Is Micky D (McDermott) the problem?
by number5 on Jan 5, 2011 1:43 AM EST
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The last of Jim Johnson's protégés. Sean McDermott replaced the late Jim Johnson in the off-season of 2009 (RIP). McDermott has been with the Eagles since 1998, as a Scouting Administrative Coordinator. And in 1999 to 2009 a defensive assistant, working with the secondary and linebackers before becoming DC. So taking over the Eagles defense in 09 wasn't a foreign territory. However, since the 09 season, there has become two "factions" within the BGN community over the work/success of the first time defensive coordinator.
Here are just a few references to my statement.
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2011/1/3/1912031/eagles-employment-opportunity
Our defense. (ugh). How can we do any worse. LOL. We can build off that performance yesterday. I have NO faith in McDermott and I personally think he is awful and has no symbol to his coaching. I personally think he will scheme simlar to what people have been doing to Vick. Contain blitz.
You try having a good defense with no rotation guys at DE, at Will LB who is a loser, have to start to 7th round rookies and Dmitiri Patterson opposite Asante Samuel
. Give him credit, this the best our Run D has been in a long time. He prepared Jamar Chaney
by MidwesternEaglesfan on Jan 3, 2011 11:22 AM PST reply actions
I've said this before and got creamed for it on here.
We need guys in there to close a pocket and get some push. Dixon seems to have what it takes. I hate this small ass D we play with. I dont see the point of it at all.
I know, I know small fast guys. Thats bull shit . It worked when JJ was here because he was a blitzing guru. " I miss the hell out of that guy" .
I want a real defence coordinator. and a real grown man, NFL sized, defence. You can wash 1/2 the D and it wouldnt hurt my feeling at all. I’ve been spoon fed this small high motor guy crap too long. " Besides Trent ColeHe’s a Beast".
Our guys are so small it take like 1/2 the team to take guys down. How many arm tackles have you seen other teams run right through. Tons.Sorry I know I went off topic but I got caught up in the who D thing.
by greenage on Jan 3, 2011 10:23 AM PST reply actions
So is the young DC really the problem?
Lets look at his defensive stats the past two seasons with the Eagles
Eagles D 2010
- Rank :12
- Points Total: 377
- Yds/play: 5.2
- Rank vs run: 15th
- Rushing Yards: 1,766
- Average Rush: 4.2
- Rushing TD: 12
- Passing Rank: 14th
- Completion Percentage: 57.6
- Passing Yards: 3,469
- Average Pass: 7.0
- Yds/Game: 216.8
- TD: 31
- Int: 21
- 20+ plays: 54
- 40+: 9
- Sacks: 39
Eagles D 2009
- Rank :12
- Points Total: 337
- Yds/play: 5.0
- Rank vs run: 9th
- Rushing Yards: 1,625
- Average Rush: 4.1
- Rushing TD: 11
- Passing Rank: 17th
- Completion Percentage: 61.0
- Passing Yards: 3,462
- Average Pass: 6.5
- Yds/Game: 216.4
- TD: 27
- Int: 25
- 20+ plays: 46
- 40+: 6
- Sacks: 44
From these two seasons, the Eagles have consistent numbers when allowing passing and rushing plays. However, the two big differences is the TD:INT ratio and 20+ plays. Also the number of points difference is large as well. But when it comes to the yards yearly and average yards, they are consistent under McDermott. Now the bigger question is how do these stats line up against the great JJ?
I chose two seasons to look at from JJ; the 2008 season and the 2004 season. In, 2008 we had the best defense ever under JJ and in 2004 we went to the Superbowl.
