Raiders Explored A Trade For Vince Young
by JasonB on Oct 18, 2011 10:50 AM EDT
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Al Davis' spirit lives on!!!!
RIP al you meant a lot to this game. But you late career decisions are the definition of comedy.
by VRFC8 on Oct 18, 2011 10:53 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
What a boneheaded move.
This ghost of Al Davis is still haunting the Raiders FO. Two first rounders for a washed up, has been? I’d trade Young, a better and younger QB for 1 first rounder, let alone two…not to mention the difference in salaries.
"You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity."
Also Young has been actually in an NFL program, practicing and working out.
And honestly, they wouldn’t have needed to give up a first for Young.
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Yeah, he’s a free-agent at the end of the year, and I suspect not a guy who wants to stay here and be Vick’s backup for years. They Eagles would be wise to take what they could get for him, in my opinion.
If the Raiders want Palmer because Jackson worked with him before, fine. But if they wanted Young and the Eagles tried to fleece them, I think that would be a mistake on the Eagles’ part.
Exactly
We would have let him go for a lot less.
Good on the Bengals for getting that much for a guy who doesn’t even play. Who knows how well he’s going to perform?
I’d say the Bengals are a team on the way up but I should hold my tongue when it comes to the Bengals… Mike Brown is bad Al Davis 2.0
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by Ralf E Chubbs on Oct 18, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I would HAPPILY ship
VY out of town for a 5th. Maybe even a 6th.
by The Reddgie on Oct 18, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
@ Ehmm look at our roster dude…. we START our 7th rounders and CUT our 3rd and 4th rounders….so…. Brilliant indeed@
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 18, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
DAMN YOU FONT!
Ehmm look at our roster dude…. we START our 7th rounders and CUT our 3rd and 4th rounders….so…. Brilliant indeed
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 18, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
I give up
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 18, 2011 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
@ really?@ really ? really?
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<blockquote> really?@ really ? really?@
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 18, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
lol this is fun
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 18, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
No
Because VY is a moron who doesn’t understand our offense, escapes from the pocket at the slightest hint of a pass rush and has a big fucking mouth that he runs like he has actually earned the right to do so. He brings no value to this team at all.
by The Reddgie on Oct 18, 2011 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yikes… The Raiders are without what, 1st-4th rounders next year?
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by JasonB on Oct 18, 2011 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Although they’ll probably get a decent comp pick for Asomugha. Maybe a 4th? Possibly a 3rd…
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The Raiders have decided that without Al Davis there is no point in drafting anymore so they’re getting rid of all their picks. They reportedly offered the Eagles their 1st, 5th and 6th rounders for VY.
They have also asked the league not to award them comp picks this year since they can’t be traded.
They reportedly offered the Eagles their 1st, 5th and 6th rounders for VY.
…wait, what?
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so when palmer gets hurt again since he is so out of shape, the price for VY will have gone up a bit.
Unless Palmer gets injured in the next hour and 58 minutes (and counting), it won't matter.
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I don’t think I’ve owned or seen a Raiders receiver owned in fantasy football since Randy Moss.
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You play in a league with 6 or less teams?
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by Ralf E Chubbs on Oct 18, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
@mortreport
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Carson Palmer is in Bay Area getting physical, expects to pass and then paperwork will be finalized to NFL
Its funny….. its a situation where both Palmer AND the Bungals were too stuborn or proud to budge…..and they both ended up winning lol
Raiders got the shaft……AGAIN!
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 18, 2011 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
damn it… someone take Vince young please…
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I don't know what he did to piss him off but
God just doesn’t seem to like Jason Campbell man…
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by w-w-JJ-d on Oct 18, 2011 11:23 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah I legitimately feel bad for him, his millions withstanding
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by Ralf E Chubbs on Oct 18, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I wonder
if Seattle, Washington, Miami, Indy or anyone is ready to give us a 2nd for Young “probowler” young now? Can Carson like fall on his way and break his knee so we can get 1 of those 1st rd picks and we will move all kinds around to get what we want :)
All those teams are pretty much toast though (except Skins). Why would they not just wait until next year, go through a draft and wait for FAs?
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 18, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
have a proven talent like Kolb instead of having a draft bust? Other than Luck, I haven’t heard about any other Quarterback in the draft.
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NO
There may be some you could groom but I just dont see anyone that is going to come right in and lead a team.
That could be true. But VY is a FA at the end of the season….. I guess a team could grab him now to ensure they get him, but …I dont know what his value will be at the end of the year.
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 18, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Raiders explored a trade for VY
until he played sunday
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by theaction on Oct 18, 2011 11:30 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
Young for Rolando McClain. Done deal.
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?
Are you just talking to the air here or is this a reality?
