Danny Watkins to get his first NFL start
by JimmyK on Oct 5, 2011 9:34 AM EDT
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PrintPer Geoff Mosher of the News Journal, rookie Danny Watkins will start this Sunday in Buffalo. Less than a week before the Eagles' opener in St. Louis, the Eagles signed Kyle DeVan off the scrap heap and plugged him in as the starting RG. DeVan was formerly an Indianapolis Colt, and was therefore familiar with Howard Mudd's blocking schemes, so the move made sense. At the time, Watkins was coming off several bad performances in the preseason, and there were major concerns about playing a rookie center (Jason Kelce) right next to a rookie RG.
Unfortunately for the Eagles, DeVan has not played well. He has been bullied in short yardage situations, and Pro Football Focus credited (or perhaps discredited) DeVan with giving up 2 sacks against the 49ers on Sunday.
Fortunately for the Eagles, Kelce has played well and has been a pleasant surprise, which should quell some of the concerns about 2 rookies playing side by side.
Watkins isn't the only new starter along the OL, by the way. King Dunlap will fill in for the injured Jason Peters at LT. Somehow, the Eagles are 3 point favorites in Buffalo this week.
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im not sure if this is irony, but just when the eagles need someone to light a fire under this team, they put in a fire fighter to start this weekend.
"Buddy doesn't have many rules but one of them is don't lose to the Cowboys."
People are hesitant to believe the bills given their history and a lackluster showing. I think the big thing though is that people see that the Eagles are playing for their season in this game.
"Descartes commanded the future from his study more than Napoleon did from his throne."
by Euler.is.a.Pimp on Oct 5, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Against watkins?
My moneys on my grandma
"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that."-Bill Shankly
Dont mind my typos, trying to be sneaky at work like the rest of you
Thats not fair
Your Grandmother is clearly much younger and has a much higher ceiling than Danny!
by D3DT on Oct 5, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
DeVan has gotten worse every week
Glad to see this move made. Watkins should be better in the run game.
The big problem this week is going to be somehow containing Williams. He’s an absolute monster. I’m scared.
"Descartes commanded the future from his study more than Napoleon did from his throne."
Shit
This move would have been a lot more comforting if it wasn’t made the week after DeVan struggled so mightily. Now, instead of feeling like he has caught up and has made progress enough to start, it feels like DeVan was just so bad they might as well throw Watkins in. Hell, if we are going to have a struggling RG, it might as well be our 1st round rookie. At least they can say he’s gaining valuable experience and improving, instead of a journeyman that isn’t going to get any better.
"A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject."
-Winston Churchill
by Midnight_Green_Lantern on Oct 5, 2011 10:00 AM EDT reply actions
Better than leaving DeVan in for no reason at all.
"Descartes commanded the future from his study more than Napoleon did from his throne."
by Euler.is.a.Pimp on Oct 5, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree
But its not much of a vote of confidence. Most of us assumed he would start at some point this season. I just hoped it would be because of the progress he has made more than the struggles of the guy in front of him.
"A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject."
-Winston Churchill
by Midnight_Green_Lantern on Oct 5, 2011 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
At the same time
If DeVan was playing well, Watkins would never get in. I like the move, regardless of how he gets in there. We have to see what the old man has.
by Mike Will is DoubleDown on Oct 5, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Then again
Looking at our starting oline at this point scares the hell out of me. Take a step back and realize this is what we will be relying on to protect our quarterback. You know, the one who has already had a concussion and is playing with two injured hands….
King Dunlap (that alone made me scream a little)
Evan Mathis (Couldn’t even start for Cincy)
Jason Kelce (Undersized late round rookie)
Danny Watkins (I just screamed again)
Todd Herremans (the only olineman I trust right now)
This isn’t going to be pretty.
"A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject."
-Winston Churchill
by Midnight_Green_Lantern on Oct 5, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Dunlap will be fine. Kelce has played fine too, but this week will be rough.
"Descartes commanded the future from his study more than Napoleon did from his throne."
by Euler.is.a.Pimp on Oct 5, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Rather play Justice though.
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Sorry to break the news
We are still Juan-3….
by Bleeding_Green_Eagle on Oct 5, 2011 10:06 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm not liking
the idea of going up against Dareus and Williams. That sure as shit favors the bills
Bad memories
Of watching Phil Taylor rag doll Watkins in the preseason. Pretty sure this will be the rule of day in Buffalo
About time.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
"To catch theme is my real test, to train them is my cause."
Lloyd's awful
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
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reply fail :(
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
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who cares ?
Let Watkins play, F it. . Also get Jarrett and LLoyd on the field as well. Could they be any worse than the shit we trot out there every week ? Maybe one of these guys does SOMETHING. Unlike any of our other LB’s or safeties. (outside of Rolle—-who has looked pretty good)
I think Lloyd could be worse.
"Descartes commanded the future from his study more than Napoleon did from his throne."
by Euler.is.a.Pimp on Oct 5, 2011 10:13 AM EDT up reply actions
while were at it, might as well go for the Andrew Luck Sweepstakes.
by Clyde Simmons on Oct 5, 2011 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Happy he gets to start. Please be great on sunday!
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Mikesta on Oct 5, 2011 10:24 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Oh and please let Nnamdi play a lot of press/man coverage.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
by Mikesta on Oct 5, 2011 10:28 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Having him in zone makes me cringe.
Byahhh!
by begforme4484 on Oct 5, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Danny surely wasn’t earning his paycheck just putting out kitchen fires at the NovaCare compound and handing out free eagles tickets with swoop at local firehouses. Hoping things go well for him on Sunday. We need it.
by andyreidswaistline on Oct 5, 2011 10:27 AM EDT reply actions
Don't expect a miracle
But perhaps Marty could help out our O-Line with some improved play calling.
Off topic...
I dont know how many of you have actually done a fanpost, but I just did my first. Be gentle with me.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
The Bills' sack total in 4 games so far: 3
The Bills’ sack total after next Sunday: 9.
That's what I'm talking about
Some good ole’ fashioned optimism.
The sad part is, I could see that being the case though.
"A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject."
-Winston Churchill
by Midnight_Green_Lantern on Oct 5, 2011 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I was optimistic the last two games...
Time for being pessimistic and hoping to be getting positively surprised…but my faith is slowly fading away…
Ja!
I was trying to be optimistic this season as well…that has not worked, so going into Philly mode assuming we’ll lose every game, and it’ll be a nice surprise if we win.
wonder how Vick feels about this...
I mean these are the guys that will be protecting him and you would think he should have a say with who he feels comfortable with and who he trusts to protect him. Not saying that he should actually have a “say” but be included in the discussion about puting Watkins in. Makes me a bit nervous.
"I'm Cracking Eggs of Wisdom!"
Why wouldn’t he be happy about a change given the way DeVan has played?
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No I agree with you.
