drop from Jeremy Maclin at the very end to thwart a possible game winning drive. In week three Michael Vick gets hurt and Mike Kafka comes in and throws two picks to end it. In week four Maclin fumbles on a potential game winning drive. Today? Well today, we got creative.
First, the Eagles offense finally gets rolling in the fourth quarter and looks pretty much unstoppable. Down 10 they've first and goal before they start going backwards. Consecutive penalties puts them back out near the 30 and settle for a field goal. They quickly get the ball back and are once again driving down the field when for the second time in the game, Jason Avant has a ball taken right out of his hands for a turnover. The stat sheet will show an interception for Michael Vick, but in reality he had nothing to do with it.
But wait, as if that wasn't enough. The Eagles defense actually stops the Bills on three downs to force a 4th and less than a yard with about a minute left. The Bills elect to line up to go for it with everyone in the world knowing that they're just trying to draw the Eagles offsides. What happens? The oldest and most experienced player on the team, Juqua Parker, jumps offsides. Game over.
The vortex of errors and futility that has ensnared the Eagles this season is hard to explain. The end of the game was just the part that hurt the worst, but really that type of stuff happened all afternoon. We can't forget the comical end to the first half where the Eagles ran a play with :08 left rather than kick a FG, letting the half run out in the process. They turned the ball over five times, two thanks to Avant, while Michael Vick was charged with the hardest luck four INT game that you'll ever see (although the pick 6 was 100% on him). He did throw for 315 yards, 2 TDs and ran for another 90 to become the NFL's all time leading rusher among QBs.
There were a lot more mistakes than will show up on the stat sheet though. The tackling in this game was worse than it has been all year, which is really saying something. And for all those that wanted to blame the inability to stop the run on the "wide nine" today was a rude awakening for you. The Eagles played much tighter gaps and mostly got away from the formation today and if anything the run defense got worse. Certainly the absence of Trent Cole was a part of that, but the same issues (tackling, gap responsibility, getting off blocks) were just as glaring today as they were when the "wide nine" was in full deployment. It should be painfully obvious that no change to the system can hide or mask how bad this defense is right now.
Is there even a point to say that drastic changes need to be made? We've been saying this for weeks and yet only little tweeks are made. I don't know that we can pin this all on Juan Castillo, certainly these players aren't making plays, but we can pin enough on him to know he's not able to be a defensive coordinator in the league. Jarrad Page should be cut tomorrow. Literally anyone would be better than him right and the fact that Juan waited until the very end of the game to finally bench is cause enough for him to be fired.... The fact that Jarrad Page is out there missing tackles and killing the team every Sunday while your rookie second round safety Jaiquawn Jarrett is sitting on the sideline inactive is galling.
But honestly, that's just one of many things I could rant for an hour about regarding this team. It's bad. It's embarrassing and in all likelihood, it's the end. The end for playoff hopes, the end for Juan Castillo and very possibly the end for Andy Reid. Last week, I asked whether they had hit rock bottom. It appears as though they did not. Not even close.
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BGN, I need your help.
Especially you voices of reason out there. I’d like to hear what you have to say.
Is it unreasonable to call for Andy Reid to be fired? Am I overreacting?
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Oct 9, 2011 4:57 PM EDT reply actions
i really dont think so..but not yet
give him the season is what ive been saying. castillo must go though. he cant stay…and if the eagles dont make the playoffs goodbye reid
LeSean McCoy is the best thing to hit Philadelphia since Ben Franklin
But why isn’t Reid held accountable for hiring Castillo?
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Oct 9, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
he should be
but i think its harder to recover a season if you fire the HC midway
LeSean McCoy is the best thing to hit Philadelphia since Ben Franklin
Firing Mr Piggy should only be done if we have a viable coaching candidate
ready to come in.
After watching this defense bounce off of runners play after play after play, who in their right mind would want to come in here to coach?
I’d rather go find Herman Boone (may or may not be alive) and have him coach than Reid at this point
Bullies, Phightins, and Vickerbockers
Is that the coach from Remember the Titans?
"Get 'Em"
by FlyEagles15 on Oct 10, 2011 1:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I hear you on that, but if you find the right candidate it's not impossible
I know it’s early, but Jim Harbaugh seems to be doing well. I actually liked him as an NFL head coach candidate
Vick will go Bad Newz Kennels on that shitass secondary. - EvilBanner
by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Oct 9, 2011 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Jon Gruden
If there is anyone out there to fix this mess it’s Jon Gruden. He’s the only one capable of putting this team back together. These Super’s are under-acheiving because of AR, and his sanctioned DC of OC… WTF was he thinking? These other Coordinators are running drills around him.. WIDE 9????
Gruden thinks everyone is the best player to ever play their position
We have enough to that bs around here.
by Sparki on Oct 9, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes!
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I will get down on my knees
and pray for the Eagles to get Gruden.
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by bigbluethruandthru on Oct 9, 2011 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Recover a season?
There is nothing to recover. Better a change now so that the new HC has part of a year to get his schemes going for the next year. Wait until the end of the season and who knows when things will start to gel.
by A Yahoo! user on Oct 9, 2011 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
And everyone else gave it the ok. I think the real problem is Andy has too much control over the team.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Does he?
I’m truly asking this. Do we really know how much power Reid has at this point? How much power did Roseman have in constructing this current roster? Did the front office demand Reid fire McDermott after last season? Did the front office give him a restrictive budget that limited his candidates for defensive coordinator?
Vick will go Bad Newz Kennels on that shitass secondary. - EvilBanner
by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Oct 9, 2011 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Andy was the one lobbying for Juan to become DC. The fact that that happened (when EVERYONE thought it was a bad idea), at least to me, shows that Andy is pretty much the only one that has any say.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Lobbying?
He made the hire. It’s his choice.
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True, but Juan is one of many problems on this team.
I’m not leaving Reid blameless, believe me. I just think he’s one of many people who need to go. I’d even flush Joe Banner out at this point, though I know there is absolutely no chance of that happening.
Vick will go Bad Newz Kennels on that shitass secondary. - EvilBanner
by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Oct 9, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
IMO...
Andy has been a great coach,and I dont think its fair to call for his head because of 1 bad yr… I know we havent won it all,but hes gotten us pretty damn close several times. Considering all the new players,new coaches,new QB,and youth, I am not really shocked about whats developing. Perhaps a new HC will shake things up,but I think Andy should stay and ride it out. KEEP THE FAITH FELLAS.
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by Dunta Is A PUNK on Oct 9, 2011 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Well...
Let’s give him 2 more years and let him play his contract out…. is this really a question ??
All I want is an Eagles win this week.
Shut the fuck up. Shut. The. Fuck. Up.
Are you kidding me Eagladelphia? You’re the guy whose first post was a fucking novel with a laundry list of reasons to fire Andy Reid.
GTFO.
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Lol...
Don’t tell me you miss the sarcasm there… I mean, after all this time, I’m really hurt…
All I want is an Eagles win this week.
I really don’t need the sarcasm font with anyone else but you need to use it. Your sarcasm is so cryptic.
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For what it's worth I totally picked up on the sarcasm.
It was pretty clear to me.
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He should be
and castillo… I cant see any way that somebody else could do worse at HC and DC
by BleedinGreen116 on Oct 9, 2011 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
It would only be unreasonable if you insisted that he be fired from a cannon.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
I think the Navy has some on battleships that may work.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Nah
last battleships were decommissioned under Clinton, I believe.
by ChillBillinChina on Oct 9, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m sure the Mythbusters could rig something up.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
You can't fire Andy Reid from a cannon?
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
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is it Reids fault
That these bitch defensive players can’t tackle or that our wr’s can’t hold on to the pigskin. Castillo is the worst hire ever. Page is terrible. At this point cut his ass. jarrett can’t be worse. Its impossible. Also the holding call on king was bullshit. I can’t take this shit. Our defense couldn’t stop a high school offense and i don’t understand y cromartie and aso aren’t play press cover. Too many problems. I guarantee switching d coordinators midway through this season isn’t going to hurt.
by flyeaglesfly10 on Oct 9, 2011 6:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes, it IS his fault.
He is the one that brought them here. He drafted them. He traded for them. He is in charge of player personnel.
by A Yahoo! user on Oct 9, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Nnamdi played press coverage today.
And DRC is a bitch. There was a play where the guy he was covering caught the ball and he didn’t even attempt a tackle. He jogged along and expected somebody else to takle for him. One of many things that pissed me off. Probably #4
"Get 'Em"
by FlyEagles15 on Oct 10, 2011 1:11 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I honestly don’t think they should, even if this team goes 1-15.
He’s proven time and time again that he can get teams to the playoffs. In my book, that’s all that matters because the playoffs are such a crapshoot.
One bad decision shouldn’t override what we know he can do. I will certainly concede that his power within the organization is far too great and needs to be scaled back. When something doesn’t pass the smell test (the Castillo hiring), Roseman/Laurie needs to be able to jump in, which they apparently don’t have the ability to do.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Incorrect
Andy doesn’t get the team into the playoffs, the talent does. He has drained that talent to the point that a complete overhaul of this team is now needed. Starting with the HC, OC, and DC. They are ALL hopelessly overmatched.
by A Yahoo! user on Oct 9, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Andy doesn’t get the team into the playoffs, the talent does.
3 words: New England Patriots
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
And what are you trying to say?
Bill B. ran, passed, tackled the Pats to all their wins? No, he put together the TALENT that won.
by A Yahoo! user on Oct 9, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
They have Brady, Wilfork, Welker… and who?
Talent wise, I would say they aren’t all that much better than any other team. Belichick just always seems to get the players in the right places to make plays.
If talent was the only deciding factor, we would be 5-0. I don’t know what makes you think that Andy has “rained that talent to the point that a complete overhaul of this team is now needed”. Seems to me, that’s the complete opposite of what happened.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
If talent was the only deciding factor, we would be 5-0
It doesn’t matter who they have by name. They are 4-1. We aren’t 5-0, we are 1-4. That means that whatever talent we do have is not as good as you seem to think it is. In how many games did we have the lead? How many INTs today? The safeties are making more tackles than the LBs. “On-paper” talent NEVER wins ballgames, performance does. Ask the Phils about that. You should start seeing things as they are and not how you would like them to be.
by A Yahoo! user on Oct 9, 2011 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
We have a lot of ‘talented’ players, more so than the Pats in fact.
They are 4-1. We aren’t 5-0, we are 1-4. That means that whatever talent we do have is not as good as you seem to think it is.
Or because they’re coach is a friggin genius and gets the absolute most out of this players, something we certainly aren’t doing at all.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't understand you....
You say “We have a lot of ‘talented’ players, more so than the Pats in fact.”. Yet, they are 4-1and we are 1-4. You say Belichick is a “friggin genius”, and you want to keep Reid “even if this team goes 1-15.”
What this conversation boils down to is that Andy isn’t half the coach that Belichick is so why would you want to keep Reid? If you are so certain that we have the better players, wouldn’t you want a coach that could win with them?
by A Yahoo! user on Oct 9, 2011 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
You say Belichick is a "friggin genius", and you want to keep Reid "even if this team goes 1-15."
I’m sure the inconsistency is alarming, but my reason is because Andy has had, what, 2 losing seasons in the past decade? He has proven that at 80% of the time he is a really, really good coach. I doubt there’s many other guys around that can do that.
And I think that Andy made some mistakes (ie Juan as DC), but these mistakes aren’t likely to repeat themselves. The next DC will almost assuredly be a ‘conventional’ DC.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Your comment about the Phils automatically disqualifies you from any further sports discussion. Mosey on by sir.
by PhilsForever on Oct 10, 2011 1:03 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Hey did you see the Pats vs Jets today?
They were winning in the 4th quarter and they did something crazy: they ran the football again and again and ran the clock all the way down to seal the victory.
Where do they come up with this stuff?? LOL I like how my man Andy throws it 80% of the time in the 4th quarter while holding a lead and one of the best defenses in football.
Andy Reid has been EXPOSED. He’s been making these idiotic mistakes for years, but always had JJ to cover for him on defense. Well, now the defense can’t stop anyone, and Reid’s mismanagement of the offense has become more glaring and obvious.
The Eagles have always made the playoffs DESPITE the best efforts of Andy Reid. It was the defense that carried this team through the golden age of the mid-2000s. With a competent head coach they could have won a SB with that defense….
Dude that point is nonsense.
If that’s your argument then I can say that the “talent” of this team is why they’re 1-4. So it’s not Reid’s fault this team sucks, it’s the players…..?
"Get 'Em"
by FlyEagles15 on Oct 10, 2011 1:15 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Over reacting?? No
Andy has proven with his off season moves that he is completely out of touch. His biggest problems were linebackers and OTs. And what did he do? He, Marty and Juan are ALL hopelessly overmatched, and until the brass realizes it, this team goes NOWHERE.
by A Yahoo! user on Oct 9, 2011 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t want to go back to the days of rk and rr. I think the Juan experiment has definitely failed though. I still like ar.
by ericbtrout on Oct 9, 2011 7:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Kotite and Rhodes?
Actually, I was thinking of an actual, proven winning coach.
by A Yahoo! user on Oct 9, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I hate the arguement of, "I don't want to go back to the days of Ray Rhodes and Rich Kotite"
There are coaches who have won the Super Bowl since Reid was hired. Just because you decide to move on from Reid doesn’t automatically mean the team will go 0-16 until you rehire him.
Vick will go Bad Newz Kennels on that shitass secondary. - EvilBanner
by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Oct 9, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, Reid is so familiar to us and his arrival took us out of such depths that it does seem scary to think of him gone.
But you’re right. There are other coaches.
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I think you're overreacting.
I think even if he fucks up he’s got another year to fix it.
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It is his responsibility to fix the problem.
Every week they attack this defense differently and every week what ever they do works.
We are hearing the same thing week after week, talented players in the secondary playing zone who should be playing man to man.
Line Backers and Safeties that can not make plays or tackle.
I am starting to miss E. Simms.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over thinking it will come out different.
It is not getting any better, Andy has to turn it around, bring some one in who can help out this defensive staff.
Screens, traps, draws, long passes, play actions, you name it and what ever the opponent does works against against this Defense.
It is not just one thing but everything.
Every week they attack this defense differently and every week what ever they do works.
Everything is broken and not just one part.
It must be hard to write
these recaps so far this year. Here’s hoping they’ll turn it around.
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by xADx GoGreen4Ever on Oct 9, 2011 4:58 PM EDT reply actions
here's hoping they WON'T
it’s been a brewing feeling that we need some REAL changed (likely a new HC that’s fired up and excited to prove himself)…but we always seem to do just enough to stay competitive, but never enough to really be good.
‘04 was Andy’s shot…it was building to that point. Now we’re going backwards each year. End of an era…
I hope we don’t turn it around so we can pretend that nothing’s really wrong, and just make more little tweaks
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
Come on. No Eagles fan can root for losses just because they don’t like somebody.
Eagles: 1-4, I still have hope!
Flyers: Good start
Phillies: Sigh
I want wholesale changes
different philosophies in drafting and defense…
if that can come while righting the ship, fine.
I just think losing now is the only way to win going forward.
Hope I’m wrong
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
If you want wholesale changes, then you lose your right to complain when we don’t make the playoffs five years in a row.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Who the fuck are you?
This is not about “rights”.
It is about loyal Eagle fans seeing inept performance by coaches and players.
A change is mandatory if the Eagles are going to succeed. They will not make the playoffs with this shitty crew.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
Remember, the Super Bowl season was 7 years ago
The problem is this team seems farther away from winning a Super Bowl than closer. Reid has not improved on any facet of his game since then. The team really hasn’t put a full season together since then that made you believe they were championship caliber.
If they fire Reid and the replacement is a complete bonehead, that does not negate anyone’s right to complain.
Vick will go Bad Newz Kennels on that shitass secondary. - EvilBanner
by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Oct 9, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
not buying that
I hold the team to a high standard like any fan does.
If wholesale changes suck, I’ll complain again
As long as we suck, I’ll complain
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
"The vortex of errors and futility"
Ah well, at least I laughed a little at that part.
..so I didn’t cry.
:(
I took it a different way.
I thought it was very good writing. Nothing funny about it at all. Vortex is a perfect symbol.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
Not an insult towards Jason.
I think the symbolism is perfect. Part of me laughed at the ridiculousness of the mental image of a vortex… that is nothing but futility, errors, and disappointment.
Like others have said – we can only laugh to not cry.
Also, my dissertation a few months ago was on hurricane-like vortices, so… it’s a nerd thing.
by Eagle Fly Free on Oct 9, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I still don't get the humor.
And BTW, crying is cathartic.
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Clay Harbor needs to start over Celek, I’m tired of seeing balls bounce off of Celek’s hands & one of Vick’s INTs was when he was trying to throw it to Celek
Celek
is actually a bad football player right now…
that might apply to a lot of guys, but I’m ready to write Celek off as a one year wonder. Never the same since his thumb injury.
