Who Was The Worst Player On The Field Yesterday?
by JasonB on Oct 10, 2011 3:11 PM EDT
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We've been trying to do these gameball posts every Monday this season, but frankly I'm not liking the idea of praising people after each successive soul crushing loss. So like a desperate political campaign, we're going negative!
Cast your vote for the worst Eagle from Sunday's game. Here are the candidates.
Jason Avant - Hadn't lost a fumble since 2006 and lost two in truly embarrassing fashion on Sunday getting the ball taken right out of his hands. The last one was particularly damming for the Eagles hopes at a win.
Jarrad Page - Missed no less than four tackles in the game and generally just continued his terrible play that we've seen all season.
Michael Vick - In the end, he was the victim of some hard luck with the picks and he did do some great things, but he does have to take at least some of the blame for those four picks. The Avant one wasn't his fault at all, but he does take levels of blame for the others.
Juqua Parker - The whole freaking stadium knew the Bills were just trying to draw them offsides and he jumped. He jumped!
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Agreed.
"Descartes commanded the future from his study more than Napoleon did from his throne."
by Euler.is.a.Pimp on Oct 10, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Every time I look at this site today, I’m hoping to see the “Eagles cut Jarrad Page” headline. It’s a sad commentary on the state of affairs that cutting one of our starting safeties is the best thing I can think of to restore some glimmer of hope.
by Clyde Simmons 96 on Oct 10, 2011 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
This.
If he is still on the roster next week, every coach needs to get hit in the head.
Page is missing tackles yes but you know what the fact that the ball carrier is consistently getting to the level forcing Page to tackle constantly is the problem at least he’s around the ball. This whole team has trouble tackling I’m going with Parker he jumps on s play they knew was coming.
by ryanitus on Oct 10, 2011 3:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
In the NFL...
Safeties are extremely important. The safety (especially the STONG safety) has to diagnose run and then fill the gap “inside out”. Even if he doesn’t make a tackle, he has to be in position within 3-4 yards of the LOS to meet the RB and “flush” the runner in one direction so that the pursuit can catch him. The best safeties in the NFL regularly fly up and meet runners at the line of scrimmage.
Jarrad Page is not meeting runners until 7 or 8 yards downfield; he’s “catching” them as they run past him; he’s not even slowing runners down or forcing them horizontal. They’re tearing vertically right down the middle of the field so the pursuit has no chance. And of course Page never makes the tackle at the point of attack.
I am not an Eagles optimist, but you will see a BIG difference next week in run defense vs. the Redskins with Kurt Coleman at SS. Whether that will be enough to win, I cannot say.
Actually the majority of Page's missed tackles are coming within 5 yards of the Line of Scrimmage.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
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I went with Parker
Blaming Page at this point is like being mad at a dog for barking. It’s a dog, dog’s bark. Page is a bad player, bad player’s make bad plays.
Parker’s mistake was so egregious that it is absolutely unforgivable, and the fact that he is a 11 year vet just exponentially compounds the egregiousness of it.
hence blame Juan
for continually putting him in, knowingly as a bad player. Juan wins this award by this theory, worst player of the game – Coaching.
Why the hell did we run a play with 8 seconds before the half? Why didn’t the coaches say “whatever you do, don’t jump on the last play of the game” Why are the coaches putting in players like Page when they obviously blow? Coaches are the worst players of the game.
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You make some great points
hence blame Juan
I like this point.
Why the hell did we run a play with 8 seconds before the half?
Another great point. A lot.
Why didn’t the coaches say "whatever you do, don’t jump on the last play of the game"
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by So. Cal Swag on Oct 10, 2011 6:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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with my tits hanging out on this site, you would all subscribe.
"I'm Cracking Eggs of Wisdom!"
Hmmm... You make a very tempting offer,
but what makes your tits stand out compared to other tits?
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Just realized that was a rude and stupid question... Probably a little offensive.
I was just trying to be funny Eaglesgrl5, sorry about that.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Alright...
If we were face to face it would’ve been fine but once I reread what I wrote I was like “Fuck!”, it looks really bad.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Hello, Captain Obvious.
Anything else?
I come in peace. Neutrality is my thing.
Barry Sanders is better than Deion Sanders.
i forgot how many
smart asses wound up on this site.
This is like Joe_D on crack.
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 10, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Avant made the biggest mistakes but was not the worst player. You can argue he was the best player for the Eagles. The worst player was none other than Jarrad Page.
Avant was clutch yesterday. If it wasn’t for him, we would have been in deep shit offensively. He made 2 mistakes, other than that. He had a monster game.
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by JasonB on Oct 10, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Damn...
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Jarrad Page for sure
But Avant’s mistakes cost the Eagles the most offensively.
"I'm Cracking Eggs of Wisdom!"
I would be shocked if Page is still on this team after tomorrow. There’s just no point. You might as well bring in a guy, like Lawlor said, such as Jamar Adams.