I just meant, you wonder if Vick has that relationship with the coaches to say who he wants on the line. Watkins coming in this week could have been DeVans awful playing and a vote of confidence by Vick himself. Who knows. All the moves though is what makes me nervous. Having a guy make his first start in the regular season, everyone will be watching how he does.
"I'm Cracking Eggs of Wisdom!"
How has Shawne Merriman been looking this year? If I see his sack celebration…gaskets will be blown.
*On a scale of 1-10 how full of shit is sal pal?
Sweet dick it's magic!!!
decent against the run – very little pressure from a rushing the passer stand point
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by J2 on Oct 5, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
it’s almost if he’s not trying to rush the passer. it seems like, maybe because we’ve played Charles, McFadden, Brady (hands up in throwing lanes) and Benson that they’ve focused on not letting cut back runs and they are trying to push the pocket.
he’s gotten close to the QB a few times but nothing consistent
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by J2 on Oct 5, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s almost as if since he stopped taking PED’s he’s either been injured or a shell of his former self…
what a coincidence.
In other news, A-Rod sucks at baseball now too.
The Jruth shall be told.
Timing of this might be wrong...here me out
I agree we need to do some thing different on this team whether it be shake up the line-up or bring in someone that can help this ball club.
But im very nervous about this move on the basis that with Jason Kelce at Center and Jason Peters out on injury the last thing we need to do I think is break up the cohesiveness of this line. Dont we remember the first game of the season how horrible the line was in the first half and how long it took for them to start gelling as a unit? Im 100% in agreement that at some point we need to see what Watkins is made of but with Vick banged up, Jason Peters out with injury and King Dunlap replacing him, and a young Jason Kelce at Center and our defensive woes, it really worries me putting in a guy like Watkins that hasn’t even dressed up until this point.. I hope he does well
"Buddy doesn't have many rules but one of them is don't lose to the Cowboys."
Break up cohesiveness? What cohesiveness? Here, look at this video. That’s what we’re “losing” by sitting DeVan and starting Watkins.
It can’t get worse than than. In fact, given Watkins’ pedigree, it will hopefully get better. At least he’s known as a powerful guy who can move people around.
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Kelce is the guy that im worried about more so than Watkins. I agree Watkins is probally a upgrade, my big concern is picking up blitzes and having this line gel quickly to protect a already banged up Vick. If Peters was healthy Id feel alot better about this move although Watkins is on the oppsosite side of the ball. Id much rather have Jackson come back at center to replace Kelce if were bringing in Watkins and Dunlap. Kelce is going to worry me alot more this weekend than Watkins.
"Buddy doesn't have many rules but one of them is don't lose to the Cowboys."
He hast been great.
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 5, 2011 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Fair enough…I still would rather JAckson in there
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 5, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Jackson doesn't fit this system, he can't get to the 2nd level, he surely can't get to the 3rd level.
He actually hampers they system.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
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this sytem sucks
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 5, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
they dont even use it properly. They dont have the same players that the Colts had…and they are just clearly not using it effectively…so if theyre going to screw it up like that, Id rather have Jackson in there…he’s more consistent and he’s bigger beef iand he can recognize more plays from the Defense.
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 5, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
The system doesn't suck.
Look at the running game, up until Andy decided to avoid McCoy like the plague he was leading the NFC in rushing yardage.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
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Until it brings TDs dude…i just dont care about the yardage to be honest with you…I just dont…
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 5, 2011 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions
the big problem i have with this offensive line scheme is we brought in Mudd and are starting faster more atheltic guys to help the run yet we pass 85% of the time still. If were going to start committing to the run then fine use kelce, if were just gonna drop back and continue to air it out id rather have jackson back
"Buddy doesn't have many rules but one of them is don't lose to the Cowboys."
this is my point
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 5, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah but..
in short yardage Kelce cant get to the damn first level. Jackson can.
Please tell me, what has Kelce done to stand out in a negative fashion?
Because he’s actually been a good asset to this team.
You’re looking for a power running game because that’s all you know, you apparently know nothing if you keep calling for Kelce’s head.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
im not calling for kelces head because hes playing poorly, im calling for jackson back at center because were not committing to the run and id rather have a veteran at center with peters out and a rookie starting at RG for the first time. If were going to air it out i feel safer with jackson picking up blitzes and making adjustments at the line
"Buddy doesn't have many rules but one of them is don't lose to the Cowboys."
Short yardage.
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
by KByars on Oct 5, 2011 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yea i almost forgot about that. Devan fucked up that play when ronnie brown tried for the run/pass/choke option but i dont see kelce blowing peeps off the ball in the red zone, ill have to go back and look at the game again.
"Buddy doesn't have many rules but one of them is don't lose to the Cowboys."
Well..
Ive seen him get blown up or back plenty of times, but that is to be expected from an undersized late round pick. He is a smart Cerebral player, but he has to get stronger in the offseason. Won’t argue with him being a great pick where we got him.
ok, the giants suck.
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 4th
He's a good pick where we got him.
Great not yet.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
ok whats the advantage of mudds system considering they never had a running game that ranked better than 15th in all the years mudd was the line coach for the colts. were a passing team, whats the advantage of having small athletic lineman if we pas all the time?
"Buddy doesn't have many rules but one of them is don't lose to the Cowboys."
Umm.
Peyton Manning was QB so the Colts barely ran enough to make it a weapon.
The Advantage is the ZBS which if you can’t tell has done wonders for McCoy.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
wild eagle, im not trying to play devils advocate or anything but im just not in favor of having smaller more athletic lineman. its hard to gauge a team like the colts for the last 10 years because yes they did have one of the greatest quaterbacks of all time. mccoy did pretty good last year being ranked 9th in rushing with 120 less carries than arian foster and ranked 14th in the league in receiving which includes running back and wide receivers.
were having serious problems in the red zone and i think thats a direct reflection of not being able to pound the ball. i just dont see a big push from the middle of this line when we get close which is why id like to see a return to the big boys.
"Buddy doesn't have many rules but one of them is don't lose to the Cowboys."
Yesr
Not sure if there was drug/alch. influence when he posted that, but Watkins is def. a wise move at this point. Not that hes a stud prowbowler sure to make a huge impact in his first start but hes 1st rnd pick… Time to put the hard hat on and make a name. Besides if he has a bad showing its still improvement!
by scolabird on Oct 5, 2011 11:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
not sure if your response was directed at me, however if you read closely my point is not anti-watkins as much as it is im worried about shaking up the line because of kelce. Again i must state i want to see Watkins out there, i questioned the timing of the move. were going to have a rookie at center, a rookie at RG, a LG at RT, Mathis at LG someone who was cut by the bengals, and Dunlap at LT. when i say breaking up the cohesiveness of the line worries me, it not me defending De Van, its me worrying about Kelce.
everyone knows it can take a while for a line to come together and gel as a unit. with basically no offseason, your going to infuse 2 new players into a lineup thats already shaky. is watkins a upgrade over de van? of course he is. but were 1-3 and this is a big game and vick is already banged up.
my solution to this line was putting jackson back at center to bring some sort of veteran presence to this weeks game. has kelce played horrible? nope hes lived up to expectations, he hasn’t been horrible, but yet again he has not been good in the red zone, and he fails to pick up blitzes at times.
