Who Could Be Potentially Dealt Before The NFL Trade Deadline?
by wild_eagle on Oct 17, 2011 3:35 PM EDT
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Alright, we're on our bye week and coming off a win it'll be a pretty good one. So instead of talking about Sundays game or the upcoming game against the Cowboys I'd like to write something up on some Eagles players I can see getting traded and some guys I can see being available from other teams..
(Note, the "players I can see being available from other teams" doesn't mean I want them on the Eagles)
Eagles Players who could potentially be available:
Ronnie Brown- Brown was overtake by Lewis after his major mistake a few weeks back, I honestly feel like the Coaches took the blame for Ronnie's attempt at a pass but at this point it won't change the fact it happened. Brown is 3rd on our depth chart and I know he wouldn't bring a ton of interest but for a 7th round pick or maybe a solid special teams player could be had for him.
Teams who could be interested: Lions, Green Bay, Arizona.
Vince Young- I realize that we just signed VY, and I realize that he's very talented. But pretty much between him and Kafka if Vick were to go down I think it'd be a "pick your poison" scenario so why not get something for Young? He's very talented, he's able to cover for an OL's deficiencies and he's got a big arm. If he can keep his head right then he'll do just fine. I'm thinking a 4th or 5th rounder could get VY.
Teams who could be interested: Miami, Colts, Raiders, Redskins, Seahawks.
Winston Justice- Yes he's had 1 game, yes he looked good in that 1 game. But with Justice you have to look at the whole body of work, he's been a solid OT for years and could really provide a decent starter for a team in need of an OT. Justice could probably be had for a mid to late round pick.
Teams who could be interested: Steelers, Raiders, Bears, Green Bay, Vikings, Cardinals, Seahawks.
Jaqua Parker- Parker has played pretty well when available and called upon, I honestly feel like he's the misfit in this system but he's still producing. He could go to a team with average DE's and easily improve their DL and provide some pop, leadership and attitude. While he wouldn't be an elite DE he would certainly be a good one and I think an asking price for him would be somewhere around the 4th round.
Teams who could be interested: Patriots, Jaguars, Titans, Bronco's, Lions, Panthers.
Asante Samuel- Asante's one of the best at his position, he's a very good player. He's a boom or bust type of guys and while that's risky he's exactly what a few teams need. If I were the Eagles I'd be looking for a 2nd rounder (starting) or a good Linebacker + late round pick.
Teams who could be interested: Miami, Patriots, Ravens, Bungles, Jaguars, Chiefs, Raiders, Bears, Lions, Vikings, Panthers, Rams, Seahawks, 49ers.
Joselio Hanson- As you can tell many teams could use a solid CB. Hanson is awful on the outside but could really help some teams while covering the slot guy. Hanson would bring no more than a 6th rounder from the right team.
Teams who could be interested: Miami, Patriots, Ravens, Raiders, Vikings, Panthers, Rams, Cardinals.
Players who I can see being available:
Brandon Lloyd- Lloyd lead the NFL in receiving yards a year ago, he was a probowler in 2010.. But with the emergence of Decker and the Bronco's shift to a more run based team it's pretty obvious that the WR in a contract year would likely be dealt. Now it's just a matter of who's willing to make the trade and the price. I think the price will be around a 3rd rounder and maybe a player.
Teams I can see in play: Bills, Dolphins, Patriots, Browns, Texans, Jaguars, Titans, Raiders, Redskins, Giants, Vikings, Panthers, Tampa Bay, Rams, 49ers, Seahawks. (EDIT!- soon after finishing this and rereading I found out that the Rams have likley reached an agreement with the Bronco's for Lloyd, I don't have any details at this time to provide but I'm sure there will be 20 fanpost and 2 fanshots about it)
Dallas Clark- I know this is going to bring about a huge fight. But you have to look at the facts, he's not happy about not getting targets, he's not happy about losing, he's not happy about having to stay and block every play. Add to this that he's 32 years old and has Eldridge and Tamme who are both very capable players behind him and you see how a deal could be made for the right price. I'd say that Clark could easily pull in a 3rd rounder plus a late round pick.
Teams I can see in play: Dolphins, Ravens, Giants, Eagles, Bears, Rams, Seahawks.