Eagles D 2008 (JJ)
- Rank :3
- Points Total: 289
- Yds/play: 4.4
- Rank vs run: 4th
- Rushing Yards: 1,476
- Average Rush: 3.5
- Rushing TD: 7
- Passing Rank: 3rd
- Completion Percentage: 58.1
- Passing Yards: 2,913
- Average Pass: 6.7
- Yds/Game: 187.3
- TD: 23
- Int: 22
- 20+ plays: 47
- 40+: 8
- Sacks: 48
These are amazing stats and remember these are JJ's best with the Eagles. We know that McD's rushing numbers are crazy similar. The averages are really different, but the total yards allowed isn't as big of a gap. This shows that McD is handling the run well, b/c the average is very inflated b/c it depends on how well they do each game vs the run rather than consistently. However the passing yards are night and day as well as the TD:INT ratio. Under JJ these are phenomenal in 08. However, two stats I really like are the 20+ plays as well as the average pass. They are crazy similar. The average pass is again inflated (in worth/importance) but still interesting.
Now 2004
Eagles D 2004
- Rank :10
- Points Total: 260
- Yds/play: 4.9
- Rank vs run: 16th
- Rushing Yards: 2,903
- Average Rush: 4.3
- Rushing TD: 13
- Passing Rank: 12th
- Completion Percentage: 60.7
- Passing Yards: 3,212
- Average Pass: 6.3
- Yds/Game: 200.8
- TD: 16
- Int: 17
- 20+ plays: 45
- 40+: 6
- Sacks: 47
Compared two McD's two seasons these look really really close. Everything is really close. The only huge differences are total points, TD:INT ratio, and 20+ plays. However the difference is connected to the CB play this season. No matter how well they coach, these numbers are based now how they play. Inconsistent RCB play this year explains the larger amounts of points, TD:INT ratio, and 20+ plays. Patterson shows up against the Colts and Redskins and blows against the Giants and Vikings. 2009 these numbers are even more similar to 2004 (the exception being total points) which can be linked to consistent right corner play (Sheldon Brown).
Looking at the difference between the secondary of 04/08 and 2010
LCB: Asante Samuel
RCB: Sheldon Brown/Lito Sheppard (Before suckage)
FS: Brian Dawkins
SS: Quintin Mikell/(Michael Lewis)
2010
LCB: Asante Samuel
RCB:D. Patterson/J. Hanson/T. Lindley
FS: N. Allen/K. Coleman
SS: Quintin Mikell
Although young and talented, 2004/2008 were savy vets that were at the top of their game and knowledgeable in our scheme. Therefore, Sean McDermott is doing a good job. Can he do better? Yes. Do we need some help this off-season? Yes. Do our LB's kinda suck and allow the secondary to take the blame in the pass game? Yes. The point is this isn't all Micky D's fault. He is a good coach.
If you still think Micky D isn't a good coach who would you rather have that is available and why?
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People just need to chill out with Opie. He went from an old, injury ridden team to a young, undisciplined team in his two seasons as a DC. Give it some time and I think that he’ll prove to be a good DC.
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
This is exactly what I was going to say
minus the cursing.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.
It’s one thing to have young, inexperienced players and struggle a bit but the worst red zone defense in 25 fuckin’ years, my friend. The Panthers are better in the redzone than us. No excuse. A lot of his play calling and personnel management are absolutely horrible. We were bad last year and after the additions of Allen, Graham, Tapp, Bradley, Sims, the improved play of Dixon, Mikell, and Asante, we get worse? I’m willing to wait one more year but the calling for him to be fired is definitely warranted.
Defense surrendered 27 to the Packers, 32 to the Lions, 24 to the Niners, 37 to the Titans, 24 to the Colts, 28 to the Redskins, 31 to the Bears, 24 to the Texans, 27 to the Cowboys, 31 to the Giants, and then 24 to the Joe Webb led Vikings.
That’s 11 out of 16 games surrendering 24+ points.
very true, under mcd we have allowed over 300 points per season
but more stability in pass coverage in both the linebackers and corners will fix this
Eff age, were winning now!
A lot has to do with the size of our defense. Obviously our D was built for speed, so the red zone is gunna be an obvious problem when everyone is so damn small.
I’m on the fence with McD, I get really frustrated during games just like everyone else, but in hindsight (with all these stats involved) it doesn’t seem like he’s doing that bad. The amount of points given up per game is what really pisses me off too.
"Get 'Em"
panthers are better in the RZ because ppl score at will on them, they never have to get to the redzone.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.
