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Much has been said of the Eagles' stock of talent at certain positions, and complete dearth of talent at some others. I still believe the coaches haven't done all they can with what they have-- the offense is as usual far too imbalanced (20 carries for Shady over 2 games is UNACCEPTABLE-- take some pressure off Vick! Passing attempts correlates with turnovers...) and the defensive gameplan by Senor Juan leaves much to be desired to say the least. 

However Reid/Roseman could have gotten their Asomugha and Jenkins and Babin and STILL had plenty of cash left over to upgrade the middle of the defense.

The opening weekend LB combo of Fokou at WILL, Matthews at MLB, and Chaney at SAM gets a grade F. The opening day safety unit of Jarrad Page at SS and Coleman at FS gets an F too (Coleman isn't THAT bad, but Page is so remarkably bad he brought the entire unit down to his level).

Now the new linebacker unit of Rolle at WILL, Chaney at MLB, and Fokou at SAM is slightly improved. Rolle especially is playing downhill and not shying from contact, and Chaney's block-shedding deficiencies were at least tempered by his INT and occasional good tackle on Sunday. Overall I'd upgrade the current linebacker unit to a D+ overall, with Rolle being the most productive and consistent.

After Page [mis]played his way to the bench (hopefully for good) I expect Coleman to start at his natural position of SS next weekend, with Allen holding it down again at FS. Coleman is actually very good in run support although he's a liability in coverage, while Allen is sort of the opposite. If both these guys play the way they played last year (Allen at the beginning and Coleman at the end of the season), the safety unit gets upgraded to a grade C. Again, it's a shame it took Castillo 5 weeks to figure these things out (along with playing press man instead of zone). But Jarrad Page should have never stepped foot on the field.

But how good could the defense really have been this season with the 2011 free agent market? Consider the cap space that the following free agent pickups are eating this year (numbers approximate, I did my best to track down accurate figures):

Vince Young: $4 million
Steve Smith: $2.3 million
Ronnie Brown: $1.3 million
Jarrad Page: $575k

Total: $8.2 million, more or less.

Young looks to be the third-- not second, string QB; Page's deficiencies have already been covered, and so far Brown's largest contribution on limited snaps was his hilarious lateral-screen pass at the goal line in the 49ers game. Smith's claim to fame in limited time was his dropped pass-turned INT which led to a 14 point swing in the Giants game. Incredibly-- as bad as this team as a whole has played at times-- if Page, Brown, and Smith were never on this roster, the team could conceivably be 4-1 or 5-0 now given the huge individual errors each one has made at critical moments. Page alone is responsible for at least 2 losses. Jeffy Lurie could have simply pocketed the extra cash and everyone could have won!

Seriously though, that $8.2 million could have been spent FAR more wisely. 

Nick Barnett signed with the Bills for a $3.5 million cap hit this year; he is currently 9th in the NFL in total tackles and had a pick-6 against the Eagles. Steven Tulloch signed with the Lions in THEIR Wide-9 scheme for $3.25 million and was last seen on Monday Night Football flying from sideline to sideline, blowing up screen plays, plugging up running lanes, and generally tossing people around. We could have had both of these guys with a couple million left over.

Someone also had to take charge with the cornerback situation, as Samuel ($9.3 million) and Asomugha ($10 million) suck up huge cap space but play completely opposite and contradictory styles. Asomugha is pure press-man, Samuel is pure zone--a route-jumper. Whether we kept Samuel and used Aso's money elsewhere, or traded Samuel after acquiring Aso, SOMETHING had to give, and it was on the Head Coach or D-Coordinator to decide whether this defense was going to continue mostly as a cover 3 scheme or switch to man-up with Aso and DRC.

With one of the corners gone, we could have resigned the sure-tackling Quintin Mikell, providing veteran continuity and leadership and preventing this unit from perceiving itself as a band of mercenaries. Mikell went to the Rams for $6.75 million this year and probably would have accepted less to remain with the team that first gave him a shot as an undrafted free agent. He was obviously reluctant to leave but management gave him no choice.