Ben Tate- Ben had a very strong start to the year in place of Foster. He showed enough to prove he's a solid starter and a good complimentary back. However with Foster they don't really need a guy who can spell him to much and with Ward being a solid option for change of pace I don't see why the Texans wouldn't at least try and shop Tate for a 4th rounder and see what they can get.
Teams I can see in play: Dolphins, Patriots, Browns, Chiefs, Cowboys, Cardinals, Seahawks.
Chris Harris- Harris is not happy with the Bears and the Bears are not happy with Harris. I personally think that Harris could go somewhere and help a team, he wouldn't be some superstar but he'd be a solid contributer and would likely start after catching up on the playbook.
Teams I can see in play: Bungles, Chiefs, Raiders, Cowboys, Redskins, Lions, Vikings, Panthers, Rams, Seahawks.
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It would be a suprise if any team would want to trade for him, when they didnt want him for free when he hit the market in the summer. Injuries I guess….
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 17, 2011 1:26 PM EDT reply actions
They had all the leverage then
It was obvious he wouldn’t start in Philly, and teams were cutting down their rosters too. We can easily hold onto him for the rest of the year if we want, though. We’re not planning on getting rid of him.
Oh I'm not saying we're going to, I'm just saying I could see him getting dealt to a team who needs
a solid guy at CB, whether it’s from guys not living up to expectations, getting injured or whatever.
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I think his contract is more manageable now… which is a good reason to keep him, but also good trade bait.
It could go either way in my opinion.
We could keep him for cheap but trade him for a pick. Or package him with a pick/player and get something nice.
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Heres the thing though. If this is Asante’s last year. Next year DRC moves outside and we will need Hanson in the slot again.
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 18, 2011 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess we could use Hughes…
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 18, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
What about Marsh?
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True, but we also have Marsh and Hughes who have shown tons of
promise.
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Wild_Eagle!
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Well in a mock trade deadline thread I traded Steve Smith for Craig Dahl (cut Jarrad Page) and I traded a 2012 4th and conditional 6th for DJ Williams.
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I don’t want Dahl (though after 6 weeks I’m not really that happy with Steve Smith’s production). Dahl isn’t physical, he’s not good against the pass, he isn’t fast, and he’s injury prone. He’s an okay tackler but I just don’t see what he offers.
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Dahl
If Coleman and Allen can’t hold down the fort I really want to see what Jarret brings to the table. I thhink Dahl would just muddy things up.
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by no1pipelayer on Oct 17, 2011 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I got Dahl just for depth purposes. He is a role player type, a good, solid tackler who isn’t a liability in any phase of the game but won’t be an impact player. He is sort of like a rich man’s Colt Anderson. My goal was to start to change the mentality of the team, get rid of some of the ‘stars’ and replace them with hardnose football players and get rid of Jarrad Page.
Speaking of Colt Anderson, I think we should be working him into the defense. He is a flat out playmaker on special teams.
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Anderson definitely deserves some looks his way.
Hopefully the Eagles cut Page, promote Graham to the active roster then give Anderson some snaps.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
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Ronnie Brown ain’t leaving. If McCoy get’s injured, we’ll only have Dion Lewis as the only other RB. Vince Young ain’t going anywhere either. Yeah, he threw a stupid pick, but the guy is very valuable because Vick could go down any minute. Sorry, but I don’t see Kafka helping us to a win against a legit team if Vick goes down. Also, it was Young’s first snap in a regular season game that wasn’t at home. He clearly isn’t used to the speed of the game. If he can get settled down, he’ll be fine…at least I hope. Winston Justice is also not going anywhere for 2 reasons….very valuable backup option should one of our Tackles go down, plus he’s worth MUCH more to us as a player than for picks/a player. I doubt many teams would give us something worthwhile for him. Samuel aint’ going anywhere cause if he is going to get traded, I believe it would have happened already. Plus that contract is every end heavy. Lloyd was just traded to the Rams.
Having said all that, Parker seems to be the most flexible guy who could get traded. Hanson is another guy too, though I don’t know what either of those guys are worth.
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Agreed on Young
Kafka and his noodle arm has shown us that he just can’t make the throws necessary to be an NFL QB.
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by no1pipelayer on Oct 17, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice to see you read my post
Lloyd was just traded to the Rams.
Anyway I never said these guys would, and I have 0 arguments against your reasoning why they wouldn’t be traded..
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
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Brandon Lloyd was just traded for a 6th rounder, Juqua Parker aint worth shit.
