Eagles To Interview Saints' Dennis Allen For Defensive Coordinator Position
by JasonB on Jan 19, 2011 10:30 PM EST
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PrintAfter the Eagles fired Sean McDermott, the feeling was that the Eagles were looking for someone more experienced to run the defense. Apparently, that's not the case. Jay Glazer is reporting that the Eagles have asked for and received permission to interview Saints secondary coach Dennis Allen for their vacant defensive coordinator job. Allen, is in his mid 30s, while Sean McDermott was just 36.
The comparisons to the ex Eagles defensive coordinator don't end there. McDermott spent 9 years as an assistant to Jim Johnson, Allen has nine years of NFL coaching experience. McDermott coached the linebackers before coming secondary coach. Allen coached the defensive line before becoming secondary coach. McDermott was a protege of the great Jim Johnson. Allen has been a protege to Gregg Williams, a pretty good defensive coordinator in his own right.
Of course, just because their resumes are similar doesn't mean a whole lot. Allen is thought of as a rising star on the Saints staff and has been tipped as Gregg Williams' heir apparent. He has spent time with both the Falcons and Saints and had success in both places. As a defensive line coach with Atlanta his unit led the NFL in sacks in 2004. As a d-line coach in New Orleans for two seasons his unit had 48.5 sacks and a pro bowler in Will Smith. In 2009, while he was secondary coach, how often did the Saints secondary make big plays to win games? They did against the Eagles and they did in the Superbowl as well. Also, the Saints gave up just 15 TD passes that year which was the 3rd least in the NFL. This season, the Saints gave up a league low 13 TD passes. For the Eagles, who gave a up a franchise record 31 TD passes, that has to be attractive.
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ill take him
like we’ve said b4….almost anyone that comes in will look good b.c of how bad McD looked
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Word is about him
He is great teacher especially with the DL and secondary (more with DL though). Otherwise, not too much about him. Helped get Kerney to the Pro Bowl, helped get Will Smith to the Pro Bowl.
Otherwise, he’s a mystery. Guess I’ll check out the Saints Blog site about him.
just checked didnt really find anything
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Strong candidate
Smart, aggressive, values DL play and teaches good ballhawking.
Up-and-comer.
I’d support the hire.
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well?
aahhhhh……..I dont know………..Damn pretty raw hah?………He could be good…….Not really what i was thinking at all.
I like this guy.
Forces turnovers and at the same time doesn’t give up too many passing Td’s.Thank goodness Jim Moras not coming here,what a sigh of relief.
I’m sure it helps to have guys like Greer, Porter, Jenkins, Patrick Robinson, and Sharper
by DLawrence55 on Jan 19, 2011 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Greer was just average until he came to the Saints. Porter and Jenkins(who moved to FS this year) are products of their coaching. Robinson played sparingly, nothing special. Sharper barely played because of injury and lost his job to Jenkins. Roman Harper, their SS who is pretty good, is also a product of their coaching. No superstars, just good homegrown players.
i'd disagree
greer was a very solid CB for the buffalo bills and flashed playmaking ability. he was a hot free agent
Look at our other options.
I’ll take it. He’ll have a solid staff here, and his resume looks pretty good.
Brent Celek is my boy
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Jan 19, 2011 11:12 PM EST reply actions
I'd love the hire...
The Saints defense has been outstanding the last two seasons. He is a D-line and secondary specialist which is what we needed. Not only that, he learned from Gregg Williams who has some of the best blitz schemes in the league. We would still remain an aggressive, blitzing 4-3 defense and I’d love that.
Wait…isn’t that eerie similar to Mcdermott? Haha, don’t care. I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt. Still want Trgovak though…
I'm torn on this one, here's my thoughts.
Side 1:
Honestly why let go of McDermott if you’re going to get a guy with 9 total years of NFL coaching experience?
It makes no sense to me. You get the best DL coach in the business, you have Jauron(whom I don’t like as a DC) as your secondary coach.. We need a real LB coach..
Why go after a guy like this??
Side 2:
Looks like a smart move, risky but smart. He values DL play (something JJ did), he values a good ballhawking secondary (like JJ did).. And he comes from a pressure based system that involves many types of blitz’s and exotic things (like JJ did..)… Seems like a no brainer.
Now his units either DB or DL from every team he’s been at have been very good, ranking towards the top. Now if he can get an entire defense to rank near the top then we’re golden.
Also surrounding him with guys like Juaron (if he stays) and Willburn is a very good idea, there’s alot of experience there, there’s alot of guidance there…
I say we go after a legit LB coach now.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
To be fair, you need to be good with LBs to be a good head coach. Leslie Frazier and Spags are good indicators of that.
With that being said, if he were to become our new DC, that technically wouldn’t stop him from getting a LB coach (still waiting on the good news about Shuey). The technically part has to do with Reid letting him (or any person we hire for that matter) have that much immediate authority.
I just want a real LB coach.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
Sorry I got a teacher named Willburn and I was typing that up while writing my post here lol
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
what about Kevin Greene, LB coach for the Green Bay packers?
During the 2008 season Greene, along with former Steeler Jason Gildon, served an internship for the Pittsburgh Steelers as an assistant linebackers coach during training camp. On January 26, 2009, Greene was hired as an Outside Linebackers Coach for the Green Bay Packers by Dom Capers. The Packers were transitioning into a 3-4 base defense from their traditional 4-3 base. Greene played for Capers for two years as a Steeler, and then followed Capers to Carolina when Capers was named first head coach of the Panthers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Greene
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Let's go after Winston moss after this
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hmmmmmmm i dont know much about him but his resume is pretty impressive and i wouldn’t dislike the move considering the options left
The lack of experience concerns me a bit, but like you said, he’s accomplished a lot in his short time in the NFL. If he’s considered a rising star I wouldn’t mind letting him take over the defense.
