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With another heart breaking playoff loss in the books, it's time to reflect on what is needed to reload and prep for another season in 2011 (hopefully). First up is the Eagle's defense.
We stunk. We stunk on Sunday and most of the year. Worst red-zone d since '86? 377 points allowed? 54 20+ big plays allowed? 5.2 yards per play? I don't think even my compost pile has anything more rotten than our D in 2010. However, I still have hope with the young gun in Sean McDermott. Those here at BGN that do keep faith with Micky D know that he did the best with what he had. He had horrible RCB play, inconsistent pass rush, and rotten linebacker play at ALL levels. Some shark. Micky D needs impact players that make an impact like offensive player. The only player that can do that is Asante Samuel. Unfortunately Trent Cole isn't this kind of player. He doesn't change the game with sacks or turnovers like a Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, or Julius Peppers. I love Trent Cole and I even have his jersey and It's the only one I wear (cause my other one is a McNabb jersey. Cole is a role player in a sense. He need many of those and they are very important in any good defense. They basically need to be pro-bowl snubs. With any good defense, you need impact players at at least two different positions. That is why free-agency will be much more beneficial to our team than the draft. With unexperienced players you get inconsistence play and many mistakes. Just look at the pic above to see the inexperience of this defense. We need to build with the draft for sure, but reload with impact vets. Drafting rookies and expecting them to make an impact immediately will get us the same results this year.
Step One: A new linebacker coach
Billy Shuey is not getting it done with the linebackers. Two back-to-back years with problems with the backers are major concerns. Yes, poor individual match-ups are the fault of the players. But with consistent problems with guys like Steward Bradley who since the start of 06 was solid for us occurs, it isn't good.Bill has no playing experienced at either the pro or college levels. So let's get a guy who is exactly the opposite.
Although Singletary had a rough year coaching in 2010, he had a solid defense for two years as a head coach. Famous for his play as a linebacker, he is now an amazing linebacker coach that has resurrected former Eagles LB Takeo Spikes and has developed one of the best middle linebackers of the game today in Patrick Willis. Adding him will help develop our relatively young players like Chanley, Clayton, and Foku while possibly could be the only one to resurrect Ernie Sims career. And most importantly, can bring a swagger that I feel that has been missing from the Eagles D since JJ's passing.
Step Two: Bringing in impact vets
Positions of need: DT, SAM, WILL, MIKE, RCB, S
Defensive Tackle
Current Players: Brodrick Bunkley, Mike Patterson, Antonio Dixon, Trevor Laws, Jeff Owens
The Eagles pass rush was abysmal this season. We couldn't get consistent pressure on many quarterbacks, leaving the secondary out to dry. And while lots criticize our ends, lots of it should be placed on our tackles. It is extremely difficult when only our ends are rushing. Yeah, we play a two gap system where they have to read the run, but that is a little misguided. First of all the best way to stop the run is penetration. Don't just sit in your gap and let them cut back right next to you. Fight back into the backfield and crush the guy that's 2-3 times smaller than you. And second, on when you know they are going to pass or it's third and long, you can not worry about the run too many times. Bunkley and Patterson aren't fitting the bill. JJ had Corey Simon, he penetrated the line and lit people up. We need a pass rushing line. Here are my top five guys that can fix our problem (not in any particular order).
Brother of the well known Kris Jenkins, Cullen is a relatively underrated player. He plays end in a 3-4 system and sacks are hard to accomplish in a 3-4 system as a DL men. However, he has amazing leverage skills that allow him to get penetration in the run and pass. He has somewhat of a durability issue only playing 11 games this season, but still accomplished 7 sacks in capers 3-4 system.
2. Haloti Ngata
Long-time Raven's 3-4 DE/NT will become a free-agent. He is one of the best in the game today and causes the offensive line fits in both the run and pass game.
He's young and extremely underrated. His numbers of late might get him snubbed from the pro-bowl, but make no mistake, he is the best player on the Seattle Seahawks.
He may be old and he may have had a quiet season, Franklin dominates anyone in the middle. He commands attention as well as a long term deal.
