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Asante Samuel On Eagles: "Obviously They Don't Want Me"

Asante Samuel was a guest of 97.5 the Fanatic today and made it pretty clear that he didn't like the constant trade speculation around him this season. PFT had the transcript.

"Definitely, it doesn’t sit well with me," Samuel said.  "Definitely, I’ve been nothing but what they expected me to be when they brought me there... Definitely, it doesn’t sit well with me.  And obviously they don’t want me there, so life goes on.  So we’ll see where I’ll be at."

Asante said that people shouldn't expect his unhappiness to affect his play.

"Well, as long as I’m getting paid I’m gonna do my job," Samuel said.  "So whoever [is] cutting the check, I do my job. . . . So I’m not worried about that.  I just know in the back of my head they don’t want me there.  So, you know, that’s not gonna leave.  They put it out there so everybody could know that, so I know that and everybody knows that.  So it’s in the back of my head.  And Asante Samuel is a business entity first, so I’m going to make sure I handle my business accordingly."

Honestly, can anyone argue with anything he said? Yes it is obvious that they don't want him anymore unless you just think all the rumors before the season and before the trade deadline were just made up. And yes, he absolutely has been nothing but what they expected him to be when they brought him here.

It's just that "what he is" they don't want anymore. And frankly, I'd say the Eagles only have themselves to blame here. I think it's perfectly reasonable for Asante to be annoyed by the rumors and I think we can all agree that he's drawn the right conclusion about what the Eagles think of him. So if the Eagles didn't want him, they should have dealt him. They can't have thought they could shop him around the league all year and it wouldn't be reported. And they have to have expected him to be annoyed by the rumors...

So, do we think this could affect the way he plays? He is getting paid very well for this season and since "Asante Samuel is a business entity first" you'd expect him to play hard. He is kind of a guy who has always done his own thing, so as long as he's on the field I think he'll go on playing his game as usual.

By the way, a funny thing happened when I went to find a photo for this story. We have this little tool that we can input a name and will bring back all the AP photographs related to that name. So I search Asante Samuel and the follow three pictures were on the first page. They're after the jump... and they're not great advertisements for Asante this season.

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Sean Lee and a late round pick and you’ve got a deal.

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by AnthroEagle on Oct 22, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sean Lee??

He picked off a few balls early on…has been getting beat like a rented mule of late. No thanks.

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by Qwest on Oct 22, 2011 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dunno, the guy is very talented.

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by JasonB on Oct 22, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...I'm not arguing he isn't an upgrade...

…to our MLB situation, but I want more back for a top 5 corner, even if he is on the wrong side of 30.

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by Qwest on Oct 22, 2011 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The thing is, no one is going to trade a good, young, cheap player for a good, expensive, older player.

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by JasonB on Oct 22, 2011 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Then keep him.

Which is just what the Eagles are doing. IF someone blew them away with a trade like the Raiders did for Palmer, they won’t trade Samuel.

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by Qwest on Oct 22, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

which Sean Lee are you watching?

there is so much incorrectness to that statement, I don’t know where to start.

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by KD Drummond on Oct 23, 2011 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yea he’s been nasty.

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Oct 23, 2011 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Per Pro Football Focus

Sean Lee has surrendered among the most completions into his coverage

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by Qwest on Oct 24, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

we know it well, and are thoroughly confused by their grading of him

and I’m not talking about the ‘blow smoke’ contingent… critically thinking fans.

Watching the games, you can see several plays that PFF would eventually (assuming, can’t see their play-by-play metrics) consider a pass to be in Lee’s zone, but there was absolutely nothing he’d be able to do to prevent the pass and still follow the rules of the defense.

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by KD Drummond on Oct 24, 2011 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well...

…that’s like arguing that the grade on our linebackers against the run should be better because the Wide 9 scheme puts more pressure on their gap assignments. Or arguing that Demarcus Ware would be a great 4-3 defensive end because of the way he rushes the passer in a 3-4. While the arguments may have some merit, they are unfair to make. And unfair or not, the grade is the grade regardless.

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by Qwest on Oct 24, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, it's not arguing that

that’s what you would like me to be saying, but it’s not.

I’m saying that there is visual evidence that in this instance, fault is being assigned to Sean Lee because he is the closest defender. I didn’t make any additional comments about their grading system, or use a fictitious example such as Ware in a 4-3.

Making those comparisons is not a good argument, you are changing the dynamics of what is being discussed. We are talking about zone pass coverage abilities of a single linebacker. Passes into a zone have to be attributed to the closest defender, and that is always Sean Lee with the Cowboys underneath coverage.

If you had said, Foiku isn’t as bad as his grade suggests, because the responsibilities of the Eagles D automatically make him the defender closest to the ball in a pursuit-and-close role, then that would be like what I am saying.

Run defense is a completely different ball of wax.

PFF has one person track each game and decide who gets credit, or blame, for each play. It’s still subjective. At the end of the day, it is one person’s opinion, within the constraints of their criteria, that is assigning that grade. Overall, they do a great job. Sometimes, they are off.