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 18, 2011 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions
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Just bc Oakland may have pursued Young doesn’t mean #Eagles would have budged. Despite Sun INT team still feels comfortable w him as backup.
moreso to the point
say the Eagles actually make a comeback….and gets to game 16…and needs a win to get into the playoffs….but Vick goes down before that game….
Are they really going to be comfortable with Kafka at that point? In exchange for a 4th or 5th rounder? Is that worth it?
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 18, 2011 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions
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Eagles letting it be known that CB Asante Samuel could be had prior to the trade deadline. Not sure odds of it going down are great but…
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Its certainly possible. Samuel very likely in his last year in Philly. Eagles already loaded with picks though. Need LBs and linemen
I just can’t fathom how this team would trade one of their three best defensive players given how poor the defense has been. They need his big play making ability now more than ever.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Player for player
plus picks….
If they get a good LB in the deal then its worth it.
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 18, 2011 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess I’d consider it, but DRC hasn’t really impressed me at all.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
He IS playing a different role. Even Nnamdi and Asante arent great on the inside. I though he played well against the skins….his speed is unreal… Im sure he would do better on the outside.
His upside is still pretty good considering his speed and his low contract.
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 18, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah I’d have no problem shipping Asante if the offer was right, it’d put DRC where he is comfortable & clear cap space. Also even though he can someone once in a while we won’t have to worry about Asante’s tackling anymore
by The Legend on Oct 18, 2011 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ship VY for Roland McClain sign Marc Bulger from FA. Sounds fair
by ImperialEaglesFan on Oct 18, 2011 12:02 PM EDT reply actions
after Young's ugly pick
I was ready to ship him out too, hell let’s make Ronnie Brown the #3 QB and roll the dice…
but cmon. There’s a reason we have essentially 2 starting QBs on the roster.
Wheres Terrelle Pryor in all this???
Vince been here less than a month and already done ****ed up
smh (dream team)
served a 5 game suspension
last game was his first eligible, he was on the sidelines. He’s never taken a snap in an NFL game; no way would they just hand the reigns over to him.
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Reporting eagles actively shopping asante
by VRFC8 on Oct 18, 2011 12:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
LaConfora
also said this:
They’re hurting for linebackers and linemen on both sides of the ball, especially on offense.
I don’t see how the eagles need any oline help – they’ve had a couple of injuries but it’s starting to look like they have a number of solid pieces. Who gets benched if they bring someone in?
Yeah with Justice healthy
They put a decent OL on the field last week, and that was with Peters and Dunlap out.
Mathis has been nice and Watkins was quiet this week, which means he didn’t do anything wrong. I tried to watch OL on DVR review but fell asleep
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
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Eagles have tons of picks. Doubt they would trade 22 for picks. Need a steady, experienced outside LB. When he’s happy, 22 is a great player
True but if they got offered a first he is gone before the T came out the other gms mouth.
by VRFC8 on Oct 18, 2011 12:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
look what that'd do for cap too
we have 6 million already, that’s how much DJ Williams makes, Asante is making bank this year so his prorated salary is basically our cap room. Enough to extend Desean (reasonably), maybe Todd and Shady too (they deserve it more).
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NO on williams. He’s good, but he’s 29 and injured constantly.
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Are the Raiders retarded? A 1st for Palmer is completely insane, then they also gave up a 2nd for 2013 that could possibly turn into a 1st…. wow…. no words to describe how dumb that is
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Well especially if VY was available
for a third or fourth or something.
Still the VY experiment is not complete here. Something good must come of it, right?
Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring it Home for Jerome.
makes me wonder
If Young never came in and threw that retarded pick versus the Redskins, could the Eagles have gotten two (or even ONE) first round picks from Oakland for it? Cuz it would have been worth it…
I wouldn’t be surprised if that one shitty play took him off the table for consideration…
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When the Raiders lost QB Jason Campbell for the season, they immediately went into search mode for a new quarterback. They settled on sending a king’s ransom, reportedly a first round pick in 2012 and 2013 2nd rounder that could rise to a first, to the Bengals for retired QB Carson Palmer. The Raiders also take on $7.5 million in salary this year and $11.5 million next season. That’s a ton for a QB that hasn’t practiced or played in a year and frankly looked like a shell of himself over the last few seasons anyway.
But that said, the interesting angle from an Eagles perspective is that the Raiders were also interested in Vince Young. Adam Schefter reports that they explored a Vince Young trade, but that in the end Raiders coach Hue Jackson wanted to be re-united with Carson Palmer. Jackson coached the Bengals WRs from 2004 to 2006. That’s back when Carson Palmer was actually good, so maybe Hue hasn’t watched any tape since…
So if Carson Palmer fails a physical or still wants to be retired, maybe the Raiders will end up sending some of those first picks the Eagles way and Vince Young gets shipped out…. We can hope right?