"Buddy doesn't have many rules but one of them is don't lose to the Cowboys."
btw how is saying if he has a bad showing its still an improvement? put on the tape of eagles vs browns
"Buddy doesn't have many rules but one of them is don't lose to the Cowboys."
Um, simple.
Watkins against the Browns >>>>> DeVan playing against the Giants and 49ers.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
i remember when...
I used to voice these problems we’re having as concerns in the preseason. I remember when I said Danny Watkins was the worst pick of the Reid era. I remember you all telling me I was a pessimist and that the Eagles know what they’re doing so I should just shut up..,times were simpler then…
You forgot to emphasize the fact that hes TWENTY FRIGGIN FIVE.
That pick blew dog shit. Last year we had DTO, this year we have Jarrett and Watkins. Fantastic.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 5, 2011 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
jackson
Could jamaal play any of the other o-line positions?
by statler on Oct 5, 2011 11:09 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
he should be centre
he and Watkins would provide a lot more beef and toughness up front…
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 5, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Honestly is the O Line really what we are all worried about
Yes the Eagles have struggled running the ball when they have to (IE down at the goal line etc), but for the most part the offense has not been the problem with the exception of turnovers.
I would be more excited to hear the Page is being sat at SS or something is being done regarding the atrocity that is the LB position right now. Unless we plan on scoring 30-40 point per game the defense is the real issue.
ya love all the talk about the Oline
it has been better than expected. sure they suck ass at short yardage and goal line situations no surprise there they are small and cant get any push. how bout the coaches scheme and call better plays that make more sense considering the situation? IDK JUST A THOUGHT. if i see another run up the middle on a 4 and 1 again….
He can’t be any worse then DeVan & if he wasn’t going to start soon I was going to start questioning if he was a worse pick then McDougle.
I’d like to see Jarrett get on the field but not sure if that will happen anytime soon & I think we should make Harbor the starter at TE. Vick & Celek don’t seem to connect the way Celek was able to with McNabb & Kolb, & everything seems to bounce off of his hands now.
well
i dont care if its Celek or Harbour…. we need more 2 TE sets and we need to get them a lot more involved. This offense depends on their TEs. Marty needs to draw up some new plays.
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 5, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
F!@#$ THAT !!!
We need to run 4WR sets to spread out the defense and give Vick some options… having only 2 WR against an entire secondary is going to end badly for a heavily rushed QB. Being passive and allowing the defense to dictate the game is not the answer here. We need to take charge, let Vick run around if he needs to … but if there are 4 guys running around out there trying to get open, he will find one of them a lot quicker than 2 guys vs 2 CBs + FS + SS.
As painful as it is to say, they need to let this line do its job and put the ball in Vicks hands. If the line fails, then you hold their feet to the fire, but by not giving Vick the targets he needs, you have already lost this game.
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by thePurpleLion on Oct 5, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
My point was meant for Red Zone plays. 4 WR sets are great too and I Want them to use more of them, but the aTEs need to get involved in the passing game
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 5, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
they do for sure… unfortunately, the Reid administration thinks they are better served as blockers.
My problem was that they ran so many double TE plays they were shooting themselves in the foot by not giving the talent that we have the ability to get open. A double TE (aka a 2 WR set) set is great for a team that constantly blitzes LBs and safeties because they are not out covering the WRs. However, most teams dont seem to need to blitz us to get at our QB … leaving their entire secondary and all the linebackers out there waiting for a pick, or to leave a lasting mark on the WRs heads.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Oct 5, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeh…its true
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 5, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
No fucking that.
We have to get the TE’s involved more. They attack the middle of the field, they’re getting open a lot.
While I disagree with ShadyMcVickFactor’s 2 TE set idea I do agree that the TE’s need to be involved more.
I’d almost rather have Harbor in there because the dude can fly.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
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Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
This was a no brainer move. DeVan has been terrible. People forget that Watkins was regarded as the best guard prospect in the draft. Like all rookies, he was behind the 8 ball this season, but I’d rather see him out there taking his lumps than DeVan. His upside is on another planet than DeVan.
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I would take Pouncey (as a guard not a center) over Watkins in an instant. Maybe the 2nd best.
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***OFFICIALLY ON THE FIRE ANDY REID BANDWAGON***
God, I remember saying this 20 years ago, and I am still saying this about the Eagles ... which Eagles team is going to show up. ...
the one that runs 4 WR sets and scores at will … or the one that runs double TE sets and gets our QB killed.
the one that all but shut down Michael Turner … or the one that gets walked all over on by Frank Gore (with 8.5 yards per carry)
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
It has been over a month...
…since we have seen Danny Watkins, and that nearly DOUBLES his time as an Eagle. Hopefully he has learned some things and improved somewhat. We will see.
I am not expecting the Bills to have some blistering pass rush or anything. I won’t be surprised if they win though.
Since they have had two good comebacks of their own, it will be interesting to see what the second half holds this week. I really don’t want to be up 35-3 at the half and lose 38-35.
I called this.
DeVan was good the 1st game then has been terrible since, I’m surprised it took the Eagles this long. DeVan can’t pass protect, he barely gets movement in the running game… It was time for a change.
Watkins did have his mistakes during the pre-season but most of those were mental lapses rather than not being able to do the job physically. Watkins actually made good blocks when he didn’t step the wrong way or mess up a call. It’ll be interesting watching him.
This move is for the better, I’ve been calling for it over the past week. DeVan’s awful.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
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Yeh same here. I had predicted week 5 or 6. Good call. Watkins needs his time in there to see what he can do. I still think they need to switch Kelce and Jackson. I know you’re high on Kelce, but I just think they need more beef and toughness out there right now. Kelce gets aboslutely blown up on some plays every single game…
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 5, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
Kelce does get blown up on some plays, and we're going to have to deal with that.
But would you rather him get beat 2-3 times a game yet be able to get out in space 2-3 times a game and make a key block that springs Vick, McCoy or whoever for a TD or big yardage or would you rather have Jamaal who can’t get to the 2nd level, who doesn’t fit the Zone Blocking Scheme and who can’t spring these guys out in space?
Kelce vs Jackson is a worthless battle. Kelce fits the system, he’s been doing well so don’t fix what ain’t broke.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
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IN THEORY…..that may be true dude… but the reality is that they are not using the suystem properly or they just dont have the personel and its costing them… Marty isnt going to change…Reid isnt going to change…theyre going to keep calling these stupid gimmick plays which is underutilizing whichever system they are suppose to run with the OL
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 5, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree.
