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Eagles Placing Emphasis On Limiting Turnovers

Nearly every Eagle that has stepped in front of a microphone this week has stressed the importance of limiting turnovers. Marty Mornhinweg said today that it's been a point of emphasis all wee.

We'll just keep emphasizing it, players to players, coaches to players, and we'll get better; typically you get better emphasizing that and we've done some drills, ball security drills and so forth. So that's where we're at. If we take better care of the ball then we'll be in much better shape, that's pretty obvious and pretty simple."

One concern would be that if the team is worried about not turning the ball over, can they still be aggressive and make plays? Marty says that's not an issue.

"Oh, absolutely, you’ve seen it in the past. Taking care of the ball is a conscious mindset in every way. And so, it’s just that simple. And again, I do know this, emphasize it [because] it’s crystal clear [and] typically that part of it gets better. And the aggressiveness part, the natural instinct is to kind of [scale back] and become conservative and that’s the wrong approach, I think, normally."

Mornhinweg stressed that the turnovers haven’t been a result of taking big risks or doing things well out of the ordinary, "If you look at the turnovers, these are not plays where we’re taking big risks."

Certainly, that’s been the case for Michael Vick’s league leading 7 picks. The Washington Post took a look at them and found that it was tough to blame all but maybe one or two on a poor decision he had made. Plus, when he did make a bad decision, like with the Kelvin Hayden pick against Atlanta, replays showed it wasn't even actually a pick.

That said, at least one turnover, cough Ronnie Brown, can be blamed on either taking a big risk or making a ridiculous call.

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Also it would be nice to see some emphasis on the defense creating turnovers as well. Swarming to the ball and making things happen.

by 999 on Oct 14, 2011 9:21 AM EDT reply actions  

This

I’m disappointed that the Birds only have 5 turnovers on the year. Jeez that’s bad.

Eagles: 1-4, I still have hope!
Flyers: Good start
Phillies: Sigh

by bdawk4ever on Oct 14, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cause everyone is running on us and out linebackers can’t tackle which means they can’t force fumbles.

"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins

Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity... Unfortunately their graces are wasted because of one Juan Castillo.

***OFFICIALLY ON THE FIRE ANDY REID BANDWAGON***

by immynimmy on Oct 14, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

The Packers last year went through a period early in the season, where they lost 3 out of 4 games, against not-so-stellar competition, and the one victory in that stretch, they were pretty damned lucky to pull it out against the lowly Lions.

They chose not to fire their coach, they woke the fuck up and put a little something together later in the season.

Oh boy, is this great!

by MayIhave10,000marblesplease? on Oct 14, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Packers have Dom Capers

We don’t.

"You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity."

by benjapal on Oct 14, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

But we’re the Dream team…THE DREAM TEAM

"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins

Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity... Unfortunately their graces are wasted because of one Juan Castillo.

***OFFICIALLY ON THE FIRE ANDY REID BANDWAGON***

by immynimmy on Oct 14, 2011 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

No we aren’t. And we never were.

I can’t wait until that stupid phrase dies.

Eagles: 1-4, I still have hope!
Flyers: Good start
Phillies: Sigh

by bdawk4ever on Oct 14, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was being facetious.

"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins

Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity... Unfortunately their graces are wasted because of one Juan Castillo.

***OFFICIALLY ON THE FIRE ANDY REID BANDWAGON***

by immynimmy on Oct 14, 2011 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

We are the "Dreamy Team"

Winning is in our DNA
(Dominique-Nnamdi-Asante)

Asante means "thank you" in Swahili. Eli Manning means "here you go" in another language

by starship 007 on Oct 14, 2011 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

How the hell did the Packers lose 3 of 4 with DOM CAPERS???

Oh boy, is this great!

by MayIhave10,000marblesplease? on Oct 14, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

he wanted to make things interesting

He knew goin 19-0 would be too boring.

Reporter: "What have you done for T.O., besides getting him suspended?"

Drew Rosenhaus: "Next question."

by So. Cal Swag on Oct 14, 2011 1:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That said, at least one turnover, cough Ronnie Brown, can be blamed on either taking a big risk or making a ridiculous call.

Can’t it be both?

El Donkerino (if you're not into the whole brevity thing).
I miss me some Brian Dawkins :(

by El Donkerino on Oct 14, 2011 9:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Interesting article by Schefter about trades that should happen

Asante to Lions for a second round pick.

Dawkins and DJ Williams to Eagles for 3rd round pick

Story

I like that second one. I think all of us would be ok with Dawk back…and we have plenty of picks for next year.

"You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity."

by benjapal on Oct 14, 2011 10:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Asante to Lions for a second round pick.

The Lions are actually good, so that would basically be a high 3rd.

It would make more sense if it was Asante and a 3rd for their 1st.

"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins

Nnamdi, Asante, DRC; The Three Graces...charm, beauty, and creativity... Unfortunately their graces are wasted because of one Juan Castillo.

***OFFICIALLY ON THE FIRE ANDY REID BANDWAGON***

by immynimmy on Oct 14, 2011 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

It would make more sense if it was Asante and a 3rd for their 1st.