Uh, you have to be in the redzone to measure redzone defense bud. Eagles give up a TD in the redzone 76.74% of the time. Panthers, 48.48%. In comparison, last year Eagles were at 56.14%.
I realize that's bad, however how much of it has to do with the fact
we’re undersized at every position except DT and maybe MLB (when Bradley is in there)?
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.
Our defense is generally solid everywhere except for the redzone. Whenever teams get in our redzone, they generally score, but they don’t get there too often. Sometimes McDermott pisses me off just because I think he should start some players over the ones he plays, but his gameplan is generally decent.
He's slick, he's quick, he's Michael Vick.
I’m miles ahead of you two hacks when it comes to online toughness and throwing down from behind my computer.- DickMuffin
Honestly I don't think this teams ever very good in the RZ, probably in the 20's normally (if I remember correctly)
and McDermott does have some very good game plans when the D is healthy, I honestly think he’s having to compensate for having a rookie at MLB and FS and that hole at RCB rather than call the game how he’d like.
Here’s some of the Con’s I see with McDermott then how to fix them:
#1. Doesn’t normally make the right calls when they need to be made. (pulling Hobbs in favor of Patterson, not blitzing when he needs to, and being aggressive when he should just slow the game down and make smart choices)—- Now this has to do with experience, as he gets wiser in the art he’ll realize I need to pull Hobbs in order to save the team, I need to blitz next time Eli has the ball on 3rd and 10 instead of laying back and trying to prevent something from happening and failing, next time I should drop all 3 Lb’s to cover instead of bringing the house… This stuff has to do with experience.
#2. He sometimes tries to put players into positions they cannot make the play on, ex: Sims blitzing, Sims is the worst blitzing LB I’ve seen, he just runs around in a circle and the OT let’s him do it. ex2: Bradley in coverage, Bradley needs to blitz more than cover.—- Once again that’s just him trying to change things up I think, he needs to evaluate what his players strengths and weaknesses, and I’ll tell you what it’d help Bradley and Sims more if he just Blitzed Bradley and dropped Sims into coverage, covers their weaknesses and magnify’s their strengths.. Simple, that’s something Juron (spelling im sure) and even Reid can teach him.
#3. Taking chances. I feel like McDermott takes chances to little, he plays a safe type of game, I’d rather with this D us go after somebody, at this point if we get burned we get burned, if we hit home we absolutely destroy somebody—- He needs to quit playing conservatively, he’s trying to protect Chaney and the other questionmarks, at this point they’ve been here for months now, if they can’t make the play they just can’t at this point, but we don’t know if Chaney can be force as a blitzer, we don’t know truly how complete a safety Coleman is, we honestly don’t know how well Patterson can play (ask and I’ll explain) just take the chances of matching our CB’s up in Man against Driver and Jennings and let Coleman play center field..
Now here’s what i like about him and why:
#1. He does trust his players a lot.—- Thus his players trust him, I don’t see anybody on that defense quit, and I like that, they get beat like pinata in the first half then come out and shut people down in the 2nd half.
#2. His in game adjustments (and halftime adjustments)—- McDermott gets zero credit for the 5 come from behind wins, and athough it’s Vick and the Offense that puts the points up, it’s his defense that ends up getting the ball back or forcing a 3 and out. And for the most part the D did shut down the Giants in the 7 minutes of (Philly) Heaven.
#3. He’s actually showing some improvement, from this year to now he’s shown a lot of growth and he’s relying on his depth.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.
He does manage in-game better than some of the other coaches we have. I agree with your Sims and Bradly comment. Sims has been somewhat disappointing because he doesn’t really seem to know what he’s doing sometimes, he’s out of his element. He’s incredibly athletic, but he’s not being used to his full potential yet.
He's slick, he's quick, he's Michael Vick.
I’m miles ahead of you two hacks when it comes to online toughness and throwing down from behind my computer.- DickMuffin
Yes, exactly,
I agree with what macjack09 says all the time “this team needs a real LB’s coach” and “Sims will never meet his full potential without a true LB coach”.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.