Ask any of your compatriots how they feel about DeSean Jackson’s PFF grades. I love PFF, use them all the time in my articles. I just don’t agree with this assessment because I’ve watched the games and seen what they (I think) would see when they have to place responsibility on a player.

And really, your original comment that he’s been getting beat like a rented mule as of late, you probably haven’t even really been watching him. Instead of calling out specific examples, you relied on PFF’s assessments. Without doing research, can you honestly list me plays where this ‘beating’ took place?

Probably not.

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by KD Drummond on Oct 24, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sigh...

I was clearly talking about the merits of a discussion…not the specifics and thought that you, as a critical thinking fan, could understand the correlation between the two.

As for me “relying on PFF’s assessments”, it’s a poor assumption to say I probably haven’t even really been watching him. But it’s okay…I’m used to people assuming. With my best friend being a Cowboys’ fan, I’ve actually seen as much of your team as I have of mine. Now, to be fair to him, he is the kind of Cowboys’ fan that can make an honest, unbiased assessment of his team and players…otherwise called “The 1% of Cowboys fans.”. I’ll ASSUME you are in the 99% since you assumed I haven’t watched Sean Lee play.

Now, if you actually knew anything about me instead of formulating your opinion based off of one statement you have read of mine that you happen to agree with, you would know that I rarely use stats as the primary basis of my argument. I may use stats to reinforce my opinion, but they hardly ever are the reason I feel the way I do. As a person who used to tell my boss “Give me the numbers and tell me the picture you want to paint.”, I know that statistics can be manipulated. And that in and of itself is not a condemnation of PFF or any other statistics-based site. It’s just a fact.

Now, if you are going to argue the subjectivity of statistics, why are you even having a discussion with me about the basis of my opinion? After all, I’m sure you would agree that relative to opinions, statistics might as well be FACT when it comes to subjectivity. Two people can look at the same play at the same time from the same angle and take completely different things from it. That is why opinions are important to a discussion. However, statistics don’t lie, they are just reflections of the person who is using them. For instance…one person will look at a game and see that Team A had a lower Time of Possession than Team B and hypothesize that Team B was the winner. However, that doesn’t take into account that Team A could have had big plays all game for TD’s while Team B pounded it out on the ground for first downs but settled for field goals.

The main part of my discussion is when you make an assumption, you make an ass out of u and umption.

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by Qwest on Oct 24, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude, you're talking garbage now

and are being disingenuous.

Your quote that started this discussion…

Sean Lee??

He picked off a few balls early on…has been getting beat like a rented mule of late. No thanks.

Yet, Sean Lee had an interception the Sunday prior to this article and your comment being written.

Then, I said that there is blatant incorrectness in that statement and YOUR CHOSEN RESPONSE was that PFF said that he has been struggling. That was your choice, not mine. You could have responded with ‘Lee was beaten in ’X’ game here, he diagnosed ‘Y’ play horribly’. But you didn’t. And it should be easy, right? I mean, you watch all the games, right?

And again, I challenged you to provide evidence that Lee is a coverage liability, and you completely walk around that core, basic point to say “you don’t know me”.

Following that, you continue to talk about the subjectivity of statistics, when the point is, we aren’t talking about statistics!!!!

We are talking about an observers (PFF) OPINION of what happened in the game. Those aren’t stats, those are game grades!

But, carry on with your uber-original breakdown of the word assumption. I’ll stay over here with logic and reason.

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by KD Drummond on Oct 24, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1000

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by codydoser on Oct 24, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1 ball hanger

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by Qwest on Oct 24, 2011 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mature.

Forbid someone else disagree with you, and notice you avoiding answering his questions.

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by codydoser on Oct 25, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope...

…I just notice the correlation between Cowboys fans and roaches. If you see one, there’s likely thousands of the lurking that you don’t see.

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by Qwest on Oct 26, 2011 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Once again...

Mature… How about you spout all the other Cowboys fan stereotype you have in your repertoire?

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by codydoser on Oct 26, 2011 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay...

…so he had an interception the Sunday prior to this article. What does that have to do with him being beaten. If a guy gets beaten 10 times and gets one interception, is he a good coverage guy? And stating that I watch the game of a team who not only am I not a fan of, but my most hated team in all of sports, and you expect me to give you a breakdown? Sorry, I only care about one team that much, and it damn sure at the Cowboys.

And again, I don’t need to provide any evidence of anything to you. AGAIN, I watch your games for entertainment…I watch my team carefully scrutinizing individual and team performances. That shouldn’t be such a hard thing to fathom as I’d bet it is the same thing for you when you see an Eagles’ game. And I didn’t say “you don’t know me”, what I DID say was that you made an assumption that was incorrect. Now, if you would like to say that I was inferring that you don’t know me, you would be closer…however, you still would be incorrect…just a little less than before.

As for the rest, didn’t PFF take their OBSERVATION and translate that to a statistic? Isn’t that exactly what many statistics come from in sports? Balls and strikes in baseball. “Power Punches” in boxing. First serve percentage in tennis. And yes, passes completed in his zone in football. Which further illustrates the reason I made the comparison to the Eagles run defense in the previous post. Let me draw the correlation since it obviously went over your head.