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
I have to call bullshit
Vick got hit on the that play, which CLEARLY affected the throw, that happened to land in the defensive players hands. That’s not on Celek, or Vick for that matter.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Pocket awareness is on Vick. The line didn’t do him any favors, but he’s the one who pulls the trigger.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Yeah I agree. If you ranked interceptions on how bad they were, one where the QB is hit would be below one where he just didnt’ see the DB or underthrows or tries to fit it in a window… but it’s above a tipped ball or something fluky like that.
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Of all the ineptitudes I watched the last 4 weeks, Celek being benched for Harbor would fix just about none.
It would be as effective as changing the words of “Fly, Eagles, fly”.
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On the road to incompetency
Drop, Eagles Drop
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Hit ’em low, hit ’em high
But watch ’em still go by
Die, Eagles Die
Biggest flop in history!
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I laughed
Thank you
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by FlyEagles15 on Oct 10, 2011 1:24 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm not sure you can entirely blame the pick-6 on Vick
The video shows Vick is hit as he’s throwing, preventing him from following through.
Vick had 1 INT tipped up in the air at the line, 2 INTs thrown while being hit, and the 4th was entirely on Avant.
Can you blame that on his inability to read the blitz there though?
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Oct 9, 2011 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Well don’t get rid of the ball to the other team for one.
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You dump the ball off.
The whole idea of blitz pickup is that it generally leaves a back or TE open in the flat, allowing for an easy short completion. Throwing the ball over the middle of the field into coverage isn’t what you’re supposed to do there. Either take the sack, throw the ball away, or dump it off to the open man.
by licensetochill on Oct 9, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a delayed blitz
It looked to me like that’s what Vick was trying to do, and the hit disrupted the throw. There was nobody in the flat that I can see at all.
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By the way only a d…head would blame this on vick
by Mrrc7 on Oct 9, 2011 8:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Vick is not tall enough to see the MLB in underneath coverage
Andy and Marty insist that he’s a 6’6 Peyton Manning who can survey the field and throw 50 passes from the pocket every game.
Idiotic coaching…
A good coach would playcall to Vick’s strengths and get him on the edge, not pretend that he’s a stand-up pocket passer.
He’s plenty tall enough.
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In all seriousness
I read somewhere that QB’s don’t look over the line. No QB is really tall enough to see over a 6’3" lineman. They look between the linemen for open receivers. Height is a bigger factor with getting passes knocked down.
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by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Oct 9, 2011 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
He was, but it think it was mostly a bad decision. The others were fluky, but I don’t really see that one was fluky.
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I'm going to wait until there's a high res version I can watch
Because it really looks to me as if he’s getting hit as the ball leaves. Vick frequently will force a ball into coverage, but that’s not what happened there. I really think the hit affected the ball.
I saw one pass that went right to a Bill with no Eagle within maybe 5 yards.
That has to be on Vick, regardless of any other circumstance. The rest of them I thought were not really bad plays by Vick.
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The positive that comes out of this is that we can properly adjust our expectations for the season. This team is not making the playoffs. You can either watch for fun and hope they win, hope they lose to get a better draft pick, or just not watch at all because you know the season won’t amount to anything. I personally will struggle with the first two options. A top ten draft pick would be fun.
Luxury rap, the Hermes of verses. Sophisticated ignorance, write my curses in cursive
If they beat Washington, there would still be a chance, if they demote Castillo to equipment boy helper.
Other than that, you’re right. It’s a weight off our shoulders. We no longer have to care.
It would be very funny if Reid gets goaded into flipping out at a presser, the way Belichik did in Cleveland. I like the fact that the so-called reporters are feeling their oats and asking provoking questions. Sooner or later, if the incompetence continues, something will snap, and it will be good entertainment.
Wow, Tebow just made a ridiculously insane attempt to win the game on the last play. He scrambled for what seemed like 2 minutes then stuck it in the endzone. Close, but no go.
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Actually, you can blame Castillo
Poor tackling is a product of poor coaching. Its a lack of focus on the fundamentals.
by Hajimoto on Oct 9, 2011 5:02 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
There's a lot of restrictions on full contact practices with the new CBA
Besides, how does anybody make it to the NFL without learning how to tackle?
Probably 6 or 7 ways.
But who cares ? A coach should have what it takes to weed out those who don’t, no?
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
Heres a decent question.
How is a coach to know if his players are sound tacklers when the CBA allows only a short period of full contact practice?
"Get 'Em"
by FlyEagles15 on Oct 10, 2011 1:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Castillo's motto has gone something like this
“Funamentals, discipline, aggressiveness, fundamentals”
Funny how we have NONE of that.
Bench Page.
Start Coleman. Give the ball to McCoy more. Fire Juan. Work on your freakin time management. Give the ball to McCoy more. Fix tackling. Fix redzone defense and offense.
Ahh fk it. We’re screwed.
Also I didn’t think anything could top Ronnie Brown’s stupid ass interception against the 49ers. Only to watch it be 1 upped by the stupid ass play calling at the end of the half and stupid ass decision making on Vick’s part to hold the ball that long.
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Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
MonSTARZ forever!
Bench Page?
Cut him. He has no place on this team. Coleman and Jarrett are there. Along with Allen, we don’t need another safety. Plus Colt anderson is on the team… So really, just get rid of the guy.
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by JasonB on Oct 9, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Bench him??
Kill him, then hire Johnny Cochran’s corpse and get away with it.
Seriously, anyone who can put on a uniform can play as well or better than that POS. For 5 games, he is the absolute worst NFL player I have ever seen. He made Ernie Sims look good today. Coleman came in and looked like Ronny Fucking Lott compared to that chicken running around with his head cut off reject.
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by waterfield on Oct 9, 2011 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I honestly don’t understand why it took so long to bench him. I wanted him benched all game and by the time he FINALLY did get benched, I wasn’t even happy cuz I was so pisses it took so long.
"Get 'Em"
by FlyEagles15 on Oct 10, 2011 1:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Thank you waterfield!
You seriously just made my day better with that comment. I laughed so hard to the beggining of your comment that I woke up my girl and two dogs! So again thanks. I guess I’ll go back to being a suicidal Eagles fan in Reno Nevada.
by Bleeding Green In Reno on Oct 10, 2011 2:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good man.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Thank you!
Page should not be on an NFL roster right now.
I’d rather take a chance on Jamar Adams or Marlin Jackson. (If we need to fill the 53 with another safety)
Fuck that.
… Keep Kurt, Nate, Jarrett and Anderson at Safety, keep our CB’s the same then use the spot to try and get a LB
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Parker tried.
He took a knife and drove it into the Eagles’ heart. Not sure what more he could have done.
Hey, Ronnie! You’re still in the running. That was a classic fuck up. Don’t feel bad if somebody comes up with a better one.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
Did Ronnie Brown even suit up today?
Guess he was exiled just like Brian Finneran.
Vick will go Bad Newz Kennels on that shitass secondary. - EvilBanner
by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Oct 9, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
He was on the sidelines, but Dion Lewis got all the backup carries.
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reid...
we have been saying it for years, but reid has to go. his philosophy does not cut it in the NFL. bring in a coach that is defensive minded and wants to build a team around that with big, tough, nasty dudes. no more of this finesse garbage.
Actually, finesse passing seems to be the norm
Problem is Reid and the FO are shrinking this team down to a midget football roster
by donniethelion on Oct 9, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
this is a good point...
look at brees… he a short qb but still lights it up… how? tall receivers. colston’s 6’4", meachem’s 6’2", and so forth. jackson and maclin are special players, but they can’t go up and get a ball.
by awd777 on Oct 9, 2011 9:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes, because defensive teams won the last two Super Bowls.
BRILLIANT!
Eagles: 1-3, but things WILL turn around.
Flyers: Good start
Phillies: Sigh
Pittsburgh and Green Bay were first and second in defense last year…Pittsburgh was first in defense in 2008…
by fhqwagads on Oct 9, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
his philosophy does not cut it in the NFL
Well, I guess we should forget his winning percentage. He has his problems for sure, but I think some people are overreacting. This team is a mess right now, but firing your HC in the middle of it is not going to help anything. This team added a lot of new people in an off-season without mini camps and OTA’s. That certainly did not help. This is still bad though.
No one had OTA's and mini camps.
Yet some teams still manage to win. This fat pussy and his bitch-ass friend, Castillo, have fucked us for the last time. They must be fired.
God Damn you, Andy Reid.
Apparently you do forget because we were 10-6 in 2006…
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you feel as though you just made a valuable contribution to the thread, or do you feel like the jackass nerd you acted like?.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
Okay.
I’ll play along…since the last game was played in January, the grieving period for the 2005-06 season took place in 2006. It certianly included 2005, for that Eagles team, and this one, was unspeakably bad.
God Damn you, Andy Reid.
16 of the 17 games were played in 2005, give it up
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Get lost, fuckhead.
You completely miss the point of the comment, so whatever “corrections” your little mind comes up with are pulp. Stick that up your ass and chew on it with your colon teeth.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
As you might say
Do you feel as though you just made a valuable contribution to the thread, or do you feel like the jackass nerd you acted like?.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Lol...did u say colon teeth??
"Get 'Em"
by FlyEagles15 on Oct 10, 2011 1:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
So, two years out of the past 11? I will take that. The grass is not always greener.
by Ben16 on Oct 9, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Not only will you take that,
but you will like it.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
All fat pussies and their bitch-ass friends must fucking hang.
I hear ya dog.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
EB's point is hard to argue
No one had an offseason (except for the Bucs apparently, not that it helped them) and everyone has new players.
Jim Harbaugh has the freaking Niners at 4-1 and he’s installed a whole new system. The excuses just don’t work anymore. I was willing to buy that they need time to adjust during the preseason or even a week or two into the regular season… But this is week five. They’ve been playing for over a month. There’s no more adjusting.
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agreed
No excuses. Coaching sucks. Rec.
Crush them, my Birds!!! CRUSH THEM!!!!!!!!!
by EagleDomiNation on Oct 10, 2011 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm sick of hearing about "Andy's winning percentage"
The great mid-2000s teams were defensive powerhouses built and run by Jim Johnson. Andy and McNabb’s bumbling on offense was always just a sideshow.
With no great defense, Andy is exposed for what he is: a clown.
That’s selective memory and it’s not true. Those were well balanced teams. It wasn’t all defense. It really wasn’t.
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i know that...
But seriously though, Reid has been making these boneheaded playcalling and time management mistakes from his first day here. They have always played down to bad teams. They always had problems sustaining drives. They always stuck themselves in third-and-long holes because they neglected to run on first and second down.
But the D was usually good enough to eke out a victory. Now Andy can’t laugh these mistakes off; they’re losing games because of his mistakes, not just ALMOST losing games because of his mistakes like the good old days.
I still say the D was the more important piece of the puzzle though.
Quick: how many 4th quarter comebacks did Donovan McNabb have in his career here? 4th quarter comebacks are the hallmark of an elite QB and first-rate offense. Scoring through the air when the defense knows you have to pass.
But when the pressure came and Donovan had to make the tough downfield throws with the whole defense keying on him, he couldn’t do it. That’s why I prefer Vick, because he’s a comeback machine…. but the coaching staff puts him in a position where he has to be Superman every week.
But it’s never been like this. All the Andy Reid problems that bug us, those aren’t the issues right now. This is new levels of crap.
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The difference I think is the players’ perception of Reid…. despite his flaws Reid at least used to be a respected coach who could motivate his guys but that isn’t the case now.
Guys are just not buying into his message anymore. They’re playing disinterested, aloof. The players seem to have concluded that Reid is a clown. You can tell they don’t have faith in him or his minion Castillo.
Idk, I remember us kicking a lot of FG’s during that time frame.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
They were consistently top 5-10 in scoring over those years. The offense was good.
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We'll be fine guys
We just gotta win 11 straight, which is possible and we’ll be sittin’ there at 12-4 with a 1st rd bye. Everyone’s freaking out for nothing
Semper Fi.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
Or maybe 4-12...
No, we most assuredly won’t “be fine”. You have no concept of NFL football if you think everything will be fine. The defense is in a shambles and the offense can’t hang on to the ball.
by A Yahoo! user on Oct 9, 2011 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
A cardboard cutout of Nicholas Cage
"The only game I play is football, and to me it's not a game."
-Jeremy Maclin
A kU fan once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.
by McNabb2Maclin4Philly on Oct 9, 2011 5:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don’t want that guy anywhere near my team
"The only game I play is football, and to me it's not a game."
-Jeremy Maclin
A kU fan once tried to test me. I ate his liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti.
by McNabb2Maclin4Philly on Oct 9, 2011 5:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Chuck Norris
"If it bleeds, we can kill it" -Dutch
"Men are clinging to football on a level we aren't even aware of. For centuries, we ruled everything, and now, in the last ten minutes, there are all these incursions by women. It's our Alamo."
-Tony Kornheiser
by SGTSteve on Oct 9, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The slug I found in my garden today.
Beautiful specimen. All he said was “fuck u Page!!”
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
Todd Bowles?
Maybe he’d try a coordinator job on the road to a head coaching job:
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Five-candidates-for-NFL-head-coaching-jobs-in-2012.html
Vick will go Bad Newz Kennels on that shitass secondary. - EvilBanner
by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Oct 9, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
The old Cowboys secondary coach?
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It was the best I could come up with on short notice
But when you put it like that, can I remove that post?
Vick will go Bad Newz Kennels on that shitass secondary. - EvilBanner
by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Oct 9, 2011 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
If anyone really expects us to suddenly pick it up after this
You have lost your mind. This has to be the icing on the cake. It just seems like this game sucked whatever life there was for this team out. I wouldn’t be surprised if the players came out next week and didn’t show anything or have any regards for the game.
As talented as we are, this team is just not good folks. Fuck the paper champions, fuck that we got a deep secondary, fuck that Reid has made the playoffs so many times, etc. You can’t be convinced that this is a good team anymore unless you are in denial. Work needs to be done and changes need to be made. This team has a lot of work to do starting at the top.
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by macjack09 on Oct 9, 2011 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
dam does jason sound pissed or is it just me
Reporter: "What have you done for T.O., besides getting him suspended?"
Drew Rosenhaus: "Next question."
by So. Cal Swag on Oct 9, 2011 5:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
He sounds pissed.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
i feel just as bad as every1 else right now
but we can still lose 3 games and make he playoffs if thing go right and pats r the only teams that i wanna mark with a Win
Let's all hold hands and walk into the Ocean. We will be fine. Nothing can hurt us.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
Hey guys guess who my landlord is
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
Im not JIBTA.
by howard is better than pujols on Oct 9, 2011 5:06 PM EDT reply actions
Brandon Whiting
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
Im not JIBTA.
by howard is better than pujols on Oct 9, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude.
You’re name angers me.
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
Eli Manning has the personality of a baked potato.
Howard is better?
Anyone who thinks Ryan Howard is better than Albert Pujols does not follow baseball.
"a fine doctor, and a pretty good dentist!"
by DrLeoSpaceman on Oct 9, 2011 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
There was a time when the argument could have been made, but those days are gone.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Long gone.
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
Eli Manning has the personality of a baked potato.
If an iron cross
fell from the top of a church steeple and pierced the skull of Albert Puhols…
he would still be better than Ryan, swing and a fucking miss, Howard.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
Is it a JIBTA reference?
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Its the baseball equivalent of JIBTA, only with less ellipses.
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
Eli Manning has the personality of a baked potato.
Ryan Howard
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
Could anyone make a logical argument
as to why we’re playing page? And why Jarret is still inactive when page is as bad as he is?
I don't think
there is an argument for why he is playing. Freakin start Coleman.
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
MonSTARZ forever!
5 games late
And they chose to bench Matthews…..4 games late.
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Page treats the coaches at IHoP?
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Page would be bankrupt
if he treated Andy Reid at iHOP
No way, man.
Only $4.99 for unlimited pancakes.
"On the flip side, though, Bleeding Green Nation cites a PFF study that says Jackson dropped the highest percentage of catchable passes (19.67 percent) of any receiver in the league last year. I think he also dropped that punt at the end of the last Giants game. But then he picked it back up."
by Mike757 on Oct 9, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
There’s no way Jarrett can be worse. No way.
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by JasonB on Oct 9, 2011 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Unless he missed a tackle, then immediately turned around and missed it again.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
In the process tripping every other Eagles player attempting to make the tackle
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Oct 9, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Didn’t Coleman do just that against the Giants. Garrett wouldn’t be worse in that case, he would just be equally bad haha.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
Though this seems like a perfect setup for Jarrett to come in and try to prove you wrong.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
At the worst, he’s as bad as Page, but at least we can tell ourselves that he’s a young player learning. Page isn’t learning anything.
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We might be better off playing 10 guys on D instead of having Page as the 11th.
