Eagles Position Reviews: Tight Ends
Now that the offseason has officially started for the Eagles, Andy Reid and company will have to spend the next couple of weeks carefully scrutinizing the 2010 roster. The free agency signing period begins in a little over a month and a half and by that time, the front office should have a good idea of which Eagles players they'll want to bring back for the 2011 season (if there is one). Today, BGN takes a look at the tight end position.
The Players
Brent Celek: Although he didn't have the monster statistical season everyone predicted, Celek showed flashes of his breakout year self and seemed to slightly pick up his performance towards the end of the season. Count on him being back next year in a starting role as he still has six years left on his monster eight year deal.
Clay Harbor: Only active for nine games this season, Harbor didn't exactly set the world on fire during his rookie year. However, the coaching staff did display a degree of confidence in the young Missouri State product when the roster was narrowed to two tight ends and they went with him over Garrett Mills. Harbor figures to return for another year in a reserve role as he currently has three years left on his rookie contract.
Cornelius Ingram: Over the course of the past year, Ingram has been signed and re-signed to the Eagles roster more times than Albert Haynesworth has thrown a hissy fit. Although never making it to the active roster, Ingram figures to compete for the #3 spot in training camp. Let's just hope his knees hold up...
John Nalbone: A recent signing off of the Dolphins practice squad, the former 5th round pick will compete for a reserve role during camp.
Who Could Leave
N/A
Who Could Sign
The Titans have all but confirmed that the 30 year old Bo Scaife will not return for seventh season with the team. He still appears to have some productivity left in the tank though, as he went for 318 yards and 4 touchdowns this year. He has the potential to be a solid backup
Dante Rosario appears to be on his way out in Carolina. The pass catching specialist could make a decent reserve player if he isn't re-signed.
Dan Gronkowski will be a free agent and could be a young developmental option as a blocking tight end. However, he will be coming off of an ankle injury that landed him on injured reserve during week 14, so signing him would be a bit of a risk. Fun fact: Gronkowski is a converted quarterback, which gives the coaches the option to try a trick play or two.
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don't forget
the Bossman is a free agent. it’s not a given that our FO will put ink to paper with him, even tho i hope they do.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
I like Kevin Boss. I feel like he’s the kind of solid but unspectacular TE that every team needs. He just gets results. I appreciate that in a tight end.
Let the beasting begin.
by TransplantedFan on Jan 13, 2011 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
yea his blocking is his best talent
he’s regressed as far as his hands tho, and i’m wondering if its not because of all the vicious illegal hits to the head he’s taken in his short career. maybe he’s more worried about whats gonna happen to him after he gets hit, then watching the ball into his hands.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
we need to get wasley saunders
HES A FUCKIN BEAST. hes gonna like 4th round or lower. he would be one of the best 2nd te’s in the league. he is like a black version of rob gronkowski except hes black and a fuckin badass
"Believe deep down in your heart that you're destined to do great things." - Joe Paterno
I WILL do great things so stand in my way if u want to come across because once the play starts its you and me.....
i always win
by HawaiiEaglesFanatic on Jan 13, 2011 12:58 AM EST reply actions
very disappointed this year with the tight end position
the biggest skill position weakness on our team
Eff age, were winning now!
I mean this in the nicest way possible
But shut up. Eagles fans on this site, that I have started reading a couple months ago, are ridiculously pathethic.
Michael Vick made a mistake at the end of the game! Quarterbacks are never allowed to have bad decisions! Let’s go with Kevin Kolb instead, despite the fact that Vick is better than Kolb in every single aspect of the game.
Brent Celek had to block and couldn’t catch much? Get rid of him! We need a new tight end!
Trent cole was double teamed and held? He sucks! Draft a new defensive end!
Desean Jackson getting double coverage? Trade away half our team for Larry Fitzgerald!
Dimitri patterson having a tough time against good receivers? Let’s stick in the 7th round pick out of nowhere because he’s obviously better than a four year veteran! I mean, he’s a couple inches taller, that must make him all pro, right?
Stewart Bradley getting injured and Jamar Chaney racking up meaningless stats? Get rid of Bradley! It was obviously Asante Samuel who was responsible for shutting down the run for the first 14 weeks of the season!