I love how you compare the redzone defense to the Panthers, as if the entire team must suck because they went 1-15 (I think). They actually had a pretty good team outside of the pass rush, WR play and completely awful QB play. Their QBs were SOOOO bad its insane. Their secondary and linebackers are actually pretty good (I’d reckon they’re better than the Eagles outside of Samuel and Mikell).
And yeah, the defense gives up a lot of points but don’t blame McDermott. Is it McDermott’s fault Nate Allen got bowled over in the red-zone? Is it McDermott’s fault Dimitri Patterson probably couldn’t cover a pole? Is it McDermott’s fault when Dimitri Patterson misses tackles and/or slips? Is it McDermott’s fault Nate Allen just decides to bump into Tony G? Is it McDermott’s fault the linebackers can’t cover a TE to save their lives? Is it McDermott’s fault when Joselio Hanson slips and gives up TDs? McDermott’s guys are in position to make plays, they just don’t make them, its not his fault he is starting 3 7th round draft picks from the past two years, is missing his starting MLB, LE, CB and FS. It isn’t his fault that he is forced to start corners who probably couldn’t make another team. This defense is so short on talent its insane.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
I know all about the Panthers...
They’re my best friend’s fav/hometown team. I just used them because they’re 2-14. The things that you mentioned are all incidental things that happens from time to time, to all players in the NFL. For everything you just said I can name you two more cons against Mcdermott.
Upgrades in defense from last year…
Free Safety: Nate Allen/Kurt Coleman over Macho/Sean Jones
Strong Safety: 2010 Quintin Mikell over 2009 Quintin Mikell
LCB: 2010 Asante over 2009 Asante
SAM: 2010 Fokou over 2009 Fokou
MLB: Stu Bradley/Jamar Chaney over Omar Gaither, Will Witherspoon, Chris Gocong, Akeem Jordan.
DT: Antonio Dixon over Bunkley
RDE: It’s always a revolving door but it was supposed to be better this year. We had Babin and Clemons last year. Their talents were wasted here and they went on to have double digit sack seasons on their next teams.
Also added Dick Jauron as secondary coach. This year’s offense also has a higher TOP than last year’s which helps the defense. Our linebackers also covered the TE much better than last year. Even with all those things, defense went from bad to terrible.
its not his fault he is starting 3 7th round draft picks from the past two years, is missing his starting MLB, LE, CB and FS.
Fokou is actually pretty solid and better than he was last year. The defense was just as bad before the two 7th rounders took over. They are still better at their positions than the players last year. Our starting LE is Parker not Graham. Parker took his starting job back while Graham was still healthy and playing.
This defense should have been much better this year but regressed to the point where they have the worst redzone defense in 25 years. 21.1 ppg(19th) to 23.6(21st). If Ellis Hobbs is getting raped, you take him out. If your 4 man rush is not working, blitz. If you’re blitzing, do it unpredictably. Do not send your best DE’s into coverage. Do not call timeouts before a third down only to give up the conversion. When Tapp is clearly the better DE, do not keep him on the bench and play him less than half the snaps. When Patterson is getting burnt and committing penalties, give your promising rookie a shot. When it’s third down and basically the game on the line, don’t have your MLB cover Percy Harvin.
I can go on and on. If you like him, you like him. I can’t change your mind if you don’t want to. He has done a bad job so far and I’m willing to give him one more shot next year, regardless of what happens in the playoffs. Don’t be surprised if he is replaced though…
its not Sean McDermott’s fault that his players are incapable of making plays and doing what they’re paid to do. I could point out example after example where an Eagles player was in position to make a play and they couldn’t do it. Its not like McDermott is making some crazy ass calls that leave players wide open, his players are just being beaten.