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Oct 10, 2011 3:16 PM EDT reply actions
Tell us what you know spud!
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Ha, no rumors as of yet. Tuesday is usually when they bring players in to work them out, so I’d be surprised if the Eagles don’t bring a safety (or two, or three, or…) in tomorrow to do so.
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Oct 10, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
He could not possibly play worse than Page did yesterday. Nobody could. Physically impossible.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
Hell give Coleman the SS job, he looked better last season when he basically played as one.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Even if they cut Page entirely, we’re still full at that position with Colt Anderson. I think we would probably cut Page and activate Graham.
Page is leading the team in all tackles categories so it’s a little questionable to cut him out right. You have to have someone to step up and make those tackles otherwise the shit really hits the fan.
Doesn’t matter at this point. Cut his ass. Someone else will step up. Am I the only one who noticed when we went away from the wide 9 we started kicking their ass?
Oh god you are preaching to the choir there, don’t get me started, LOL. It happened last week too. We held the 49ers to 3 points last week after we narrowed up to stop the run. Then with the big lead in the 3rd quarter we spread out again and started going for sacks/QB hits and got burned big time.
Washburn needs to implement our system from last year or GTFO. Same for Mudd… need to start Jackson and stop fucking around. Peyton is not calling our offense, it needs to be simplified for Vick. Put big bodies in, stop the majority of the shit coming at Vick in the pocket and prosper. No more of this fancy “Kelce is mobile” bull shit. We don’t need him to be mobile.. just fucking take up space and don’t end up on your ass at the goal line!
That wasn’t the case. They had much tighter gaps all through this game than in previous weeks and the same issues were present.
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Well at least the Eagles recognized that the Wide Nine isn’t working… I’m not sure how you admit that it was changed/fixed but yet say it’s not a problem all in the same sentence. Nobody ever said the Wide Nine was the only problem… in fact, I think it created a lot of the other problems that we have now.
But removing the Wide Nine and going back to basics is the first step. Now DT/DE’s need to stop staring down the QB and get a hand on the RB before it’s at Asante’s level. Babin needs to make about twice as many tackles… look at all the run plays and just circle where Babin is on the field.. you’ll see a pattern. Trent Cole doesn’t allow that shit to happen… that’s why Cole is a probowl DE and Babin was cut. Washburn brought him back and brought back all his problems with it.
We held the Bills to 4.08 yards per carry if my math is correct. Our average over 5 games is 5.0 so that’s an improvement. If the CB/safeties could start trusting the DE/DT/LB positions to tackle then you’d see an improvement on the other areas of the game. Asante with 15 tackles and Page with 25 is why the Rush YPC was 5+ before the Bills game.
There are a few plays last week where Nnamdi ran about 30 yds from right side of the field to left side to make a tackle on a run play… that’s a lot to ask of a CB when you have 3 LB’s in the middle of the field completely oblivious. So nobody is saying that the Wide Nine is the ONLY problem. But REMOVING the Wide Nine allows the DE/DT to slow down/reroute the running plays which gives the LB/secondary players more time to get into position.
And the Wide Nine is still being used.. it wasn’t completely gone. We were spread out very wide on the QB sneak that went for 9 yards… that’s just a joke of a scheme right there.
No, they aren’t recognizing that its not working because it IS working. That isn’t the problem.
They didn’t change the Wide 9 the whole game. What they did change is that players started to maintain their gaps, the blitzed more, and they played more man.
Eagles: 1-4, I still have hope!
Flyers: Good start
Phillies: Sigh
We’re obviously watching different games. Even Jason said, “They had much tighter gaps all through this game than in previous weeks”. You all can keep arguing the same points… but nothing adds up. It’s a horrible, horrible defensive scheme for the Eagles and almost all other teams out there.
"Tighter gaps"
Meaning they moved the DT’s out a bit more and walked the LB’s up…
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I'm not wrong, you are.
Look at the close splits that the Bills use. They’re splits are about 1 foot apart (in simple terms the LG’s right foot is about 1 foot from the left foot of the center etc).
This naturally draws in the Eagles DE’s because the wide 9 is from the 9 technique which is outside of the TE/OT, not 9 yards away from the ball.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Look, I see how the LBers are closing the gaps and starting off on the line more.. that’s good. Maybe by the end of the season this will all be worked out. I envisioned Nnamdi replacing Dmitri in the secondary and this Eagles defense continuing the tradition of how we play defense. I don’t like the changes… they don’t fit our players… and Reid/Juan/Washburn won’t be here next year at this rate so all the points are mute.
The Wide Nine was a horrible, horrible decision for our personnel and each game we get less and less pressure on the QB as we move DE’s closer and have them focus on run stoppage. The lack of sacks are there, the stats are there… I’m really not sure what your argument is based on.
What?
Washburn will be here next year, unless the DL just completely tanks that man will stay and we’ll get a guy who’s smart enough to use the wide 9 to their advantage..