Ernie Sims being average? Let’s stick in another 7th round pick out of nowhere because he’s fast and he was once a safety. That probably will solve all our red zone problems! See? I’m a genius! Sean McDermott is retarded, how can he not see this obvious move!
Kurt Coleman put in the starting position in the middle of the season as a 7th round draft pick at a position he does not typically play! Sean McDermott you are supposed to be turning Jamarcus Russel into Tom Brady, what the hell is the matter with you? You’re fired!
The sort of things I read on this site, makes me wonder whether the reason why we haven’t won a Superbowl is because the fans don’t deserve it.
You could pick any one person from this site and give them a coaching job at the Eagles, I guarantee you, no matter what, that the Eagles would crash and burn the same year. No matter what. Fact of the matter is, no one on this site is nearly as smart as they think they are.
by jagggger on Jan 13, 2011 2:59 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
you're placing this site as a microcosm of the entire fanbase
you know what this makes you look like….a retard. i agree half the people on this site are utter idiots but you can’t generalize. So listen here faggot. Coaches are paid millions because they are the few individuals that can make smart moves. Its like basically asking a latina maid to preform surgery. We say all these things because we strive for perfection, which can only occur through change, which is what we ask for (some more radical than others). And to say we dont deserve a SB….well fuck you, no more needs to be said. I live in cali and i am die hard till i die. I rep the eagles 24/7. Read espn, si, nfl.com, rotoworld, bgn, etc etc. and for you to say that i as a fan dont deserve to see the eagles win a SB…..fuck you. Half of you assertions above are the most fallacious arguments i have ever seen.
Congrats, you have officially been considered part of the BGN retard association.
by CornOnTheKolb on Jan 13, 2011 3:17 AM EST up reply actions
first off, how mad?
Second, yeah, I am putting it as a microcosm. Because a lot of this site’s members take it to the next level. Our fanbase is polluted with people who are very ungrateful and so quick to talk badly about the players and coaches that have made the Eagles a better team than more than 3/4’s of the NFL over the last decade.
The backlash against McNabb, the calls to fire Andy Reid every year, and now all these posts about how we should replace one of the better tight ends in the league.
It’s not just this site, unfortunately. This site just makes it more obvious.
jaggger...
nice to know you have us all figured out. stop sucking so much dick. thanks.
"it's like i tell my ex-wife, i never drive faster than i can see, and besides it's all in the reflexes." -Jack Burton, Big trouble in little China
Who put a bug up his ass?
Let the beasting begin.
by TransplantedFan on Jan 13, 2011 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
hey douchebag
did I say that I thought Celek suck? No I said he was disappointing as well as the rest of the TE crew. I know he’ll work hard in the off-season to get back to 09 shape. So shut up. PEOPLE ARE ENTITLED TO THEIR OPINION.
Eff age, were winning now!
Ernie Sims
Does suck though. Have you watched him play this year? He’s always out of position and biting on any and every play fake.
Celek, clay, ingram (if he doesn't tear his shit up again)
Celek will never be a good blocker though
Not disappointed in Celek at all
He did as well as he could under the circumstances, having to block a lot will murder the stats every one looks at. If I had known our O-line would have been so bad I wouldn’t have drafted him in fantasy. He might not be the best blocking tight end in the league, but he did alright all things considered.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
I don't understand how anyone could be disappointed in Celek...
Ok I take that back, if you are only looking at the stats then yes Celek had a pretty crappy year. But those of us who pay attention know exactly why. The guy had to stay home and block about 75% of the time. Which is ironic since blocking was always his biggest weakness, though I would say not any longer, he did a very good job blocking. And honestly, when you have receivers like Jackson, Maclin and Avant then throwing to the T.E isn’t always something that you need to do, unless of course we are playing our own defense in which case the TE is always the best option. That aside, the one key thing that I think Celek can provide next year, assuming they fix the O-Line is another legit threat in the red zone. As it stands right now they really only have two vertical options in the red zone. Maclin and Avant. We all know Jackson is useless unless he is in the open field so have a big body like Celek will only help the red zone offense, which isn’t bad to begin with, get that much better. I expect big things from Celek next year…if he is given the opportunity to achieve them, which he very clearly was not this year.