Seriously, his angles of pursuit are so bad that not only does he have no chance of making a tackle himself but he cuts off his teammates from making one. Like Turner’s 60 yard run in the falcons game; DRC would have caught him after 20 if Page didn’t get in his way and trip him up.
Yes
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Worse pursuit angles I've ever seen.
Worst tackling attempts I’ve ever seen.
Slowest safety I’ve ever seen.
I will be FURIOUS if this guy is still on the roster after the bye week.
I'm starting to wonder...
Do u think Jarrett did something to piss Juan off to the point where he won’t even activate him? That’s the only explanation I can come up with.
"Get 'Em"
by FlyEagles15 on Oct 10, 2011 1:47 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
My only logical argument for Garrett being inactive is the fact that he’s DTO 2.0.
He’s not active because he just sucks. Plain and simple. That is the only possible reason as far as I can tell.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought he's suppose to be Dawkins 2.0
"Get 'Em"
by FlyEagles15 on Oct 10, 2011 1:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Presumably because he was better than Jarrett. Or I should say, Jarrett sucks more than he does. Which seems almost impossible, but that really is the only reason I can think of.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 10, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I would take a handful of dirt and start it over Page.
I would send ten men out there and scratch my balls and get better results than playing Page.
He is fucking worthless!! How ignorant is Squeaky Castillo for playing that fucking turd?
Pit Juan and Jarrod (sp?) in a death match and we will win regardless of who survives. BECAUSE ONE OF THEM WILL DIE!!!!
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
I think when they let Vick play his style of ball, he is awesome, when they try to make him play within the offense… Vick is not that great…
All I want is an Eagles win this week.
by Eagladelphia on Oct 9, 2011 5:07 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
By the way JasonB
I feel your pain for having to write up this up.
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Everybody seems to be blaming Castillo and the D
Did we watch the same game?
The offense turned the ball over 5 times, leading to 17 of the Bills’ 31 points. The defense allowed 14 points without those turnovers. Yet this was all Castillo’s fault?
The D sucks, but yet again, this was a team loss.
by theguyotc on Oct 9, 2011 5:08 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
to theguyotc: Castillo and the D:
continue to play matchup zones with Asomugha and DRC
continue to be unable to stop the run
continue to miss tackles (this may be the worst tackling game of the season)
Bad team tackling is wiithout a doubt a product of bad coaching.
So while this was by no means all Castillo’s fault, he played a monumental role in ensuring the loss.
by Eagles need to run on Oct 9, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
It looked to me like NA was
"Get 'Em"
by FlyEagles15 on Oct 10, 2011 1:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sorry.
NA played man all game.
"Get 'Em"
by FlyEagles15 on Oct 10, 2011 1:55 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This is true. However, the defense does have to make stops. Just because the offense turns it over, doesn’t mean the defense gets a free pass to give up 7 points.
Believe me, no one should be exonerating the offense, but the defense has been the enduring problem.
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The defense made stops at several points late
Of course the D has been the enduring problem. Who didn’t see that coming in the preseason? Who didn’t expect growing pains and sloppy play?
I can understand why the defense is bad. I can’t say the same about the offense.
the offense is bad because
They are completely unbalanced and predictable. 83% pass/17% run play selection over the past 2 weeks. LeSean McCoy 80 yards on just ELEVEN carries.
They try to use Michael Vick like he’s a 6’6 Peyton Manning, asking him to throw 50 times per game from the pocket. He needs to get on the edge and throw on the run where he can see his targets.
Again, this all goes back to stubbornness and ineptitude on the coaching staff. The league has passed Reid by. He’s lost the respect of the players. They think he’s a clown now, and they’re right.
Rec'd
for bringing logic to the thread.
You make a good point.
But the defense still has to make more stops. I mean we are looking at a defense whose in the midst of the longest active streak of allowing points in the red zone. I believe we’re at 50+ straight drives of allowing points in the red zone. The offense has to take some of the blame, for sure. But this defense is terrible. Asante, Nnamdi included. Not just the safeties and LB’s.
I'm still optimistic
Our defense played well in the 4th quarter, and we gotta give the ball to Shady more on offense. but really, i believe we can win before the bye week
"It's a high snap, gets it away. It's a kunckler, Jackson takes it at the 35, picks it up, looks for running room, he's at the 40, he's at the 45, midfield, he's at the 40, he's gonna go, DeSEAN JACKSON, he's running around, and there are no flags, and the Eagles win, the Eagles WIN! THIS IS MIRACLE IN THE MEADOWLANDS NUM-BER TWO!!"
-Merrill Reese and Mike Quick
by xADx GoGreen4Ever on Oct 9, 2011 5:08 PM EDT reply actions
That’s because we were loading the box and playing man more in the 4th.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
And they didn’t play well. They blew the the most important play!
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The fun is just getting started!
Its onto the draft and coaching candidates.
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i’m working on a post about that now but i stopped because it was making angry thinking about how bad juan and andy are
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Oct 9, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Just leave it to me. I’ve got an entire page on Microsoft word of just names.
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i’m fine with that i got halfway through the dc’s and stopped because I was thinking of how we could have got most of these guys before the season and it was just making me angry.
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Oct 9, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Can you please post a fan post or something on your site?
I need something to distract my mind for a few minutes before I hang myself in the clost with my Asante jersey.
Fly Eagles Fly, on the road to Vicktory!
by KeepSwinging on Oct 9, 2011 6:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Get Rid of Reid NOW
There is no reason to keep Reid, he has clearly lost his voice of influence over the locker room, it is bound to happen after 13 years and ZERO Titles……….no NFL experience as a player, so he has lost his connection with the team and clearly his bullshit of constantly saying “we have to do a better job” is completely old at this point. This season is done, lets face the reality of the fact eagles fans………..as T-Bird said in “The Crowe”……..there aint no comin back!!!! blow up the whole staff, and start fresh next year, promote Marty to “interim” head coach, and go after Cowlher or Gruden hard for next year, at least they have the hardware!!!
by ILnumber1eaglesfan on Oct 9, 2011 5:10 PM EDT reply actions
Gruden is a fucking shitty head coach!
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
Eli Manning has the personality of a baked potato.
So why would you want to bring in more shit?
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
Eli Manning has the personality of a baked potato.
Idk.
I would much rather have Reid than Gruden.
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
Eli Manning has the personality of a baked potato.
gruden is a shitty head coach
But still far better than Reid
Sorry, but there is absolutely no evidence to prove this.
And believe me, I’m fed up with Reid too.
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
Eli Manning has the personality of a baked potato.
I make better coaching decisions on Madden.
Crush them, my Birds!!! CRUSH THEM!!!!!!!!!
by EagleDomiNation on Oct 10, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions
JasonB basically just said the season is OVER in that write up. Just give up uh? Try no major scheme changes or adjustments?
“It should be painfully obvious that no change to the system can hide or mask how bad this defense is right now.’
And LOL at the wide 9 comments. Did you see those gaps? They ran the wide 9 on the fucking 1 yard line JasonB
dude not now please
We get it you hate the wide 9. Can you find something else to hate how about castillo? Or page or matthews? Please
Reporter: "What have you done for T.O., besides getting him suspended?"
Drew Rosenhaus: "Next question."
by So. Cal Swag on Oct 9, 2011 5:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Teams 1-4. THe last couple of years the wildcards is usually 10-6. with an occasional 9-7. The Eagles would have to finish the season 9-2 in the first instance, and 8-3 in the second instance
so yes, it looks like the Eagles playoff hopes have been shat on
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 9, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
No they didn't.
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That QB sneak that went for 5 yards tells me this wide 9 is a total disaster
Vick will go Bad Newz Kennels on that shitass secondary. - EvilBanner
by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Oct 9, 2011 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol
1 play means an entire scheme is a disaster?
"Get 'Em"
by FlyEagles15 on Oct 10, 2011 1:59 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Really guys...
after this game, I think we’re on verge of something great…
Can you tell if this is sarcastic or not ?
All I want is an Eagles win this week.
i couldn't but then i saw the name of the poster and then i knew
Reporter: "What have you done for T.O., besides getting him suspended?"
Drew Rosenhaus: "Next question."
by So. Cal Swag on Oct 9, 2011 5:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You guess wrong...
They actually played with a lot of heart, they’re on the up and up and Andy will keep them going… one game at a time… just blowout the Redskins and go into the bye week at 2-4 (it hurts just to type that record)…
All I want is an Eagles win this week.
stop trying to trick me!
Reporter: "What have you done for T.O., besides getting him suspended?"
Drew Rosenhaus: "Next question."
by So. Cal Swag on Oct 9, 2011 5:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I can’t blame Castillo for this loss solely this lies with Vick, the offensive co-ordinator, and Reid…face it guys we are deep sh*t…The defense honestly can only do so much if they are the field half the game…the bills played with a shorter field majority of the game…please explain to me once again why we have probably a top 5 back and he’s not getting 15-20 touches a game…
by eagles4evernsatx on Oct 9, 2011 5:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Please explain why this is on Vick?
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
Im not JIBTA.
by howard is better than pujols on Oct 9, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
vick played like a man possessed
he is a warrior
by samu el jax sun on Oct 9, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
“solely?”
Seriously?
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I understand that there were turnovers, and turn overs caused points, but aside from the pick 6 turnovers do not = points. The defense can make a stop after a turnover. Not saying the offense can’t be blamed, but no where near solely.
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Oct 9, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
you're way past dumb
Reporter: "What have you done for T.O., besides getting him suspended?"
Drew Rosenhaus: "Next question."
by So. Cal Swag on Oct 9, 2011 5:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd
for taking a cheap shot when someone isn’t looking… i think i’ll start calling you Dunta from now on…
All I want is an Eagles win this week.
lol everybody was watchin dunta im more like the guy who smashed nancy kerrigans knee
Reporter: "What have you done for T.O., besides getting him suspended?"
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by So. Cal Swag on Oct 9, 2011 5:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
On a positive note
The Eagles played well in the second half. The Eagles defense slowed down the Bills in the second half and shut them down in the 4th quarter. It seemed as though they let Nnamdi, Asante, and DRC lock down the WR and the rest of the team focused on the run and the defensive line got their sacks thanks to the great coverage. The offense started clicking in the second half. They need to continue to call plays with short routes so that Vick can get the ball out of his hands before he gets hit. Also, let Vick play like Michael Vick. Don’t make him a pocket passer because that’s taking away his mobility, which is what makes him special.
Let’s protect the ball please and continue playing defense like we did in the second half…more specifically, the 4th quarter….pleeeeeaaaase.
The Bills also lost their #2 receiver to injury, though he wasn’t having the best game at that point. It really limited the Bills offensively.But yes, when the Eagles’ DBs were allowed to actually cover the WRs, they did a great job shutting them and Fitzy down.
"Slowly all the roles we act out become our identity. And in the end we are what we pretend to be." - Jerry Cantrell.
They didn’t play well. They turned the ball over what? Three times? The defense still didn’t make stops.
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Major Scheme Changes and Adjustments
I think that is always the first response to hold onto some hope, but lets face it boys, this team lacks fundamental football skills, ie tacklling, penalties………did anyone notice how Vick still holds the ball and DJ holds the ball? How is that overlooked???? The problems that the Eagles have are much deeper than scheme changes and adjustments…………this is an undisciplined team that has tuned out their head coach and a head coach who is desperately trying to keep his job!!!!
by ILnumber1eaglesfan on Oct 9, 2011 5:16 PM EDT reply actions
I'm with you on the lack of discipline
Lack of appropriate attention to critical details has been a hallmark of the entire Andy Reid tenure. This attitude appears to have infected the entire team, from coaches on down.
To give just one example, we have consistently been among the most penalized teams in the league, for the past several years. If that isn’t a result of a lack of discipline, I don’t know what is. Remember, the players have changed quite a bit in that time, but he one constant has been the coaching staff.
by Eagles need to run on Oct 9, 2011 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Loleagles?
Can we start a loleagles section, instead of lolskins?
by Eaglesarelosingforluck on Oct 9, 2011 5:16 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
no
Reporter: "What have you done for T.O., besides getting him suspended?"
Drew Rosenhaus: "Next question."
by So. Cal Swag on Oct 9, 2011 5:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It’s the whole site at this point.
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by JasonB on Oct 9, 2011 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
I think I just spit up !!!
It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.
the day we only score 3 points with this offense, is the day ill give everyone a dollar haha
by bleedgreen89 on Sep 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
by JJeaglerooter on Oct 9, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
agree a hundred percent on the page thing
it took juan 5 weeks to figure out page is absolute sh*t? really??
Lurie needs to break out some Al Capone shit this week.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
amen brother!
I couldn’t agree more with page. There was a reason we got that fucken bum off the streets in mid training camp. Get jarrett in there. There’s no way it could be any worse
by phightin_iggles on Oct 9, 2011 5:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
And honestly someone needs to light a fire under they a$$…I do believe sitting Vick one game to get a message across him that he needs to get his sh!t together…5 turnovers 4 by your qb…how many turnovers has he had this season please someone find out
by eagles4evernsatx on Oct 9, 2011 5:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
STFU
MAYBE 1 of those TOs are on him. He threw 416 last week and 300+ this week. This game and season isn’t on Vick.
So GTFO.
Eagles: 1-4, I still have hope!
Flyers: Good start
Phillies: Sigh
Shut up. Brady also had 4 pics against this teams. it happens
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Oct 9, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Benching your best player
is definitely not the answer. 2 of those 4 picks were fluke plays, one was a result of him getting hit from behind as he threw it and the pick six was the only one that you can point at and say was a really bad play
everyone
Wants to let Vick slide on everything. Vick has had a mediocre season. All the turnovers, the fumbles the INTs. The dumbass play before the end of the first half. Come on man we have u a huge contract, can’t be mediocre
by phightin_iggles on Oct 9, 2011 5:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
To eagles4evernsatx: only 1 of the 4 INTs can be said to be Vick's fault.
1) One was obviously due to Jason Avant failing to secure the ball after he caught it
2) One was due to a stupid play call on which Vick was asked to throw a blind screen (fake right, turn around and immediately throw a screen left), resulted in a tipped ball that was intercepted
3) On the other 2, he was hit while throwing. However one can argue that the decision to throw to to Brent Celek was not a good one, therefore he has some blame for that INT.
by Eagles need to run on Oct 9, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Did anybody see that stat during the game that Fitzpatrick only had 2 pass attempts over 10 yards? Wow.
Eagles: 1-4, I still have hope!
Flyers: Good start
Phillies: Sigh
No, but it doesn't suprise me
All they did was run it down our throats the whole game, and when they weren’t doing that, they just ran screens. Fitz had very little to do with the outcome of this game.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
anyone watch andy reids post game? looked like he was going to cry, ive never seen him like that before
"Buddy doesn't have many rules but one of them is don't lose to the Cowboys."
Yea, he was ready to get outta there.
by Eaglesarelosingforluck on Oct 9, 2011 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
calling it a DREAM for this TEAM to get there
Someone get espn to offer me a job!
Reporter: "What have you done for T.O., besides getting him suspended?"
Drew Rosenhaus: "Next question."
by So. Cal Swag on Oct 9, 2011 5:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I haven’t watched espn in 4 weeks….
All I want is an Eagles win this week.
by Eagladelphia on Oct 9, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yup
And a week later we will be calling 11-5, then 10-6, then 9-7, then 8-8, then 7-9…
But we won’t quit on this team. I won’t.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Fuck no. I’m here til the end.
Eagles: 1-4, I still have hope!
Flyers: Good start
Phillies: Sigh
by bdawk4ever on Oct 9, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ME TOO
And if Dallas is the only other team we beat…….so be it.
It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.
the day we only score 3 points with this offense, is the day ill give everyone a dollar haha
by bleedgreen89 on Sep 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
by JJeaglerooter on Oct 9, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
As am I
You don’t fucking give up on the Eagles because they going through a rough time, you fucking bleed Green no matter the circumstance. Yeah, our FO is fucking shit up right now but we as Philly fans have show that even if these assanine coaches are sucking the heart outta the team they won’t get ours. We don’t hide our colors because that would make us Cowboys. We stay Bleeding Green because we as Eagles fans are invincible (yes, I went there).
Even cats bleed Eagle green. . .
by The11thLetter on Oct 9, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
12-4 is a little bit of a stretch...
11-5 and 10-6 are still very reasonable, if we can get our act together (big if, I know), but we need to turn this around right now.
The sad thing is, though, that even at 9-7 we could still feasibly win the division.
You don't what I meant
In my mind, I see this as a team that will be lucky to go 6-10. They simply find ways to lose games.
But in my heart, I always see this as a team that will win the rest of its games en route to the Super Bowl. And that will never change
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
that's just delusional, not even optimistic
we don’t have the talent at LB or safety to mount that kind of season-comeback.