"Get 'Em"
by FlyEagles15 on Jan 19, 2011 11:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
One thing is for sure
Good lookin’ dude.
by birds'n'raiders on Jan 20, 2011 12:02 AM EST reply actions
Whatys the back of his head look like? No homo.
"What a gorgeous dog. What do you feed him?"
What's
"What a gorgeous dog. What do you feed him?"
Only the weak
Feel the need to call ‘no homo’.
If one feels so insecure that he must openly affirm his heterosexuality whenever making any comment or suggestion that could, perhaps, be taken as a sign of homosexuality – then he is trying to hard to tell himself that he is heterosexual because he is overly self-conscious and even too concerned with his own sexuality.
Nothing wrong with sayin a dude looks good. Shitty haircut though. I wouldn’t bee seen with this guy, and can only imagine the shit he puts his wingman through.
Just because
by birds'n'raiders on Jan 20, 2011 2:22 AM EST up reply actions
This is a lesson and not an attack on anyone
I’m just saying so it has been said.
But on the topic, there is never any excuse for a man* to carry a satchel (otherwise known as the one and only man-purse).
*Europeans excluded. You guys are men. But it’s different here. The murse thing is the only difference though. Everything else should be cool. Except being French. There’s nothing worse than a Pussy (that walks)
by birds'n'raiders on Jan 20, 2011 2:28 AM EST up reply actions
let me guess
For a person to call out a guy for openly affirming his heterosexuality to others usually means that person is probably in offense of him doing so because what he said is detrimental to his beliefs or sexuality.
So in others, your simply offended he said “no homo” because you’re gay (not that there’s anything wrong that). You don’t need to go technicial on his ass, just simply freaking say you were offended. There’s nothing worse than a guy who is insecure with his own sexuality on the internet that he has to flame people who are freely open about theirs, albeit in an offensive way
Birds’n’raiders thinks he is funny and cute because he uses big words even though diminutive words would suffice. He isn’t funny, birds’n’raiders needs to go back to 4chan where those tards might actually think he is.
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Nah, I agree.
No homo is kind of a stupid meme (or whatever it is). I can recognize, for example, that Ryan Reynolds is a good looking guy without needing to qualify that statement with anything. Just as a girl can recognize that Ryan Reynolds’ ex-wife, Scarlett Johanson, is smokin’ hot without that girl needing to point that she is in fact straight. What exactly is the point of saying it anyway? I never understood why it mattered.
by NOLACuse on Jan 20, 2011 12:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm with NOLA and birds
Saying “no homo” after every little gay remark is pretty weak. Think I’m gay if you want, I really don’t care cuz its not really anyone’s business and because I know I love women. I love their scent. Their skin. I love the way they tremble when they are terrified of my basement…
Enter the Vicksperience.
Bro saying "no homo" is ok,
I mean some of us say some pretty gay things on here to each other etc and say “no homo” it’s what we do…
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
*** It's ok if it's not overused.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
I like it
He’s young, yes. But from what it seems, he’s got some experience. People will pan this saying we JUST let go of McDermott because of his youth and inexperience. Not necessarily. Those were contributing factors, but so were not getting it done and not being able to adapt schemes (See the second Giants game, Titans game, etc.). McDermott was an up and coming—correction, is an up and comer—and he stepped in at the worst time and simply failed to live up to even the lowest of expectations. Allen has 2 years on him in age, but his resume is already littered with some decent accomplishments. Combine him with Washburn, and automatically we have something we did not have last year—solid, veteran leadership guiding a young coordinator. One can argue that Jauron provided that—or tried—but he’s certainly no Washburn.
Thus, because we got Wash, I feel that a hiring like this would pay dividends. Getting a retread—aside from Trgovac—is simply a waste of time.
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Experience
With all stats being equal, I don’t think you’ll find any of his players calling him the worst coordinator they’ve ever had at any level.
I’d be on board with this guy. This is definitely a chance for him to grow and make a bigger name for himself. If he was this successful at all his other levels, he has to be curious as to whether or not he could handle an entire defense. I feel like this is solely in the hands of the Eagles pending the interview. I’d love to be a fly on the wall when Reid questions Allen on defensive schemes and ideas trying to determine if the guy fits our system.
Enter the Vicksperience.
He has never been a coordinator yet, haha. Hope it won’t be McD part two if hired. I don’t think he will.
by Route36 on Jan 20, 2011 10:46 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
true statement
Got ahead of myself…. regardless, players seems to respect him which is something that McDiesel didn’t seem to achieve
Enter the Vicksperience.
“It’s always a tough thing, wanting your coaches to have the opportunity but not wanting to lose them,” said Payton, who is close friends with new Broncos coach John Fox – a good and bad thing in this case. “This experience of going through the interview process and getting his name out there is deserved. He’s done a very good job. He’s extremely well thought of within this building.”
I’d rather he stay with the us. I guess it shows the Saints are finally having sustained success when other teams get interested in hiring their assistants. If he does leave, I’d rather he go to the Eagles than the Broncos. I think there’s more opportunity for success there because the Eagles have more of the winning pieces in place than the rebuilding Broncos.
"As soon as Tony (Dungy) said we had no chance, I knew we had 'em right where we wanted 'em"--Coach Sean Payton right after Super Bowl XLIV with the Lombardi Trophy firmly in hand. WHO DAT!!
by David "Satch" Kelly on Jan 20, 2011 6:46 PM EST reply actions
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