You stated:
“…absolutely nothing he’d be able to do to prevent the pass and still follow the rules of the defense.”

My comparison to the Eagles run defense:
The Wide 9 scheme exposes the linebackers to offensive linemen on the second level and causes increased gap responsibility. In other words, the linebackers that play behind the Wide 9 scheme are responsible for more area and are blocked by more effective blockers than in a traditional scheme. Basically, when there are two gaps and an offensive lineman (not a fullback) in front of a running back and the defensive ends are 4 yards behind the play, there is absolutely nothing Jamar Chaney can do to prevent a big run and still follow the rules of the defense.

Besides, your assertion that “there is nothing he’d be able to do” makes the assumption that he is not supposed to be deeper, or wider, or more shallow, or in tighter man coverage than he is. You are basically saying that all the times he has been beaten in the middle, he has been exactly where he should be. Sorry if I choose the albeit opinionated view of someone that watches games with the intent of grading players over someone who watches the games, probably mostly drunk, to cheer on his team.

Now, let’s break down your analysis of Sean Lee.

You stated here, that Rex Grossman threw the ball “directly to Sean Lee.”

Here,towards the end of last season, you stated about Sean Lee “The quicker our organization admits to itself they can’t be relied upon to be on the field when needed, the better off this team will be.” Does your logic and reason now say that he is a great MLB after what, 6 games this season?

Here, you talk about how Sean Lee is injury prone and shouldn’t be counted on, like the Cowboys are doing.

Now, obviously you know more about Sean Lee than I do. I will concede that. At least, as a fan of the team and blogger of the team, I would hope so. However, don’t think for a second that you know more about Asante than I do. And my response was in reference to a post someone made about trading him and a pick for Asante. What I do know about Asante is he is a top 5 NFL cornerback. And unless you are trading him for a top 5 linebacker, I say I don’t want it. You want to argue Sean Lee is a top 5 MLB and I’ll end the conversation right there.

P.S. You talk to me about not watching the game, while you scoff at an Eagles fan who gets on you for talking about Mike Vick’s play. He stated, “clearly you didn’t watch the game” because only one of Mike Vick’s four interceptions were his fault. This is a case where statistically you were right, but in using that stat line instead of the eye-test, weren’t you being of the “blow smoke contingent”?

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by Qwest on Oct 24, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL @ you now admitting you don't watch the game close enough to make that ridiculous assessment

and then ramble on clutching at straws to try and again, circumvent the fact that you really don’t know what the hell you are talking about.

Re: PFF- Maybe you didn’t take a statistics class in college or something. But just because you assign a numerical value to something does not make it a statistic. It makes it a number.

And then playing semantics? You don’t see how badly you are losing your argument?

And then you cherry-pick my arguments to try and defend your position?

Your debate skills are severely lacking, my dude. I guess that flies here amongst Eagles fans.
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You stated here, that Rex Grossman threw the ball "directly to Sean Lee."

I guess in your bizarro-universe, that supports your argument… if saying that a QB throwing the ball to a defender somehow reflects poorly on a defender. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.

Here,towards the end of last season, you stated about Sean Lee "The quicker our organization admits to itself they can’t be relied upon to be on the field when needed, the better off this team will be."

OK, now explain to me how saying, in December of last year, that Lee couldn’t stay healthy (remember, he dropped in the draft due to injury and suffered two injury set backs last season) has anything to do with evaluating his play this season… Don’t worry, I’ll wait.

Next quote, same thing. You are cherry picking from FREAKING DECEMBER 2010!

Why didn’t you link to this complete article on Lee? Where I did a play by play breakdown of EVERY SINGLE PLAY THAT LEE WAS INVOLVED IN?

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2011/9/14/2422086/dallas-cowboys-sean-lee-breakout-performance-play-by-play-analysis

You’ve lost man, walk away with some pride.
Come back in a week and re-read the BS that you are spewing around the fact that you got called out for being incorrect and your feelings are hurt.

You claimed that Lee made some interceptions “early” as in, not recently. Yet, in his recent game (to this convo) he had a pick. You clearly, were wrong. What does your novella change about you being wrong?

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by KD Drummond on Oct 24, 2011 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, love the hypocrisy where

you’re saying that you’ll take PFF’s grading over ‘some fan’, as if I don’t cover the team.

But you’ll assert that Asante is.. how did you put it?

What I do know about Asante is he is a top 5 NFL cornerback.

That’s right. PFF graded him the 25th best cornerback in 2010. He’s currently the 48th best this year.

Now, explain to me again all the BS you just tried to get away with?

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by KD Drummond on Oct 24, 2011 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice...

…so you use PFF to assert that Asante Samuel isn’t one of the NFL’s top 5 cornerbacks meanwhile getting on me for using PFF to assert that Sean Lee isn’t playing is well as claimed.

SMH.

Next, you being a completely TYPICAL (and I mean that in the worst sense of the word) Cowboys fan will probably post about how many Superbowl’s you’ve won.

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by Qwest on Oct 24, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL, we don't believe you, you need more people

See, if I say that you are being a hypocrite for saying my opinion shouldn’t be trusted over PFF, you don’t get to say that your opinion should be trusted over PFF.