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Parker and a 3rd round pick could certainly be worth a very good and relatively young linebacker. And with Reid’s history of 3rd round picks, I would be all for it.
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"JUST WHEN I THOUGHT I WAS OUT...THEY PULL ME BACK IN"
-Michael Corleone
Keep in mind where he's going...
And who’s the OC there.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Justice
is too valuable to deal right now. He showed enough that he could actually open up enough flexibility to move Todd back to LG and Winston to RT. Then take your pick with Mathis or Watkins at RG.
I’m okay with Peters-Mathis-Kelce-Watkins-Herremans.
But I actually think I like the combination of Peters-Herremans-Kelce-Watkins-Justice better.
Yes, Mathis has been playing well (according to PFF and any football person). Especially in pass pro and out in space. But he gets very little push inside. Herremans would help in those situations while you wouldn’t lose much on the outside at RT.
At this point, as long as its a successful combo, I dont care who lines up where…. theyve sitwched it up so many tiems, just stick with the one that works.
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 17, 2011 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
We really don't know how well Justice would do at RT long term.
Reid changed the whole offense to quick drops and short passes for the Washington game. That may have been to cover for Justice"s deficiencies. I’d hate to have to sacrifice the down the field stuff.
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by no1pipelayer on Oct 17, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Absolutely not.
You keep Peters-Mathis-Kelce-Watkins-Herremans when healthy.
Mathis is the 2nd ranked OG in the NFL, why move him, why fuck that up? He and Peters have great chemistry and have been doing work together..
Watkins has looked good and Herremans partnering up with him is going to be crazy, they’re both runblocking fiends..
And while you say Mathis doesn’t get much push inside, I disagree, when Vick made that dive for a first down he actually followed Mathis.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I couldn't agree more.
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by no1pipelayer on Oct 17, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I wish Watkins knew how to play C.
Then we could just go Peters – Herremans – Watkins – Mathis- Dunlap and just dominate.
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I would honestly love that type of an OL.
Though I think the battle between Dunlap and Justice is a tough one.
Both need help from a TE a lot more often than Herremans does and both are liabilities.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Mathis is the 2nd rated OG according to one publication. Who, btw, rank the players via TV footage (not all-22). Mathis has done well, and I’m fine with the line you mention. But I’d also be open to putting Herremans back at LG and moving Mathis to RG… IF Winston is back to full strength and is reliable.
I think Winston is underrated and still has a bad rap from the 6-sack game. He wasn’t tops in the league over the last couple years, but he was more than solid.
And my opinion isn’t based on Mathis being bad. I actually think Mathis has been pretty good. But Herremans is better. And if you can upgrade the LG position, upgrade the RG position (from Watkins to Mathis), and stay status quo at RT, then you do it.
I don't think he will get dealt (no one would want him)
But I sure hope he is gone after this week. Of course I am talking about Page.
El Donkerino (if you're not into the whole brevity thing).
I miss me some Brian Dawkins :( ... but Coleman played pretty good
Re: Dallas Clark
he’s not happy about having to stay and block every play.
If he ain’t happy doing that in Indy, he won’t be real happy doing it here, either.
We've been sending the TE out quite a bit actually.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
agree'd
Harbor and Celek have been sent out often just not targeted as much wether that be because Vick doesnt trust them or whatever it maybe. All I am saying is both could be very good as Celek has proven. I would be all about trading Asante for some help if could be. Would clear up some cap space and DJ Willams and Dawk back for Asante. We get a LB and we get the leader we need on that D front cause we all as Eagles fans know he is without a doubt a LEADER.
Ronnie Brown we keep – but could go for right price. Will be interesting. When is the final hour for this?
I think the final hour is like 1159 tuesday night.
And I don’t want to trade Asante, the dude normally turns it on the 2nd half of the season and he’s a monster when the spotlights on him.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Wonder how many 2 TE sets we ran Sunday?
I remember seeing them out there quite often.
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I'd love to see if we could wrangle James Laurinaitis from the Rams
they need a CB in the worst way and may still be looking for help at WR even with the Lloyd signing. I’d be willing to send them Samuel, Smith and a pick if it was possible.
I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.
I could see it happening.
But I wouldn’t like it. I’m not a big Laurinaitis fan.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I would like to acquire Chris Harris just for the fact he’d participate here at BGN from time to time.