Maybe if we had all the right pieces, and just had to make a few tweaks, but we don’t have the right pieces. No combination of Coleman/Page is going to lock down the back half of the field
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
you know what though, we wouldn't need Coleman/Page
to lock down the back half if we stuck our 3 man corners and made them each shut down one WR. Then bring one of the safeties into the box to help stuff the run and leave the other for help over the top.
Conventional wisdom says to emphasize your strengths and hide your weakness, but we have instead taken away the man coverage responsibilities from our CBs who excel at it, and placed major matchup zone responsibilities on everyone even though our safeties and LB are awful at it.
Mindboggling, to say the least.
by Eagles need to run on Oct 9, 2011 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
100 Million
I still dont know why Lurie had to rush and sign Vick to 100M after not even playing a full season as the number 1 QB on the depth chart…………that right there shows you the mentality of the higher ups…………….DJ earned it, much more than Vick…………..
by ILnumber1eaglesfan on Oct 9, 2011 5:20 PM EDT reply actions
Laughable
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Oct 9, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
This is the dumbest comment yet. DJ earned WHAT, exactly? He gets 5 or 6 touches a game. Vick carried us through an entire fucking season.
Wow…seriously
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
ARe you kidding me?????
Carried us through what??? a one and done to Green Bay??? talk about dumbest comment!!!!!!
yeah did he carry us through the final games of the season when we could have wrapped up the number 2 seed in the playoffs………….carried us……………..nice post!!!
by ILnumber1eaglesfan on Oct 9, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
And what would have been our record without Vick? Huuh? Let’s see you answer that asshole.
We don’t make the playoffs without beating the Giants and we don’t beat the Giants without Vick. Boom. Fuck you.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
DJ Asshole!!!!
Who won the game against the giants??? a certain punt return…………BOOM asshole FUCK you!!!!
by ILnumber1eaglesfan on Oct 9, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
YUP CLAP IT FOR THE GENIUS
And Djax scored the other 21 points too?
Oh no…what’s that you say…oh thats right THE FUCKING COMEBACK WAS LED BY VICK MORON
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
dude you aint gonna get me to change my mind
Vick is one of the most overhyped players in the league……………..mark my word it is McNabb #2, he will win games, he may make the playoffs, hell he may even make it through a season with limited injuries, but he WILL NEVER, LEAD this team to a parade down Broad St………..
by ILnumber1eaglesfan on Oct 9, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't trying to change your mind
I was just trying to demonstrate how fucking stupid you are…but you helped me out a lot on that so thanks
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
thats funny..........
thought the same about you…….
by ILnumber1eaglesfan on Oct 9, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup
I’m the one who thinks it’s wiser to give 100 mil to a diva receiver who touches the ball maybe 5 times a game than to a quarterback with a cannon arm, great speed and accuracy, and ability to make clutch plays.
You lose GTFO
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Not so wise there champ!!!
Wiser, Really?? yeah I guess your right, 8 TDS, 7 INTS, 7 TOTAL FUMBLES, 3 of those lost………………….yeah those are stats for someone to get a 100 million dollar contract and those are definately stats for someone who is carrying a team………….dude you should heed your own advice and GTFO, cause as this post gets longer you are sounding stupider and stupider…………
by ILnumber1eaglesfan on Oct 9, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
Flacco has to trust his receivers to make catches, but shouldn’t throw towards coverage. He needs to attack deep more often, but shouldn’t hold onto the ball so long. He needs to show more awareness in the pocket and move to extend plays, but nothing good comes of him leaving the pocket. He should run with the ball if nobody’s open, but he definitely can’t run with the ball.
Flacco should have the awareness of Roethlisberger, the elusiveness of Vick, the control of the offense of Manning, the leadership of Brady, the accuracy of Brees, and the arm strength of … Flacco? - Ampallang
You said
DJax deserved that money…
Which is bullshit. That’s all I was saying.
Is Vick worth 100 mil? I mean I’m not going to judge on 4 games.
Is DJax worth 100 mil? Hell no. Not in a million years. There are two wide receivers (maybe 3) worth that money and he is far down the list.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
make note:
your = you’re.
definately = definitely
stupider = more stupid
…………….. = useless filler
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by Mike757 on Oct 9, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
8 TD’s (at least 3 dropped)
7 int’s (2 from drops, 1 hit the ground, 1 tipped)
3 lost fumbles ( 2 from horrible play calling)
He makes what he makes because with out him this team has no chance. You put another QB in there and he’s on IR in 3 weeks…
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Oct 9, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
things will be ok if ....
eagles beat washington
giants lose next week
pats / dallas game is no gimmee
most important thing atm is to get the ship righted, i dont think the def cord can’t do it, so its gonna fall on the def players themselves.
yeah the 100 mil for vick had me scratchin my head, id have waited at least another year to see for myself.
woman !, don't try to understand em, don't try to make them understand you, for they are a breed apart ! lol
(redskins)= A Tale of 2 owners, bought by Snyder, OWNED by the COWBOYS
Id say RIP Al Davis, but i know your up there drunker than a monkey and clocking angels in the 40 yd dash.
It's not vicks fault
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
Im not JIBTA.
by howard is better than pujols on Oct 9, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
He is the only reason we almost won
He had the tying TD called back by a rookie guard
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
Im not JIBTA.
by howard is better than pujols on Oct 9, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea he played great
picks weren’t his fault, more of a combination of bad luck and our line not picking up blizters. Also it seems vick played throuhg pain the whole game
Definitely
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
Im not JIBTA.
by howard is better than pujols on Oct 9, 2011 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions
sadly, this guy is still better than reid/castillo at this point..
I hate new york.
by XxActionJacksonxX on Oct 10, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
That's b/c I'm still shellshocked from the phillies
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
Im not JIBTA.
by howard is better than pujols on Oct 9, 2011 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
His stupid decisions is why its his fault…the call right before half…holding onto the ball too long to where he gets hit…how much did we pay him…F..k that his play is inexcusable…yeah he will get the highlight play yeah and what…he’s not on the same level he was last year face the facts…when we benches mcnabb he came back tore it up do the same that’s all I’m saying
by eagles4evernsatx on Oct 9, 2011 5:22 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
i agree
With you. Vick has been mediocre this year. Mediocre shouldn’t get 100 mil. He is the reason we came back but IS also one of the reasons we were so far behind to begone with
by phightin_iggles on Oct 9, 2011 5:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, cause 416 yards and 315 yards equals medocre.
Eagles: 1-4, I still have hope!
Flyers: Good start
Phillies: Sigh
Yeah and 7 ints and 3 lost fumbles after week 5 is worth 100 million
by phightin_iggles on Oct 9, 2011 5:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, given that 4 ints at least weren’t on him, and all the other things he gives us, he is worth $80 million.
Eagles: 1-4, I still have hope!
Flyers: Good start
Phillies: Sigh
vick apologists
Let me guess the pic 6 today wasn’t hicks fault, it was actually andys right?
by phightin_iggles on Oct 9, 2011 5:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It was still a shitty read. And it was a pass with all of Vick’s zip still on it. The pick-six is still completely on him.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
"To catch theme is my real test, to train them is my cause."
by Imp on Oct 9, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven’t seen the replay, but the announcers were pretty adamant that he turned his back to the defense (!!!!). If that was the play design, its Andy’s fault, if that wasn’t the play design its either a) Vick’s fault or b) the o-lines fault.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions
the pick six was definitely Vick's fault
the other 3 were kind of fluky
tipped ball
On the screen was all Vicks fault too
by phightin_iggles on Oct 9, 2011 5:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I missed
that one on the telecast, didn’t see it.
I disagree, it was a shit play. The fake to the right was pointless and, like the announcer pointed out, it kept him from seeing the defense. The play design literally had him throwing the ball blind. Which is ridiculous.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
No
That was on him, but the other three were not. Certainly not the last one or the first one.
And the fact is with a very green offensive line, even Tom Brady would make some turnovers.
He made some mistakes don’t get me wrong. One that nobody is talking about is near the end of the first half (the second to last play actually) he got the ball late to an open DJax at the 4. Would ahve put us right on the goal line (or maybe Desean could have scored), but Vick was late on the read and the ball was knocked down
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
If you’re going to do that, we could also say that he only ‘threw’ one TD pass today, since the screen to Jackson was a glorified rushing down.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
fair enough
That leaves him with a ton of yardage though.
I would say there were two legit picks. BUt even with 4…Tom Brady had 4 picks against this D. It happens. Vick also made a lot of big plays.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Serious question:
If Eli Manning threw those 4 picks, are you honestly saying that you wouldn’t be laughing your ass off at Giants fans who said that none of them were Eli’s fault? Because I would be.
by licensetochill on Oct 9, 2011 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right
Now here’s another serious question: Do you want to bench Vick? What other qb’s would you rather have?
Me: No, and Rodgers, Brady, Peyton, Brees. That’s it.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Stop with that. Saying it over and over won’t make it true.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Saying it over and over won’t make it false.
Its true, none of the 4 ints were on him. Look at the damn video.
Eagles: 1-4, I still have hope!
Flyers: Good start
Phillies: Sigh
Add to that how many of the previous ones were on him. Like I said, even the great Tom Brady threw 4 Int’s against this defense and has 6 on the year…
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Oct 9, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Pocket awareness and decision-making are on the QB. The Avant one is the only one that you could excuse. Saying he got hit doesn’t excuse him, it’s football, you get hit.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
the tipped ball on the screen?
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Oct 9, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
So let me guess the first pic Vick threw it wasn’t his fault it was defenders fault who tipped it in the air right?
by phightin_iggles on Oct 9, 2011 5:46 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
all im
sayin is Vick has got to be held responsible for his Fuck ups. Nobody wants to blame anything on Vick
by phightin_iggles on Oct 9, 2011 5:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
on the first pick
the play called by AR/MM was a risky one. Vick was asked to fake right, turn around, and immediately throw left. No time to survey the defense at all. That is what’s called a blind screen. I would blame the play call/coaches on that pick.
by Eagles need to run on Oct 9, 2011 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions
3 of the 4 ints are on vick, 100% on him
by phightin_iggles on Oct 9, 2011 5:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
no shit
I’m sayin those three ints are 100% Vicks fault. Like all on him, get it?
by phightin_iggles on Oct 9, 2011 5:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
and BTW
We completely wasted our money on smith and brown. Esp when we could have used that money to get a player like tulloch
by phightin_iggles on Oct 9, 2011 6:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
what the hell
does that picture have to do with anything?
I'm great like Gatsby.
by Clint Eastwood on Oct 9, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
How can you not see?.
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
Im not JIBTA.
by howard is better than pujols on Oct 9, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
taco troll? mexican troll? taco monkey?
I dont get it
Reporter: "What have you done for T.O., besides getting him suspended?"
Drew Rosenhaus: "Next question."
by So. Cal Swag on Oct 9, 2011 5:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Watching us lose 4 in a row, brings back memories of the Rich Kotite years.
by Eaglesarelosingforluck on Oct 9, 2011 5:24 PM EDT reply actions
I was just telling my wife that...
I haven’t seen and Eagles team this bad since Uptite…How bout this notion…. Cowher and Fisher are out there…
Either
A change just has to be made. Same old crap every week isn’t gonna cut it. Reid has become arrogant now to.
by Eaglesarelosingforluck on Oct 9, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I think AR is gone after season...
Lurie should see that he has lost the locker room…maybe they should enter the Suck for Luck sweepstakes…
WE DONT NEED LUCK.......
We need an o-line with enough beef to keep blitzers on their ass.I know….it is nice that they now have speed guys to make downfield blocks for shady,but for christsakes they gotta either beef’em up a little or figure a way to knock the blitzers out of the picyure.No qb can function 100 percent getting boxed and chased like this.
It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.
the day we only score 3 points with this offense, is the day ill give everyone a dollar haha
by bleedgreen89 on Sep 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
by JJeaglerooter on Oct 9, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Can Luck play LB?
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Most talented 1-4 team ever?
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
Im not JIBTA.
by howard is better than pujols on Oct 9, 2011 5:25 PM EDT reply actions
Why is no one mentioning the end of 1st half
and the lack of timeouts, and the not kicking a FG
its andy reid
when saying something positive about him, sarcasm is already implied.
by BleedinGreen116 on Oct 9, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
dude criticizing the eagles this much
Cant you get fired since you work for them? Like thay worker did when dawkins got let go
Reporter: "What have you done for T.O., besides getting him suspended?"
Drew Rosenhaus: "Next question."
by So. Cal Swag on Oct 9, 2011 5:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Please just please ..
don’t let Andy be here to wow us with his 13 draft day picks who all suck or are avg n of midget size…because I know Lurie is counting his money n laughing !!! Smdh…When will the Andy Reid nightmare end ??? He’s cost us at least 2 Superbowls already !!!!
i unfortunately agree
if we win even 4 games, he stays
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
No bob Laurie
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
Im not JIBTA.
by howard is better than pujols on Oct 9, 2011 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
Reporter: "What have you done for T.O., besides getting him suspended?"
Drew Rosenhaus: "Next question."
by So. Cal Swag on Oct 9, 2011 5:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well we're atleast going 2-14
Don’t forget the Dallas game after the bye week. Reid ownes the bye as it is a big nice sandwish
The funny thing about this one is
that we almost had it at the end… you could the Bills players getting all scared… and the crowd ready to hang their heads… and then Watkins, Avant and Parker happened…
All I want is an Eagles win this week.
Scoreboard: Battle lines currently being drawn
Vick apologists vs. Vick critics.
Wide-niners vs. people who want just about any other scheme.
Player-blamers vs. coach-blamers vs. everybody-blamers.
Doomsday prophets vs… well not really vs. anyone at this point.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Everybody-blamers are wazzup
We need a gang sign…EvilBanner do you have any ideas?
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
I am an "Everybody Blamer..."
…but the fish rots from the head. You have to fire Reid now. It absolutely cannot get any worse.
God Damn you, Andy Reid.
That’s the question I asked on twitter.
How WORSE can the Eagles get if they fire Reid?
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Oct 9, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
We’re not making the playoffs anyway. Tanking like that would only help us in the draft.
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Oct 9, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Fuck the draft. I’ll never root for a loss.
We’re going 10-6 and the playoffs.
Eagles: 1-4, I still have hope!
Flyers: Good start
Phillies: Sigh
There were five teams that ever did this.
None of these teams had such a fucking fat disgrace for a head coach and such a worthless pussy for a defensive coordinator.
God Damn you, Andy Reid.
You do understand that means the Eagles would have to go 9 – 2 for the rest of the year, right?
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I again have to disagree with you. We are 1) certainly not out of the wild card and 2) not out of the division.
Of course this assumes we turn things around, but check the standings, neither of those two situations is that outlandish.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions
phase out plan should start right away
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FLY #7 FLY !
by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 9, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
but Reid wont get fired until
they are officially out of the playoffs
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FLY #7 FLY !
by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 9, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Vick apologist
Wide-niners with changes to the db scheme
everyone blamer
behind the eagles till the end
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Oct 9, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.
the day we only score 3 points with this offense, is the day ill give everyone a dollar haha
by bleedgreen89 on Sep 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
by JJeaglerooter on Oct 9, 2011 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's see I think this is how I break down:
Vick (semi-)critic – I think he is a great player and worth his contract, but to not hold him accountable for some of his decision is just silly. Even if every INT isn’t his fault, some are and he does hold onto the ball too long at times. Fumbles are also usually his fault.
Wide-niner – Our LBs are so overmatched that I don’t think it would matter what scheme we ran in terms of run-D. At least the D-line has been getting some results. If our secondary scheme wasn’t so stupid the two units could work together nicely.
Everybody blamer – Coaching has been shit; talent is being misused; some players simply aren’t good enough; a lot of players simply aren’t executing. Nobody should feel they are without blame except for McCoy, Babin, Jenkins and any players who hasn’t been given a shot to actually play.
Clear eyes, full bologna sandwiches!
Oh, yea forgot the last one:
Doomsday prophet – Let’s be real, the season is over. This team ain’t making the playoffs without some kind of miracle turnaround.
Clear eyes, full bologna sandwiches!
But not on that
Spent four years in Michigan if there’s one thing I learned it’s DON’T STOP BELIEVIN
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
To all the people who call for Vick to be benched, can you imagine this team without his influence. He is one of the lone sparks… the real motivators on this team. Once the stopped all the fancy bull shit how much better did this offense operate. Stop being cute on both sides of the ball.
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Oct 9, 2011 5:29 PM EDT reply actions
I agree
Imagine how bad we would be without Vick? Don’t wanna even think about it.
by Eaglesarelosingforluck on Oct 9, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think people want him to be benched
At the same time, they recognize that he’s making mistakes.
I mean Pats fans are allowed to criticize Brady. Does that mean they want to bench or trade him? No. But everybody makes mistakes.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
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We don’t usually jump offsides…………………..but when we do……………………..its when the entire fucking planet knows the ball is not going to be snapped!!!!
by Whiskeysour on Oct 9, 2011 5:31 PM EDT reply actions 17 recs
lol win
Reporter: "What have you done for T.O., besides getting him suspended?"