Consider what the middle 5, the heart of our defense, could have looked like this year:

WLB: Brian Rolle
MLB: Steven Tulloch
SAM: Nick Barnett
SS: Quintin Mikell
FS: Nate Allen

I'd give that linebacker corps a B+ and that safety unit a B to B+ as well. Much better than what we currently have.

Young + Brown + Smith + Page + Samuel = $17.5 million in cap space

Tulloch + Barnett + Mikell = $13.5 million in cap space.

Now after getting rid of Samuel's contract you've actually got $4 million left over in cap space after vastly upgrading the middle of the defense. That money could have been spent on another "big back" who wasn't totally washed up and mentally challenged like Brown (what was wrong with Jerome Harrison?), on another veteran defensive back for depth, on an offensive lineman, or any combination thereof. (Or, of course, Samuel could have simply been traded for a player with a lesser contract, which is the same principle) 

Funny math, huh? Roseman and Reid really pulled off a doozie this year.... they had to try HARD to make this team this bad after spending all that cash.

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Page is responsible for like 3 of our losses…I say we trade Asante now cuz he can’t tackle….I dont know if lance briggs fit into our system but I know he wanted a trade.

by Jettsetter on Oct 12, 2011 7:27 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

If he does then I say definitely do it, because Castillo will finally have a guy from a defense he admires.

by eaglemaniac814 on Oct 12, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah he do

But wha ha happen was chicogo manigmen theydont have no wey to pay da man caus all dey want is money no what am sayin

"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson

by waterfield on Oct 12, 2011 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good write up.

I’m curious to see what FA Linebackers will be out there this offseason.

by Wokjab on Oct 12, 2011 7:44 AM EDT reply actions  

FA contracts are more than 1 year

I haven’t looked through all the math, so this might not be an issue… but i’m assuming the Tulloch and Barnett contracts are multi year deals which grow over time.

Also, are those 3.25 and 3.5Mil numbers including the pro-rated signing bonus?

Either way, signing holdover 1 year deals with guys like Ronnie Brown, Steve Smith, etc allows them to try to resign Jackson and McCoy, with large future contracts on guys like Barnet and Tulloch you’d have a tough time resigning those two.

I think they should’ve signed Mikell and a veteran LB (probably not of the quality of tulloch or barnett) rather than Asomugha (is Asante/DRC and Hanson so bad?), GMs do have to think 3-5 years into the future with every contract… i’m sure that played a part.

by Matt dubs on Oct 12, 2011 10:30 AM EDT reply actions  

For Barnett & Tulloch

Both those numbers include the signing bonus if applicable— it’s the total money they’re guaranteed this year.

Tulloch actually only singed a one year deal w/the Lions, he apparently is very loyal and wanted to “earn” a long-term contract after this season. Sounds like a stand-up guy who would have been a great influence for this defense.

Barnett singed a 3 year deal with the Bills for $12 million. See here: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/nick-barnett/

He is apparently due $4 million over each of the next 2 seasons. That’s still not exactly a king’s ransom. We chose instead to spend $4 million on a third string QB and $2.3 mil on a No. 4-5 wide receiver.

The Young signing I could have actually empathized with if the Eagles actually utilized the mobility of their QBs, but it’s evident that whether it’s Vick or Kafka or Young they expect them to sit in the pocket and throw it 40-50 times per game. So why sign Young? There are better pocket passers out there…

by Kevin888 on Oct 12, 2011 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why sign Young indeed

That guy sucks. The best he was going to do was sit on the bench all year and maybe play about 1 1/2 total quarters in blowout wins/losses. He adds nothing to this team

by DLawrence55 on Oct 12, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

agree and disagree

Maybe barnett for a similar 3 year 12mil couldve happened, but from what your saying it wouldve taken a monstrous contract to get Tulloch, since he’s giving a home town discount and waiting to get a big signing. So he’s off the table essentially. Barnett’s a fine player, certainly better than anything the eagles have, but I don’t think he’s a special player by any means.