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Oct 17, 2011 3:40 PM EDT reply actions
Haha, I almost wrote that.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
terrible idea
A) you don’t trade away your depth just because you haven’t had to use it yet.
B) you listed a bunch of offensive skill players for us to receive in a trade, which is the last thing we need.
I don’t think you have really read the OP. He hasn’t said that he wants these trades dealt, it’s just players that have a chance of being dealt. And if you can get good value in trades from these players, why not?
You also missed where he didn’t say that those four players were targets of the Eagles. They are just likely players to be dealt who are bigger names. He only linked the Eagles to Dallas Clark, which is entirely fair. So he didn’t list any Eagles trades.
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by TheRealMcCoy on Oct 17, 2011 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
No one reads it all, the prob jumped down saw names
and then commented, I see that happen often. It is crazy. and by the way W_E nice write up.
Thank you man, I appreciate it.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Thank you, I only linked the Eagles to 1 guy.
The other were guys who’d be nice to have but are unneccessary in many ways for this team.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Umm. Dumbass.
Read the fucking post, then speak.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I don't see a lot of trades happening with any teams really.
Watching the Packers win the Superbowl with all those injuries has a lot of GMs and coaches seeing how valuable depth is in the NFL these days, especially with a shortened offseason where we have seen a rash of hamstring and ankle injuries, most likely due to bodies not being in proper condition for the rigors of an NFL season. I’d imagine desperate teams like the Rams, Broncos, Colts, Raiders, Dolphins, etc. would shuffle some things up just to try and plug holes on a sinking ship, but if I had to guess most teams will stay put and preserve their depth.
As for the Eagles, I think we’d be hearing a lot more buzz if our LB and safeties had failed miserably on Sunday, but with everyone in Philly breathing a collective sigh of relief as the defense was pretty stout, I imagine not much will happen.
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It'll take more than a dose of Rex to convince me our defense is stout
We need LBs. Depth is important, but our depth is shit.
I'm not so sure our LB's are as good as everybody's thinking.
Certainly Nate Allen’s playing well and Coleman had a fantastic game. We may have just fixed the Safety position, now if we can get a legit LB we’d be scary.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I seriously want to try Brandon Graham out at LB
I mean it could be a stretch but he was a tweener coming out of the draft. He also seemed to be pretty adept in run support last year. If we could spin that and pull a good LB out of our ass it would be fantastic
I could actually see us using him as a Kiwanuka type.
LB/DE, however the only way I see him as a LB is if we’re truly super desperate and don’t use him in coverage.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I think the player that has the best chance of getting traded from us is Parker since we’re going to need to activate Graham soon. I don’t think Justice is going to get traded since I have a feeling that Herremans is going to get moved back to LG so they can have there best five ol out there.
They won't bench Mathis,
he’s playing like a top player right now. The dude’s great in space, he’s been solid in run blocking and very good in pass blocking. He’s gonna be a guy we want to keep on the field..
Just because Justice has 1 game where he gets a lot of help from the TE doesn’t mean he’s one of our best 5
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
The world is ending.
"When life hands you lemons, make a profit." - Chet Cashley
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by Ralf E Chubbs on Oct 17, 2011 4:28 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Why is that?
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
you were taken seriously enough to be put on the front page
never thought i’d see you get there after declaring a few months ago you were changing your image.
"When life hands you lemons, make a profit." - Chet Cashley
"Float like a Butterfly, sting like a Bee; Make sure you got the ball in your hands, or else you won’t get a TD." - Joe Theismann
by Ralf E Chubbs on Oct 18, 2011 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude, I've changed.
Thanks for having faith man.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Haha When I need a reminder I just go look at the Eternal Threads
"When life hands you lemons, make a profit." - Chet Cashley
"Float like a Butterfly, sting like a Bee; Make sure you got the ball in your hands, or else you won’t get a TD." - Joe Theismann
by Ralf E Chubbs on Oct 18, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Does everyone forget how valuable samuel is!?
The dude is a monster, especially in the post-season no way he goes.
by rainvillefromottawa on Oct 17, 2011 4:29 PM EDT reply actions
I never said trade him.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I wonder if they would trade Riley Cooper to the Broncos
so they can unleash the powers of Tebow.
xEgan on Twitter
Better never............
I like him , and Brent . So no…to them . Brown,Hanson, and mayyybe Parker [but I still like having him around] [don’t know why] If any.