Drew Rosenhaus: "Next question."
by So. Cal Swag on Oct 9, 2011 5:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Please JasonB
Make this the new BGN slogan at the top.
Nnamdi has his continent, Asante has his no fly zone, and Mr. Rodgers has his neighborhood.
by NorthernEagle on Oct 10, 2011 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions
He should have the good sense to quietly sneak off in the night...
…and never be heard from again.
God Damn you, Andy Reid.
Didn’t the d coach warn them that no juan should jump offsides on this one…
All I want is an Eagles win this week.
He did, but Juan guy didn't listen
Vick will go Bad Newz Kennels on that shitass secondary. - EvilBanner
by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Oct 9, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
if they fired reid and juan today who would step in as coach until the season is over
"Buddy doesn't have many rules but one of them is don't lose to the Cowboys."
a person
other than them… immediate upgrade
by BleedinGreen116 on Oct 9, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Interim Coach. Then we figure out who the long term candidate is for next year.
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Oct 9, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
morninwheg?
Reporter: "What have you done for T.O., besides getting him suspended?"
Drew Rosenhaus: "Next question."
by So. Cal Swag on Oct 9, 2011 5:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They wouldn't
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Bobby April. I’d be open to him as a permanent replacement. Dude can flat out coach his ass off and he is a great motivator.
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the mistake youre making is letting this shit get to you
I eat sentimentality for breakfast, but stats stop me dead in my tracks
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 9, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Isn't that free now?
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
Im not JIBTA.
by howard is better than pujols on Oct 9, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
There are 31 other teams to enjoy with the Sunday Ticket
Vick will go Bad Newz Kennels on that shitass secondary. - EvilBanner
by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Oct 9, 2011 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Here is my suggestion—fire Reid. No need to go out-of-house for a new HC. It’s clear that JC has just the right type of mind to be HC. Imagine, he will just know how to set-up the o-line to deal with the defense, then, using that same knowledge of the o-line, he can scheme for the defense as well.
Has to be
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
Im not JIBTA.
by howard is better than pujols on Oct 9, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Does Mike Patterson still play ??
Gotta be the most invisible player I have ever seen….nice 1st rd pick to add to the many !!!!
/fatman'd
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
Im not JIBTA.
by howard is better than pujols on Oct 9, 2011 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
well..
he never impressed me..never gets a push n dont stop the run which was supposed to be his strength !!!
nice 1st rd pick to add to the many
Have you not watched any seasons before this one? He does not put up flashy stats. He usually takes up blockers.
Patterson hasn't been good.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
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Are you really trying to blame Patterson right now?
At this point, if you haven’t noticed a player at least that means he isn’t actively causing touchdowns.
Clear eyes, full bologna sandwiches!
Also
Something has to be done about Asante playing 5 miles off on 3rd and 5. They went after him alot today.
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Oct 9, 2011 5:35 PM EDT reply actions
He is just thinking about how is gonna spend his game check and where he will be next year.
by Eaglesarelosingforluck on Oct 9, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
only time he's good
is when the qb throws a horrible pass
by BleedinGreen116 on Oct 9, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
As shitty as that game was and all the problems Eagles only lost 31-24
Not much to be happy about……but?
No..a win creates false hope
and therefor a lack of accountability at seasons end…major losses are needed to finally get the change we need
True
but i do have a little hope that with some adjustments and scheme tweeks things can be better
with some adjustments and scheme tweaks from week 2, things were worse in week 3
then with some adjustments and tweaks, week 4 was worse.
then with some adjustments and tweaks, week 5 was even worse than 4.
Sense a pattern here? The foundation of this team stinks.
Lack of attention to detail, lack of discipline, an inability or unwillingness to exploit other team’s weaknesses, etc.
by Eagles need to run on Oct 9, 2011 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Wrong
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This team needs to go 2-14, 1-15.
If not, nothing changes, Reid keeps his job and it’s 6-10, 7-9 next year too.
God Damn you, Andy Reid.
Never seen
Players look lost out there on defense. I put that on coaching, but starting to see players give up on plays or take plays off. Never seen that from eagles players before. It is effin embarrassing out there!!!!!!
by Eaglesarelosingforluck on Oct 9, 2011 5:39 PM EDT reply actions
DRC
was jogging after his guy caught the ball on one play, it seemed like he was hoping someone else would miss make the tackle.
You saw that, too, right?
It was DRC’s guy, too. And he’s literally..walking..as the receiver is running right past him.
by LegendKnight22 on Oct 9, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s fucking embrassing being an Eagles fan
Last name Ever
First name Greatest
Pay DeSean Jackson
by Djax10 on Oct 9, 2011 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
You're lucky
I’m in Manhattan, it’ll be unbearable if the Giants take the division this year
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
You
young bucks are really gonna earn your Eagle feathers this year…
All I want is an Eagles win this week.
Tell me about it.
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by Illadelphia-Braintrust on Oct 9, 2011 5:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nah
Just frustrating. And sadly, I am used to it.
Why come you don't have a tattoo?
by goodfella46er on Oct 9, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
so.
suck it up, or gtfo
It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.
the day we only score 3 points with this offense, is the day ill give everyone a dollar haha
by bleedgreen89 on Sep 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
by JJeaglerooter on Oct 9, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I know.
Being all endangered n shit!
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
Eli Manning has the personality of a baked potato.
I would never root for the Eagles to lose, but I’m not getting any more emotionally wrapped up in this team. For my own sanity. The stupidity and lack of heart I’ve seen the last few weeks has been staggering. Sure, they have flashes where they look like they care, but then something happens and it gets shot to hell. As far as I’m concerned this starts at the top. Andy has had his shot. Unless there is a DRAMATIC change in the way this team plays for the rest of the season then Andy has to go.
Andy’s the one who put this team together. He’s the one who hires these coaches. This is HIS team; he created it. It’s in his image. reflects his vision of what an NFL team should be. If they stink, then that’s on him too. Period.
Fire Juan...
Andy, I just don’t know.. I just don’t know.
I’ve been clamoring for Jaiqwan to touch the field, especially w/ the terrible play of Page. Now we clearly see why he was merely a situational player in NE.
Jason Avant.. That second turnover he was responsible for, was an effort play turned bad. Should have made the reception the first go around. The first and most blatant turnover he was responsible for, shouldn’t have even happened. The play prior, we set up a perfect screen for LeSean and ge flat out dropped it. They’re both equally responsible in my eyes.
To close the half, that was definitely Vick’s brain fart. More than enough time to determine whether the shot was there or if the ball needed to be tossed away. Can’t fault Andy there.
Just, don’t know.. Bedlam in Philadelphia. Lynn, our secondary coach will more than likely be handed the reins to close the year. They were literally playing pitch and catch on 3rd throughout most of the game. & did you notice that we led the NFL in redzone possessions? This team is so ass-backwards.
The
'Study long. ... Study wrong. ..' Chad Butler
by Illadelphia-Braintrust on Oct 9, 2011 5:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
He must still be drinking after the game.
by Eaglesarelosingforluck on Oct 9, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
That fat fucking walrus.
Why come you don't have a tattoo?
by goodfella46er on Oct 9, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
haha
I dont know who I’m more mad it… him for being a fat fucking walrus, or me for supporting him during all those NFC Championship game losses. (makiing us known as the junior varsity buffalo bills.)
I also blame the fat man for us not getting a FG at the end of the 1st half. Clearly his clock management disease infected Vick.
Why come you don't have a tattoo?
by goodfella46er on Oct 9, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Why…..why are my birds so horrible?
Crush them, my Birds!!! CRUSH THEM!!!!!!!!!
by EagleDomiNation on Oct 10, 2011 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions
nice to finally have a goalie at least
but don’t worry, 8 more months to go before they’re the next ones to let us down
Hit Squad is in the house! 60 minutes, balls out; let's open up the whole can of kick ass and kill 'em all! Let the paramedics sort 'em out!!
playoffs?!?
I don’t care who you play, whether it’s a high school team, a junior college team, a college team, much less an NFL team: when you turn the ball over FIVE times, four interceptions, one for a touchdown, 3 others in field position to set up touchdowns, you ain’t gonna beat anybody I just talked about, anybody alright… that was a disgraceful performance in my opinion. We threw that game we gave it away by doing that, we gave ’em the freakin game… in my opinion that sucked.
Hit Squad is in the house! 60 minutes, balls out; let's open up the whole can of kick ass and kill 'em all! Let the paramedics sort 'em out!!
by BMitch on Oct 9, 2011 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Dreading
next sunday is gonna suck and be the icing on the cake. lolskins are coming.
by Eaglesarelosingforluck on Oct 9, 2011 5:46 PM EDT reply actions
Unless we win, in which case we’re right back in this thing.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions
2-4 yeah right
right back in it? say that if we turn this around and are 6-4
by bleedingreen4life on Oct 9, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
If we win next week
We’ll be at worst 2 games out of first place in the NFC East. Down but definitely not out.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly what i said
none of that zone horse shit
by BleedinGreen116 on Oct 9, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
The saddest part in all of this (for me atleast) is that at the beginning of the season we took a Colts fans hat and hung it up in the duct work in the shop and told him it could come down when they won. My Vick jersey was placed up there a couple games later, and at this point I’m unsure of who’s will end up coming down first.
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Oct 9, 2011 5:50 PM EDT reply actions
It is also about expectations of Jeff Lurie
We don’t know what kind of conversation took place when when everybody sat down and talked about hiring Juan, if the expectations were the defense would struggle at the beginning (and what the definition of beginning is).
Did Lurie clearly know signing Vick to a big contract was rolling the dice? I’m sure he did based on Vick’s career track record. I think every owner and GM go in the season with a contigency plan when an HC has been in place a long time and things go really poorly. Will be interesting to see what happens if the team gets to 2-7 or 2-8.
I'm trying to watch another game to get my mind off of this,
but the Patriots are playing like the Eagles (well, no one can emulate our defense, but mistake wise).
I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.
Tampa is getting hammered by San Fran
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Oct 9, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
at least we have the best flag football team in the nfl
JoeD AKA The Voice Of Reason
by Joe_D on Oct 9, 2011 5:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I know this will get me killed on here, but I have two words for you guys. Two words that will save the Eagles.
Bill
Cowher
atleast he showed some intensity
andy doesnt get excited about anything but eating
by BleedinGreen116 on Oct 9, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's a number: 0
Number of times an already Super Bowl winning coach took another team and won the Super Bowl.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
"To catch theme is my real test, to train them is my cause."
by Imp on Oct 9, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Nah
Defensive adjustments and scheme tweeks could save the season.
Didn’t this week. Unless you’re still pretending that they ran the same wide nine this week?
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He doesn't actually watch the games, Jason.
He just repeats the same comments over and over again based on a few things announcers and analysts have said over the past week.
by licensetochill on Oct 9, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Scheme wise they did not change much except a little man coverage and the series with the Man-Blitzes (2) which worked.
They have only been shuffling players or even better blaming players.
Well
You must have been watching the Boston College Eagles
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Got it DVRed you guys are full of shit
Did you see the fitzpatrick sneak or when they were in the wide 9 on the 1 or 2 yard line.
Someone else even commented during the game on an older thread when it happened
by ZX2355 on Oct 9, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
That wasn’t wide nine. The wide nine doesn’t involve playing no MIKE LB. Who knows why they had no MIKE in the game
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B/c we have no one qualified to play it?
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Yes, they more or less have no Mike on most plays anyway.
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Does Santonio Holmes still play?
or is hurt?
I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.
Since we don't have incentive to Suck for Luck
Is it time to start a ‘Play weakly for Kuechly’ campaign? We need an upgrade at the LB position.
Draft a linebacker in the first round? What drugs are you on?
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
"To catch theme is my real test, to train them is my cause."
by Imp on Oct 9, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Why “or”? We have 2 second round picks. Move up and get them both.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
We could give the potential #1 an ass ton of things
if they happen to be a team that has a QB they like, for the number 1.
I do want Luck bad.
by TheDtrain on Oct 9, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If...
we could convert Vick to a RB/WR, I’d be all for it.
"If chaos drives, let suffering hold the reins!"
by PhillyFan20XX on Oct 9, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Let Luck develope a year or 2
then get rid of vick for something valuable. Luck is going to be Brady.
Which still wouldn’t make a difference because teams could still score at will.
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Oct 9, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Just to have him abused behind a piece of shit LOS? Brady and guys like that do what they do because they have time to. Brady doesn’t get hit. You put a rookie behind our o line and he will shit the bed.
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Oct 9, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Give me the second coming of Jesus at LB.
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Why not Suck for Luck?
Vick is our QB for now, but I wouldn’t mind giving Luck the Steve Young/ Aaron Rodgers treatment.
Clear eyes, full bologna sandwiches!
Also
I am sure it has been discussed here before, but where are the deep pass attempts we saw last season? Are we looking for them and they are just covered or are they not even being called?
Well...
At least I got my CAI on my car today. Cutting my fingers on sharp engine bay parts and drinking beer while listening to the game was maddening I’ll tell ya.
Atleast I won’t get mad at how awful we are now that the postseason is next to impossible. We play well I’ll just be thrilled to watch a good game. We play miserable I’ll just be thrilled for a good draft pick and no Reid.
no
shitty playcalls on D still ruin it regardless…
by BleedinGreen116 on Oct 9, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
McDermont is laughing right now!!!
This is what McDermont thinks of Reid —→“Fucking fat ass andy…. you dumb fat fuck”
by Eagles_DevilDawg on Oct 9, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Never thought I'd admit to missing McDermott...
But suddenly I’m remembering his successes (particularly the Indianapolis game) much more distinctly than his failures. Given the talent we have on defense this year, and assuming we had re-signed Mikell, we might have had a great team this year.
Because let’s face it, getting as far as we did with Dmitri Patterson as a starting corner was pretty impressive.
by licensetochill on Oct 9, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly....
Given the talent he had he actually did good ..and I thght the playoff game saved him but Andy knows best…All he had too do last yr was to stop dropping Cole in coverage every so often…
was hoping for tulloch
but instead we wasted our money on brown and smith. Complete waste
by phightin_iggles on Oct 9, 2011 6:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
A lot different?
Probably not. But I do think the difference would be clear.
Clear eyes, full bologna sandwiches!
Depends on which on
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Oct 9, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
one*
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Oct 9, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
still gotta stop ppl..
what are we giving up per game ???30pts is my guess without looking it up !!!!
This loss is not Andy Reid’s fault. The plays were there. We had a chance to win. Our players blew it. Our offense moved the ball well but couldn’t score. Our defense just stinks. It’s time to turn the Page and start Jarrett.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
Our offense scored, then got it taken back because of the lines mistakes. This team showed the ability to get downfield AND score today.
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Oct 9, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The players aren't hungry enough
Oh well… I won’t pay to go to a game… I wouldn’t pay to go watch these guys lose….
by Eagles_DevilDawg on Oct 9, 2011 6:11 PM EDT reply actions
He’s not really here to tackle. It’s just that are CBs are often the only ones getting to the ball.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
He is not here to Tackle in a football game??
He plays on Defense and is not here to tackle ???
by Eagles_DevilDawg on Oct 9, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Ever hear of coverage?
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Every football player must know how to tackle
Its a basic part of football…
How retarded are you ?
by Eagles_DevilDawg on Oct 9, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Answer my question first. Have you ever heard of coverage?
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Ever hear of basic football tackling.
Its part of the game…. Obviously, you choose flag football…
Go play baseball if you don’t want to tackle people.
by Eagles_DevilDawg on Oct 9, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
His primary job is coverage, you nim-witted troll.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
by KByars on Oct 9, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Every football player must know how to tackle. That is the primary job of EVERY player… you Fucking moron. put the Tampoon back in your vagina and STFU.
are you the tackling coach for the Eagles ????
by Eagles_DevilDawg on Oct 9, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Even the offense practices tackling incase of a turnon you fucking tard
by Eagles_DevilDawg on Oct 9, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Bye troll
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Learn the Basics of the game.
Do you even know what a touchdown is?
by Eagles_DevilDawg on Oct 9, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
What’s that? Perhaps, you could explain it for me.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Touchdowns are tackling?
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Here is a link for you
http://www.amazon.com/Football-Dummies-Howie-Long/dp/0764550543
Its call football for dummies… Ready it… they made the book for people like you
by Eagles_DevilDawg on Oct 9, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
How do I ready it? Does it explain how touchdowns are tackling?
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
buy it and read it.
you will find out
by Eagles_DevilDawg on Oct 9, 2011 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Its not Mutha Fucking Flag football...
He plays on Defense… the Defense tackles the offensive player.
by Eagles_DevilDawg on Oct 9, 2011 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Everyone on that football field should be here to tackle
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Oct 9, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s why you see lots of 265 pound cornerbacks.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
I’m not talking about hard hitting, but you need to know how to wrap up. Hell, atleast try.