Ernie Sims was a downgrade from Will Witherspoon. Nate Allen and Kurt Coleman are worse than Macho Harris and Sean Jones were last year. Dimitri Patterson and Ellis Hobbs are a colossal downgrade from Sheldon Brown. Stewart Bradley is a mediocre player and isn’t any better than the rotation was last year. Last year’s line got more pass rush. This year’s line stops the run better.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
If Ernie Sims was bad, then he should’ve been benched for Clayton/Jordan/Chaney. Macho Harris and Sean Jones were two of the worst safeties in the league last season. They each allowed over 65% completion and 100+ QB rating to their man. Allen and Coleman are miles better than them. Bradley and Chaney are better than the circus Mcdermott was running at middle linebacker last season. Sheldon Brown although much better than what we have now, he still gave up 5 TDs last year and has definitely lost a step. He gave up 0 the year before.
Clayton isn’t ready to play and Akeem Jordan is already taking snaps away from Sims. Chaney isn’t a WLB. Macho Harris and Sean Jones were bad but so were Nate Allen (6 TDs allowed before he was injured, most in the NFL) and Kurt Coleman.
Stewart Bradley is so inconsistent and mediocre its not even funny, that hair brained rotation was just as effective last season. Even though Stewart Bradley is back the team still can’t stop the tight end and they can’t stop running backs in the flat because even though Stew is supposedly the guy in the middle, he has been no better than who ever lined up at MLB last season (except for Gocong, that was a disaster). And did Sheldon give up 5 TDs? I remember him giving up only about 2-3.
And Sheldon Brown was miles better than whoever the Eagles lined up at CB, in 2 games (Giants, Titans) the Eagles RCBs gave up 6 TD passes. They’re terrible.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
Seriously though, what good does it do to make excuses like this?
There aren’t going to be any asterisks in the stat books after this year that say “* – by the way, all of Sean McDermott’s players sucked this year, so the legendarily bad performance of his defense isn’t his fault.” It’s absolutely part of the coordinator’s job to make the most out of the players he’s got, not to come up with schemes that would only work if he created 11 players with 100 ratings in every category in Madden.
The secondary and the linebackers suck, it’s true. But McDermott was the one who CHOSE many of those players. He’s involved in putting together the defense. You don’t think he was involved in drafting Nate Allen? Or putting together the trades that brought in Sims and shipped off Sheldon? He’s got a say in these things. If the players we’ve acquired to upgrade our defense aren’t any good, that just means he sucks at scouting defensive talent in addition to his deficiencies as a play caller.
So why are you defending him? Whether it’s the scheme we run or the players we bring in, McDermott is calling the shots on defense. If we suck (and we do, regardless of what the stats say), he should damn well do something about it. Next year will be his third as our DC, and he’ll have had plenty of time to bring in the kinds of players he wants to use and build a defense his own way – and if we still suck, he needs to be replaced.
by licensetochill on Jan 5, 2011 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Ok let's see here.
It’s absolutely part of the coordinator’s job to make the most out of the players he’s got
He hasn’t done that? I mean he’s got like no depth on the DL anymore, he’s got 2 7th round rookies starting and a giant hole at RCB and he’s able to keep this Defense ranked at #12 in TOTAL DEFENSE? I’d say he’s doing alot with a little.
The secondary and the linebackers suck, it’s true. But McDermott was the one who CHOSE many of those players. He’s involved in putting together the defense.
He didn’t choose Patterson, Hobbs or Hanson. His LB’s were good for a little then went to shit. He wasn’t involed as much as you’d like to believe he was in the trades, he was most likely told by Reid “we can trade Sheldon for a pick and get value for him, or let him play next year and get nothing when we cut him” …
If the players we’ve acquired to upgrade our defense aren’t any good, that just means he sucks at scouting defensive talent in addition to his deficiencies as a play caller.
Um, he’s seriously he got a team that was old and slow and has made it young and fast, that and the only starters he’s brought in are Dixon, Graham, Chaney, Coleman and Allen.. He wasn’t banking on having to play a 7th round rookie at MLB or FS.. Honestly his scouting is fantastic, a pretty good FS in Allen right off the bat, a very surprising good Safety in Coleman, a 7th round MLB who just needs experience, Dixon is a stud now, Lindley has been doing well.