It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.
the day we only score 3 points with this offense, is the day ill give everyone a dollar haha
by bleedgreen89 on Sep 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
by JJeaglerooter on Oct 17, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure they could, it'd probably be a good move if we could get a player like DJ Williams out of it.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
you know
I like that idea but I would say only asante, Justice is going to be good to keep around for another year or 2 just in case,, but then you have asante playing us in 3 weeks so that could be a bad thing, I would like to have briggs though,, that would sure up our LB’s for sure
Im 1/2 serious 1/2 sarcastic
I wouldn’t want to face angry asante.
but it wouldn’t be a god awful trade.
I would hold on to Justice for the year...
i know he sucks at times but just for insurance we should hold on to him….at least for this year. maybe if the price is right we could deal him to a team desperate for a OT but other than that keep’em. Parker and Hansen gave us a lot of good years but i would rather see them go instead of Justice.
Vince young to the raiders
This makes the most sense to me, they would give us an arm and leg for him right now. It would be risky for us, but think of it this way, if we lose vick for any long period of time were done anyway. So why not make this move?
Stats won't get you in the playoffs. Winning will get you in the playoffs
-Michael Vick-
That's what I was thinking.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Nice post W_E
My thoughts on who the Giants might like.
I’d take away the Giants from the Dallas Clark “sweepstakes” because Jake Ballard has been on fire. He’s been the most efficient TE in the league (note: efficient, not best) and has more or less surprised everyone.
Also, Clark is not known for his blocking, which is the number 1 priority for us in a TE.
I would add us as players in the Chris Harris talks. This is because we have been using the nickel package more and more…we actually started the game with it against the Bills. However, a problem is….Deon Grant is garbage. We need an upgrade there and Tyler Sash ain’t ready.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 5:45 PM EDT reply actions
Jake Ballard has been on fire. He’s been the most efficient TE in the league (note: efficient, not best)
What do you mean by “efficient”?
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Oct 17, 2011 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I think the 2nd most YPC
Best DVOA for TEs
highest catch percentage by TEs
Adequate sample size, I’d say as well….
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Well he only has 13 receptions for 15 targets…
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Oct 17, 2011 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
15 rec. 273 yds 2 tds
was a pure blocking TE in the first 2 games,he was only incorporated into the O for the last 4 games. and is on pace for a better season then Boss provided in 2010.
at 6-6 275 he has been Eli’s new “go to”.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
So far so good, but talk to me when he actually DOES it. :P
That’s a small sample size IMO.
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Oct 17, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
fare enough..
not really claiming his greatness, just explaining why Clark or any TE is no longer necessary for the Giants.
now if u wanna talk LG,im all ears.
side note : NY media/BSPN were killing Reese for letting Boss & SS12 go….
Ballard 15 rec. 273 yds 2 tds > Boss 7rec.149yds 1tds
Cruz 21 rec. 398yds 3tds > Smith 5rec. 63yds 0tds
but ill save that for when i feel like mocking Adam Schein on Satellite radio.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
You may have a case with the Boss situation, but the Smith one is a little skewed…
It seems to me that Smith would have a bigger role in your offense up there than he has with us now, especially since he used to be Eli’s favorite target. I honestly believe the Eagles’ signing of Smith had something to do with being able to take a weapon away from you guys.
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Oct 17, 2011 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
That's probably true.
I honestly believe the Eagles’ signing of Smith had something to do with being able to take a weapon away from you guys.
So far though, don’t think its been working….
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
You have a point with regard to the skewed #s
but he’s turned out to be an Adequate replacement.
And I believe you may be right.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
also Travis Beckum falls into the
Dallas Clark mold. at 6-3 235 and good hands , Gilbride has had a real hard time making him fit.. and thats putting it kindly.
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'zz SUCK!! Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Jacquian Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
Thanks bud.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
vince young to raiders
would be interesting…considering kyle boller is at best a high school qquarterback. surprised i havent heard any speculation about that from the espn guys
LeSean McCoy is the best thing to hit Philadelphia since Ben Franklin
I would be in favour of this purely to once and for all kill the dream team thing. Stone dead. We don’t need him as a backup, his potential is worth way more to a team that can put him on the field regularly. We might be able to get someone like David Garrard in to fill the experienced backup role, he’s holding out for a starting job I suppose, but standing behind Vick is probably the best bet out there in terms of potential playing time. If only Al Davis could have made it to one more trade deadline this would have been a lock……
exactly
and they would love to have him, and they would give us something stupid. The raiders love the eagles, they helped into the playoffs a few years ago.. Then took hayward bay, so we could steal maclin. Make it happen raiders
Stats won't get you in the playoffs. Winning will get you in the playoffs
-Michael Vick-
then what would happen if Vick goes down? Do you really think Kafka has what it takes to lead this team?