BOILER UP!! 2010-2011
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
I was a little disappointed in Celek
But it’s not because of his lack of stats. I understand he had to block a lot more. I’m fine with him not putting up the same numbers. Mainly, it wasn’t his fault.
But what I was disappointed in was his plethora of penalties, dropped passes, and his body language when he’d do either of the two (raises arms like “what did I do, it wasn’t me!”). I don’t know what the final count was, but he had to have at least 1 or 2 stupid penalties per game.
I’m okay with him coming back as the clear-cut TE1 next year. I don’t consider TE a position of need this offseason. But I’m not okay with his mental lapses throughout the season. He’s gotta get better at that.
Amen
To Smitty and Transplant below. He had better bounce back big next year.
Just sign a damn blocking TE to free him up
by DLawrence55 on Jan 13, 2011 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
I was also a little disappointed
For most of the same reasons Smitty mentioned. Seemed like he had a lot of drops this year. I know during his should-have-been pro bowl year, he had a lot of drops too, but dropping 10 balls doesn’t matter when you catch 70+. Some of them I don’t put on him because he was about to get destroyed, but there were times where it just seemed like he had stone hands out there.
I’m still pretty pleased with him as a player though. I love it when he does catch a ball and it takes 3 defenders to bring him down in a big wrestling match. He may not catch everything, but when he does, he makes you pay.
Let the beasting begin.
by TransplantedFan on Jan 13, 2011 10:12 AM EST up reply actions
We Don't Need A Big Body TE...
He have Todd Herremans. He had almost as man TDs this year as Celek… :-)
But seriously, Celek will be fine as soon as we sure up the OL. We saw what he was capable of in the ‘09-’10 season. This positions is definitely not a top priority in the off season. If we fix the OL and CB positions, at the very least, we’ll be sitting pretty nice next year. Hell, I think we had a pretty good rebuilding year…
Scrapple - It's not just for breakfast anymore...
Yeah, there were some lapses by Celek this year
But as said he did have to block more this year, and there were some highlights (second Giants game, Houston game). I’m OK with him as our #1 TE.
Go Eagles!
Celek
As mentioned before from other posters I am not thrilled with the drops but there were a few this year (not just from him) that were big. I am okay with him being our #1TE. Clay I am not overly excited about and would really like to see Cornelius Ingram get on the field. If we do go to more two tight end sets that would give us a lot of play calling flexibility with Celek and an athletic talent like Ingram.
Celek – Way too many drops this year, but he never really was able to get into a rhythm, as he was employed in a new scheme (it’s called our o-line sucks rhinoceros pole) that called for more blocking than route-running (and he actually didn’t do a bad job). I think that with improvements to the o-line, Celek should return to form next year.
Harbor – Highlight of the season was a nice back-of-the-endzone catch against Minnesota. Other than that, pretty unspectacular but I don’t think anyone expected him to be Tony Gonzalez, especially not in his rookie year. He’s not bad as an insurance policy.
Ingram – I’m pulling for him, I really am, but history isn’t on his side, and it seems like God just doesn’t want this man to play in the NFL.
Nalbone – I know nothing about him other than what this article said, so I’ll refrain from commenting.
I see some people talking about signing Boss, but I doubt New York will let him get away, and I don’t think we need him if Celek comes back around. Bo Scaife could be sweet as a backup.
Respect is not given, it is earned goddoggit! - Brian Dawkins
Sadly
Ingram seems to be trying through and the good thing is at least an NFL Dr. did his second surgery. So I do cross my fingers on that one because I think he could really contribute
Fun fact: Gronkowski is a converted quarterback, which gives the coaches the option to try a trick play or two.
TE Wildcat!!!
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
RIP Sean McDermott's job.
Celek made big plays when we needed them
The catch against Chicago when we were starting to mount a comeback, the long TD in the Giants comeback, the one that sticks out in my mind though, was that 3rd and 19 play in the Texans game where he fought for those few extra yards and wound up getting a first down, leading to the TD that sealed the game.
I think most Eagles fans appreciate Celek and understand the reasons for his statistical decline. The majority of the negativity towards him came from the national media, that only see the fantasy stats.
Nalbone
I have to assume that this Nalbone is related to the Trenton Times reporter of the same name, yes?
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