You really don’t get that?

Quit clowning yourself my man.

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by KD Drummond on Oct 24, 2011 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm clowning myself?

Even if I was clowning myself, it would be clowning myself on a Philadelphia Eagles blog. You see, I have no reason to go to BTB. Just as you explained in one of your posts about Eagles fans being over there…you asked why they were there. Now look…here you are on BGN. The ULTIMATE hypocrite.

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by Qwest on Oct 26, 2011 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you really not see the contradiction in your comment?
You see, I have no reason to go to BTB.

AND!

Just as you explained in one of your posts about Eagles fans being over there…

All KD is pointing out is that you refuse to stick to the basis of the discussion/argument…And the comment above is only further proof of that.

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by codydoser on Oct 26, 2011 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow...

…nice try. But I got that post by looking at his comments, not going to BTB. Like I said before, I have ZERO reason to be over there. It’s not entertaining to watch a bunch of bumbling idiots try to outdumb one another…except on Jerry Springer. I prefer healthy debate…and to get that, you need actual thought and people who’s opinions differ somewhat from your own. I know about two Cowboys fans that are able to actually call it like they see it…and that count didn’t increase when either one of you come into my BGN world…trolling, as KD would call it.

So scurry your simple little one star minds back over with the rest of the Borg Collective…we actually think over here.

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by Qwest on Oct 27, 2011 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

As well as you calling out KD for being a hypocrite, while admitting to be one without even realizing so… Wouldn’t that be the “ULTIMATE hypocrite?”

 In case you find it insulting, its just a question, and a fair one since it is supported by facts.

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by codydoser on Oct 26, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is what I mean.

Say if I say Ultimate hypocrite, I couldn’t be comparing him to someone else that is a hypocrite? I have to be including myself as a hypocrite and calling him a bigger one? So sad. Just so you know, the train of thought should go Think, Type, Think, Post. You miss a lot when you go just Type, Post like you do.

You’re dismissed.

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by Qwest on Oct 27, 2011 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have made no comments about the Cowboys as a team or what I think/feel of them.

But you can go ahead and try to peg me as one of those fans you’re talking about, you obviously spew nonsense. Kd and myself are both not trolling, simply stating our differing opinion, and for whatever reason you made it personal. And your comment above, makes no sense. So “dismissing me,” really has no merit. Just because you don’t like what I have to say, doesn’t mean what I’m saying is wrong. Grow up.

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by codydoser on Oct 29, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Don’t like what you had to say? The first interaction I had with you AT ALL, all you said was “+1000”. At least KD came in and spouted an actual opinion…something that actually can be debated. All you did was come in and ride on his nuts…which you obviously took exception to me pointing out.

Look kid, I don’t need to peg you as anything. KD and I were talking…stay at the kiddie table as you have nothing to add to the debate. KD has a differing opinion…you haven’t offered one. You haven’t said Jack Schitt about football in any of your posts to me. You might not have noticed, but this is a football blog and the conversation between KD and myself was about football. I don’t know ANYONE on here personally, much less you two, so why do you think it’s personal?

And lastly, what you will notice, again at the heart of the football discussion, is that KD and I have differing opinions about the effectiveness of your MLB. Now, both of us only have opinions, which are highly subjective, therefor neither of us can truthfully be described wrong. That leaves you…with NO differing opinion offering NO value to the FOOTBALL conversation.

THAT is why you are dismissed.

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by Qwest on Oct 30, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

That is one busy signature!


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:)

I’m one busy guy haha

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by KD Drummond on Oct 23, 2011 7:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

It sucks, because I really like Asante and he’s a great CB, it certainly seems like he doesn’t fit the new scheme. Hopefully the rest of the season goes as smoothly as possible and we can deal him in the offseason. Its too bad though, he’s definitely one of my favorite Eagles.

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by AnthroEagle on Oct 22, 2011 5:02 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I hate they way they are dealing with this. They should have waited until the end of the season to shop him around. At least he’s handling this well.

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by Clint Eastwood on Oct 22, 2011 5:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Of if you’re going to shop you, you have to be prepared to make a deal.

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by JasonB on Oct 22, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do we know what the offers were, if there were any?

I haven’t heard anything…

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by Ralf E Chubbs on Oct 22, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, there’s been no reports whatsoever.

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by JasonB on Oct 22, 2011 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is what makes me wonder if it was the Eagles shopping him or the Eagles just telling people they would listen to offers.

by Ben16 on Oct 22, 2011 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's the same thing dude

If you’re shopping someone OF COURSE you’re prepared to make a deal.

Otherwise, the only thing you’re doing is pissing off the player and wasting everyone’s time.

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by Ralf E Chubbs on Oct 22, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

No it is not the same thing. They could be actively shopping him as in they are making the calls, or they could have been sitting there just listen to teams make them offers. Two very different things.

by Ben16 on Oct 22, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why do that?

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by Ralf E Chubbs on Oct 22, 2011 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why not? If a team comes and blows you away with an offer, you make the trade.

by Ben16 on Oct 22, 2011 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Patrick Willis for AS and a second rounder according to that douche on twitter.