McDermott deserves another year to get his shit straight. Am I 100% happy with the Defense? No. we have a few vet’s among young bloods, so I’m waiting to see what he can do with his players, not JJ’s and not a mixture of the two.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.
Clayton looked good to me against the Cowboys. He is better at pass coverage than Sims which is what we need. Chaney was a WILL backer his first two years at Miss. State before he moved to the middle. He could have played there while Bradley was healthy. Nate Allen did not allow 6 TDs before he was injured. Don’t know where you got that number from. 3-4 tds at the most. Kurt Coleman has been doing mostly positive things after he took the starting position. Go check out game reviews from PFF and Lawlor. Bradley got better as the season went along. He was returning from a torn ACL for Pete’s sakes. Last year’s middle linebacker rotation was a joke and Mcdermott was a fuckin’ idiot experimenting with all those players during the season. Chaney/Bradley have no doubt improved that position.
I remember PFF crediting Sheldon with 5 TDs before they charged for their stats. Yes, I already acknowledged he is much better than what we have now. That’s ONE position we downgraded from and at least 5 upgrades. Like I said, I knew you wouldn’t be willing to change your mind from the get go. You can like him and make excuses all you want for him but the fact remains that this defense got worse than last year when it should have been much improved.
For the most part you're right,
However Sheldon was pretty much towards the end of his career, and I think he’s got maybe 1 more decent year in him, so I don’t really see it as a mistake as long as a CB other than Asante says “I fuckin got this shit”…
Nate Allen played very well, IDK where that stat came from he didn’t make many mistakes from what I saw.
Coleman’s probably the steal of the draft.
Chaney and even a bad Bradley are better than what we had last year… Honestly Bradley was showing flashes of his old self before he busted up that elbow.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.
Nate Allen and Kurt Coleman are worse than Macho Harris and Sean Jones were last year.
- What are you talking about, your crazy. Safety play is not our issue
I think that we just have to limit the 20+ plays in the postseason, especially against the packers
Eff age, were winning now!
Where is the "Decent Job" Option?
Do I believe he is as good as Jim Johnson and his other disciples? No. Do I think he is doing the best with what he is given? Yeah.
Remember the talent that he is working with, its not good. Aside from Trent Cole, the DTs, Mikell and Samuel this defense is thin on talent. Give him a half decent RCB, let Allen develop and get one impact LB and McDermott will be set. The talent McDermott is working with is nothing compared to the talent JJ had.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
by d-jackfan10 on Jan 5, 2011 2:22 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
exactly
even when he is thin on talent he is able to post good defensive numbers. This d is being held together with white glue. If we can stop the 20+ plays then the packers will eat us like glue like a pre-schooler and the fans will blame McD like people blame china about their manufacturing of goods for us (which they are right, china does a crap job). But McD deserves no shame.
Eff age, were winning now!
Are we sure the defense is being held together with glue? I’d say its being held together with scotch tape, gum and some paper clips.
Merry Vickmas everyone! * Falls into pile of snow DeSean style *
Honestly everybody's going after a 2nd year DC who is still learning the ins and outs of coaching at this level.
We wouldn’t give up on a 1st or 2nd round pick after 2 years would we?
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.
I was reading somewhere we're the 12th ranked in total Defense...
here is a LINK
12th in total defense, 14th(tied) for Passing Defense, 15th in rushing defense, 16th in receiving defense, 18th(tied) in Opponent first downs, 16th(tied) for opponent 3rd down conversions, 7th(tied) for 4th down conversions, 10th(tied) for Sacks, 3rd in Interceptions, and 28th in fumbles…
I’m sorry we’re ranked as the #12 defense, and we’re in the middle of the pack in everything but RZ Defense and high in INT’s…
The issues are w/ player execution not coaching.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.
See I think its the coaches fault the players are not executing.
. I mean if they keep making the same mistake. They need to be taught not to make the same mistake again. This is what I have a problem with. Like with the Titians game. You dont let the same guys get burnt time and time again. Jam the guy , Double cover him. Spit in his ear. Change something. I dont know man . Im not a coach. Im just a fan thats not happy. I can only say awwwhhhhh Fuck not again, so many times before im calling for some ones head.