But as of right now the system’s working, it’s other factors that are fucking us.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
..yeh…. they need to score TDs…. thats all that matters..and theyre just not doing that right now… so….something needs to change…
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 5, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
The System is Working
They are moving the ball with ease up and down the field, it’s just the red zone issues. I would be fine for bringing Jackson in for goal line plays, where you need that push up front. Other than that though, Kelce is much better for what they are doing. He sprung McCoy on both his TD’s in St. Louis, getting to the second level, if you think he’s not the right fit, or the system isn’t working, your not watching close enough.
by BKing in the AZ on Oct 5, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
St louis was 4 games ago dude… they arent using Shady enough to justify the Kelce move….
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 5, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. The move is one or two weeks too late. I liked the idea of Devan when we were on the road in domes for weeks 1 and 2, with a brand new C and a new RT. Devan added stability and that made sense despite his weaknesses.
Short yardage failures have cost us the last two games, and Watkins should improve that area.
by Clyde Simmons 96 on Oct 5, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Completely agreed.
DeVan’s purpose was to come in and help that OL kinda gel and to take Watkins place until he learns the system and what to do. DeVan added some stability even though he wasn’t a very good OLmen.
Now I think this move should’ve been made last week, but for some reason I knew it’d be done before this game.
Watkins and Herremans blocking on short yardage situations makes me a bit happier.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
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Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Watkins Next to Herramans
Is going to help him so much to. In the preseason he was playing next to terrible Right Tackles. Herramans hasn’t been a dominant Right Tackle, but there is no way Herramans is going to let Watkins get lost in the fray out there. I like the move, and we may have a really strong Right Side Run Game now, kind of like running behind Peters and Herramans to the Left was last year.
by BKing in the AZ on Oct 5, 2011 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude, we should have a nasty right side to go along with our ability to run to the left side..
Why we’re not a more balanced Offense is just mindfucking me.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Well
I guess now is as good as a time as ever. At least we are getting our draft picks some playing time! I really hope he has improved from preseason though because he looked awful.
Men judge generally more by the eye than by the hand, for everyone can see and few can feel. Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are-Il Principe
I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7
His issue was the mental aspect of things.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Well hopefully
an extra month of studying and practicing lets him actually live up to his draft number.
Men judge generally more by the eye than by the hand, for everyone can see and few can feel. Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are-Il Principe
I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7
Why is Andy so upbeat?
In his PC….
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 5, 2011 11:50 AM EDT reply actions
I think he's just less angry ..
but he’s saying the same vague shit he always says
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 5, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
But I don't want him to be less angry
he should be angry all week long, and on Sunday, and the week after, the Sunday after, during the bye, after the bye, on Sunday Night, on Monday night, hell even on Christmas!!!
I will say this...
I have not seen this much frustration from our team in a LONG time.
Vick frustrated at the mic bitching about the non-calls for roughing the passer…
Andy frustrated saying he and his team played terrible, then getting up and walking away from the podium.
It is really showing.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Oct 5, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
..the pressure is building …about to blow….
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 5, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe It will blow
In Washington DC for 59 points of absolute ass kicking
by BKing in the AZ on Oct 5, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope it blows
this Sunday. I have a good feeling that it’s going to blow. I think the whole team is going to BLOW
At this point....
I am ready to expect just about anything from the shuffling and learning or meshing talents.
But I really hope Watkins shines this next time onfield.Sometimes guys just have to take a step back before taking a
It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.
the day we only score 3 points with this offense, is the day ill give everyone a dollar haha
by bleedgreen89 on Sep 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
big step forward
It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.
the day we only score 3 points with this offense, is the day ill give everyone a dollar haha
by bleedgreen89 on Sep 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Vs the bills
Does anybody think the Eagles have a shot?
This season is so ugly. I’m scared to even watch the games. That Maclin fumble last game was so hard to watch. The Ronnie Brown fuck up at the 1 yard line was brutal. And the fact that we have now blown three 4th quarter leads absolutely pisses me off.
As an eagle fan I would like to think they have a shot vs Buffalo… But I’m so skeptical now, I think our entire team from the coaches all the way to special teams is suspect.
by It's_my_VICK_in_a_box! on Oct 5, 2011 12:20 PM EDT reply actions
its funny the way I see it….I am predicting a blow out one way….. i just dont know which team will come out on top
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 5, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course we have a shot
The last 3 losses were all close ones (even the Giants game, if the score didn’t reflect it). In all 3 games the Offense played really well in spurts, the Defense was strong in spurts.
It’s hard to pinpoint any one single issue, but it is pretty obvious that the team is failing completely in the 4th quarter, and some individual boneheaded plays are costing the team on major plays, that are costing them games.
We could be a Top 10 team if we clean up all the stupid individual mistakes. I think a lot of blame should be put on the coaches by now, if its not already obvious. Poor scheming, poor play calling, poor use of our personnel, and total lack of fundamentals at crucial times (tackling, protecting the ball, blah blah blah)
the way i look at it
we lost to the 49ers. so id say there is a good chance of losing this game. i think its important for us to start seeing some better playing from the players tackling and whatever and much better game plan and play calling from the coaches. if it stays the same as it has the season so far. then idk.
why not throw in Jamaal Jackson in there?
by G00SE on Oct 5, 2011 12:48 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
IT'S ANDY REID!!!!!!
Ok, yeah we have problems @ the offensive line that we had last year. ANDY didn’t address them in the draft. I think ANDY is actually the biggest problem we have because of his refusal to change his philosophy! If it isn’t refusing to have his talented running backs carry 20-25 times a game, it’s his bullshit playcalling in the redzone and in short yardage situations. I think ANDY is best @ mismanaging the talent he has. For instance: Nnamdi Asomugha is a man to man physical corner. Why have him play predominantly in zones??? Which brings me to my next point and I feel this is the HEART of why we are now 1-3……WHO THE FUCK TURNS AN OFFENSIVE LINE COACH INTO A DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR AND DEPENDS ON HIM TO MANAGE MULTIPLE PRO-BOWLERS? ANDY! That’s who. Juan can’t possibly posess the knowledge to put these probowlers in a position to excell. THE WIDE 9 DEFENSE IS BULLSHIT! In 4 games we’ve allowed 558 yds on the ground and 10TD passes thanks to the wide 9. We might as well play a prevent defense for the whole game!!!! People thought that it was Donovan’s fault we weren’t winning. I knew better. Ok with McNabb we went 11-5 and got put out the 1st rnd of the playoffs NOT because of his play but because ANDY played the same gameplan against Dallas 3 times and 3 times we got our asses kicked. Oh we made it to the superbowl with McNabb and he got criticized for throwing up. Maybe it was his 51 attempts that had him sick to the stomach! Let’s see 51att passing and 17 att rushing??? Is that balanced?! SMH, I can go on for days but I’ll end it by saying this. for the past 13 yrs our team has survived because of good QB talent and great defense. The McNabb era came to an end @ 11-5 and then came the Vick Era. We went 10-6 and got beat 1st rnd of the playoffs……AGAIN. That tells me that it ISN’T the QBs fault. I’m tired of hearing that it’s because Vick got injured that we lost those games. Ok why did we lose when Vick had one of his best statistical games of his career and we STILL LOST?! THE PROBLEM IS ANDY… WAKE UP!!!! I pray to the footbal gods that Jeff Lurie notices and fixes this situation because I’ve seen better coaches fired for much less. 12 yrs worth of talent and we can’t win a superbowl?! C’MON MAN!!!!!!!!