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Oct 22, 2011 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is no way that's accurate.

It would be stupid on the Niners part and even the Eagles would recognize the value in acquiring Willis.

Clear eyes, full bologna sandwiches!

by NOLACuse on Oct 24, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Asante hasn't had a great season

But that’s a tribute more to the scheme. For as little as he played last year he arguably had one of his best seasons.

We know what Asante is, a big gambler play making CB who gonna miss tackles like anorexics miss meals.

I’m no expert but I’m thinking the scheme is leading to his downfall.

Sucks this is happening to my favorite player on the squad.

2010-2011 is a great year for sneaker heads.

by Young Eagle on Oct 22, 2011 5:11 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Why do i see this as him being a huge headache at pactice and the FO trying to collar their dog

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by NorthPhillyKid on Oct 22, 2011 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jason
Yes it is obvious that they don’t want him anymore…

That’s unfair and untrue. We have someone to step up and take his place if we trade him in DRC, and the only reason we’d trade him is to acquire a LB and/or more Draft Picks.

It’s not that we don’t want him. He’s quite obviously a good CB. Jarrad Page we don’t want.

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by Ralf E Chubbs on Oct 22, 2011 5:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Whatever the reason is, if they’re shopping every chance they get… They don’t want him.

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by JasonB on Oct 22, 2011 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope you understand what I'm saying.

It’s not that they don’t want him.

He’s an asset. He’s a good player. He’s a valuable commodity that, when traded, can get something significant in return.

He might not fit our scheme anymore; maybe he makes too much money, or hasn’t played well [enough] this season… Whatever.

I get what you’re saying but I don’t think it’s very accurate.

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by Ralf E Chubbs on Oct 22, 2011 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. Of course they want him on the team for his playmaking abilities and defense, but he will be making too much money next year and they have a nice surplus of good corners so he is expendable, that is all. Nothing really to do with him. He is being a little over-sensitive about it if you ask me. But, I understand why.

by PhilsForever on Oct 22, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

I don’t think he’s being overly sensitive, merely honest. I’d feel the same way if I were in his shoes.

But of course we want him. Football is a business and if we can trade him to better our situation than we will.

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by Ralf E Chubbs on Oct 22, 2011 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our media don't give a dam

They just want a story,they could care less about team unity,samuel should know this,teams should listen to trade offers ,or local media has a few …are from diffrent citys and like stir up crap.

by Mrrc7 on Oct 22, 2011 6:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't see what the media has to do with this

He said it on the radio, no one prompted him.

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by Ralf E Chubbs on Oct 22, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I think it’s just a question of semantics. Maybe saying they “don’t want him” feels like an overly negative connotation, but either way I think the end meaning is the same.

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by JasonB on Oct 22, 2011 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even I would agree that the FO has made it pretty clear

they don’t want him past this season. And I’m not exactly quick to criticize.

I think they’ve played it right though. Keep him this season, find your third fourth and fifth corners, and let Asante move on. He’s great at what he is, but the third highly-paid corner is apparently a luxury.

Now if he plays a huge role in the final 10 games and they end up winning the Super Bowl, maybe reconsider. But the money and production don’t add up. The three corners is a dream … hopefully we use it to its potential the rest of the way.

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by D3Keith on Oct 23, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah page sucks asante has fit the team very well I dont think if winning now is the option trading asante would be smart maybe if we kept mcdermott as a DC with these talente we be way better

by eaglesfan_23 on Oct 23, 2011 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Asante is getting on my nerves. What can we expect in exchange for him after the season? My guess is a third.Then we’ll have Nnamdi at RCB, DRC at LCB and Hanson in the nickel and the secondary will be better. Asante looks even more disinterested in contact than usual this year. I’m highly annoyed with his diva attitude and selfishness.


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by d-jackfan10 on Oct 22, 2011 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

If he makes the PB again this year

I could see him bringing a 2. Maybe a conditional 2/3.

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by DSmith215 on Oct 22, 2011 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unless we trade him to the Raiders

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by Ralf E Chubbs on Oct 22, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

For picks in 2021 maybe.

Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.

That is all.

by EREX21 on Oct 22, 2011 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, a big contract that’s actually going up in value for a player that’s over 30 is generally not a desired quantity.

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by JasonB on Oct 22, 2011 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point.

Forgot about his contract #s.

My bad.

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by DSmith215 on Oct 22, 2011 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

diva attitude and selfishness

How so? We knew thats how it was when we got him. Yet we still took it.

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by Udalango on Oct 22, 2011 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

I think overall his tackling has been much better this year than last year.

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by FlyEagles15 on Oct 22, 2011 6:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Asante looks even more disinterested in contact than usual this year.

This whole defense looks disinterested in contact.

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by macjack09 on Oct 22, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTH he has 18 tackles this season and he had that fail one on the gore TD but his tackling has not cost us games

by eaglesfan_23 on Oct 23, 2011 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I haven’t seen many things more frustrating this year than Asante standing 2 feet away from the ball carrier, and hoping that the guy who has made contact actually finishes the tackle. And it has happened several times already. That’s when I think players like this should not go anywhere near a football field.

by hungarian_eagle on Oct 23, 2011 4:58 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He’s one of the best corners in football and you don’t want him near the field? That doesn’t make sense.