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Oct 9, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Going by your methods… once a person catchs the ball… Asante should just touch the person….not tackle the person. In Fact asante shouldn’t even wear pads.
by Eagles_DevilDawg on Oct 9, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
They do
Need to emphasize correct tackling for corners.
Not just for Asante, but also for people like Dunta. Emphasizing correct tackling technique will help avoid those plays as well
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Should he be able to make a tackle yes? Did we sign him for his tackling ability? No, we signed him to be speedy, break up passes and intercept balls.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Miss a tackle the other team scores a touchdown. you obviously don’t know anything…. I’d rather take a CB that can tackle and cover
you just want a CB that can cover, but can’t tackle and gives up Touchdowns
by Eagles_DevilDawg on Oct 9, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
He isn’t doing any of those things right now…
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Oct 9, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Indeed, but if I had to choose which one of those he sucked at, it would be the tackling.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Agreed, but right now he is sucking at all of them.
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Oct 9, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup, but he’s not alone.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Everyone knows Asante is a pussy when it comes to tackling a person. His job is to be a football player. not be a pussy.
by Eagles_DevilDawg on Oct 9, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
You can stop now.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Eat shit, bandwagon.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
you are a newbie to football…. thats obvious
by Eagles_DevilDawg on Oct 9, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Go dig your Patriots jersey out of the closet, bandwagon. You can hop on their message board and talk about how a cornerback’s primary responsibility is making tackles. You can tell them how disappointed you are that Nnamdi doesn’t have any sacks yet.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Bandwagon.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
The bandwagon fan who is all of a sudden trolling the shit out of me, because he’s upset that the dream team was not a dream team.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Go back to Baseball !
They don’t tackle in that sport…
by Eagles_DevilDawg on Oct 9, 2011 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
KByars is a Retard
Don’t worry about him…. He thinks this game is flag football…
by Eagles_DevilDawg on Oct 9, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I've changed my mind on him
he’s worthless
by BleedinGreen116 on Oct 9, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
yea
I gotta agree with that. Not a huge fan of Samuel. Good thing he won’t be wearing midnight green next year. He will dwfinately be traded
by phightin_iggles on Oct 9, 2011 6:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it would be awesome
to atleast get a LB for him
by BleedinGreen116 on Oct 9, 2011 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Kuechly/Te'o/Burfict
Take your pick on which one. Me personally, I would take Kuechly. Not as high a ceiling as Burfict, but is a brilliant player and is easily the safest LB prospect in this draft. Plus, I would love to see him do to Manning what Laurinaitis did to him.
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I don't know why this is even under discussion.
Until we get rid of Reid, we’ll never (I repeat: NEVER) take a linebacker in the first round.
Don’t get me wrong, we absolutely should.
But we won’t. Again.
by licensetochill on Oct 9, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
This article has it right
Bills fan here. Your comments about what happened on the field today are pretty much right on. Bills may be 4-1 now but for the 2nd straight week did not play 4 quarters. I really thought the Eagles and Vick would come back & win, and would have except for their own mistakes. Bills offense executed great for 2 1/2 quarters and that more than Eagles inability on defense explains the lead they jumped to, but then Fitz stopped hitting receivers in stride, Bills O-line started getting beat in individual matchups, and Philly dominated 4th quarter on both sides of the ball.
I like the Eagles. Hope your boys turn it around
Listen bro.
You and I both know that the only thing the eagles are turning around are their women. We fucking suck, just admit it.
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so now that
Rolle has had 2 games, what does everyone think of him so far? I think he could be great, given a year or 2 of starting experience.
It’s hard to say. He’s more active and plays with more energy than Matthews, but he still gets swallowed up by blocks at times.
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Just a thought....
Could Washburn be working to undermine Castillo? Think about it, Without looking, who was the DC in Tennesee last year?
Could some of the problems be a feud in the coaching staff?
Washburn never wanted to be a DC.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
"To catch them is my real test, to train them is my cause."
by Imp on Oct 9, 2011 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
"To catch them is my real test, to train them is my cause."
by Imp on Oct 9, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Nothing against the wide nin, but I just wonder how many DC’s are hired and told “The DL is gonna do this, and you work around it. It requires good LB’s, but you can’t have any. I know you even running a zone based schemes, but here are 2 press corners. Make it work.” This was destined to fail..
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Oct 9, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.
the day we only score 3 points with this offense, is the day ill give everyone a dollar haha
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by JJeaglerooter on Oct 9, 2011 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
They really didn't today
They played much tighter gaps and ditched the wide nine altogether on a lot of plays and it made no difference.
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Just watched the game, and this defense really can’t seem to get out of its way at the end can it? They actually played pretty well in the fourth quarter unlike the last three eagles losses, but then parker is a bonehead and jumps across the line. Why did Reid have to call a timeout? I just knew gailey would send the offense back on the field. Why not have the timeout for the offense? Parker should not have jumped, but I hated that reid called a timeout.
Someone has to be Accountable
I think if Castillo had some self-respect he would realize that he is not prepared for this assignment and resign tomorrow morning. This may be the worst Eagles defense I’ve seen in decades. If Andy Reid is a “Made-guy” and untouchable, someone has to be accountable. As an Eagles fan, who pays hard earned money on going to games and merchandise, if I continued to go to my job, and fail to perform, disappoint expectations and execute and do my job, I couldn’t go to my boss week in and week out and say " sorry, I have to do a better job." -“times yours” I’d be fired by now…because I am accountable for myself. How bad must it get until someone is responsible for this fiasco?
by Dawk4life on Oct 9, 2011 6:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Yeah That what I meant
“Dream Team” Mention alert.
I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.
its just funny
when he says the eagles wanted to be called the dream team……..NO NO NO…. Phil simms I’m sorry…. well no I’m not sorry, you’re clearly a fucking idiot… Vince Young is not “the eagles”.
by BleedinGreen116 on Oct 9, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
"Dream team" on the Patriots-Jets game.....
I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.
i just heard that... "thank you Vince" you screwed us with that comment
by Eagles_DevilDawg on Oct 9, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
VY was right.
They really are the dream team. Problem is, no one woke them up.
Why come you don't have a tattoo?
by goodfella46er on Oct 9, 2011 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
It is not fair to blame Vince. He was not referring to a dream team like the Heat. The media and Adam Schefter took it out of context and ran with it.
easy solution
“yeah, we have a very talented team and we have to show up week 1 and prove we can win”
by BleedinGreen116 on Oct 9, 2011 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Blame the media. If you read the context his comment makes sense. It was a dream scenario for him to be in.
unfortunately... its not a dream now.
I hope the eagles can turn it around.
by Eagles_DevilDawg on Oct 9, 2011 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
you are absolutely right.
However, i do believe VY is toxic wherever he goes
by Eagles_DevilDawg on Oct 9, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I've been giving Andy a pass for a long time now
because of the success he’s had with this team, but I’m done. He’s the captain of the ship, and he clearly didn’t see the iceberg coming. So long Big Red.
Eagles ---- Laughing Stock of the NFL
This is sad… truely sad. So much talent…. no one is hungry enough to play
by Eagles_DevilDawg on Oct 9, 2011 6:36 PM EDT reply actions
So true. Not only a laughing stock because we’re losing but also how we’re losing.
My head seems permanently attached to my palms when Im watching an Eagles game at the moment.
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October 23rd Bucs vs Bears @ Wembley......I'm there!
you could put a
21 cu.ft.refrigerator out there and improve.someone could run into it and get knocked out.
It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.
the day we only score 3 points with this offense, is the day ill give everyone a dollar haha
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by JJeaglerooter on Oct 9, 2011 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I am 100% sure that a quadruple amputee would be a better safety than Page.
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
Eli Manning has the personality of a baked potato.
What about a dead quadriplegic?
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Probably the same results. Would just get in the way and trip people.
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Every monday I hope to read about him being cut. maybe this week?
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Oct 9, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
The worst part is that the Bills pass rush was supposed to be a weak point..
"you cannot think this 6-foot man is going to survive a full season if defenses have 904 chances to knock his block off"
by EaglesandRavensFan on Oct 9, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions
WE WANT VONTAZE BURFICT!!!
im giving it one more week until i now longer will be emotionally attached to the game. if we head in to the bye 1-5 whats the point ?
LeSean McCoy is the best thing to hit Philadelphia since Ben Franklin
Who is this team?
And what have they done with my Iggles?
Whoever you are, when I log off, you cease to exist.
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Jim Johnson is just shaking his head up there.
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by C&H on Oct 9, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw some some flasback JJ Man- Blitz. 2 plays actually and it worked.
Hope to see more of that.
Yepp
Andy Reid : “hey castillo, cut the shit… that D was working, call something else”
Castillo : “Yes, boss!!!”
by BleedinGreen116 on Oct 9, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Lets all join the "burflict in Philly" campaign
by KevinEagles on Oct 9, 2011 6:50 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
After
we finish the “Reid outta philly” campaign… I’ll sign up
by BleedinGreen116 on Oct 9, 2011 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Although
I don’t watch college football at all, so if you guys say this is the guy to have… I can dig it.
by BleedinGreen116 on Oct 9, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll sign up for that
Guy seems like a beast and you need that in a MLB though I don’t know how he is at playcalling
by Matthew Krawcheck on Oct 9, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Bust
HE’s going to be a bust
Formerly number5
RIP JJ
by HawaiianGreen on Oct 9, 2011 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Not compared to what we got
and not compared to our last two first round picks (so far)
ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th
Namdey Asomgua sucks.
We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.
I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT
There are soo many better MLB or LB in general than him. Te'o is hands down a better choice
Formerly number5
RIP JJ
by HawaiianGreen on Oct 10, 2011 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Not quite
There are soo many better MLB or LB in general than him
Umm.. No, there isn’t.. If anything You can say he has a temper, but there is no way you can question his ability or him as a LB. Te’o may be more Level headed, but
Te’o is hands down a better choiceis going a bit far, if VB checks his emotions he will be
hands down a better choice
ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th
Namdey Asomgua sucks.
We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.
I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT
He's too much of a risk
He is very passionate and plays out of control sometimes and to be honest, do you really think you see anyone on our coaching staff or defense that would be able to keep his attitude and reckless style in check?
I’d prefer the safer pick in Kuechly. His ceiling isn’t as high as Burfict’s, but he is by far the safer and pro ready prospect. If JJ were still here, I would have no problem with drafting Burfict, but we have Juan “Fundamental” Castillo and a bunch of vaginas for position coaches.
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I see what you're saying
but I’ve always been the type of person who prefers the player with the most potential even if he needs to be coached up a bit. I’ve been following burfict this year and it doesn’t seem like he’s had quite the same behavior/penalty issues. I worry that if we take the ‘more ready’ players in a Kueckly or Te’o, we’ll regret in a few years when Burfict has matured and is better than the other two.
Also, I want to say that I saw Kuechly may not go into the draft this year, I can’t remember
I love his talent
But what scares me is we have NO ONE on this team who can turn his explosiveness into the way he plays. Dawkins, Trotter, JJ or even Sheldon were still here I would have no problem. But Reid could never handle someone like that and Castillo damn sure couldn’t handle someone like that. We would definitely have to have a LB coach like Joe Barry or Dean Pees who could harness all his rage into his play.
He hasn’t had the same behavior/penalty issues (at least not as many) but he has been struggling pretty mightily this year as well. I think he’s better served going back to college.
The thing that pulls me onto Kuechley is as much more potential as Burfict has than him, Kuechley’s football IQ is off the charts. He is one of the most smartest defensive players I’ve seen in awhile. That’s why I wouldn’t mind taking a shot on him even if he doesn’t have much ceiling left, he is the best player on a bad team and is the lone reason the BC Eagles (along with Harris) they are relevant. Plus, if his ceiling is averaging 16 tackles a game like he is in college, I’ll take that with no problem.
But I think youre right about him staying and Te’o might be to from what I’ve read. I just hope they both change they minds.
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I think if there is any position you want a hot head at
Its MLB.. if hes there, take him. We need an Asshole, these nice guys miss tackles
ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th
Namdey Asomgua sucks.
We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.
I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
by Snax on Oct 5, 2011 11:02 AM PDT
wtf
this season has been a disgarce. felt like puking after each off these games even in st. louis.
by bleedingreen4life on Oct 9, 2011 6:52 PM EDT reply actions
jj is rolling in his grave right now.
our defense is a fucking joke
by bleedingreen4life on Oct 9, 2011 6:54 PM EDT reply actions
Besides firing coaches thats the only real option they have is to get back into a JJ style D
We know what kind of D personnel they have. That’s the only other style Juan knows. Even if it’s water down they got to try something. The Man-blitzes they did even if it was just 2 worked great. MIX IT UP
There once was am QB coach named Andy Reid....
who was made Head Coach of the Eagles…He had the benefit of having Ray Rhodes draft picks ( Dawkins, Tre Thomas, Trotter, Duce Staley ,Bobby Taylor etc n his FA pick-ups…H.Douglas, Troy Vincent etc)..He was smart enough at the time to hire Jim Johnson.. Draft DMac…and get John Runyan)…His wife told him about a Villanova standout name Westbrook or he might have missed on that 1….He told us for yrs we were good a Wide receiver while everyone in the world knew we needed some..he thght back then LB wasnt important n let Trotter get away…..Missed on Chad Johnson who we all wanted for FredEx….but finally listened n got TO n trotter back…Over the years once Ray’s picks left n he lost those good coords (Childress, Harbaugh, JJ, Spags)..and he had to replace them we get Juan n players like Page n Coleman n Patterson n Parker smdh…He was an organized QB coach n that’s all he will ever be !!! Sucks at drafting talent , horrible philosophy on D and O… gets rid of McDermont who had no talent last yr n knew JJ’s scheme which worked for clueless Juan !!! No we weren’t good because of Andy ..we were good in site of his stubborn ass !!! A decent coach would have brought us 2 bowls with that team this idiot had !!!
in other words
clean house, this staff sucks
by BleedinGreen116 on Oct 9, 2011 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions
??
i wish peter laviolette was available for dc
by bleedingreen4life on Oct 9, 2011 6:59 PM EDT reply actions
This was the season
Win today and next week to go into bye at 3-3 and they would have been in decent shape. At this point, it really is too bad there isn’t a real trading deadline in football where players move midseason because it is time to blow up this team and clean house. Several vets I wouldn’t mind seeing the Eagles move for draft picks but that just doesn’t happen.
This is what happens when you bring in over a dozen new players. They are lacking chemistry. Like I said before this season starter, I think Eagles are building for a big run NEXT season.
Or maybe this team just sucks.
This isn't a chemisty problem
Veterans like Jason Avant don’t get two balls stolen out of their hands because of a lack of chemistry. The oldest and most experienced player on the team, Parker, doesn’t jump offsides because of chemistry.
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Avant now Maclin
Making bad breaking mistakes that cost their teams games. It was the knock on Maclin at Mizzou and it was a knock on Avant at Michigan. Guys who couldn’t either make the critical game or would make a key mistake.
In particular, there are several plays now that stand out in my mind where Avant failed to make a critical play/made a key mistake in his Eagles’ career that have cost them dearly in losses.
Your joking right?
Did you watch the game and the 5 turnovers the offense gave up? Don’t care if you have the ’85 Bears, ’90 Giants, or the ’01 Ravens defense today, it is incredibly hard to win a game when you are -4 in the turover battle and give up a pick 6.
Especially since
Without that Chaney INT it would have been -5. Of course, the offense did nothing with the Chaney INT despite having a short field.
The Eagles offense is either the worst in the NFL or close to it in fumbles, fumbles lost, and INTs. Saying the D isn’t being helped is massive understatement.
ok your right ..
so I guess we did a great job in the redzone on defense…A turnover doesn’t have to turn into points…n I think Jackson ran all over them catching n running….the defense didn’t help this week or any other week !!!!
I’ve never heard that knock before.
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Things are looking pretty bleak
1. Asante is playing fine, he is 3rd in tackles on the team, I’d rather have Samuel over Nnamdi at this point. Nnamdi is a fucking joke.
2. Castillo needs to be fired pronto, but firing Reid right now only makes this situation even worse. Internally, there is no one to replace him that also doesn’t deserve blame other than Washburn. Keep Andy till the end of the season and if he can’t right this ship then it is truly over.
3. Bye, Page :D
Overall, the loss hurt, but the lost and they way we played against NY was much much worse, at least we had somewhat of a fight at the end.
Formerly number5
RIP JJ
Asante’s already been burnt several times on quick slants because he’s giving his man too much of a cushion and he can’t recover to make the tackle. This happened against ATL and it happened again today in the red zone.
I’d be okay with this if he was helping our turnover differential, but he’s also dropped a few interceptions so far on the year.
In comparison to the rest of the secondary, perhaps it’s safe to say that he’s doing okay, but I still call it unacceptable play.