All of your points...
…have fairly significant counter arguments.
Why do people always think I'm playing the Race Card???
Is it because I'm black???
we have problems @ the offensive line that we had last year. ANDY didn’t address them in the draft.
He did by drafting Watkins, Kelce, and Vandervelde. Maybe they all didnt turn out the way he hoped.
WHO THE FUCK TURNS AN OFFENSIVE LINE COACH INTO A DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR
I am so sick of people saying this … Castillo was a linebacker when he played. It was wierder to hire him as an O-line coach than it was as DC.
THE WIDE 9 DEFENSE IS BULLSHIT!
We have also had the best pass rush this team has seen since Reggie White, Clyde Simmons, and Jerome Brown.
for the past 13 yrs our team has survived because of good QB talent and great defense.
Andy Reid has been one of the best quarterback developers this league has ever known. To say that the only reason we won was because of Donovan is … well, its just plain wrong. Dont get me wrong, I love Donovan, and Reid (no homo), but I beleive it is more accurate to say that Donovan was good BECAUSE of Reid. Not vice versa. The evidence of this doesnt stop with McNabb. Look at AJ Feely, Garcia, and soon to be Kolb.
I’m tired of hearing that it’s because Vick got injured that we lost those games.
I could not agree more. The people saying that are the moron pundits that didnt watch the game. Turnovers are killing us. Defensive scheme is killing us. 2 TE sets are killing us. Not Vick. Vick just set another record last week as the first person to throw for 400+yrds and rush for 75.
I’ve seen better coaches fired for much less.
Please tell me who you think is better than Reid that was fired. You would be hard pressed to find a coach as successful as Andy, who has been fired, let alone fired for going 1 -3!!!
Sorry to call you out on this man, but seriously, get your facts straight.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Oct 5, 2011 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Dammit...don't take my idea!
LMAO…
I’m at work about to destroy this post and you did it before I could…let me just read yours and add my own then.
Why do people always think I'm playing the Race Card???
Is it because I'm black???
not so fast........
HEY, I posted the previous comments concerning ANDY. 1st and foremost let me say this. While our views may differ, we ALL have the same thing in common which is we consider this EAGLE team ours and we REP to the FULLEST. Maybe I’m frustrated but for 13yrs the only solution I can think of is new blood @ the head coaching position!!! He’s been here since 99 and we just have an NFC championship and a bunch of division titles. When are we gonna say let’s try something different because this shit just ain’t working. We’ve been tweaking shit for over a decade and look @ the results, more notably in the past 5yrs. Yes I understand Andy is from the Holmgren Tree of coaches, but I’ve never held him in that high regard. He ran a pass heavy offense that got him a superbowl win in 96. ALOT has changed since15yrs ago but not ANDY. I believe you have to adapt to change to avoid being mediocre. I’m TIRED of us being the ONLY NFC EAST team without a ring!!! The Castillo move, regardless to him playing an LB in college, WAS A DUMB ONE! College is college! The only thing that means is maybe he would make a decent LINEBACKER coach. Juan just doesn’t fit, and I think that move alone is haunting us. I feel we should switch back to a base 4-3 which is small linebacker friendly, and maybe experiment with the wide 9 in certain situations. If they audible 2 a run then by all means audible outta the wide 9. It’s not rocket science, just simple xs & os. I JUST WANT TO WIN and I’m sorry, I don’t believe Andy can do it. I don’t want to see our most talented squad in YEARS go to waste and I have to deal with these cowgirl, midget, and deadskins fans taunting me. You’ll read about me in the papers…….“PHILLY FAN GOES POSTAL!!!!”
purple i agree with almost everything you said in your rebuttal but the one thing i thin you got way wrong is defending Juan Castillo at DC. After firing Sean last year youd have to figure we would of went out and got a veteran defensive coordinator whos scheme is sound and to turn around and promote Juan is pretty awful decision making by Reid.
Castillo coached linebackers and was the defensive coordinator at Kingsville High School from 1986–1989.
Castillo was the defensive line coach for Texas A&M University–Kingsville from 1982–1985 and from 1990–1994 he was the offensive line coach.
The Philadelphia Eagles hired Castillo as an offensive assistant in 1995 under Ray Rhodes
Castillo was promoted to tight ends coach in 1997, and switched to coaching the offensive line in 1998 up until 2010
switching from a postional coach from one side of the ball is pretty odd, but going from offensive postional coach to defensive coordinator is ludacris. Super bowl contender dont mae defensive coordinators out of people whos only defensive coaching experience is 4 years at some high in the 80’s and 3 years as a positional coach at a division 2 college. Im sorry but the hate agains’t the move is warranted, even if Juan is one of the greatest guys and hardworking guys in the NFL until he can prove himself different
"Buddy doesn't have many rules but one of them is don't lose to the Cowboys."
Misunderstanding … I am not defending Juan Castillo, I am defending Andy’s decision to hire him. Juan has failed miserably … so far. I dont see him getting replaced midseason. But he cant get much worse.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Oct 5, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
yea but im attacking reids decision making for putting Juan at defensive coordinator. I think on the coaching history of Juan i just mentioned there isn’t any grounds for justifying making him the coordinator and the hate for reid making that move is justified so far since it hasn’t panned out
"Buddy doesn't have many rules but one of them is don't lose to the Cowboys."
Green and Pack ...
Yes you can criticize Andy for hiring Juan. The buck stops with him. I dont think it was forseeable that he would have been this bad. Ultimately, Andy gets the blame because he is HC. But AT THE TIME, I didnt, nor did many people who knew Juan, think that it was such a bad idea.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Oct 5, 2011 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
How can you not blame Andy for the decision to hire someone who can’t do their job?
The Jruth shall be told.
the only thing that keeps me from saying Andy Reid has got to go asap is the fact that Jack Del Rio is still coaching
"Buddy doesn't have many rules but one of them is don't lose to the Cowboys."
The irony is that he turne our offensive line coach into the D coordinator and now our O line AND our defense is in shambles!!!! Thanks ANDY, way 2 go!!!!
You're kidding right?