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by Ed Van Chimp on Oct 23, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmmm

I don’t see a diva attitude or selfishness. The guy is just answering questions how he is feeling. His play does not seem to be effected greatly by it. Also, give me a break that it is obvious the secondary would be better without asante samuel. Three all-pro corners is better than 2…period.

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His play isn’t affected by his attitude? Have you watched him at all this year?


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by d-jackfan10 on Oct 22, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's definitely more of a scheme thing

Our new system “doesn’t put him in a good position to succeed”

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by howard is better than pujols on Oct 22, 2011 8:19 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

So what do we do?

Do we pick the scheme that works for a player, or pick players that fit in the scheme?

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by El Donkerino on Oct 22, 2011 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking a little of both

The thing is that he was already here then we got Dr.C and nnamdi and Juan changed the scheme up so it was just a bad situation for him

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by howard is better than pujols on Oct 22, 2011 8:25 PM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

So him not trying to tackle people before they get into the endzone is a scheme thing? He’s made no effort at all on multiple plays. I’m sick of it.

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by packimop on Oct 22, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously nobody else wants him either

Due to the fact that we still have him.

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by Dunta Is A PUNK on Oct 22, 2011 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

I doubt that

The Eagles just want him more right now. They probably needed to be blown away by an offer to even consider trading him this season. My guess is not enough was ever brought to the table.

by PhilsForever on Oct 22, 2011 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Trade deadline is past, the Eagles CAN’T trade him this season. This offseason however, he’s gone. I will bet my life he isn’t in an Eagles uniform next year. MY LIFE. He won’t be back. 100% guaranteed. Stone cold lock. Wrap it up, send it out and don’t look back.


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by d-jackfan10 on Oct 22, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

This offseason however, he’s gone. I will bet my life he isn’t in an Eagles uniform next year. MY LIFE. He won’t be back. 100% guaranteed. Stone cold lock. Wrap it up, send it out and don’t look back.

You must be some sort of wizard. I havent heard ANYONE else say that theres a good chance Asantes gone after this season.

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by Kevin M. on Oct 22, 2011 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also think he is gone after this season. Draft day trade. We’ll trade out of the first round and then trade Asante for two fourths and a sixth in next year . Or maybe a third .

by Saidrick on Oct 22, 2011 5:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You see all the people arguing for keeping Asante? Yeah, clearly I’m just going with the crowd.


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by d-jackfan10 on Oct 23, 2011 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Theres a difference between

arguing for keeping him and what you are saying. Totally different. That isnt obvious?

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by Udalango on Oct 23, 2011 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey but do u REALLY think we’re gunna trade him?

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by FlyEagles15 on Oct 22, 2011 6:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I'll hold you to that

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by Ralf E Chubbs on Oct 22, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. He won’t be here next year.

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by JasonB on Oct 22, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's kinda obvious

No need to bet your life on something that is so obvious, lol.

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by Eagladelphia on Oct 22, 2011 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never said he would be back next year. If you noticed I used the past tense to reflect my opinions on why he WAS NOT traded this year. I also feel with the money he is making he probably will not be back next year.

by PhilsForever on Oct 25, 2011 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

They were shopping him

Let’s be honest, the reports weren’t that teams were calling about Asante… the reports were that they were shopping him. Teams can call about anyone they want. That’s not what this was.

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by JasonB on Oct 22, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's just business

but the Eagles should show their star players a little more love. It does make sense to shop Asante though, just because of the way everything shook down. He’s a professional, so like he said, he’ll still play as long as he’s getting a paycheck. We should just play to his strengths, which our defense is pretty nicely suited to. Put Nnamdi in man on the #1, with DRC and Asante on the other side deciding between them how they want to handle the receiver(s). DRC can cover over top while Asante eyes the pick. Or they can each take a guy on 3WR sets.

I guess what I’m saying is the guy has been a pick machine, so rather than treating him like an interchangeable cog that we’re done with, why not use the guys we acquired to support the strengths in his game to make him a beast in his last year and get us a higher value trade out of him next year (and him a better contract as a result).

?

by smeagle on Oct 22, 2011 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I mean....what else is he besides right

The Eagles made it clear when they listened to offers in the beginning of the season and during the trade deadline that he was not in their future.

I hate it when people take things like this and turn it into the player is being selfish. I mean what did he say that wasn’t true. And he did say he was going to continue to do his job. So, if you ask me, this is on the Eagles and the way they have handled the situation.

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by macjack09 on Oct 22, 2011 6:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Eh...

of course he’s right…of course he’s acting like a professional, but is “this on the Eagles”

I don’t even think “this” is a thing. Football’s a business, Asante’s being a professional, but trade rumors shouldn’t annoy a veteran player, that’s part of the gig.

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by jalarsen1 on Oct 23, 2011 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

WT.....

Were Just getting this stuff together

by Mrrc7 on Oct 22, 2011 6:50 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

That’s a real possibility. I could see him being released.