Also we didn’t move our DE’s in, Buffalo has smaller splits along the OL to make holes smaller for DT’s because they’re suspect as hell up the middle… That and Fitzpatrick’s quick release are what lead to the lack of sacks.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Not to mention...
That and Fitzpatrick’s quick release are what lead to the lack of sacks.
Not to mention other teams’ getting some film on how we line up and calling delayed draws and screen passes to neutralize it. In other words, other teams are doing to Washburn exactly what Howard Mudd learned to do to him. The only problem is we aren’t tackling behind it.
You are blaming the transmission of your car as the reason for not being able to drive it anywhere and discounting the four flat tires.
Why do people always think I'm playing the Race Card???
Is it because I'm black???
We never went away from the wide 9.
We walked the LB’s up into the gap and moved the DT’s right on the Guards.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
avant was terrible
but at least ALL of those players did stuff to WIN games…. a lot of players are going to make mistakes. The fact about page is he DID NOTHING to help win the game, he was just beaten like a two dollar hooker all game and he’s by far the worst safety we have had in awhile….
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by Joe_D on Oct 10, 2011 3:17 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Avant made 2 mistakes...
Page made like 10.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Avant played a pretty good game, I thought, caught some big passes. I realize he HAS to hold onto the football, but the Bills DBs are playing very physical this season and opportunistic.
by PineWoodsBillsFan on Oct 10, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
No, I'm saying Avant made 2 mistakes but Page made 10.
I’m sorry but I’ll take 2 mistakes from Avant here and there, the dude is Captain Clutch and keeps drives alive… Page’s play was atrocious.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Jarrad Page is one of the worst Eagles of recent memory. Just an abomination of a player. In fact, when I think of terrible Eagles that had to play a prominent role in the last decade… I’m really having a hard time thinking of any. Pinkston? A least he made a few plays here and there. Dimitri Patterson? Not even as bad as Page. OH! GOT ONE! MIKE MCMAHON. Congratulations, Jarrad Page. You’re not as bad as Mike McMahon.
On a side note, I thought Vick played really well, actually.
I really don’t see how they don’t cut him. I just don’t understand the point of even having him here anymore. Not only is he terrible, but he’s blocking young players like Coleman and Jarrett from getting needed playing time.
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Not a single redeeming quality about his game. Slow, awful awareness, can’t tackle. At least Jarrett can tackle, or so I’ve been told. How can it get worse?
I’m guessing (hoping, really) that tomorrow the Eagles will bring some safeties in to work out, and they’ll see someone good enough to replace Page.
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Oct 10, 2011 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
this is just stupid though
why give the spot to a new guy entering a fucked up system when Jaretts been seeing every fuck up every week…how the hell is he not a better option right now…
Just give the guy a shot…Watkins came around
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 10, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Should have made myself more clear. I’m saying to cut Page, start Jarrett, and bring in some S just for additional depth.
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Oct 10, 2011 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think he’s ready yet. They were talking about doing that after the BYE.
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Oct 10, 2011 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought they were activating him on the Bye,
then letting him come back that game after.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Don't need anybody.
Coleman/Jarrett are good enough to fill Page’s void…
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
That’s what I’m saying. Just stick Jarrett in there and let him learn on the field. Nate Allen saved a lot of long runs yesterday.
Did you notice late in the 4th quarter they went away from the wide 9 and the defense started kicking ass? That was the Eagles D that I was used to seeing.
I think the real change that caused us to kick theyre ass in the 4th was the fact that we started playing man to man.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 10, 2011 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
The changes?
- Obvious runs we had the DT’s on the OG’s (either shading or tight on them).
- Obvious runs we walked the LB’s up, worked great.
- Obvious runs we walked the SS up because Nate was going all studly for us.
The only time a DE lined up on or inside of a OT/TE was when it was like 3rd and 1, 4th and goal etc…
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Dude.
You’re completely wrong.
Not once did our DE’s line up on or inside of a OT. Not 1 single time. Zero. Nada. Didn’t happen…
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
I have never seen
a player take such bad angles when trying to get into position to make tackles.
Exactly. On the Bills’ first TD, he came into the backfield completely unblocked and just overshot the hand-off. I’m whole-heartedly on the “Blame Juan” bandwagon, but you can’t design things any better than to have your safety come flying in unblocked. Page is like a less-aware, less-talented version of Ernie Sims.
And the thing that gets me most of all is that we already knew this about Jarrad Page. DeSean’s long TD in the KC game in ’09 (punctuated by DeSean flipping into the end zone) was the product of Jarrad Page taking a terrible angle and turning a 20-yard gain into an 80-yard TD. We went out at picked up that guy and made him our starting strong safety. Brilliant.
by Clyde Simmons 96 on Oct 10, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Chris Gocong? Mike Bell?
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
"To catch them is my real test, to train them is my cause."
Gocong did some good things.
Mike Bell just didn’t play much
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That’s a good one, but I blame that as much on youth as anything else. Page has been a starter before but he just flat out blows.
Ed Snider is a crotchety old fuck.