Del Rio’s a bad HC he makes crazy ass moves and doesn’t value the OL or WR’s… We’d be better of with Wade Phillips.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Kelce's played well???
Why do people always think I'm playing the Race Card???
Is it because I'm black???
I think he has exceeded the expectations...
…of a sixth round pick, but no, I don’t think he’s played well. He allows too much instant pressure up the middle. Too many unaccounted blitzers directly in Vick/McCoy’s face. While he may be an asset on the edges with his speed, I think that he gives up too much in the form of pressure up the middle on regular plays to be described as “played well”. In other words, for every time you can show me where his speed has been an asset on the edges, I can show you where his lack of size has been a liability in the middle. And that is not a tradeoff I think we should make…especially with Jackson on the bench.
Why do people always think I'm playing the Race Card???
Is it because I'm black???
Yep!!
And they barely use their running game…which is the whole reason he’s in there….
Until they get TDs in teh RZ with their running game, I will not be convinced that Kelce should be starting ahead of JAckson
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 5, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
How
are you so certain Jackson still has it? He’s gone down with significant injuries the past few seasons he’s played. Sooner or later these guys’ bodies give out on them.
by ChillBillinChina on Oct 5, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
its a good point, but we wont find out unless we put him out there.
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 5, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not. No one is.
I’m just saying that he is, or at least was, a better lineman in the interior than Kelce is. He is more experienced in this offense at knowing the weaknesses of plays called. He is more experienced against defenses and what he sees lined up on the other side. And that trading all that for the few plays where Kelce gets out in front of an outside run for a pull block is ridiculous.
Why do people always think I'm playing the Race Card???
Is it because I'm black???
So tell me what you're seeing...
…
Why do people always think I'm playing the Race Card???
Is it because I'm black???
It’s more what I’m not seeing, which is all these supposed free rushers burning Kelce up the middle on pass plays.
Yup completely agree.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
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Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Remember...
…you said all last year that McGlynn was playing well. Where is he?
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Is it because I'm black???
lol
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Oct 5, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
He was playing well.
He’s in Cincy.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
They aren't free, per se...
…they are just being inadequately blocked. Sorry, but if the defensive tackle pushes you two yards in the backfield on a run play, that is a loss. And since he is the last one to make a protection call, even after Vick, then he has to be correct in what he is seeing…something that experience no doubt helps with.
Why do people always think I'm playing the Race Card???
Is it because I'm black???
Actually...
…I was not a big fan of McGlynn in the middle, but I would take him over Kelce right now. I remember watching the Atlanta game and taking notes of how many times Kelce was a problem to the offense and Matthews was to the defense. The list on both sides was the same length…and Matthews is now on the bench.
Why do people always think I'm playing the Race Card???
Is it because I'm black???
Let me see if I can find them...
I actually saw your breakdown (or one of you guys’) of the game and thought that it was piling on to make another post about it. I’ll see if I can find them though. However, there were EXTREME cases of penetration up the middle. And that is the one thing that you simply cannot give up. Vick’s mobility covers a lot of deficiencies, but not even he can consistently perform at a high level with pressure up the middle.
Why do people always think I'm playing the Race Card???
Is it because I'm black???
I'd like to see your notes on Kelce like Jimmy does.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
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Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Fun Stats and im not trying to say anything by posting this
Mudd was with the Colts from 1998-2008. Heres how the colts ranked running the ball during those years
1998 = 26th place
1999 = 19th place
2000 = 16th place
2001 = 7th place
2002 = 26th place
2003 – 19th place
Washburn started in 1999 and lasted in tennesee until last year, heres how his defenses did against the run
1999 = 10th place
2000 = 3rd place
2001 = 5th place
2002 = 2nd place
2003 = 1st place
2004 = 18th place
2005 = 22nd place
2006 = 30th place
2007 = 5th place
2008 = 6th place
2009 = 10th place
2010 = 20th place
2004 =15th place
2005 = 16th place
2006 = 18th place
2007 = 18th place
2008 = 31st place
"Buddy doesn't have many rules but one of them is don't lose to the Cowboys."
its saying plenty
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 5, 2011 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Take a look at your post and tell us if you see anything wrong.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
I don't see anything wrong.
I don’t see anything wrong again.
lol
Why do people always think I'm playing the Race Card???
Is it because I'm black???
Peyton Manning.
That’s all I gotta say.
And you fucked up the order of the washburn stats, need to get those in order.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
New motto for the season: “It can’t get any worse.”
AR should have to wear a Flava Flav necklace until he learns how to manage a fucking clock.
I am the proud target of temper tantrums.
Nope
Eff it We're Winning Anways
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Per @profootballfocus snap counts. 6 1st-rd. picks have played 0 snaps. 4 have been injured, 1 is a backup QB. The other is Watkins.
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by PhiladelphiaEagles on Oct 5, 2011 2:01 PM EDT reply actions
makes sense
with no offseason and all…
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 5, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes...
…But how many teams went until Week 5 without dressing not even one of their top 3 draft picks. Oh wait…Jarrett played special teams last week…sorry.
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Is it because I'm black???
Im with you man…..
I dunno there are so many moving parts on that team right now…i dont know where the blame lies anymore…. it seems everyone is fuckin up in one way or another… and therye 1-3 so…. pretty indicative….
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 5, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Namdey Asomgua sucks.
We should have signed Antoneo Cromote so he could have taught his brother, cousin, son or however they are related how to play in teh slotz.
I also h8 his nice guy act. I herd he blows through teh hoes faster than runningbacks thru our dfense.
I'll Have a Samuel Jackson. It'll get ya drunk. Mmm-mmm b***h.
acid kills man
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Lay off the drugz man
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
It's the draft, stupid . . . plus bad planning on Juan
Juan might be a defensive genius. Not likely.
But Reid chose to install the genius knowing that a lockout was coming — so Juan’s new scheme would get no serious off-season practice time.
Reid hired Washburn 2 weeks before he picked Juan for D.C.
Maybe Juan’s not a “Wide 9” guy, but now he’s stuck with it.
Reid went into the draft and chose a guy w/ 4 years of AMERICAN FOOTBALL experience — changed his position and moved him to the other side of the line. And is probably learning some zany new blocking theories from Mudd.
Think about that. The guy barely has AMERICAN FOOTBALL experience. And no off-season. And a new position.
Jarrett in Rd 2. A great tackler but a 4.6 40 guy who, if memory serves, was never forced into many man-to-man coverage situations at Temple.
Why’d we take him, exactly? To replace Dawk? Dawk, out of his safety position, was a 3rd corner until Al Harris came along.
Vendevelde. Marsh. Mathews.
All terrible picks.
I’m not interested in the argument that all rookies faced this problem.
Aldon Smith — the 49ers first rounder in 2011 — collected 1.5 sacks this past Sunday. And he gave Peters fits all day.