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by JasonB on Oct 22, 2011 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats a shame. At the beginning of the season after we got Nnamdi and there was speculation he’d be traded, I was really worried and hoped we wouldn’t do that, but at this point I really can’t say I feel that way anymore. I think DRC is virtually the same type of corner Asante is only faster, and he demands a lot less money, at least at this point. He’s also a hell of a lot younger. Sorry Asante, but I can’t say I’m with you anymore.

Coleman, ya proved me wrong.

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Well, Asante is a better player than DRC.

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by JasonB on Oct 22, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll trade you a 6th round pick just to keep him in Philly

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by Rorschach44 on Oct 22, 2011 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh please, Eli would love to see him out of the division. He’s been picked off by Asante more than any other player in the NFL.

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by JasonB on Oct 22, 2011 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

“I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’

by JimmyK on Oct 22, 2011 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

My response

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by KeepSwinging on Oct 23, 2011 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

he is worthless now

Older, can’t cover man to man, every receiver in the league knows to use the double move on him. Washed up.

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by EagleDomiNation on Oct 22, 2011 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Please

2010-2011 is a great year for sneaker heads.

by Young Eagle on Oct 22, 2011 8:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

*shrug*

Its a business.

While Asante had a good year last year, I’ve wondered if he had some of the Nnamdi syndrome going on. Patterson was victimized frequently, so Asante didn’t get targeted a lot anyway.

We have 3 pro-bowl calibre corners. 2 play man press well and not so much with the zone. 1 plays zone, and not so much with the press and is vulnerable to man-coverage double moves.

Its pretty easy to see that Samuel has value, it will never be higher than it is now. He’s odd man out.

To answer the question of if it’ll effect his play? Put yourself in his shoes. Are you going t2o make a solid tackle on a 230 lbs running back coming at you for a team you think doesn’t want you?

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by corn on the kolb on Oct 22, 2011 7:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Are you going t2o make a solid tackle on a 230 lbs running back coming at you for a team you think doesn’t want you?

Well to be honest, do you really expect your 185 lb CB to actually be able to make a tackle on a 230 lb running back coming right at him?

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by macjack09 on Oct 22, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well to be honest, do you really expect your 185 lb CB to actually be able to make a tackle on a 230 lb running back coming right at him?

I can think of over 9 Million Three Hundred Thirty Thousand reasons why I expect him to make that tackle.

by captain nodar on Oct 22, 2011 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

nicely played

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by jalarsen1 on Oct 23, 2011 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well , he could at least

geta good grab and hang on till help arrives.But he aint even doing that right now.

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by JJeaglerooter on Oct 22, 2011 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

WT.....

Were Just getting this stuff together

by Mrrc7 on Oct 22, 2011 7:37 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

i dont think it has to do with him

Just his contract. We have a lot of people to lock up next year. Mccoy, maclin, Jackson off the top of my head

by eagsfanMBG22 on Oct 22, 2011 7:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

get real ... seriously

How can Yall talk negative about asantes play and his cost when nnamdi is the one burning our money and is also on the wrong side of 30. Do you not see nnamdi out there missing tackles and getting burnt. If anything nnamdi is the waste. Wasn’t not fitting the scheme is terrible due to the fact that our scheme is terrible in the first place. I rather have asante than nnanmdi right now. At least asante got the.d hype. Shit. Nnamdi is the biggest waste of money I’ve seen in a long time

by phillyisback on Oct 22, 2011 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

You’re stupid. Nnamdi made three consecutive tackles on a three and out against the Bills three weeks ago. Asante hasn’t made three tackles all season.

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Oct 22, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man don't even dignify this guy with a response

He’s clearly beyond help. He’s another one of those guys who has totally unrealistic expectations for players.

by P_Roach17 on Oct 22, 2011 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you retarded by any chance?

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by Djax10 on Oct 23, 2011 8:55 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

No, it isn't obvious

I haven’t heard any proof. Just rumors. They want him. He’s there.

by 999 on Oct 22, 2011 8:47 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Asante is starting to look like Lito Sheppard. The writing is on the proverbial wall. He’s now a free safety who can’t tackle.

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by EagleDomiNation on Oct 22, 2011 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

They're not gonna get much for him now

they should’ve traded him for something upto the trade deadline… they’re probably gonna end up giving him away because they’re most likely not going to bring him back next year at his salary when they have Cromartie ready to step in. Asante is a punk and will always be a punk !

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by Eagladelphia on Oct 22, 2011 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Everybody's bashing his play right now

He was unquestionably a top 5 CB last year. It’s not like his play dropped off a cliff; he’s still a very good CB, he just doesn’t fit this scheme anymore. That, and his contract, are why he’s being shopped. Not because he’s a shitty CB, because he isn’t.

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by AnthroEagle on Oct 22, 2011 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Everybody knows the Eagles are trying to shop him, and they still can’t get anything of value for him, that has to say something…

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by Eagladelphia on Oct 22, 2011 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

You know they could've had offers and just set the bar too high

It doesn’t mean they didn’t get an offer of any value, it just means they didn’t get an offer that met their requirements which for all we know could be a 1st and an LB

by P_Roach17 on Oct 22, 2011 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know what you're saying

but whatever value they might have gotten for him now (although not upto their standards), will be even less after this year.