That is all.
Sign Darren Sharper that is what they should do.
by ryanitus on Oct 10, 2011 3:57 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Jarrett should be ready to start by now.. you have to try that first and it should have been tried already.
Agree
This is just another way Reid and Castillo have failed.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
Nah
Gocong shouldn’t even be mentioned in the top 10 in this category. He had a couple decent seasons. Wasn’t great, but he did some nice things.
Some other recent names that come to mind:
Macho Harris (h/t cin7)
Ernie Sims
Jerome McDougle (probably unfairly due to injuries)
Dimitri Patterson (h/t JimmyK)
Quintin Demps
But Jarrad Page easily takes the cake.
Addition
Macho was sort of shoved in there as a rookie and wasn’t that terrible.
Considine has got to be on this list though. Has to!
If I was at a presser..
I’d be asking Andy ‘Where in the fuck is Jarrett when you have Page out there looking like he got caught jerking off?’
Byahhh!
by begforme4484 on Oct 10, 2011 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Busted!!
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
“Well, listen, uh, (cough) we’ll look at the tape, we’ll evaluate it, and we’ll do what we always do. Jarrad Page has done some good things. Jarrett is a tough kid, helluva player. We’ll see how it goes here.”
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Oct 10, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Better or worst than CC Brown?
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
I'd rather have McMahon playing SS for us than Page.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Do you guys believe in reincarnation?
because im starting to…..
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I honestly don’t know who is worse…
by Bleeding_Green_Eagle on Oct 10, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Jarrad Page is worse.
Ernie Sims had at least one good/decent game (Colts game).
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Oct 10, 2011 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Jarrad Page is worse. Easily.
Ernie was pretty bad. But he was able to keep his job all season and showed glimpses at times.
Sims was a shark in the water. Page is a Baby Ruth in the pool.
"Even those invested in the idea that the journey is the destination may feel they've taken a train to nowhere." - Terry Lawson
by waterfield on Oct 10, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
A shark on land is still scary, just not effective at all.
Byahhh!
by begforme4484 on Oct 10, 2011 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Lol thats the first one liner that hit home hard regarding Sims
"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that."-Bill Shankly
Dont mind my typos, trying to be sneaky at work like the rest of you
Jarrad Page wins
Because instead of making just one or even a handful of awful plays on Sunday, he made dozens of them.
Anyone else notice Desean is on pace for a career high in yards and catches? Honestly having a quiet good season.
by Bleeding_Green_Eagle on Oct 10, 2011 3:39 PM EDT reply actions
As a Bills fan....
…having attended the game and then re-watching it at home, I think Asante Samuel and the Center (Nesce?) should be added to the poll.
Samuel doesn’t look like he wants to make tackles.
Nesce was brutal in the middle of that O-Line.
by PineWoodsBillsFan on Oct 10, 2011 3:43 PM EDT reply actions
Kelce, lol. Mudd and Washburn are both on my shitlist.. I think they should be gone before Reid. Both position coaches have made that part of our team worse than it was last year. DE/DT position is making so few tackles it’s a joke. And the OL could be a ton better with Peters/Mathis/Jackson/Watkins/Herremans… look at that size!
As for Asante, he is 3rd on our team for tackles. Then people wonder why he’s not making interceptions or jumping routes. It’s hard to jump routes when every other play is a run that goes right through our DLine untouched.
Its Kelce
and Samuel def had an "off"game, but hands down I honestly thought Page was playing for you guys.
Men judge generally more by the eye than by the hand, for everyone can see and few can feel. Every one sees what you appear to be, few really know what you are-Il Principe
I would go to battle any time with these guys-MV7
If there's a Nesce jersey around
give it to Juqua. That way, he may be able to avoid being killed the next time he plays at home.
Kelce is the name you’re looking for. Apparently he didn’t have a great game yesterday according to @PFF_John.
[Kelce did not have a good game]: (-4.4). Allowed 2 hits (one an INT) and a pressure. -1.8 in run game.
by PhiladelphiaEagles on Oct 10, 2011 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
He hasn’t had a good game yet and he’s undersized. Mudd is famous from his stint at Indy where he benefited from Peyton calling out pass protection as if he was an O-coord. Washburn was in Tennessee where you have probowl MLBs making 10+ tackles a game. Eagles imported both Mudd and Washburn but we don’t have Peyton or Tulloch… see the result? It really wasn’t hard to predict.. many people did before the season even started.
Another example is Bobby April who benefited from Devin Hester… look at our Kickoff returns to the 15 yd line… fucking pathetic.
most of the ones I saw Dion take out were to the 20-21 yard line. Most of those were froma few yards deep in the endzone. Take away the new rule and most kicks would be pretty good…
We're ranked 30th in Kickoff Return Average and 29th in Longest Return
All the teams are playing under the same rules… no excuses.
Yup, Dion clearly isn’t a kick returner, which I’m sure came as a complete shock to everyone…
by philiafan14364 on Oct 10, 2011 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
The sad part is...