Yeah he shows little to no effort and he has barley played. But the Redskins will get rid of him this off-season, either in a trade or in a release. All his guaranteeing money was paid last season (the big deal about Albert taking the money and not showing up to practice) so it's basically 5 years 27 mill. In 08 he had 8.5 sacks and Tennessee had it's best D with him there. Maybe like Peppers, all he needs is a change of scenery. I think a 4th pick and Patterson or Bunckley would be worth it.
Other mentionable DT's:
Pat Williams, Anthony Adams, Antonio Johnson , Daniel Muir, Eric Foster, Remi Ayodele, Barry Coefield, John Henderson
Linebackers
Current Starter(s): Mosie Foku, Ernie Sims, Steward Bradley, Jamar Chanley, Akeem Jordan
Our play from all but Foku, who continued from a strong rookie season, were disappointing. All but Foku don't deserve to not earn their starting job. Sims was inefficient, whether it be missing assignments or tackles. Bradley was slow with his knee, Akeem was disappointing and the rookie Chaney played decent. But we need better than decent. Even with the core being much more stable, we had the same results as 2009. Pass coverage, blitzing, and tackling were all poor. We really need all three positions.
1. Chad Greenway (OLB)
Chad was the best LB for the Minnesota Vikings in 2010. He is athletic and can cover tight ends with ease, something that a healthy Sims or a 80% Bradley can't accomplish. Greenway can look to leave the mess in Minnesota or can stay with familiarity in Fraszer.
2. Stephan Tulloch (MLB)
Tulloch has emerged as a star with the Titans this year and is one of the up and coming linebackers that will be great. He has speed to cover linebackers and quick moves to get to the quarterback on the blitz.
3. James Anderson (SAM)
Something that the Eagles haven't had in a while is a true SAM backer, let alone good SAM backer play until this season with Foku. Anderson was one of the few bright spots on the Carolina defense. He has a bright future ahead of him.
4. Barrett Ruud (MLB)
Another young and talented hard-nose backer that the Eagles should really look at. He is a good pass rusher but his skills in the Tampa Two covering the deep middle isn't suited for him or the Bucs. So that marriage doesn't have a promising future.
5.Kirk Morrison (MLB)
Traded to the Jags on the draft last year, Morrison is a talented player, but it looks like he doesn't have a promising future with the Jags either. I remember that many here at BGN were looking for the Eagles to make a move for him. He is very good at covering tight ends as well as rushing.
Other notable LB's:
Stephen Nicholas, Nick Roach, D’Qwell Jackson, Zach Diles, Clint Session, Justin Durant, Ben Leber, Thomas Howard, Quincy Black, Leroy Hill, David Thornton
Quick Note: I don't feel that David Harris nor Thomas Davis could really help us. Thomas Davis is coming off a knee injury and many question his career. Harris is also not very good in coverage.
Defensive Backs
The only bright spots in the secondary this year were Allen and Coelman were pleasant surprises in the secondary, Asante's tackling has improved much since last year. However, RCB has been a revolving door with Hobbs, Patterson, and Hanson. All three were disappointments, however Patterson did do the best job and proved when he is discipline is his coverage, he can contribute both in coverage and the run game. However, he is more suited to the nickel package as with Hanson. Mikkel I felt got too much credit this season, I remember many dropped picks and miscommunication deep this season. He should be equally accountable for the many 20+ plays we gave up this season. We need impact players at RCB and SS in order for our blitzes to be much more successful. There are too many talented DB's in free-agency to do nothing.
If Revis has an Island, Asomugha should have a continent. He is able to consistently able to take away a third of the field. The only reason his stats suck and his contract was voided was because of the lack of throws to him. Only 11 completions on him? That's insane. Having him in green will allow Asante to break the INT record and would allow coverage to shift to Samuels side in a blitz, allowing the only "weakness" to Asomugha's frontier.
2. Champ Bailey
The longtime Bronco could be leaving Mile high for good. He has slowed down with age, but his 80% is better than 3/4 of the leagues DB's 100%. Hey an eye for an eye am I right?
3. Johnathan Joseph
The Bengals have one of the best CB duo's in Joseph and Hall. Although both had down years, they are easily in the 10 ten CB's today. If we have to settle for Joseph instead of Asomugha, I'd be "ok" with it.