Not only that, If he was such a good coach . He would have recognized the talent. Babin and weatherspoon possesd and utilized it. But no , I have to watch two guys that were on our team lite people up on a different team. That kinda shit that drives me nutz bro. I mean come on. You guyz have to be a little pissed about that too.
Here’s my though process:
Step 1: McDermott makes a call: example a play where he blitzes Webb in the Vikings game, brings Chaney right up the middle.
Step 2: Webb begins rolling to his right (naturally).
Step 3: Jaqua Parker gets free and is in position to make the sack.
Step 4: Webb evades Parker and throws for a first down.
Now this play happened, about 4-5 times, 3 with Parker, 1 time Sims got through and the other it was Tapp… McDermott made the call and put his players in a good position to make the play and they couldn’t.
That’s how things have been this year.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.
Very true
But you still have to give the babin and weatherspoon thing to me " Im just grasping at anything at this point"
I honestly will give you Witherspoon, he made decent contributions every game and that 1 amazing one.
Babin I sadly cannot, he showed nothing that said he’d be that dominant.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.
thats not true dude...
He dominated in the preaseaon last year (before he got cut and picked up by Titans)
FLY #7 FLY !!!
I thought we let him walk after last season...
and he dominated against scrubs, not really a big boost.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.
and I'm glad you see my though process.
and I will concede that sometimes McDermott does make some plays that sell out other players and put them in bad positions
and Example would be when he matched Bradley on Vernon Davis in the 49ers game… Complete mismatch, and he learned from that for the most part.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.
BTW, can we please talk about Cole
what have you done for me lately. I don;t give me that crap, “He’s being doubled garbage.” All it has taken is slight chucks at the line. We are all on our young defenders for sucking, lets look at the stars.
Good point, although Cole's actually been playing pretty well.
Since we’re gonna go into “bitch about every little thing mode” i’ll say this:
- Mikel WTF his name isnt Dawkins so he has to suck.
- Asante? Didn’t pick finish the year with 17 picks? fucking failure.
- McCoy? outdoing westbrook? Shame on you.
- Schmitt? not a supertalent FB? Fuck you then.
- Jason Peters.. You can play like this for a 6-7 game stretch? The hell dont you try for 16? Or hopefully 20?
- Desean Jackson? You didn’t do shit last week, looks like you’re on the shit list.
- Maclin, didn’t break a 1,000 yards huh? Fucking failure.
- Andy Reid.. Haven’t lost weight I see, fuck you then.
- McDermott… Have the 12th ranked D in the NFL with pretty much scrubs in there? yeah you ginger pirate fuck you’re on my shit list too.
- Mike Vick.. Ohh you should just go back to dog fighting after that Winfield fumble.
- Bobby April, no Kick Return for a TD? Yeah you’re job is fuckin mine.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.
Thank you.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.
A good job?
By what criteria exactly? This defense was worse across the board this year (historically bad in the red zone). Yeah some of it is the players but as the coordinator he takes some blame for a unit that was supposedly upgraded and has been unquestionably weaker this year.
The comparison to JJ...
…was pretty unfair. You took McDermott’s only two seasons and then compared them to arguably two of JJ’s best seasons. Not a fair comparison.
However, I see what you are getting at. I gotta read the rest of the comments before I go further.
I agree, he should find 2 of JJ's "middle of the pack" seasons,
like not his worst but not his best and compare them to McDermotts.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.
The players that were suposed to have great years
i.e. Cole, Bradley, Sims, Mikell (although hes having a solid year) Parker (the way he started I thougght maybe he turned the corner, now he can barely get pressure)
These are our veteran talent and they have not shown any leadership and it has hurt us
Parker (the way he started I thougght maybe he turned the corner, now he can barely get pressure)
Have to disagree, Parkers been getting some good pressure this year, his first game back was against the Vikings and he was in position to make 3-5 sacks, you have a slower QB and he makes those plays.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.
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