And Nnamdi played quite well today
The only guy on the team seemingly able to tackle.
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Guys, don't you realize?
Everything the Eagles did in the offseason is pure misdirection…
We’re actually in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes.
So if you were wondering why we’re sucking so bad, now you know.
Also EB
Give me a logical reason why we kept Juqa Parker over Te’o?
Parker hasn’t been healthy, is expensive, and old. And it’s past week 3 now and he only plays well until week 3.
Parker is an idiot. What a waste of space.
Formerly number5
RIP JJ
Te'o is garbage, number5.
You are wrong to love him, but we can’t always choose the ones we love.
God Damn you, Andy Reid.
That is a specific reason
And I don’t ever see Garbage move.
Formerly number5
RIP JJ
by HawaiianGreen on Oct 9, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesus, small sample size
The play was idiotic, no doubt, but lets not cut the guys head off because of 1 play.
It pisses me off that this exact line of thinking is the reason Ronnie Brown isn’t used anymore either.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Parker has been a thorn in the Eagles side for YEARS
Lat year he was abused by Joe Webb. He never plays well after week 3
Formerly number5
RIP JJ
by HawaiianGreen on Oct 9, 2011 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
He never plays well after week 3
Except for pretty much every other year prior to last year.
I know it was a stupid play, but come on.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
honestly is there any chane we recovery from 1-4????
by bleedingreen4life on Oct 9, 2011 7:08 PM EDT reply actions
maybe
if they cut the bs turnovers and stop running that horse shit zone scheme
by BleedinGreen116 on Oct 9, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree we need man to man coverage
by bleedingreen4life on Oct 9, 2011 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
im sorry
My brothers, you are a complete nincompoop if you think the Eagles can salvage this season.
Crush them, my Birds!!! CRUSH THEM!!!!!!!!!
by EagleDomiNation on Oct 10, 2011 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
a fitting end to the reid era
trying to outsmart everyone but in the end just outsmarting yourself (i.e. hiring juan)
Define “recover”
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If they win next week at WSH there’s a slim chance they can win the division.
The Jruth shall be told.
Well it helps that the rest of division seems to stink as well.
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Well mathematically speaking, yes there is a chance.
But let’s be honest, there is basically no chance.
Clear eyes, full bologna sandwiches!
People harping on the defense
Are barking up the wrong tree today. Granted they only had 1 turnover, didn’t get enough 3-down stops, and gave up too pts/yds in the 1st half, they gave this team a chance to win today.
Gailey is a good coordinator, Bills play well at home, and they have been doing a real nice job executing so far this season on offense.
Vick made some great plays today but he also made some piss-poor ones too. He held on too the ball way too much today and forced throws trying to make something out of nothing.
In an offseason that was full of mistakes
The biggest one looks like handing Vick that $100M deal. I thought it was a bit iffy at the time but my friend who said the 2nd half Vick (guy who gambles too much, fumbles the ball too much, holds on to the ball to much, and couldn’t make the necessary adjustments as a drive through operator let alone at the line of scrimmage with checkdowns) was the real version. Turns out I think he was right.
Vick has taken a beating at times this year but man he holds on to the ball way too much for too long. Makes some dumb decisions too trying to force stuff.
i think vick has been good enough to win these games.
its our d and our recievers causing costly turnovers
by bleedingreen4life on Oct 9, 2011 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
He threw a pick 6 that was one of the worst throws you will see and the Eagles had 4 INTs today. Yeah two of them were tipped but he forced too much stuff today.
Vick is the only reason why the Eagles were close to catching up. He did suck in the first half though.
oh he is?
He was the one that ran in mccoys touchdown? And he is the one that ran deaeans screen pass in? You have it backwards, Vick is the main reason we were so behind to begin with
by phightin_iggles on Oct 9, 2011 7:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
LOL
You’re logic is soooo flawed. Like jjhh05 said, who broke the huge run that lead to McCoy’s TD? Come on.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
He didn’t force too much. He’s not the issue.
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Not today
He simply made too mistakes. Yeah he made some big plays with his legs and arm but he gave them back in spades with some of the ill-advised throws.
lol..
Baltimore won the Bowl with Dilfer…Tampa with Johnson … jus saying !! DEFENSE WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS !!!!!
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by Mikesta on Oct 9, 2011 7:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
boy
he just tries to fuck us over any way he can
by BleedinGreen116 on Oct 9, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I most definitely think they made the right call keeping Vick, but putting that much stock into him is another story.
Phillies in 2012!!!
Eagles in... "this team sucks a huge cock end of story" by Mike GinZ
right decision, yes
$$$ amount, not so much
by BleedinGreen116 on Oct 9, 2011 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Have to admit
I did think they were going to tie that game up late. Now I didn’t necessary like their chances of winning it in OT with their defense but that is another story.
Your a dope
You post another of foolish things on here but if you don’t think the NFL is a passing, scoring league now where the role of defense is secondary you know next to nothing about football at the pro level
you do what...
you need to do to win the game !!! GB didnt pass all over us last year in the playoffs!!! They ran it more n controlled the game…stop buying into all the hype I know its a passing league blah blah n the rules are for offense BUT defense still wins championship…that Saints D shut Peyton down in the bowl n got timely turnovers !!!
Official
Your a fool. What team today has a 50/50 ratio anymore?
Your suggestion on how to build a SB caliber team is to build a superior defense sacrificing talent on offense that runs the ball 505 of the time and scores 17-21 pts a game.
You think that would win in today’s NFL?
You DUMB !!!
Buffalo ran the ball 26 times n passed it 27..and alot of the passes were screen passes to Jackson…Why do u have to sacrifice Offense for defense??? Its about drafting bro !!!!
Let’s look the ratio of run/pass plays of the most prolific offenses in the league coming into today:
Ravens – 150 passing plays/104 runs
Pats – 168 passing plays/98 runs
Saints – 183 passing plays/97 runs
Lions – 166 passing plays/97 runs
Bills – 157 passing plays/93 runs
Funny but it looks to me that the teams in the NFL with the most productive scoring offenses are passing at around at 60-65% clip on the season overall.
You don’t run an offense anymore in the NFL with a 50/50 run/pass ratio despite what ever nonsense you spout to the contrary. Teams are passing at a 60-65% clip.
Who brought up...
running the ball anyway ??? I didn’t…All I said was defense wins championships and that holds true for most sports !!! The Pats passed 33x n ran 34x today …so like I said you do what it takes to win the game…I didn’t say we should have ran more today !!! But u never know we had big plays with Vick n McCoy running..
lopsided too..
that’s not true for every game we seen the Bills balanced today ..the Pats balanced too but some games theses teams just get out of whack with their passing which schew the stats..It varies from game to game !!!
Um
Buffalo ran 26x n passed 27x and alot of those passes were screen passes !!! San Fran ran on us to come back n so did Atl …..
GB has a good defense this year? Could have fooled me so far. Even last year, it was Rodgers and their offense that led them to the SB.
Saints had a defense that gave up yards by the truckload the year they won the SB. They caused enough mistakes though and won the turnover battle in a big way. Just happened to make their share of plays.
Colts defense had leaked water all year they won the SB. In fact, they had been terrible most of the year. They just gelled at the right time and put together a playoff run.
well...
Green Bay’s defense has been up n down this year so far but im talking last year..Yeah the Saints excelled at turnovers n keeping points off the board..the Colts on their run shut ppl dwn in the playoffs..Pittsburgh did what we could not..slow up Arizona’s offense !!!! If we had a good defense we would be 5-0…they cant tackle n get man handled in the run !!!!
Saints defense that gave up its share of pts too. Their offense was just ridiculously good at scoring especially at home or in favorable weather conditions on the road/dome.
Yes the Eagles’ defense has not done the job this year but if you honestly think an NFL team builds their defense primarily today and wins with a below average QB/passing game you don’t get it.
Well..
the GB defense shut us down last year in the playoffs…picked off Matt Ryan for a few scores I recall n shut Chicago dwn and at the time that GB offense u talk about wasnt doing anything !!!!
If the game had gone to OT, the coin flip would have decided it.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
y the fuck arent we running the ball more when we are having success andy reid is such a fucking shit tard
by bleedingreen4life on Oct 9, 2011 7:29 PM EDT reply actions
Of all the things to complain about you choose that
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We weren’t in that situation today, but Shady can be a game-changer. Not sure why they didn’t get him more involved.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
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by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Oct 10, 2011 2:23 AM EDT up reply actions
The good thing is that it doesn’t hurt me emotionally when we lose anymore. I’d have to say the worst part about this game was having to watch our 3 corners, who are probably all in the top 10 cornerbacks in the game, play off each Bills receiver a good 10 yards every play. We were just giving them free 8-10 yard completions. I can already predict Andy Reid getting fired, and in the mean time not resigning Desean, kind of like the Vikings a few years back when they didn’t resign Moss because the GM or Owner got fired.
Fuck you Nnamdi and Castillo, get off our goddamn payroll.
Coleman sucks dick.
im complaining about it all broski, just dont understand how our coaching staff keeps forcing vick to pass when hes struggling. amongst other things
by bleedingreen4life on Oct 9, 2011 7:32 PM EDT reply actions
Anyone else notice that we finally played man with Nnamdi?
Anyone notice that whenever that happened, Fitzpatrick wouldn’t even look to that side of the field? Castillo finally got something right.
yes
it worked great and namdi was in on three consecutive tackles but castillo is a retard.
by bleedingreen4life on Oct 9, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea I noticed that. I also noticed that nate Allen played pretty well, as with DRC
by phightin_iggles on Oct 9, 2011 7:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
DRC did NOT play well. At all.
He was awful. Routinely beat. And, just seemed like he wanted no part in a tackle. He’s the next coming of Asante. Fuck him.
by LegendKnight22 on Oct 9, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Routinely beat? How tds dis he give up? How many tds he give up? Last time I checked asante was the guy routinely beat. Maybe you got ur numbers mixed up
by phightin_iggles on Oct 9, 2011 7:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yards*** on that second one
by phightin_iggles on Oct 9, 2011 7:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It just seemed like that side of the field, especially where DRC was, was getting targeted
Also, he shows VERY little effort. He really does. If I can find the plays, I’d show you, but I can’t. But, from what I saw live, its like he plays off on his guy in the slot, then when his guy gets the ball, he doesn’t get in and tackle. He backs off, or worse, jogs/walks with the receiver until someone else tackles him. It’s fucking horrible.
I can’t be the only one that sees this.
by LegendKnight22 on Oct 9, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
You aren't
I noticed DRC backing off of players and half-assing his way to the ball carrier repeatedly.
Yeah once again: Man-Blitz even if it was just 2. It worked
Juan needs to mix it up more.
I'm embarassed
to be an Eagles fan. The disorganization is just awful. The coaching is terrible. And a short camp schedule is NOT an excuse. Every team operated under the same time frame. Its time for a new regime…one that commands the respect of the players and can at LEAST get players to focus on the fundamentals…like tackling and protecting the ball.
++1
Crush them, my Birds!!! CRUSH THEM!!!!!!!!!
by EagleDomiNation on Oct 10, 2011 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
BTW
I saw a graphic on the game today that said at that point in the games the eagles defense had given up points in 50 consecutive red zone appearances.
we shud offer dawk $$$$$$$ to be our dc.
by bleedingreen4life on Oct 9, 2011 7:50 PM EDT reply actions
W/ the exception of this game.. I can honestly say Asante has been tacking better this year. Even forced a fumble against the Falcons on a play that was called back b/c of another player. & even knocked the Giants TE out of the game.
DRC’s lack of playing time, and the direction of the team has shown in his play. He’s a chase the play from behind artist, but he did make a partially good play on the dropped interception.
We have the players, to do well enough to win (defensively); not dominate. W/ the improved coaches (name-sake) it’s kind of ironic that that’s one of our weak points this year.
W/ all that being said, we turned the ball over 5 times and lost by seven pulls hair out. Lost by one last week w/ multiple turnovers and jacked field-goals pulls hair out. Shit is sickening.
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by Illadelphia-Braintrust on Oct 9, 2011 7:55 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
amen
i agree turnovers have been brutal, we have the team just have to turn this around right now. shit is totally disgusting.
by bleedingreen4life on Oct 9, 2011 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
blah blah blah your dumb
blah blah blah your stupid
same old same old for another week
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Same old excuses
by Eagles_DevilDawg on Oct 9, 2011 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I had plenty of faith after the Falcons game… some after the Giants game… had just a glimmer of hope after the 49ers epic collapse to make the playoffs… they just crossed the line with this one…. 1-4 is too tough to recover and make the playoffs. Our schedule doesn’t get any easier and we’re gonna need to be 10-6 at least to make the playoffs, 9-2 the rest of the way? Don’t think so.
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We win the next 5 games: WAS, DAL, CHI, ARI, and NYG.
We lose vs. NE
win the next 5.
fuck yes
by The Pied Piper on Oct 9, 2011 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
More like we lose the next five, beat NE, then lose the last five.
Crush them, my Birds!!! CRUSH THEM!!!!!!!!!
by EagleDomiNation on Oct 10, 2011 1:19 AM EDT up reply actions
I am so furious with this team
But for some reason, there’s something in me that refuses to throw in the towel just yet.
If we beat Washington and Dallas, we might just be right back in the thick of it.
But playing Washington after their bye… the odds are against us. We should be underdogs by at least 5.
we have seen changes every week
They have been small, but still changes… When is Andy going to feel the heat? I feel like he has this attitude that everyone is below him and he will never be fired. I put it on lurie to stir the pot, because Andy will just let this go on until we have no shot.
Stats won't get you in the playoffs. Winning will get you in the playoffs
-Michael Vick-
exactly
he was snickering when asked about his job security after the game today… pompous ass hat
by BleedinGreen116 on Oct 9, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it time for us the fans to take action??
There is only one thing the fans have control of that effect all the way up to upper management… Start financial war far on the eagles. This holiday season don’t buy anything from the Eagles, don’t go to games, nothing. It is the only power we have and I can’t have another year of this. I’d go on record as saying if we don’t go to the superbowl with this team, CLEAN HOUSE. We see new coaches work, some times they don’t, but this would be a dream job for most. To Andy I think he wants us to be happy that he is our coach….. Which is re-fucking-tarded.
Stats won't get you in the playoffs. Winning will get you in the playoffs
-Michael Vick-
Please start Jarrett at SS
Hated the pick at the time and still think he will be a clear liability in coverage but Page missed multiple tackles again this week.
Watkins wasn’t great this week but he played better than DeVan did the week before. If Page were an asset in pass coverage, I can understand why the coaching staff would consider benching him but he is not. This team desperately needs a safety who can tackle with some consistency. At least Allen made his share of tackles today.
Also
Hopefully Andy learns his damn lesson and drafts a 1st round LB next year… we all see what a difference 1 playmaking LB can make, Clay Matthews… Ray Lewis…. Patrick Willis, even Willis’ teammate Bowman was making plays all over the place when we played the 49ers. I miss the old days of Trotter and his axe celebration…
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Especially this draft
Their are possibly 3 LBs who are definitely 1st round talent. Even if someone doesn’t get Burfict (who seems to be the prize), Te’o and Kuechley are far from bad consolation prizes.
Then you got Travis Lewis, Danny Trevathan, Tank Carder, Nico Johnson, Dont’a Hightower, Courtney Upshaw (even though he’s more a 3-4 guy), Zach Brown, etc.
I still wish we would have grabbed Rey Maualuga when we got the chance. But that was the first signal that we don’t appreciate LBs.
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maybe this is for the best
Sacrifice this season so we can finally get a head coach that can utilize someone’s strengthes. Hey vick, ur only 5’3 and you’ re great outside the pocket so why don’t you just stay inside the pocket with a bunch if 6’4 guys standing in front of you
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by Memstyle on Oct 9, 2011 9:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
If Castillo switches his gameplan, the D will be ok. When we went to man in the 4th, the only 1st down they could get was Jaque Parker aided. IF (big if), Juan actually goes to man full time, I think the D, LBs and all, will be ok.
OK ?
ok how?they are terrible. no size, just speed. they’re great flag football players
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Because we have shutdown corners. We leave them on an island outside with a safety playing center field, and then stack the box.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I beg your pardon....
Do you know how you beat man coverage with no creditable linebackers? You send them deep and hit the backs and TEs on crossing routes. The problem is the LINEBACKERS. The entire NFL game today depends on linebacker play… PERIOD.
by A Yahoo! user on Oct 9, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
When have we ever covered TEs? Its not like our inability to cover TEs has kept us out of the playoffs before.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 9, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah,
Juan does not have many options. The only other D scheme he knows would be JJ. I look for him to mix it up with some JJ stuff. Staying with the way it is=FAILURE and his job.
As a coach you can only blame the players so much. Then you got to try something else. Especially when you have all that D talent.
Wrong...