We easily could’ve signed Tulloch. He went to Detroit for a very reasonable price.
by Novembre on Oct 10, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jamal Jackson?
Is Jamal Jackson still on this team?
He’s healthy too. Mudd is retarded, he thinks Peyton is still calling out his pass protection for him at the line.
Jackson has been a solid player for this team for years. IDK why they sticking with an undersized center that is getting pushed around around every week.
The smaller guys aren't necessarily the problem, although I'd prefer bigger dudes on the O line
Shanny ran an ultra-productive offense for years using the smallest O line in the league…they could run it and pass it. Something in the way our offense meshes with Mudd’s system is creating problems
yup
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by ShadyMcVickFactor on Oct 10, 2011 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions
yea, vick's 3rd pick
it looked like Kelce took a guy that was already being blocked and let someone go right through at vick untouched
He absolutely did
and it wasn’t the only time yesterday where he doubled up on a guy being blocked only to have someone else come at Vick completely free.
That INT was on a screen where they literally jammed and released, not on Kelce.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
100% agree on Asante
It’s Asante. If it were anyone else, he would have been benched and would lose his starting job. Page wins, but at least he got to the ball-carrier and was trying to tackle. Asante was always behind his guy and then wouldn’t even try to catch-up (he’s still got speed when he wants to use it). He’s a big baby and probably the main reason we don’t play man coverage more. If you watch the TD’s from the 49ers game, you see Asante jogging in after every one (except when he was on someone’s back). He did the same thing yesterday. He’s the Ricky Watters of Defense.
Me: Hey Revis, what do you think of Asante?
Revis: Slouch…Soft. I’m the one with the “big play makin’ ability.”
Trade him. For picks, or some LBs.
by Rob Crawford on Oct 10, 2011 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Asante is 3rd on the team in tackles… I’ve got about 10 better names of people who are slouching in the effort department if you want to hear them?
Well, my point isn’t really stats. Page had 14 missed tackles (and he stinks), but it’s misleading because the ballcarrier shouldn’t have gotten to page that many times.
Anyway, I respect your point and Asante’s tackles. But you can’t seriously tell me Asante was trying his best these past 2 games. I’m not saying others are playing better, but takes plays off. I know he jumps routes, but it’s like he doesn’t try to recover.
The guy has been on the team and is a vet pro-bowler. If he’s not a captain, he ought to be. He’s never liked to wrap up, he takes plays off, and he’s the epitome of a diva who takes plays off.
by Rob Crawford on Oct 10, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Asante’s my favorite player so I’m biased. I know he’s probably getting traded after this season anyway because of his salary/age so it sucks to hear it now, lol.
But Juan is not using Asante correctly right now.. just like Nnamdi isn’t in press coverage 100% of the time like he should be.
When we got Nnamdi I always assumed you’d have Nnamdi in press on the right side 1 on 1 and Asante on the left side with safety help. That seems like a no brainer to me.
I have a question regarding if thats even possible
lets say Nnamdi is in press an on the right, with Asante in zone ( if that’s even what you’re suggesting). If both wideouts do slant routes, Nnamdi would follow his man while Asante would let his go and stay on his side of the field, right? My question is that if that happened, wouldn’t Nnamdi/Asante both be on one side of the field on one WR, while the other is wide open where Nnamdi started?
Asante would play man too, just not press. The whole idea is to let them both do what they do best. Asante would play man but give him free-reign to jump routes because he’ll have safety help behind him. Than stack the box and dare opponents to throw the ball.
I think the reason so many people are frustrated to Juan is that he seems be implementing a scheme and hoping the players fit it rather than tailor a scheme to the players and their talents.
No one will fault him if he leaves Nnamdi 1-on-1 on the outside almost the entire game to add an extra defender inside the box.. That’s the performance level one would expect from Nnamdi.
Kelce, yes thanks. On the Nick Barnett pick for six in the 2nd quarter, Kelce missed his assignment allowing Bills LB Sheppard to rush through middle right into Vick’s grill, Vick tried to get the ball away and threw it right to Barnett.
by PineWoodsBillsFan on Oct 10, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Vick still should have taken the sack.
Byahhh!
by begforme4484 on Oct 10, 2011 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Vick and Avant - Nowhere near Page's level of suckitude
They both made some great plays and some bad ones. Again, the final pick was as much Vick’s fault as it was Avant’s. If you saw the angle from behind the offense, Avant was stretched out and still it barely hit his finger tips…as he is being hit. It would have been an incredible grab if he caught it. Yet, it would have not been an incredible throw for a QB to hit an open receiver in the chest on a 3 yard out.
Also, we are giving Vick a bit too much credit by calling his INT’s “unlucky.” The first one was a tipped ball. It was tipped because Vick tried to throw it past a D lineman’s head. That is not so unlucky. That is a mistake. The final pick was not a great throw. From 3 yards away, he should be able to hit Avant in the numbers. Now, if it bounces off Avant’s chest, then that becomes a flukey INT.