As much as I was on the “keep the 3 headed monster at CB”, I would do that deal in a heartbeat if I was Howie.

by djthekidd on Oct 14, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone else have a good feeling about this week?

Or am I acting like a battered spouse telling myself it will be different this time?

by DonnyD on Oct 14, 2011 10:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Not that it matters, but 7 of the 8 USA Today staff picks are for the Eagles.

by 999 on Oct 14, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

well

maybe not technically a “trap” game but they are prolly looking past the birds

by Philly O's on Oct 14, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

To say that they’re looking past us is ridiculous. The Redskins aren’t that stacked but right now they’re playing tough right now.. Unlike the birds.
I still think they have a sour taste in their mouths from the last game where we raped them. They’re going to come hard and strong on Sunday.. I just hope that they have they’re head on straight and can take it.

by TimmyGee on Oct 14, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh Lord.. please forgive me for that horrible horrible phrasing.

by TimmyGee on Oct 14, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

reads like..........

the one youi wrote to penthouse letters.

It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.

the day we only score 3 points with this offense, is the day ill give everyone a dollar haha
by bleedgreen89 on Sep 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions

by JJeaglerooter on Oct 14, 2011 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL
They’re going to come hard and strong on Sunday

Sorry, I have to say it….That’s what she said!

by djthekidd on Oct 14, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

59-28

i don’t think they’ll be looking past us, they will probably be fired up for this one.

When I die, I want the Philadelphia Eagles to be the pallbearers at my funeral. So they can let me down, one last time.

by rich p on Oct 14, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

No one in the division...

…will ever look past us. We basically dominated the division the last decade.

Why do people always think I'm playing the Race Card???
Is it because I'm black???

by Qwest on Oct 14, 2011 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve felt good about every game so far besides the Giants.

The Jruth shall be told.

by packimop on Oct 14, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would like just once for a pro football player to step up and say “Turnovers are a problem for us. In fact, I think we’d be a better team if we had MORE of them!”

I jest, of course, but in fact I long argued that McNabb would have been a better QB if he had been willing to take more chances, and therefore had more turnovers, than he did…

"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Bear Bryant

by NJBammer on Oct 14, 2011 10:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Really wanted him to throw into double coverage or smaller spaces 15-20 yds downfield? One thing I liked generally thought McNabb did a better job more often that not by playing within himself and not forcing throws he really couldn’t make.

by MG77 on Oct 14, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

I have a theory about complex systems, which is that if you strive for 100% perfection you risk sacrificing potential improvements. Let’s say that McNabb threw into smaller spaces more often, which would result in more INTs, but would also result into more big plays. There is some ratio (which I don’t pretend to be able to calculate) which would say that for every 1 INT, you would have to have X number of big plays to offset it.

For illustrative purposes, let’s say that for every 1 INT, you need to have 10 plays over 10+ yards. McNabb was so conservative that his ratio may have been 20 plays of 10+ yards for every 1 INT. Great, right? Well, to me that says that there were many potential 10+ yard plays which he refused to try. In other words, there is an optimal rate of INTs/Big Plays which he was too far on one side of the spectrum to allow him to fully realize his talents. With a more “gunslinger” attitude, he would have gotten the ratio to 13 Big Plays to every 1 INT, which would have resulted in a net gain of big plays which would still more than offset the INTs he threw.

In business, they say if you are not failing occasionally, that only means you are not really trying hard enough. I contend that McNabb’s fear of “failure” (INTs) prevented him from trying hard enough to go for the big play.

"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." - Bear Bryant

by NJBammer on Oct 14, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

u mean like

McNabb in washington?

Just wait until December..

by maximdim on Oct 15, 2011 10:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I have to get out..........

my slide rule for that one.You also have to calculate in “Murphies Law”….{ If it can go wrong , it will…….for the Eagles ,that is.}

It's never easy being an Eagle fan........but I'll be damned if I ever stop.

the day we only score 3 points with this offense, is the day ill give everyone a dollar haha
by bleedgreen89 on Sep 16, 2011 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions

by JJeaglerooter on Oct 15, 2011 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

In honor of this coming Sunday

I thought we could all use a little bit of this

Men judge generally more by the eye than by the hand, for everyone can see and few can feel. Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are-Il Principe

I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7

by TricksterG on Oct 14, 2011 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

It's the football's job

to put the players in a better position where they don’t drop or muff it or throw it into the hands of opposing ballplayers. The ball is going to look at the tapes and meet with the other footballs and re-evaluate how it can do a better job of putting the players in a position where they don’t lose hold of it.

Time’s yours.

by sdf on Oct 14, 2011 10:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Cough Cough don't blame Ronnie

He never thought to throw a run away before andy and marty got a hold of him. Next thing to do is blame the punter for the touchback on 4th and four from their 37. Maybe blame Mcnabb for wasting all the timeouts. Oh wait can’t blame him anymore.

by buddyball9 on Oct 14, 2011 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I understand the need to limit turnovers, but I really hope they aren’t overthinking this. If they start pressing and worrying about losing the ball, that’s exactly what is going to happen. You just have to go out there, play smart, and play football. When you think too much you lose your instincts and tend to make more mistakes.

They need to relax and forget expectations.

by J. Wil on Oct 14, 2011 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

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