As I mentioned
We wouldn’t need anyone to win games at that point. If we lose vick for any amount of time, our playoff shot is dead. So might as well put kafka in and add to his value while increasing our draft pick.
Stats won't get you in the playoffs. Winning will get you in the playoffs
-Michael Vick-
Do you really think either of the two looked good enough to
possibly give us a shot?
Vick goes down and we’re fucked, no matter who we got under center.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
nah...they already have terrelle pryor, and I doubt they lose another draft pick for a QB
when they could have David Garrard.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 17, 2011 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
To be honest I had completely forgotten about Pryor, fair point. The impression I had was that he’s a very long term project though, whereas Young, although volatile, has shown the ability to be an NFL QB (with some further upside if he gets his head screwed on straight). Garrard is what he is, and the potential Young has would be worth something to a team like the Raiders. You’re right though, probably not enough upside to justify a draft pick in these Al Davis-less times. Still feel there’s a glimmer of hope, it makes a little bit of sense.
Pryor's not up to speed with an NFL playbook.
Also look at the options for experience QB’s and tell me Young isn’t he only one who fits the mold of QB the Raiders want?
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
My two cents
I don’t think they should get rid of Ronnie Brown because he provides something McCoy and Lewis don’t, a power (somewhat) back. He’s bigger and he can be pretty useful in certain situations, unless he throws the ball again.
Vince Young, although he threw that INT against the Skins, can still win games. Kafka did good during the Atlanta game, but god he was terrible during the Giants game. It gives me a headache trying to figure out which QB I’d rather have backing up Vick, but VY has won games, Kafka has not.
Asante Samuel is my biggest worry. I’d be really heartbroken if they ended up trading him. Yeah, he gambles a lot but he’s still a massive threat to take the ball away all the time. Him and Nnamdi are a great set of corners. DRC is good too, but him and Nnamdi don’t come close to Asante and Nnamdi.
Justice, Parker and Hanson I’d be alright with because Graham should be coming back soon, which would throw him into the mix of DE’s, which would probably bury Parker on the depth chart. Justice is good, but he’s just injured way too much.
Bring on the heat.
For some reason I just have a strong hunch Djax is a candidate to get traded. He really has been invisible so far this yr and still hasn’t changed his contract demands. Maclin is by far our number 1 and mccoy is far more valuable to this team.
by VRFC8 on Oct 17, 2011 8:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
For the same reasons, I think he won’t get traded. If Maclin establishes himself beyond doubt as the no1 receiver, Jackson loses some negotiating leverage. Plus his production in terms of yards per game and per catch is roughly the same as the last two years, and it’s all at a cost of relative peanuts. Unless someone comes and blows Roseman’s door off with a Julio Jones-like bounty of draft picks (plus maybe an MLB thrown in) I can’t see it.
I could see it happening because anything is possible in the NFL, and shit like this is the Eagles MO
however I don’t think it will happen. Desean’s a #2 WR, he’s no longer getting the first looks every single time. Maclin’s established himself as a damn good WR and with Djax he’s going to need that kick in the ass…
I’d also say that trading Desean is crazy, who’s going to replace him outside? Avant’s a good option for 2-3 games but not for the next 10 games, Coopers hardly able to get on the field and Smith isn’t even getting looks.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
We would have to get multiple ( 4-5 ) high draft picks to trade the most dynamic player in the NFL.
Say goodbye to 10 yd outs that turn into 90 yd TD vs the Cowboys ; on a twisted ankle!!!
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
Yes, very true. We'd have to get some kinda
super deal.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Jackson is 10th in yds receiving in the NFL. Maclin is 8th. So Maclin is what? Semi-invisible?
I am sure the Eagles would love to get Jackson signed to a reasonable contract – market value.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
This is true, however Maclin's stat's are "pretty" therefore he's underrated.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Not that I think it could happen
but if the Eagles had traded Justice, who would you have put at RT this past Sunday?
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
I would like to thank everybody for their input and Jason/Mods for the front page.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
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