At the same time, there is no comeback at all if it was not for Vick. The game ends in a blowout. The same could be true of Avant. So it is hard to put either one of them in this category. In the case of Page and Parker, they never made any good plays to help the team so they are deserving of being on this list.
Because the announcers didn’t call him out. JP’s name got shit on by basically every announcer from Boomer to Billick… as he deserved. But JP mistake is fixable… Page seems like he’s permasuck.
Oh trust me. I’ve never screamed louder after that dumb offsides penalty by JP. But I can at least realize the bigger picture. And that is that Page was just atrocious all game long. JP just made one bad decision (granted one of the worst single decisions I’ve seen in a long time)
I was at that game, so I had no idea what even happened. At the game you don’t see everything, so you sit there for a few mins more confused than anything. I’m sure if I saw the Ronnie Brown play on TV, I would’ve been going nuts.
But you have a good point, that was probably a dumber (and more costly) decision than JP’s offsides.
vick was due a bad game
and the eagles can’t win even when he plays well. so this award goes to someone else.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Oct 10, 2011 3:53 PM EDT reply actions
Vick wasn't even that bad
I really only give one of those INT’s to him. Maybe 2. But I didn’t think he was all that bad.
The only one that was really his fault, at least to me,
was the pick-6. That was a very errant throw, but you have to consider he still had a defender charging at him untouched. That was the only one that I consider fair to even call his fault. The 1st was bad luck, 2nd he was not only under pressure but he was being hit hard as he threw it, the 3rd I covered already and the 4th, avant could have had that ball.
Okay, reality check. The reason Vick comes under pressure as much as he does has much less to do with his offensive line (which honestly is not all that bad) as it does his habit of holding on to the ball too long in the pocket — over a full second longer than the NFL average, last I looked, and I doubt yesterday’s game lowered that number.
When a QB hangs on to the ball that long, he had BETTER be able to make smart decisions under extreme pressure a split-second before being pancaked. Kurt Warner could famously do it. Jeff Garcia could do it. Ben Roethlisberger can do it. To be honest, even Donovan in his prime could do it a little better (but ony a little) than Vick, and that’s really something to be concerned about.
I think Eagles’ fans need to stop giving Vick a free pass because the O-line is a work in progress. Just because a driver totals his car every other month doesn’t mean it’s the automakers’ fault.
vick is the only reason the eagles have one win
he may have had some bad plays yesterday but….
HE IS NOT THE PROBLEM!
by andyfrombrooklyn on Oct 10, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
ummm... no mention of Juqua Parker?
I come in peace. Neutrality is my thing.
Barry Sanders is better than Deion Sanders.
umm yes, there is.
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Consadine anyone?
I dont remember Sean Consadine being as bad as Page, maybe we can work him out..lol
worst to best
1. page
2. Parker
3. Avant- played good but the fumble is inexcusable, and he could have had that pass that turned into an interception
and 4, Vick who wasn’t even close to as bad as the others. I actually thought Vick played really good. You could easily argue that 3 of his 4 picks, if not all of them, were not his fault. He looked good running the ball and alot of his passes were good.
Remember when we all laughed at KC Joyner...
For calling Vick lucky last year? And him saying that he expects Vick to return to the mean this year? Seem prophetic now.
I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.
Did he really say that about Avant and Maclins fumbles? I’m just assuming you have a typo in there when you said Vick was lucky.
He was talking about ...
Vick only throwing 7 interceptions last year.
I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.
by no1pipelayer on Oct 10, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Am I the only one who thought Vick played great yesterday?
he played threw pain the entire game. Take away the picks that weren’t on him and he looked good. I just don’t understand that you think he has returned to the mean. Obviously he isn’t throwing 4 TDs a game but you can’t expect him to have kept up that pace. Maybe I’m missing something but he’s still a great quarterback
Joyner was saying return to the mean luck wise
Last year Vick had a lot of balls dropped by DBs and when balls were tipped they allways seemed to fall harmlessly to the turf. This year the DBs are holding on to the ball and when the ball is tipped someone is waiting to snach it up.
I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.
by no1pipelayer on Oct 10, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I get it,
but yesterday was about unlucky as you can get. A tipped ball INT, the 2nd one vick got rocked and the defender turned around with barely nay time to react and the ball fell right in his hands, and the last one should have been caught by his WR. Vick may have gotten somewhat lucky last year and that may not keep up, but yesterday wasn’t “the mean” in terms of luck. It was on the opposite end of the spectrum
don't bother answering this crap
this kc joyner stuff is part of the anti vick spiel. it ignores all that vick accomplishes and recreates history only from a what if that hadn’t been dropped by the defender ignoring there is a flip side what if that hadn’t been dropped by the receiver. like" vick can’t read blitzes" that took hold after torching the giants for three fourth quarter touchdowns.
the guy is the most exciting player on the field. maybe if his receivers would stop handing the ball to defenders his ints would be less? no?
by andyfrombrooklyn on Oct 10, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Parker
To be a 30-something year old NFL veteran and fall for that obvious shit where they’re trying to draw you offsides is fucking pathetic
Last name Ever
First name Greatest
Pay DeSean Jackson
I have been an Eagles fan since the days of Randy Logan...
and I have never seen worse safety play.