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by Eagladelphia on Oct 22, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh undoubtedly

Im just saying that our perceived value of AS may be lower than what their’s is, and that their overvaluing of AS might be what led to him staying and not the lack of a good offer

by P_Roach17 on Oct 22, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be dumb if they couldn't gauge his value

especially for wonder kid Howie Roseman.

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by Eagladelphia on Oct 22, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Should have traded him after the Eagles acquired DRC in the Kolb deal. He’s obviously the odd man out with his style of play. Spending so much money at the corner position is not a good idea.

Is there going to be a cap hit for cutting him after the season? He’s not going to bring back anything worth the trouble.

I’m expecting to see him on the field less and less as the season goes on.

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Oct 22, 2011 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think anyone really wanted to trade AS at that point

Hindsight is 20/20 man. Looking back I wish we had done it, but I would be lying if I were to say that I wanted to trade him back in August. I don’t think anyone could have foreseen that Asante would be so out of place in our system

by P_Roach17 on Oct 22, 2011 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's a long season yet to go.

I think it will pay off to have the second best corner in the division still on our roster.
In addition to the best CB in the division.

Oh boy, is this great!

by MayIhave10,000marblesplease? on Oct 22, 2011 10:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

What’s his motivation to even play? He hasn’t been good at all this year and I’ve seen multiple times he could have at least attempted to stop someone from getting into the endzone and hasn’t.

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Oct 22, 2011 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

By week nine, his vagina will stop hurting and he’ll pick off a couple passes. Just let him play. He’s a good player.

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by MayIhave10,000marblesplease? on Oct 22, 2011 11:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He’s not even good, he’s fucking great. I just haven’t seen the effort since day one of the season. I really think he saw the writing on the wall when DRC and Nnamdi both came in. He obviously loves playing here otherwise he wouldn’t be so upset about potentially leaving. I just think it’s bumming him out that he’s most likely going to be moved/cut at the end of the year.

It sucks because I love the guy and he’s been our best corner since the day he arrived up until the moment Nnamdi was signed. You could tell that he wants to win just from his attitude in the locker room after last week. He legitimately cares about this organization and he’s sad that his time with the team has come to an end.

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Oct 23, 2011 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

samuel, what?

you’re gonna sit with a straight face and say your play hasn’t been affected by the damn gossip you’ve been hearing?? come on….how many balls have you picked off so far this season?? riiiiight….NONE. they bought more CBs because they saw even though you were working on how to wrap up a guy, you were still afraid to hit….then the minute someone affected your ego, you started hitting ( no better than my 12 yr old daughter, but ok) and completely forgot to be on the path to grabbing those picks……go somewhere you feel you’re appreciated, please, and leave us to find someone less fickle

by folmcb on Oct 22, 2011 11:54 PM EDT reply actions  

he does have a pick and it may be the best INT all season vs the falcons and then if the FO is so worried about tackling or was how can the bring DRC here he cant tackle anyone either and if nnamdi gets off the tackling thing with one hit on cooler really he miss more tackles than asante and not even to good players if you hate a player oh well but if you are a fan of the team at least get your facts right plus the corners don’t have more pick because the middle of the field is always wide open in the scheme we run so you can blame more of the drought on Castillo and andy than asante

by eaglesfan_23 on Oct 23, 2011 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

use punctuation please.

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Oct 23, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, I'm drunk right now

But fuck Asante Samuel.

I hope he’sreading this right now, too. Just fucking leave you piece of shit

by DLawrence55 on Oct 23, 2011 2:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Absolutely not, Asantes played like shit

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by Djax10 on Oct 23, 2011 8:58 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions  

No. Not this year

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by Ralf E Chubbs on Oct 23, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’d call them close to equal. First few games Asante was better, the past few Asante has struggled and Nnamdi has been great. It seems to fit the same timeline that Castillo stopped playing a lot of zone and moved to man coverage, at least to my eye.

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by AnthroEagle on Oct 23, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

It really isn’t even close in terms of effort. Nnamdi was being mishandled too, Asante just hasn’t cared.

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by packimop on Oct 23, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

this is what I thought

Asante was clearly outplaying Nnamdi weeks 1-3. Aso looked horrible out there. Last couple games Nnamdi is coming into his own and hasn’t looked out of place, but still doesn’t look “good” yet.

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by KD Drummond on Oct 23, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

let me clear this up

Asante is a superior cornerback in this league. He has a skill set many other corners don’t have. Now having said that, it is up to the DC to maximize his talents. It is also on Asante to adapt to playing closer on WR’s when needed. I’m glad he wasn’t traded, his presence is huge to opposing offenses. We need to compensate for his ball-hawking with Allen over top for the rest of the season, and Asante will rack up the picks. The organization will also be winners, they’ll assrape some team for a bunch of picks in the offseason in Asante’s eventual trade. Basically, its a win-win for all parties involved

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by EagleDomiNation on Oct 23, 2011 5:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully....

I think if he really wants to stay in Philly, he’ll renogotiate his contract for less money. He’s not stupid, he can adjust to the scheme if he really wants to.

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