Eagles Position Reviews: Quarterback

Have the Niners settled on Troy Smith as their QBOTF? Because if he reaches free agency, I’d try to snatch him up – he’s as close to a Vick clone as there is in the NFL.

I’m one who is of the mind that KK should be the starter and Vick should be shipped to another team. Other-world talent, amazing story, teammates love him, it’d be very hard to trade Vick. It’d be especially hard since he’s at the end of his contract. But it’s the right thing to do.

With his style, I am concerned that he’ll continue to miss playing time.

KK has to get a chance. I think we’ll regret letting him go in a big way if we keep Vick and trade KK. Vick’s stock will never be higher.

I don’t believe there’s any doubt that Vick will continue to miss more and more playing time. And there’s a reason the remaining QBs in the playoffs don’t have the same style as Vick. Mobile QBs win games. Running QBs get hurt too easily in this day and age of the NFL.

Franchise Vick (if that’s part of the new CBA) and trade him for the bounty he’ll no doubt command. Let KK have his shot in Eagle Green.

I kinda agree with Bisch. I really found myself hating the organization a lot for what they did with the QBs. But at the same time, the whole point of last year was to get Kolb the experience as a start, and while he did a fairly good job when he did start, he’ll still have the growing pains(IE, playing a 16+ game schedule). So if we do trade Vick, last year was just a wast of everybody’s time, because we could have had the experience next year, but will now need to wait two years. I just find it hard to believe that the team, especially the way Reid love the mobil QB more, parting ways with MV. I say trade Kolb, though we will probably have to send more picks to help negate the 2 first rounders. like, we will get two 1st and a 2nd, and give up 2 1st and a 5th.

When is the earliest we can trade him for picks? I’ll drive him to the airport.

I wouldn’t mind picking up troy smith.

Vick gives us a better chance to do that…I say keep em both.

So many people trying to run Vick out of town. Do any of you realize the reason we made it this far this year. We gave up 50 sacks with an elusive quarterback. Do you think Kolb would have survived. Kolb was hurt in the FIRST game, yet Vicks durability is an issue??? If you want longevity out of a quarterback spend some money and protect him. No matter who is in at quarterback he needs to have better protection than was provided this year. I mean how spoiled are we when a quarterback puts up 292 yards, a touchdown, and another one rushing and it’s not good enough for us. Why does the team have to rely on him and not compliment him. If Vick walks and finds a team that will protect him, and actually run the ball, watch out. We can let him walk, but it will come back to haunt us.

Vick did this season, but I too am hesitant to make him our future QB. It’s highly unlikely that Vick will ever put together a season like he did this year and his trade value will never be higher than it is right now.

I kinda think if we can get a nice package for him then we should trade him. We were ready to trade Vick and roll with Kolb this year; now Vick’s trade stock is higher and we still have Kolb for relatively cheap.

I’d rather have Kolb and a bunch of high rookies than Vick and no decent backup.

If Vick is traded, it better not be somewhere where he can actually succeed/or a rival. (especially an: NFC West team, NFC East team, or any NFC team for that matter.)

I want the KK enigma to stop, personally. It’s sickening. Just be clearly good, or just clearly suck. Make it easy on us!

back up the truck, back it up.

Vick is on a very short leash with the Commish. One mistake and and we could really be screwed.

Eskin said after Vick’s birthday party that we were going to release Vick and try to get Smith from Baltimore so if we trade Kolb it wouldn’t surprise me if we bring in Troy Smith to be the backup.

I think the eagles should keep vick not because i would look like an idiot with this screen name but because he will have a lot more time to practice with this team of very talented receivers and running backs. All the Rookies on this team will have an off season of training under their belts and we will have a better team after the draft.

I think you have to pull a Ruben Amaro Jr. and try to win RIGHT NOW. The Eagles’ decade or so of consistent success has been nice, but do you really expect that to continue forever? Especially in this division? This team is one big push away from the promised land, and if you go with Kolb, you risk setting them back a couple of years while Kolb develops.

I’m no doom and gloom guy. I’m not saying the Eagles’ days are numbered or anything. But do you want to risk that they are? Two other teams have made the postseason as often as the Eagles over the past decade: the Pats and the Colts. They both have something to show for it. It’s our turn now.

I know this team is young and positioned to contend for many years to come, but I’ll take my chances with another year of Mike Vick with (hopefully) an improved O-Line and defensive unit.

And settle for years of mediocrity!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Because Vick will get hurt? Because Kolb was mis-treated?? Ridiculously unjustifiable reasons.

We have a Pro-bowler. He’s the reason we were playoff bound. He masked our evident weaknesses.

Maybe he gets hurt…. Maybe Kolb gets hurt, shit.

Unbelievable!

Don’t Laugh. Andy LOVES him, was gonna draft him the year before we selected Kolb. He has a grood arm and is accurate, but is a bit of a knuckle head.

If Matt can control his off the field issues, Andy can make him into a stud. I don’t know if Matt is a Free Agent or if it would require a trade. I could see us trading a 7th or 6th rounder for Matt.

Only half-kidding. Trade Kolb, draft impact defenders, and bring back McNabb to be the understudy to Vick. I’ve heard this story before: We trade away our #1 starter only to bring him back one year later to be our #2. I never thought I’d see Cliff Lee back either.