Grimes had a fantastic season for an improved Falcons defense. Going into the final week, he’s one back of the leader in deflected passes. As an undrafted player, he’s worked his way and improved each season to become one of the league’s better corners now. With the secondary struggles in Atlanta over the past few years, they’ll show their appreciation for Grimes in the offseason.
5. Josh Wilson
He entered the Raven's organization in a trade with the Seahawks because of a lack of depth at DB for the Ravens. Now he is their best CB and compliments Ed Reed well is the back field. Him in midnight green would be a solid addition.
Notable DB's:
Ike Taylor, Richard Marshall, Antonio Cromartie, Eric Wright, Ronde Barber, Dashon Goldson, Justin King, Danieal Manning, Roman Harper, Dawan Landry, Tanard Jackosn, Benard Pollard, Eric Weddle
Best Possible Scenario? Nnamdi Asomugha, Barrett Ruud, Trade for Albert Haynesworth for 4th and Patterson/Bunckley, and Singletary as LB coach.
EDIT NOTE:
Ok this is what I'm trying to say.
Trent Cole lately hasn’t been productive. For our D to improve, we need a better supporting cast for him to become more productive like in 2007.
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For a 7th rounder, put in a starting role due to injury as a rookie
Chaney was pretty damn good. I wouldn’t rush to write him off just yet.
and please oh please oh please.....
shit can Rory Seagrest. Nobody, and i repeat nobody has gotten better or produced under him. Laws finally hit the gym and got in shape, only reason he was better this year.
by Eaglefaneric on Jan 13, 2011 6:50 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Cole is a role player in a sense.
I stopped reading after this.
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
by DickMuffin on Jan 13, 2011 8:05 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
Cole is good at role-playing?
also rec’d, what an asinine statement
DTMWTD
by alcatraz0109 on Jan 13, 2011 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
that might because he has tailed of at the end of the season, but
he really doesn’t make that much of an impact anymore. However when it’s only the DE’s rushing the QB no one should expect any consistent pressure. But in recent memory, how many times did Trent Cole impact a game like a Jared Allen, Julius Peppers, or Dwight Freeney?
Eff age, were winning now!
Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis easily benefit from having each other on the line at the same time. Jared Allen has the Williams Wall along with Ray Edwards to take blockers off of him. You know who Trent Cole had opposite him? Jaqua fucking Parker and DT’s who were just run stuffers (before Dixon). Trent Cole has faced double and triple teams constantly and still puts up very good sack numbers. Not to mention how great he is defending the run. I honestly don’t think there is a better DE against the run than Cole. Juilus Peppers is in the same boat as Cole, he takes the brunt of the blocking and makes it easier for everybody else on the line, and you know what it got him? 54 tackles and 8 sacks this year. That’s 11 tackles and 2 sacks less than the guy that you just called a “role player.”
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
Ok I see that
but one of my points were that a big problem with our pass rush isn’t Trent Cole, it’s the inside guys with Patterson and Bunk. My big point is we need penetration in both the run and pass game from our DT’s, cause right now it’s just our ends rushing.
Eff age, were winning now!
Yeah but that’s not what you were saying. You were saying that Trent Cole was merely a role player when in reality he is the whole D-line. He is much more of an impact player than that of Freeney, Mathis, and Allen because he does everything and he does everything very well with little help from the rest of the line.
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
lol
I literally did the exact same thing
by philiafan14364 on Jan 14, 2011 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
What the @#$%
1)Trade for Haynesworth (4th and one of our current DT’s
Do you have a drug problem?
2) Cole is good at role-playing? " Two Part comment to this"
a ) I didnt know he had another job as an actor.
b) Ok now I know your on drugs. What are you taken and do you wanna sell some?
how many times did Trent Cole impact in a game this season like a Jared Allen, Julius Peppers, or Dwight Freeney?
not any. Therefore, how would you characterize someone who isn’t a impact player?
Eff age, were winning now!
Teams would kill for a Trent Cole.
A guy who makes can play pass and run and stay in for nearly every down. He’s the kind of guy that even with no one around him or no blitz can provide a pass rush. The kind of guy Clay Matthews, or Julius peppers is. The kind of guy teams like the Jets or Patriots would kill for.