Young is 30-17 as a starter… he might not have a ton of tools, etc etc, but he can win a few games when Vick is inevitably injured. There is no other team in the NFL which needs a more game-ready QB than the eagles… they felt Young was the guy… I don’t have a problem with that.

by Matt dubs on Oct 12, 2011 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

As I demonstrated, if they released Samuel along with not signing Young, Brown, Smith, or Jarrett, they would have had an extra $17.5 million in cap space.

That’s enough juice to have signed Mikell, Tulloch, and Barnett all to multi-year deals, forming along with Cole and Jenkins the nucleus of what could have been a top-notch defense for years to come.

Maybe Barnett isn’t quite the player Tulloch is, but he has a Super Bowl ring and he’s a savvy veteran.

by Kevin888 on Oct 12, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, thats not true

you showed you could sign tulloch to the deal he signed with the Lions… that deal was never (and would never) be available to the Eagles, so its irrelevant to the conversation.

by Matt dubs on Oct 12, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay, so what would Tulloch have signed with the Eagles for for one year? $4 million? As I demonstrated there is still spare cash left over by cutting Samuel, even if it only takes off $8 mil instead of 9…. Additionally, Mikell probably would have resigned with the Eagles for $5-6 mil/year or so instead of $6.75 million.

Do you think Tulloch would command more than $6 million/year or so for a multiyear deal?

There are still other moves they could have planned after 2011 to free up cap space. Juqua Parker is taking up $3.3 million this year. Celek is taking $2.5mil and Clay Harbor looks better at this point. Tapp and Brandon Graham are hogging up $5 mil between them.

I see your point re: the burden of signing DeSean AND Shady next year to multiyear deals…. but I wouldn’t give DeSean more than $6-7 mil/year though, he’s too inconsistent…

The point is that if management wanted to make linebackers a priority they could have found a way. Even if it just meant locking up Tulloch OR Barnett and not both, it would have been a tremendous improvement to the middle of the defense.

I think we can all agree though that spending $8.2 mil between Young, Brown, and Smith was a ludicrous waste of cap space no matter which way you cut it.

by Kevin888 on Oct 12, 2011 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

additionally you only analyzed the effects it has this season. In the long term signing those guys could cost the eagles from being able to extend Jackson, McCoy, and possibly Maclin later.

Also, releasing/trading Samuel does not free up his entire 9.3Million, you’re still on the hook for the prorated signing bonus, which is 1 million each year for the next 3. Dunno if you took that into account… i think you still had enough wiggle room in the final number… but its worth keeping in mind

by Matt dubs on Oct 12, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t want Jackson…trade him for a first round pick. Draft a new guy.

I come in peace. Neutrality is my thing.

Barry Sanders is better than Deion Sanders.

by BIBTD on Oct 12, 2011 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree, i dont like jackson either… but what team is giving up a first round pick for a guy who is going to be a FA at the end of the year?

And in the market he’s going to require a higher salary than he’s worth… basically no tream would trade for him without an extension, and he wont sign an extension that keeps his trade value at a high level. If he demands 6, 7 mil a season he’s only worth a 4th round pick maybe…

by Matt dubs on Oct 12, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

A team who is going to the playoffs. They might make a gamble with his ability to open the field. Kind of like Hunter Pence for the Phillies and Carlos Beltran for the San Francisco Giants. Just hope the Patriots don’t get him.

conditional 2012 or 2013 3rd or 4th round pick for Jackson. Pack your bags, Jackson.

I come in peace. Neutrality is my thing.

Barry Sanders is better than Deion Sanders.

by BIBTD on Oct 12, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t remember who on here said we should have signed Tulloch and Tyler Thigpen instead of Vince Young, but I’m pretty sure they’re a genius.

Fly Eagles Fly, on the road to Vicktory!

by KeepSwinging on Oct 12, 2011 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

The moral of this fanpost is “hindsight is 20/20”.

Could you have told me in July that a 30-year-old LB who had spent two of the past three years on IR (once for a torn ACL) would (for $3.5M) be a better investment than the younger (and cheaper) Chaney or Fokou? Did anyone know that Tulloch would end up signing a cheap one-year deal (and that would be a better investment than developing Chaney or the other LBs)? Did anyone think the safeties were going to regress so badly that overpaying Mikell might have been worth it?