This team is a shell of a good team because it has no depth. It has no “pretty good” players piled up from the past 5 drafts.
Sure. We have a handful of offensive gems at skill positions.
But, no matter what Reid may say or think, DEFENSE WINS GAMES.
His defensive drafting has sucked. He’s depended on the free-agent market to fix the drafting errors.
(Howie Roseman . . . you’re NOT a good personnel guy. Sorry.)
And that’s that.
ugh … do I have to do it again … Qwest, you want this one?
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Oct 5, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Glad you took it...
…my workload was crazy today!
LMAO
Why do people always think I'm playing the Race Card???
Is it because I'm black???
Just a few things...
But Reid chose to install the genius knowing that a lockout was coming
Did he have a choice?
Reid hired Washburn 2 weeks before he picked Juan for D.C.
Maybe Juan’s not a "Wide 9" guy, but now he’s stuck with it.
1. What makes you say hes not a wide nine guy? 2. Yes, he is stuck with it. Washburn is proven as one of the best Dline coaches in the league and has shown the best pass rush this team has seen in 20 years. Juan should be grateful to work with him.
The guy barely has AMERICAN FOOTBALL experience. And no off-season. And a new position.
not to mention was touted as one of the best Guards in the draft.
This team is a shell of a good team because it has no depth
At some positions (CB, QB, RB, TE, WR, DE) we are stacked.
But, no matter what Reid may say or think, DEFENSE WINS GAMES.
Thats a great sound byte but really it prevents other teams from winning games.
Howie Roseman . . . you’re NOT a good personnel guy.
Just plain wrong… he financially manipulated this teams contracts in anticipation of this lockout and capitalized like no other team has. He has brought in PROVEN PRO BOWL players. The fact that Juan cannot put them in a scheme that they are good at and help them all gel together, is certainly not his fault.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Oct 5, 2011 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Your wrong
Howie had to know that hiring Juan for the job was too risky. Juan never coached D# before. He was our O-Line coach and he sucked at that so what made anybody think that moving this guy from O# to D# would make things any better?
1. what does howie roseman have to do with the hiring of Juan?
"Buddy doesn't have many rules but one of them is don't lose to the Cowboys."
Howie did an great job as far as getting us some good talent.
But does Howie have any say in D# Coordinator selection?
ZERO say in who coaches will be. That wa Andy. And yes your right Howie did have a great year bringing in players though to help u
"Buddy doesn't have many rules but one of them is don't lose to the Cowboys."
everybody has 20/20 heindsight vision ...
AT THE TIME, it was not a bad decision to hire him. Like I said, Juan will be held accountable … and Andy is just as guilty but its guilt by association.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Oct 5, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Disagree here...
…even at the time it was a risky decision. It’s not hindsight to say that moving your OLine coach to be your DCordinator is risky. Hell, he COULD have been the next Jim Johnson…but that was a serious longshot when compared against the possibility of him being a total failure.
Why do people always think I'm playing the Race Card???
Is it because I'm black???
lol
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eagles4lyfe ...
Castillo coached linebackers and was the defensive coordinator at Kingsville High School from 1986–1989.
Castillo was the defensive line coach for Texas A&M University–Kingsville from 1982–1985
This was said above in the comments in case you missed it. Juan also played LB back in the day. And as I said above, it was wierder to make him the offensive line coach than it was to make him the DC.
To defend Andy’s decision to hire him, Juan was a GREAT motivator as our Oline coach, had a great understanding of the WHOLE GAME because of his history coaching both sides of the ball.
However, I do not defend how unsuccessfull he has been. There has to be accountablity, with him, and ultimately with Andy. Though, I dont think it was that bad of an idea AT THE TIME to hire him.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Oct 5, 2011 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Well how do you feel about Castillo now?
You know 1982-1985 was like 1000 years ago LOL. As far as High School that can’t count for much.
He is failing miserably!!! But the question i think is, was this forseeable… I say no. And that is very debatable.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Oct 5, 2011 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I would love to get your opinion on this.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Oct 5, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm debatable?
I don’t know but when I first heard he moved to D# I was pretty upset for some reason.
Ummm.... well
Margate made good points that these “counter arguments” do not counter sufficiently.
Its a shame these forums have too many "cheerleaders" and people who get most of their LOL "football knowledge" from the talking heads in the media, and not from individual study. How I wish there were more people with actual football acumen that can forward the conversation and advance the sport...
yes he made some very good points, like pertaining to replacing Dawk … There is no replacing Dawk, he was a leader (something this defense direly lacks), a feared force on the field, and a great tackler.
As far as Vandervelde, Marsh, and Matthews being bad picks… i would disagree with that too … Admittingly, I dont know much about Vandervelde, just that he didnt make this squad of scrubs … but Marsh was lost in a sea of talent between the 3 probowlers we have in our secondary; and matthews … very disappointing… but he was successful in college, like his brother, and his father was good too .. there was really no forseeing how bad he would actually turn out to be.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Oct 5, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
In reply to your thoughtful and respectful reply
1. Did Reid have a choice . . . . He’s king of the Eagles’ football kingdom. So, yes, he had a choice in terms of his selection of Juan.
And, yes, he had his choice in the selection of Washburn. And if he was going w/ Washburn, then he needed to make — with such an unorthodox standard front — that he had (1) a D.C. who could call plays on the run (as Daryl Tapp says) and the talent at LB.
2. I don’t know if Castillo is or is not a Wide-9 guy. That’s my point. We’ll never know. But I don’t remember Juan ever saying to anyone ever, even after his hiring, “the Wide-9 is the best D-line front in NFL history.”
Moreover, while the Eagles’ sack numbers are up, so are their YPA, YPG, and — needless to say — yards rushing. Plus, INTs are down.
So far, I’m not a believer based on the numbers. I hope that changes.
3. Watkins was projected to be a good guard. Super. The key word is “projected.” As in, “if we have an off-season, he’ll project well at guard.”
But you ignore the point that he’s inexperienced in American Football. And inexperienced at guard. And this was a lock-out year with a new O-line coach with unusual techniques.
4. Defense wins games — nice, sardonic reply. Okay, defense stops other teams from winning. Which means you win. So that means, defense wins games.
And if the Eagles were playing McDermott defense, they’d be 3-1 or 4-0.
5. Howie’s a genius at personnel.
My point is his drafting has been disappointing. At best. Not interested in the “but injuries can’t be predicted.” Graham and Allen were mediocre last year before their injuries. The rest of last year’s crop is terrible. Same this year.
He trumpets how great the Eagles are because they accumulate late round picks for late round talent.
That’s great for special teams. Unfortunately, those are our starters.
As for bringing proven PB players, Nnamdi’s agent called Roseman to get the deal done — not the other way around.
As for Babin, if your boy Roseman was such a great personnel guy, he’d have never let Babin leave. My god, the Eagles could have kept him for 1/3 of what they’re paying him now.