It would make sense for the Eagles to trade Kolb for draft picks; he’s already making it clear that wherever he plays, he wants to be the starter, and that won’t be the case if Vick remains with the team (which is probably a foregone conclusion at this point). However, there is a bit of a caveat here; what happens if the Eagles sign Vick to a short -term deal, say by placing the franchise tag on him? He’s on the wrong side of 30, and toward the end of the season he started to look an awful lot like Atlanta Vick, the one who had trouble reading defenses, threw costly interceptions when he could least afford them, was inaccurate with some of his passes, and relied on his legs far too often, resulting in more punishment than any quarterback should take. The hits he absorbed this season took their toll; that has to weigh on the minds of Reid and the rest of the front office brass. Taking all this into consideration, should they risk signing him to a long-term deal and trade Kolb, who for all intents and purposes is uninjured, and who will only be 27 next year? Or do they go with the STILL-unproven Kolb and cut Vick loose to sign with whomever he pleases? By going short-term with Vick and trading Kolb, the Eagles have at most two or three more winning seasons ahead of them, and could find themselves in need of a brand-new QB even before that. By going long-term with him, they run the risk of signing an aging, injury-prone QB whom defensive coordinators just might have figured out. It’s a long offseason, and Vick will have ample time to heal, but I’m not as worried about that as I am the fact that after about five or six games this season, the mystery of how to contain Vick was unraveled, if only partially. A lot of teams would love to have Kolb, but a lot of teams would also love to have Vick; I think it’s all a question of what the market will bear, and whether the Eagles can significantly improve their offensive line; if they can, that’s a reason for keeping Kolb, who would have suffered behind deficient protection all season had he started. On the other hand, Vick’s playmaking ability is incontrovertable; he can change a game with one throw or one juke. Reid and Co. have some serious decision-making to do; with Vick the Eagles can win presently, but he won’t be able to play at the same elite level four or five years from now. With Kolb, the Eagles invest in their future, but we must be prepared for some disappointing seasons. Of course, this is all assuming there is even a 2011 season.

so let’s trade him. Remember when the Patriots tried to trade Tom Brady had his record-breaking season?…me neither!

Keep Vick, trade Kolb for picks, draft an O-line and DB, and sign a free agent back-up QB.

I think the decision comes down to whether Reid believes the team can win a SB with Vick in the next two or three years or is there a greater chance of winning a SB when Kolb in 30-32 and has had a couple years starting. Either way I will root for whoever the starter is.

what is wrong with us as a fanbase? After reading a lot of responses on here concerning Vick and Kolb I am suprised how nearsighted we are. First with Vick: Yes we all know that he is getting older and took a large amount of hits this year. Yes we also saw his number decline towards the end of the season, but still put out great numbers considering other teams and QB’s. What I dont get is how easy we forget that Vick pretty much made a lot of the offense happen based upon his play and putting the team on his shoulders. Its easy when the team loses to say that it was Vicks fault but its pretty naive to actually believe that.

Do we not realize that our o-line couldnt block for shit and that any quarterback I mean any would have declining numbers. You dont take a QB who started as a 2nd stringer with limited reps with the starting offense, puts up a career year and then trade him or reduce him to back up. Thats just ludicrous. Its like any business, when an employee is initially hired, does well but than another employee comes in and totally makes more happen with less, you have to stay with the employee that is making it work with less. What the FO should be focused on is shoring our o-line, continue working on Vick as a passer and revamping our defense because if our defense could actually stop a team from time to time, then everything wouldnt be on Vick to continously make plays happen.

Kolb is unproven and a rare commodity as a trade. He has enough stats to garner interest. He is good but if we keep Vick for another 4 years with top notch QB coaching while grooming a good replacement why wouldnt we? It would be like slapping someone in the face after having them post record profits for your company and demoting them. Just makes zero business sense. Just remember our team was supposed to be transitional and we ended up where we are more often than not because of Vicks play. Imagine actually giving him a defense that can give the offense more time on the field and an o-line that actually doesnt get him killed on the first play of the game.

You guys are killing me with the trade Vick and hope Kolb works. If that happens I would expect a little bit longer of “transisitional” years.

Based on the offense’s philosophy, I personally think Kolb just do ont fit, he gets too conservative sometimes and still throws INTs like a mofo. If either QB stays the line still needs fixing so that part of the argument is a wash. This year Vick removed Kolbs acc edge being a 62% passer and all. Injuries are a random variables that cant be considered. The edge Kolb naturally has is his age which I can care less because the NFL is win now league. Plus I want to win now so I easily pick Vick.

I have a lot to get off my chest.

What are the odds that he repeats that though?
 
Better than Kolbs.

Vick gives us a better shot at winning/playoff birth/super bowl. Which is what I thought we were all going for here.

Trade Kolb!

Micheal Vick put up 30 overall touchdowns in 11.5 games!!!! He was on pace for 29tds,4,000 yds,almost 1000 rushing yards and would have ran for 13 Td’s!!

He has a great shot of repeating or even improving next year,as the O-line will improve(hopefully),playing the NFC west and he will get more accustomed to the playbook.

Kolb is NOT gonna win as many games as Vick,which in the end matters most.Even though Vick is not a long term answer ,we have enough talent and firepower in our offense to support our next QB.Kolb can easily be traded for high round draft picks,and for those who are afraid of Vick getting injured,there are credible backups that we can sign to replace KK.