I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.
On the glass half full side of things...
EaglesInsider Head coach Andy Reid said on his Coach’s Show on 94WIP that Nate Allen played his best game as an #Eagle on Sunday.
Was he serious or was he just comparing him to Page? LOL
I actually thought Allen did play good
had some nice tackles. Two that come to mind are when he was all over the screen and planted the guy as he caught it, and the one where he came all the way up to midfield during the play to follow the tight end (I think) and make the tackle to force a fourth down.
Dude, did you even watch the game?
If you can’t see that Nate Allen had a fucking FANTASTIC game on Sunday then you have issues. Easily the best player on our Defense that game.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Oh, well with the way everybody's been acting and with all the new guys
I can’t tell sarcasm from the real shit because it’s all about the same.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
agreed.
simple conversation and intellect has gone out the window now.
"I'm Cracking Eggs of Wisdom!"
Exactly, it's annoying actually.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Exactly, it's annoying actually.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
My only beef is with time clock management, the wide nine, and the poor usage of nnamdi/asante in the secondary. Other than that I’m still a die hard eagles fan. And right now making fun of Andy Reid is about all the fun we can make out of this season. :]
Wide 9 isn't a problem. Nnamdi and Asante were used better.
Clock Management shouldn’t be an issue if our team plays how it should be.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Tell us how you really feel, Jason!
Can’t remember ever seeing you like this.
"When life hands you lemons, make a profit." - Chet Cashley
"Float like a Butterfly, sting like a Bee; Make sure you got the ball in your hands, or else you won’t get a TD." - Joe Theismann
wasn't our main problem last year basically patterson?
at 1 point we only needed a corner. we got nnamdi and dom roger-cro. so how the f*&% did we get worse on D. And we need to obviously pay desean because when he gets going it seems like the whole team plays better.
I guess losing Bradley hurts more than we thought
it would at the time. Also, teams are obviously attacking our LB’s more than last year because they are our clear weak spot. Maybe we still weren’t that good at stopping the run last year but offenses just focused on attacking patterson
Wide Nine
And Juan defensive scheme. Nnamdi isn’t playing man, the LB have a bigger responsibility and the D Line holes are just way too big.
by Bleeding_Green_Eagle on Oct 10, 2011 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
We lost one of the best safeties in the NFL (Mikell) and replaced him with the absolute worst.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 10, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I felt that voting once on Page wasn't enough
So I voted on him three times
Voted for vick
cuz i thought he just wasn’t making good decisions with the ball when you got maclin desean and mccoy you shouldn’t throw it to avant 15 times
So throwing it to a guy that had 130+ yards is dumb?
by Bleeding_Green_Eagle on Oct 10, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Got a lot of love for my man Avant but....
the two straight fumbles are inexcusable just fucking piss poor. It seems like that defines are season right now man, so much talent but where are your freaking brains?!?!?!
2010-2011 is a great year for sneaker heads.
Avant, Page & Parker..
Three way tie.
Avant’s play as impactful as it was physically (in a positive sense), mentally it was a disaster. That fumble, deadly. Fighting for yards while the defender was blatantly stripping at the ball. IMO, he’s not going to out run anyone, and he had three defenders in pursuit after the catch and his initial shake. Should have went down. The interception, caused by his drop… Another effort play; but he should have caught the pass initially.
That fumble, again, was partly LeSean’s fault.
Page, missed tackle after missed tackle. I saw it w/ Coleman in the Giants game, I saw it against the Bills w/ Page; wrap the fcuk UP. And on the play in the redzone when he blitzed and was just so centered on the Quartetback… You’re coached this in the high school and college ranks, so I know they emphasize it in the league, play the fcuk under control. They’ll give Coleman the start against the Skins before they turn it over to Jarrett; but I’d damn sure love to see this ‘intelligent’ high-round pick in action.
Not to mention, didn’t Castillo say that the safeties were as integral, as any position on defense in his scheme? In terms of their main role being assisting in run defense? That seems like Jaiqwan’s calling card #shrugs.
& Parker for the obvious. He robbed us of our last shot, point blank.
'Study long. ... Study wrong. ..' Chad Butler
by Illadelphia-Braintrust on Oct 10, 2011 8:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
J. Page
by a landslide….he is what charles barkley would call “TURRIBLE”…seriously, is jarrett suckin so bad at practice that the coaches won’t play him (let alone have him active) – im all for cutting page and having him arrested for impersonating an nfl player….i dont know who’s out there at safety, but i want them to let jarrett get a shot. I dont think vick played that bad- i know 4 int’s are horrible, but i dont think they were all his fault imo-
"Suck my Vick"
"Go for it on 4th and 1?" No Andy I said I hope those whores are done...whores meaning tasty pies of course...it's normal to call pastries whores right?"