What game did you see on Sunday vs the packers
cause I saw no pressure against a poor offensive line. None, not even Trent Cole.
Eff age, were winning now!
oh my gawd, one bad game, cut his ass
The Packers have a very good offensive line, and (as has been mentioned something like 10000 times) do you know what his supporting cast is like?
DTMWTD
by alcatraz0109 on Jan 13, 2011 11:35 PM EST up reply actions
no they really don't have that good of an OL
38 sacks given up and 67 qb hits. That isn’t that good. The top five OL’s gave up 16, 16, 23, 25, 26 sacks. Also I’ve been beating the drum for Trent Cole to get a better supporting cast, that’s actually one of my points in my post.
he Eagles pass rush was abysmal this season. We couldn’t get consistent pressure on many quarterbacks, leaving the secondary out to dry. And while lots criticize our ends, lots of it should be placed on our tackles. It is extremely difficult when only our ends are rushing. Yeah, we play a two gap system where they have to read the run, but that is a little misguided. First of all the best way to stop the run is penetration. Don’t just sit in your gap and let them cut back right next to you. Fight back into the backfield and crush the guy that’s 2-3 times smaller than you. And second, on when you know they are going to pass or it’s third and long, you can not worry about the run too many times. Bunkley and Patterson aren’t fitting the bill. JJ had Corey Simon, he penetrated the line and lit people up. We need a pass rushing line. Here are my top five guys that can fix our problem (not in any particular order).
And also here are some of the biggest games for the Eagles this season and What T. Cole did
Indy week 9: 3 solo tackles 1 sack (decent performance)
NYG week 15: 3 solo tackles 0 sacks (poor performance)
MIN week 16: 1 tackle 0 sacks (bad performance)
GB last week: 2 solo tackles, 0 sacks (poor performance)
so really, in the biggest games Trent Cole hasn’t made a huge impact. Do I think he is our second best player and has lots to give for us next season. YES>
Eff age, were winning now!
And yet we hear nothing of how in the Indy game we as a team sacked Manning 3 times and hit him 6 other times, how in the MOTNM he was in on 10 tackles (a season-high), or how in the Minny game Juqua had 4-5 chances to bring down Webb.
Trent Cole creates opportunities for his teammates. It’s not his fault that his teammates can’t finish the play or make any impact of their own.
Also I’ve been beating the drum for Trent Cole to get a better supporting cast, that’s actually one of my points in my post.
I don’t get what you’re trying to say – is Cole not talented enough or is he not surrounded by enough talent? Because 95% of people on BGN would agree with the latter but not the former.
DTMWTD
by alcatraz0109 on Jan 14, 2011 12:11 AM EST up reply actions
number5 youre getting beat like a 2 dollar whore here
pack up camp , say you’re sorry and move on lol
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
Ok this is what I'm trying to say.
Trent Cole lately hasn’t been productive. For our D to improve, we need a better supporting cast for him to become more productive like in 2007. IS there any misconception.
Eff age, were winning now!
That's better
You should have said that in the first place. We would have all agreed with you.
DTMWTD
by alcatraz0109 on Jan 14, 2011 12:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Dude
He is the D line. The dude was tired and I dont blame him. How many people rotate out with cole? Yea thats right. You try pushing 300 pound mother fuckers outta the way all year and not get any help. Then well see how affective you are at the end of the year.
This is how I see it. Cole go get the QB. Cole drop back in coverage. Cole hit the running back. so yea . hes a role player . He plays every role on the D. Almost every play.
You try pushing multiple 300 pound mother fuckers outta the way all year and not get any help.
Fixed.
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
I actually did in high-school (played DE and DT against 2 300+ guys)
It’s a challenge I know.
Eff age, were winning now!
Stats:
This year he had 1 less sack then Jared Allen, 15 more tackles, and they both had 7 stuffs. He had 40, yes 40, more tackles then Freeney, the same number of sacks, and 5 more stuffs. He had 11 more tackles then Peppers, 2 more sacks, and 2 more stuffs. You may want to check stats and think about more then just the most recent game before you dog on one of the best players at his position in the NFL.