The most impressive part of JJs handling of the defense was his ability to adapt on the run. You don’t learn how to do that by reading someone else’s notes. You either have that gift or you don’t. JC doesn’t.
by A Yahoo! user on Oct 9, 2011 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Stay Calm &Keep Quiet
Page off the field, playing more man, we finish 10-6. Make the playoffs. This is prettyit much afor rebuild year andfor should beI treated that way.Seen this act before, Andys setting it up for us or them against the redskins in the last game. Drama Queen.
by realmccoy25 on Oct 9, 2011 9:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Make that a double, please... hold the pretzels.
We couldn’t win ten games this year if all the other teams’ planes crashed. Face it, Vick is NOT the control QB one needs in this league. Too many unforced errors. Defense I think is a catastrophe well documented. Andy, Marty & Juan just do not have a clue. They don’t even know there IS a problem. Denial… it’s not just a river in Egypt anymore.
by A Yahoo! user on Oct 9, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
On another note
Watching part of McNabb vs Kolb was painful today.
Kevin Kolb had another horrendous week and was benched today late for Richard Bartel. Who? I even had no idea who the guy was.
McNabb is simply washed up. Amazing how bad he looked on most of his throws. Plus, he is also clearly out of shape & overweight/borderline fat.
hes always been pudgy
and every year it was the asme thing “mcnabb lost X amount of lbs, training hard.” i think he’s being exposed on bad teams for waht he really is - a mediocre qb with some really really bad inconsistencies….sucks about Kolb
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Feels like I got stabbed in the throat after all this.
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by Memstyle on Oct 9, 2011 9:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I always thought this would be the perfect Jim Johnson defense.
I think it’s absolutely ridiculous that they play Nnamdi in zone for most of the game. Yet it takes them being down a ton of points and being desperate to utilize it. That’s stupid. DRC would probably be a hell of a guy to man up against Number Two receivers (He struggled last year, but he always was matched up against the opposition’s best). Then you find a place to hide Asante and let him use his instincts. Obviously that last part is easier said than done, but it’s been an abject failure the other way. I’m so sick of playing soft zone coverage to the point a quick slant is an easy 1st down every play.
As for the front, I really do think that spreading out the ends is killing the run defense. I appreciated Jason’s article a few weeks ago, and he’s right that the pass coverage is bad, but honestly it’s apparent they aren’t equipped to stop the run in that formation. Move Cole and Babin in, and they’ll still get their sacks. Then tell Patterson to start doing what he does best, stuffing the run. Who knows, maybe even start Jarrett who I doubt could be any worse than Page, and utilize him as a blitzer.
I really feel that these would be steps in the right direction, but the system is all Washburn knows, right? I’d doubt he’ll change it up. It’s a shame, because I feel our good defensive players (except the DE’s, but what’s 1-2 more sacks really doing for us?) are not being utilized properly.
by PhillyPhanatic20 on Oct 9, 2011 9:47 PM EDT reply actions
Playing man and run blitzing the gaps with the Colemen/Jarrett would work with the wide-9. We have the corners to play man with Allen over the top. Rolle has showed promise against the run.
The Jruth shall be told.
I’d just rather have defensive ends as at least a minor deterrent to stop any runs in between the tackles. If they are going to give up big plays, I’d rather them at least trying to blitz and make plays. If they are still going to play wide nine, then Patterson and Jenkins have to both be run stoppers first and foremost. No more getting after the QB for them if that’s the case, right? I’m not sure I like that.
The biggest thing is the soft, zone coverage has to stop.
by PhillyPhanatic20 on Oct 9, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
i consider myself the staunchest of andy reid supporters, however it really may be time for a change. this is literally the first time these words have escaped my lips. its not so much a game strategy problem, its the general lack of urgency that is so apparent when looking at the eagles sideline. i can’t help but feel that there is a real credibility problem within the organization from top to bottom.
Exactly.
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by The11thLetter on Oct 9, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Leaders
I think this team sorely misses what Dawkins and McNabb brought to the table. We don’t have leaders on the team, we have a lot of players who I think are all good teammates, they all seem there for each other, congratulating each other on big plays. But I don’t think any of them are the type to stand up in the opposite scenario, when things go poorly and help to change the mindset of what is going on.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Now you’re just being ignorant.
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by Mikesta on Oct 9, 2011 10:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
not really, McNabb was never a true leader for this team
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by EagleDomiNation on Oct 10, 2011 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions
He was a better leader than anyone on this team now.
He was always accountable, occasionally I think he was too available to the press, if he could shut his mouth sometimes he wouldn’t have been so controversial. When Vick addresses the media I feel like the overwhelming majority of the time it’s about his status to play in the next game or what he needs to do to be better, it’s rarely a “we” thing. Every year McNabb invited the skill players out to Arizona to work with them and build relationships, that’s leadership.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
lol
McNabb? Leader?
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by EagleDomiNation on Oct 10, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions
You can read!
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
I agree
that we badly need someone to step up on the D side of the ball and get the players pumped up and ready to play… haven’t really seen anyone do that since dawk
by BleedinGreen116 on Oct 9, 2011 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't agree
I think leadership is one of these platitudes we like to look to when we don’t have any other explanation for what’s going.
Sure, more veteran types is never bad… but I find it very hard to believe that all the problems on this team would be fixed with simply more leaders.
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Wouldn't fix all the problems.
But it would fix some. Of course the crappy LBs are a big problem, the safeties that suck, Nnamdi being used in ways that he hasn’t been used before, the offensive line which is looking more like a ‘worst case’ from a couple months ago (two rookies and King?!) and our apparent inability to knock down a ball after it’s clear we can’t catch it so no one else can. Skip Bayless is going to have a field day with Vick’s 4 INT day even though only 1 of them was clearly his fault.
I do think a lack of leaders contributes to things like Parker’s total brain fart, someone wasn’t on the field to whisper into his ear “hey you dumbass, don’t cross the damn line or youll get chewed out in front of everyone in the locker room later”. We’re missing a layer of accountability.
No one single thing is going to fix all of our problems I don’t know why people keep jumping to that conclusion. When one suggests ditching the wide 9 they get jumped on “That’s not the problem!”, ditching the Wide 9 won’t fix all the problems, upgrading the linebackers won’t fix all the problems either.
Are we really dismissing ideas because they won’t fix all the problems this team has in one shot?
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
I do think a lack of leaders contributes to things like Parker’s total brain fart
But Parker is a veteran. Why would a “leader” say anything to Parker before the snap? No one would expect him to be the one to jump. I’m with Jason, I think “leadership” is just an amorphous concept that probably doesn’t really mean anything. Unless “leaders” hold unofficial tackling practices every week I don’t know how a leader would help this defense.
Clear eyes, full bologna sandwiches!
I just think there is a difference between being a veteran and being good.
Just because Parker has been around doesn’t mean he doesn’t need to be told what do to, and not him specifically, someone should have been out there telling everyone that they better not so much as flinch.
I think leadership has a bigger impact that most will admit. I’m a Red Sox fan, I just watched my team blow a big lead in the wild card. A team where the manager lost control of the clubhouse and no internal leaders stepped up to maintain order and keep the team motivated. The players said it themselves, no one stepped up when they began to falter. I think that’s what’s happening here, no one is stepping up, there are players stepping up physically, I think Jenkins was an example of that towards the end of the day. But someone needs to do it vocally too.
No one can deny that a decent part of this game is mental. You can’t measure it or it’s impact, but it’s there. Team leaders can affect that, keep morale high and frustration low, which can help with mental errors like we keep seeing on this team.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Here is what I wonder about that though:
When good teams with “leaders” have bad seasons, do those leaders stop being leaders that year? Does their “leadership” stop being effective? The Red Sox could have had someone hollering and screaming and making helpful pointers in the dugout but if no one actually started hitting better, what would it have mattered?
How do we know no one was out there screaming for everyone on D to remain stone-still? I’m guessing that before they lined up the players were told by coaches and other players not to move a goddamn muscle. Hell, Parker could have easily said it himself, we don’t really know. And if Parker never jumps and the Bills burn their timeout and punt, would anyone here be talking about how “leaders” made sure everyone was in line?
I get that the game is partly mental and that team leaders can be helpful, but I think “leadership” is used as a crutch far too much. I guess I’m not convinced that winning is a product of “leadership” as much as leadership is a product of winning. Plug Ray Lewis circa 2001 into this defense and we still have two questionable starters at LB, two questionable starters at safety, scheme problems and tackling issues at positions other than MLB.
Clear eyes, full bologna sandwiches!
At what point to a series of individual errors start becoming systematic problems? If we remove the Parker screw up, if they punt and if we win, this team still has serious issues. It’s a team that forgot how to tackle, they all know how to tackle but they aren’t doing it. That needs to be coaxed out of them, coaches and leaders are the ones responsible for doing it. You cut the leaders out and if the coaches can’t reach the players you’re screwed. We’re screwed.
Runyan, Jamal Jackson, Weaver, McNabb, Dawkins, Bradley, those are the players that I’ve felt were leaders for this team over the last few years. I can’t identify anyone on this team that stands out to me as a leader, maybe Samuels from the training camp reports but surely his stock has fallen when the trade talk started. On the other side of the ball I can’t identify any, Vick is a lot of things, l don’t think that leader is one of them, rightfully, he needs to focus on himself too much to be able to help others. I just haven’t seen a team with so much do so little with it. Teams can play with bad linebackers, there is no such thing as a complete team, even teams that win it all have missing pieces, Green Bay had so many injuries last year but they persevered and had strong leaders to help guide the weaker players.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Green Bay also has great coaching.
I don’t buy that leaders would solve the problems we have that coaching isn’t solving. I think if we had these leaders we would still be 1-4; unless those leaders also happened to be talented, experienced linebackers or safeties.
I mean, last year everyone said Vick was the leader McNabb never was. You say you don’t think he is a leader but plenty people think otherwise (or at least they did). But who is right? Them or you? What about the Eagles themselves who say Vick is a leader? The term and idea sometimes seems so amorphous to me that unless a player is over-the-top obvious as a leader (Dawkins, Ray Lewis, Drew Brees, etc) how can we really know who is or isn’t a “leader”?
Clear eyes, full bologna sandwiches!
The Defensive players are better than this.
With all that talent and they look like the worst defense in the NFL?? Just does not fit.
Coaching and scheme needs to be modified asap.
Was anyone else as frustrated as me to see Nick Barnett get two picks today?
He was available this offseason after the Packers cut him… He’s certainly not as fast as he was, but he’s certainly better than whatever we throw out at LB each week.
It's sad really...
It’s been said before, but I’ll say it again: This team has all the talent in the world to succeed, but the coaches just aren’t putting them in the right positions. You hire all this out-of-the-world talent, but fail to adequately address positions which reflect the entire scheme?
I’m not going to go ahead and say McDermott would have done a better job, but I sure as hell bet we wouldn’t have the record we have now with him.
Here is to just hoping we reach 8-8…
by EaglesForever20 on Oct 9, 2011 10:23 PM EDT reply actions
I wouldn't "hope" for 8-8.
4-12 would be much better, so we get higher draft picks… coming within 2 games of the playoffs would be more painful… we’d all be sitting here thinking “If Maclin didn’t drop that ball, if Maclin didn’t fumble that ball. If Henry made either of those two kicks. If Vick didn’t get concussed in teh Atlanta game. If Avant didn’t drop that ball. etc…”
At least if the Eagles tank the whole season, we know drastic changes will be made and we can start new with high draft picks.
We have enough...
… talent that we can trade for higher draft picks. Bona fide WR come along often, LBs not so much so. This team needs linebackers and OL. Whatever needs to be sacrificed to get them, sacrifice them. DeSean, Vick, Maclin, Shady, Cromartie, Asomugah…. whatever. That or be ready for long seasons while waiting to build from the draft.
by A Yahoo! user on Oct 9, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s not true at all.
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It's not?
Name all the NFL quality LBs that Reid has drafted. Name all the NFL quality OL drafted by Reid. He doesn’t know how to draft and the only way the team is going to get better is through trades.
by A Yahoo! user on Oct 9, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s not true that “bona fide WRs” are easier to find than LBs.
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I think you are overly optimistic...
This team has a starting linebacker corps with what? 10-15 games total experience. Signed Dbacks that play man covefrage and put them in a zone. A Wide-9 line with said inexperienced LBs. Finally, a team that lived on the blitz that doesn’t blitz.
There are way too many problems with the D alone to expect 8-8. And I’m not even going to get started with the offensive problems.
You’re the one obsessed with it. Go tell him how it’s all to blame for what happened today, despite the fact that hey barely used it….
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by JasonB on Oct 9, 2011 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I did not say it "A Yahoo!" user did
You also come with some BS negative comment. What do you have to say to “A Yahoo! user”?
I'm watching the Packers-Falcons game and I'm confused.
What are these, “adjustment” things that they say the Packers are making? They sound good.
I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.
charlie murphy<<<<< eddie murphy
Reporter: "What have you done for T.O., besides getting him suspended?"
Drew Rosenhaus: "Next question."
by So. Cal Swag on Oct 9, 2011 11:00 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
wait its charlie murphy>>>>>>>>eddie murphy
Ok its fixed
Reporter: "What have you done for T.O., besides getting him suspended?"
Drew Rosenhaus: "Next question."
by So. Cal Swag on Oct 9, 2011 11:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Alert
Any one who calls them the iggels, its not a fan, what in Gods creation is a iggle?
by Mrrc7 on Oct 9, 2011 11:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Forgive the spelling,I'm still kinda pissed
by Mrrc7 on Oct 9, 2011 11:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Um, if you’re not familiar with that name, you might be the one who’s not a fan.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Iggle = regional mispronunciation. I think Madden brought it to light way back in the day when he was a booth guy.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Yup. LIke how Steeler fans call their team “Stillers.”
The Philly accent makes it sound like Iggles.
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Oh..ok
Just seems like taking the symbol of the u.s.a ,a magnificent rare animal,military secret squad,(eagle)
and calling them iggles is kind of a slap , but now I understand
by Mrrc7 on Oct 9, 2011 11:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not disrespect, just a pronunciation thing. Like wooder ice.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
And crick (creek)
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My apologies....
Earlier in this thread I posted a really gross picture out of frustration with the way this game went. It was totally out of line of me and I wanted to apologize to anyone who was offended for not thinking before posting.
Thanks
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LOL...
Happened to me too, last week……….gotta keep calm.breathe deep.
It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.
the day we only score 3 points with this offense, is the day ill give everyone a dollar haha
by bleedgreen89 on Sep 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
by JJeaglerooter on Oct 10, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Dion Lewis
Anyone noticed he can’t return kicks for shit. Just saying, since we’re putting it all out there. Lets get everyone.
Dunno about that. He looks ok. Nothing special either way. He seems to have learned about when and when not to take the ball out.
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He just seems to never really get it out past the 20/25 ever. Not questioning his decision making, but he runs straight into the crowd everytime.
not to many do.
gotta agree with Jason……..least he is controlling the ball , and only taking ones he can get near the 20 or better.sometimes straight into it is the best option.side to side mostly goes backwards or causes stripped balls.
It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.
the day we only score 3 points with this offense, is the day ill give everyone a dollar haha
by bleedgreen89 on Sep 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
by JJeaglerooter on Oct 10, 2011 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know he just does not seem to be making anyone miss, there’s no cut.We’re 30th in kick returns. Considering we’re always getting scored on, that field position gives the offense a slight boost at times. I know its a small part of the game, but I don’t get that feel he’s ever gonna get very far,
by realmccoy25 on Oct 10, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
just gotta
Wait for it………at least he aint dropping it or going backwards.sooner or later he will find a crease,or pick up a block……….
It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.
the day we only score 3 points with this offense, is the day ill give everyone a dollar haha
by bleedgreen89 on Sep 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
by JJeaglerooter on Oct 10, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Ok, looked it up he’s averaging 21.2 yds per return with a long of 30, considering every kick goes into the end zone he should never bring it out.
Gotta use that reply button.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
disagree here........
gotta show fight and courage,whenever possible.one missed tackle and its a positive.
It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.
the day we only score 3 points with this offense, is the day ill give everyone a dollar haha
by bleedgreen89 on Sep 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
by JJeaglerooter on Oct 10, 2011 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I WILL STICK BY MY BOYS NO MATTER WHAT.
RIDE OR DIE.
"I brought two kegs,one of beer,one of gunpowder" -WARCLOUD
by Dunta Is A PUNK on Oct 9, 2011 11:54 PM EDT reply actions
Anyone notice the offense pick up after desean got going!
All of our loses should have been wins except for the loss to the new york football giants. Last week we miss 2 game winning fgs. This week Vick runs for a TD only to be called back by a pointless hand to the facemask by danny watkins. we would have been down only 3 after that and we still had 2 possessions after that. I see our lightning coming back! it really seems like the team started playing better after desean got going. I guess they remember all the time desean brought down the house at vets stadium.
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