"Hire Juan as DC?" No Andy, I said I hope making flan is easy...those whores sure do look good in the bakery"
"Give the ball to Owen Schmitt at the goal line twice?".....yea i said that....my bad...."
by AndyReidsConscience on Oct 10, 2011 8:18 PM EDT reply actions
I have to admit...
…I was REALLY wrong about Page. He has the athleticism but has been a nightmare at safety. How many positions have we benched a player at already this year?
Kurt Coleman? Benched
Jarrad Page? Benched
Kyle DeVan? Benched
Casey Matthews? Benched TWICE.
It’s coming up on Week 6 and we still don’t know who are consistent starters are.
Why do people always think I'm playing the Race Card???
Is it because I'm black???
When’s it going to be time to bench the Wide Nine and see if the players can play regular football gaps like they were trained to do for the previous 10+ years of their careers?
Jeff_McLane Reid said he’s sticking with the wide nine scheme up front on defense.
LesBowen Reid: Wide nine worked in the second half, better tackling.
I’d argue the first point as Jason and others have said.. the gaps between DE/DT/DT/DE looked narrower this week and parts of last week when we were doing better against the run.
And for the 2nd point, better 1 on 1 tackling is no solution for a scheme that puts tacklers in 1 on 1 situations way too often. This Wide Nine scheme doesn’t emphasize a rushing of people to the ball. It spreads people out to better rush the QB. That’s flawed to the max.
How was Matthews benched twice? He was moved because all 3 LB's were struggling
so they wanted to move Fokou and Chaney to their more natural positions.
Defensive player of the year for 2011 is...
Wild_Eagle!
Yes, Wild_Eagle's infamous reputation did help him get this award. But he shows that he walks the talk that he serves...with his keyboard. Wild_Eagle protects the motherland (BGN) from the evils of noobs, douche-bags, and other assholes. Although he may be crude and unnecessary, all great defenders draws the yellow flag from time to time.
-Awarded by Number5
Wild_Eagles’ Heart is scarier than Hell, you lose. - d-jackfan10 at the troll known as vicksuck!
Okay...that's how you look at it.
I prefer to look at it the CORRECT way. This is a factual timeline:
A: Chaney finished last year as the starting MLB.
B: His only competition for MLB was not re-signed.
C: Matthews, despite not playing a down, was given the MLB starting role.
D: Matthews struggled mightily…and even his mother was calling for his head. (Okay, maybe not the last part)
E: Chaney and Fokou, who both also looked worse than last year, were put back in the positions they had success in from last year.
F: Matthews was moved to the weakside, something he made into an adjective, not a noun.
G: He was promptly beaten on a wheel route by arguably one of the slowest backs in the NFL.
H: He wasn’t in the starting lineup anymore.
Now you tell me where my timeline is wrong.
Why do people always think I'm playing the Race Card???
Is it because I'm black???
Thanks Jason!
I thought it was kind of pointless to hand out game balls when we suck and are losing. I’m not much of a pessimist…BUT let’s face it, these guys are not exactly deserving of much respect anymore. Parker jumping offsides is inexcusable. Period. It was the nail in the coffin. But we were dead long before that. Page…on the other hand, is dirt! His complete lack of effort should have earned him a bus ticket back to Philly. He didn’t have a momentary brain fart…he had a complete lack of purpose!
Put this Bad Mamma Jamma in!!
http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=US#/watch?v=mnCQkoIZOFg
by SPEaglesFan on Oct 10, 2011 10:40 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Ugh
Plain and simple they are playing like trash. Arm tackling and jogging around giving 60% effort won’t win a ball game in this league. Dream team, crap team, all pro team…. doesnt matter who you are if you don’t play as a unit with a passion, and we just aren’t seeing this consistently. I had the luxury of coming back up from Florida to catch the game with a rowdy group of family and had a great “Miracle 2” expectation, watching the second half performance. The JP mistake was the “Straw on a Camel” type of deal but still a very frustrating high school type mistake! Page is a bum! I assume he looks great in practice thus gaining himself the starting NOD, but no good on gameday. I love the Colt Anderson tenacity and drive but feel all around that Coleman is the guy to start back there. He will make mistakes… TOUGH! He is a competitor and a HELL of a tackler! I feel Rolle may mature into an anchor on D!(Hopefully sooner than later) REPS will show. I haven’t had tons of time to read through forums or research but has anyone inspected the last game tape to see how many missed tackles we had? Also how many yards after contact? It’s a known fact you want to see tons of your color jerseys around the ball every play even in Peewee football. I thought I saw tons of green around the ball but time and time again the ball carrier emerging for 2,3,4 more yards! Sickening to say the least. I’d hate to see Reid go, but the preseason gave us super bowl expectations, and we may miss the whole freakin’ playoffs? What to do….?
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