Fly Eagles Fly, on the road to Vicktory!
by KeepSwinging on Jan 13, 2011 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
First off It's called an opinion. How is calling him a role-player last year on our team a horrible thing?
Second, here are some of the biggest games for the Eagles this season and What T. Cole did
Indy week 9: 3 solo tackles 1 sack (decent performance)
NYG week 15: 3 solo tackles 0 sacks (poor performance)
MIN week 16: 1 tackle 0 sacks (bad performance)
GB last week: 2 solo tackles, 0 sacks (poor performance)
so really, in the biggest games Trent Cole hasn’t made a huge impact. Do I think he is our second best player and has lots to give for us next season. YES.
(here are his stats from after the bye. 10 games total after the bye (including GB) 18 total tackles and 4 sacks)
Eff age, were winning now!
Calling Trent Cole a role player is akin to saying Wilson Valdez could adequately replace J-Roll. It’s an opinion, but not one that’s particularly intelligent or well-informed.
DTMWTD
by alcatraz0109 on Jan 14, 2011 12:03 AM EST up reply actions
Stats dont always tell the whole story there champ
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Haynesworth would be like TO but worse, at least TO tries when he’s on the field.
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by KeepSwinging on Jan 13, 2011 11:16 PM EST up reply actions
that's true
but all of his guaranteed money is payed so if we cut him it would cost nothing
Eff age, were winning now!
Well his avatar is McNabb in a skins jersey
that should be the first red flag
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by Joe_D on Jan 13, 2011 9:06 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
actually if you click on my profile
you see than McNabb is frowning and looks sad.
Eff age, were winning now!
Get
Haynesworth for a 5th rounder he would thrive in the 4 -3
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by phillyeaglesfan on Jan 14, 2011 12:00 AM EST via mobile reply actions
at first I was thinking a 5th, but then I thought that would be too little
Eff age, were winning now!
Ok this is what I'm trying to say.
Trent Cole lately hasn’t been productive. For our D to improve, we need a better supporting cast for him to become more productive like in 2007. IS there any misconception.
Eff age, were winning now!
No. That makes complete sense.
Every Eagles fan now agrees with you.
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
Honestly..
We have a SAM LB… Fokou… The man deserves his starting position.. Though I think he should be moved to Will where his athleticism is a good fit.
Bradley, Chaney and whoever else at MIKE should be in an open competition.
At SAM (should we move Fokou) I think Bradley and SIms should compete with the reserves getting a fair shot also.
At WILL we should allow all the LB’s compete for it..
OPEN COMPETITION WHEREVER FOKOU ISN’T lol.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
I’d try Bradley back at Sam, Fokou at Will, and Chaney at Mike.
Jason Peters: Heart of a Lion, Face of a Chipmunk.
That's what I want to happen too, if it's what's best.
but the Coaches may not value Fokou as a WILL LB..
Either way, no matter how this offseason goes, Fokou cannot get screwed over, he’s earned his job
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
no richard marshall?
i would be pretty damn happy with him. i know everyone wants nmandi. but we could this guy for half the price tag.
"it's like i tell my ex-wife, i never drive faster than i can see, and besides it's all in the reflexes." -Jack Burton, Big trouble in little China
yeah 1/2 the price tag and 1/8th of the player.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
i wouldn't go that far.
he’s far and away better than anyone on our roster not named asante. he’s physical, he can cover. he’s inexpensive. i just don’t see the FO dropping the money necessary to pull in asomugha. it would be great, and i would be absolutely thrilled if i was wrong. but i would rather have a do it all type corner in marshall, over jonathan joeseph who is purely a cover corner.
"it's like i tell my ex-wife, i never drive faster than i can see, and besides it's all in the reflexes." -Jack Burton, Big trouble in little China
5. Albert Haynesworth
Thats when I stopped reading this haha.
This guy can’t honestly believe Fat Albert would be a logical move for us. Also I think Patterson and Bunkley are decent but I can see why a stud DT would be nice. I’m mostly worried about the LB corps and RCB spots. Just that alone would improve this D exponentially. Mike Singletary would be amazing to have as a LB coach
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