Also, why in the hell would the Eagles want to get rid of an All-Pro CB coming off his best season just because they got another two All-Pro (and at that, get rid of him for Quintin Mikell)? This is flawed logic. Mikell is good but Asante is better.

What I don’t think you realize is that you are assuming the facts today are the facts of yesterday, hence the ‘moral’. For example, Young was and still is the QB2; he didn’t play when Vick was hurt because he himself was hurt at the time. Kafka was inactive this past weekend and VY was not, which should hammer this point home.

And with that extra $4M in your alternate roster situation you would still have to sign a backup QB that isn’t shite and would have to replace at least one of the below-market signees (Smith or Brown) with crappier alternatives (Chad Hall and Eldra, anyone?) Not to mention that once these other moves are made you would have very little flexibility to bring on other guys.

These moves might have made the Eagles better in the short term but there would have been greater issues with depth and would have stunted rookie growth.

Also, hindsight is 20/20. (Have I mentioned this yet?)

I reject your reality and substitute my own.

by alcatraz0109 on Oct 12, 2011 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

You make good points re: the safeties, and admittedly I personally thought that Coleman and Allen would make a good starting combo this year. If both can stay healthy we will see if they can.

But if they weren’t going to resign Mikell they should have then gone after a vet linebacker. By definition— by virtue of their central position on the field— the guy who calls the plays and directs traffic on D has to be the MLB or a safety. They should have considered that after letting Mikell go, they’d be left with one third year player, three second year players, and one rookie to man the middle of the field in a brand new system. All of their veterans now are either down linemen or cornerbacks…

I can’t agree with you on Young or Smith either. Young brings you nothing really that Kafka doesn’t already have. This much was obvious in the summertime…. I wasn’t exactly jumping for joy at his signing. He played in a stone-age offense in Tennessee and he relied heavily on Chris Johnson and the defense to help him win games. If he was asked to drop back 50 times per game and make the kind of reads Reid/Morninwheg demand, he’d crash and burn. And I wouldn’t be so sure that Young is the 2nd stringer once again now just cuz he’s healthy…

As for Smith, the guy has been in on what, 20 snaps all season? He’s like a slower Jackson or Maclin clone; he brings nothing new to the lineup and again, this was obvious in the summertime. I’d honestly have rather seen Riley Cooper getting more time this year; at least he provides a nice big red zone target. Cooper is good enough to be the #2 or #3 receiver on most teams. We never needed Steve Smith.

by Kevin888 on Oct 12, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

As for Asante, it isn’t “flawed logic”, I already addressed the logic behind the move…

We didn’t HAVE to get rid of Asante, but if we wanted to switch to a more aggressive man defense with Asomugha, we had to get rid of Samuel because he weighs 160lbs and is soft as baby thighs. If we wanted to keep playing zone, then we could have kept Samuel but should have passed on the Asomugha sweepstakes. It’s really either or with those 2 guys.

And having Aso play man on one side while Asante plays zone on the other is easier said than done…. I guarantee you we will see offenses exploit such schemes this year by sending guys in motion, etc, to isolate weak spots on the field.

It’s funny really how Aso and Asante are the polar opposite archetypes for corner play….

Just goes to show you why Darrelle Revis is so valuable. Press man, off-man, cover 3, cover 2, shedding blocks, form tackling, open field tackling—- Revis can do it all and there is no weakness in his game.

by Kevin888 on Oct 12, 2011 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is angry math.
I read it and just get angry. Damnit.

Astra Inclinant, Non Necessitant

by EagleGreeninMD on Oct 12, 2011 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey, Vince, is that you?

So, if you look back and rewrite history, you could make a case for every one of the 32 teams to have a roster that, in your total ignorance, you could claim to be favorite to win SB.

You are a football genius.

"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson

by waterfield on Oct 12, 2011 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Doesnt help dwelling on what could have been

by EaglesRock on Oct 13, 2011 12:44 PM EDT reply actions  

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