But it’ll take a couple more years for Howie to make his bones.
When he has 2 or 3 drafts like the Packers have had, I’ll call him a good personnel guy.
yea i here that the one thing i question what you say is washburn was hired 2 weeks before juan and were doing the wide 9 which is washburns, so my question is what about this defense is actually Juans? I swear Juan i just there because Washburn didn’t want to deal with being the coordinator so they made Juan the guy that enforces whatever Washburn wants. If I can make a analogy to better make my point…..
Juan Castillo = George W. Bush and Washburn = Dick Cheney( the guy who actually ran the country for 8 years)
"Buddy doesn't have many rules but one of them is don't lose to the Cowboys."
agreed. Juan has no say over what the front line does. I’m sure he knew that going into the situation, but it’s pretty obvious now that the wide-9 isn’t working out with the linebacking/safety personnel on the team.
The Jruth shall be told.
You’ve been commenting on this site for about 2 months (what a coincidence after the Eagles have a huge offseason), and you contribute nothing of value and are repeatedly attacked by multiple veteran members of this website for your idiotic opinions.
It’s pretty obvious to me that you’re roughly 15 to 16 years of age and your testicles have yet to descend. Plus all of your attempted insults involve low-brow language and just poor attempts at humor.
The Jruth shall be told.
both of you fucking stop.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Dude, both of you fucking stop.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
you’re such a badass. Way to come in about 40 minutes later
The Jruth shall be told.
by packimop on Oct 5, 2011 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is the lamest internet fight I’ve ever seen. You might as well be throwing teletubby dolls at each other.
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LOL, good one.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I'm just saying it's fucking annoying.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
correct, and if juan doesn’t have the control or freedom to adjust the front line to better serve his line backers and secondary then what good is it being the defensive coordinator for this team!!! Juan has shit linebackers to work with and hes told were going to use a system relies on a strong linebackers!!! now if you get rid of the wide 9 formation which has been very very great for pressure then what good is it having washburn here in philly?
if they want this wide 9 to work we need to bring in someone else via free agency to help out, cause what we got aint it.
"Buddy doesn't have many rules but one of them is don't lose to the Cowboys."
Yes
Its coming out slowly, but its still coming out. Washburn has a lot of responsibility in this defense. Castillo is the fall guy
Its a shame these forums have too many "cheerleaders" and people who get most of their LOL "football knowledge" from the talking heads in the media, and not from individual study. How I wish there were more people with actual football acumen that can forward the conversation and advance the sport...
You cant run the wide 9 with weak lb's
thats all on washburn. The wide 9/wanabe bears zone defense experiment has failed. If washburn only knows how to run the wide 9 then he needs to go. Asap
by ZX2355 on Oct 5, 2011 3:54 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
It’s not his fault Andy gave him a job, knowing his system, and didn’t provide the right personnel. How can the people that hired Washburn not have any liability for failures due to Washburns decisions? Especially when you knew what you were getting ahead of time.
The Jruth shall be told.
Thats just not nice ...
and you are losing respect.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Oct 5, 2011 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Let me explain, This "packimop" been breaking my balls since day 1
But he don’t like when I return the favor.
It’s more like a lesson.
If you don’t agree with another persons opinion that’s fine
but you don’t disrespect a person because you can’t see eye to eye then that’s just plain wrong.
Everytime I post something here comes this clown to say something disrespectful. I was just giving it back.
As I recall ...
agreed. Juan has no say over what the front line does. I’m sure he knew that going into the situation, but it’s pretty obvious now that the wide-9 isn’t working out with the linebacking/safety personnel on the team.
was his post … and …
You don’t know jack retarded bastard now do us a favor and shut it!
was your reply …
Just calling it like I see it.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Oct 5, 2011 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
He is a very aggressive blogger, for sure. But to beat him, you must out wit him… thats kind of the code of blogging.
Respect is earned through intelligence, and lost with vulgarity, immaturity, and unsubstantiated statements.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Oct 5, 2011 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
like in today's post he talks about me being on here only 2 months
Yea he’s right because for 2 months whenever I comment on something he would respond out of the blue with something disrespectful. And today when I saw his name I thought that I’d give him his own medicine.
Let it go man...
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Oct 5, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Im not your big brother … but i am going home! peace out!
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Oct 5, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
eagles4lyfe.
Knock it off.
We get you don’t like Packimop for whatever reason, we understand you guys have beef or whatever. Stop ruining our comments and good time with your shit.
you’re the one trolling him, it’s very clear by this whole comment section. Just stop, ignore him if you have an issue and if you really have that big of an issue with him feel free to email Jason or Jimmy explaining the situation and they’ll look into it.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Are you suggesting we take ANOTHER person who excels at one thing and tell him to do something else? … Thats the problem we are having with Nnamdi playing zone.
The wide 9 is a successful front, and we are great at running it now. I blame Juan for not calling more LB blitzes to stop the run game, and for not letting our extremely talented secondary play man coverage like they are good at.
"Obviously, I lobbied for him to be here. But what a difference a year makes." -- Donovan McNabb
by thePurpleLion on Oct 5, 2011 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
you know what
blame Juan for not calling more LB blitzes
I’ll agree here. Especially when you had Coleman in the line up. They could have rolled over Samuel let Nmandi play man backside and brought a fire through the weak “b”. Still could have let the LB’s cover or even bring one of them. Now, this is not to say that Juan isn’t charged with dictating coverage only due to him unofficially just having control over the secondary and LB’s coverage aspects, but taking a shot every now and again wouldn’t hurt.
Its a shame these forums have too many "cheerleaders" and people who get most of their LOL "football knowledge" from the talking heads in the media, and not from individual study. How I wish there were more people with actual football acumen that can forward the conversation and advance the sport...
I'm sorry. Washburn brought the wide 9 which is the only thing we have going for us.
So why doesn’t everybody grow a fucking braincell and stop blaming the dude who’s actually earning his paycheck?
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I think...
…what they are saying is it is just as much part of the problem as it is part of the solution. The reason I was so big on going after a guy like Tulloch was you need a big, physical middle linebacker that can play sideline to sideline more than normal in this system. Hell, as down as I was on Bradley, it would’ve made sense to keep him for MLB in this type of system. At least when the OLs got to the second level, they wouldn’t be getting a guy that was completely overwhelmed strength-wise.
So, while the Wide 9s produces one of the most dominating pash rushes with 4 we’ve seen (on a team with no Reggie White and Jerome Brown), it also opens up some glaring deficiencies in the run defense. I think the main part of this was that we expected to get up big on people early with our offense, making the other team depend on the pass to get back in it. That has happened to some degree, but the turnovers keep putting the other team back in the game when they shouldn’t be. And I include 2 missed field goals against San Fran in my turnover total.
Why do people always think I'm playing the Race Card???
Is it because I'm black???
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