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Insane Predictions 2010

NFL seasons never go according to plan.  Last year, who would have predicted Desean Jackson would have all of those 50+ yard TD?  Who would have guessed the Jets would make the AFC Championship game with a rookie QB? Finally, who would have thought the hapless New Orleans Saints franchise would shock the proverbial world and win the Super Bowl?  

 

So with a new season on the rise, I'm going to make a humble attempt at make some off-the-wall predictions that could actually come true.   If you have any freaky forecasts, feel free to add them.  Just make sure your cowboy predictions are negative...

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The Raiders will win their division.  I'm basing that on an improved defense anchored by Richard Seymour and rookie Rolando McClain.  And their offense will be shockingly efficient with Campbell and company.  

The Jets will finish third in their division behind the Pats and the Phins.  I'm not sure Shonn Greene, nor Complainian Tomlinson will maintain their fierce running attack like Thomas Jones did last year.  Plus, without Revis, I see their defense susceptible to big plays.  Rex is the man, but I think he'll be more angry than jolly this year.

Matt Schaub will be the highest rated quarterback in the NFL.  The West Chester East grad has the best WR in the game with Andre Johnson, an emerging Jacoby Jones, and an upgraded running game (Arian Foster).  Every year Schaub has improved, and I think many people will finally notice how good he is.  

Pete Carroll won't finish the year as coach of the Seahawks.  Have you seen that roster?  They actually WANTED Stacy Andrews!  Enough said...

The Lions will have a better record than da Bears.  In fact, the Lions will beat Chicago both times they play them.  

Roy Williams and Dez Bryant come to blows at some point this season.  Roy will lose the fight because he'll be trying to kick Dez to death, because Williams has no idea how to use his hands...

The Saints will win the NFC South. That's not so shocking except they'll be the first team to repeat as division champ since that division's inception.    

Roethilisberger will return from his suspension and throw a ton of interceptions.  He'll try to cram his ball into unwanted places (sorry)...

Finally our Eagles...sigh...I really want to be positive, but I'm not feeling good about this year.  The Eagles produce one Pro Bowler...David Akers.   

 

There's my predictions.  The one thing I do know is that I will be glued to every Eagles game this year.  

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Which event will most likely occur this season?
Roy Williams and Dez Bryant fight (verbally or physically)
27 votes
The Raiders win their division (don't laugh)
16 votes
The Eagles have one or two Pro Bowlers
39 votes
Roethlisberger plays poorly after his suspension
31 votes
Matt Schaub will be considered a top 5 quarterback
128 votes

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Those are all very likely in my opinion. I went with the Eagles having two Pro-bowlers though. Weaver is practically a lock, and if we don’t have at least one more I would be absolutely shocked.

My crazy prediction: Lions, Browns, and Raiders all finish at or above .500, and one of them makes the playoffs. Say what?

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by DeSean10 on Sep 5, 2010 11:27 AM EDT reply actions  

No way all of them

I would give each of them a 50/50 shot. But one could likely make the playoffs.

It turns out I overestimated my apathy, but not enough to matter.

by einman77 on Sep 6, 2010 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

I predict Trent Cole, Brent Celek, and DeSean Jackson make the Pro Bowl.

Sometimes it's just fun to take the family for a spin around the lake in the old boat. Even if it's not your family or your boat, and they're screaming for you to stop.

by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Sep 6, 2010 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brandon Graham, and Bradley.

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb

"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.

by wild_eagle on Sep 7, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt Graham

but it certainly is a possibility

by Desean Da Man on Sep 8, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was more naming the "locks"

although of the bunch akers seems least like it because their is only 1 kicker spot

by Desean Da Man on Sep 8, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Never any locks...

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb

"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.

by wild_eagle on Sep 9, 2010 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do you mean only 1 or 2 probowlers? or if we have 3 does that still count?

Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ

by sports00fan00 on Sep 5, 2010 11:37 AM EDT reply actions  

Not to be a jerk...

I was just saying that the Eagles will go from having like 6,7, or 8 Pro Bowlers to having very few. I feel like the Eagles will be perceived as an inconsistent team, and other players will get the nod over guys like Desean and Celek.

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

You da man, DeSean10

I really like the Lions. Their defense is still not good, but their offense has tons of potential. Stafford is the real deal. Calvin Johnson has suffered with garbage QB since his college days at Georgia Tech. But I think he finally gains chemistry with Stafford. Best and Smith are a good RB tandem.

I already talked about the Raiders. I think McFadden finally understands that he’s gotta produce. Plus, when Michael Bush heals up from a thumb injury, he’ll be a huge boost (remember when he went off on the Bucs to catapult the Eagles to the playoffs in ’08?).

The Browns have an underrated running game, but Delhomme is a bum. I know one thing; Mangini will be coaching for his life. He’s out if they go 4-12.

Good stuff. I love the conversation.

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

I actually like the possibility of Delhomme having a good season this year, but I really like Seneca Wallace too. They’ll be lucky to finish 8-8, but I think they’ll do it.

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by DeSean10 on Sep 5, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

If/when the Browns finish 8-8, Mangini’s job will be safe. I actually thought Mangini would get the ax after this season, and Big Red would take the Browns’ job.

Anyway, the Browns are interesting. I forgot to mention Joshua Cribbs earlier. I think they find more ways to implement him into the offense.

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hate Mangini. Worst coach in the history of coaching. I feel bad for Browns fans.

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JIBTA’s actually Jack Ikegwuonu... and he’s f***ing pissed.
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by DeSean10 on Sep 5, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Erc Mangini=Josh McDaniel

They both think they are smarter than the room. Meanwhile, they are both frauds. The Broncos will be fortunate to win 5 games this year.

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

the browns really have if anything else a physical defense i mean the whole LB core is like the bad news bears and ever last one of the bring the wood when they hit you . sheldon brown we know what he does and jerome harrison i think is the truth watch out for peyton hillis and james davis also

by FLAeagle on Sep 5, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's one for you.

The Skins, Giants, and Eagles all finish under .500.

Veritas Liberabit Te

by DSmith215 on Sep 5, 2010 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed...

The only thing that would prevent the Giants from being under .500 is if they find their missing pass rush. Brandon Jacobs might be a locker room cancer, so that’s not in their favor. He’s already moaning about losing the starting spot to Bradshaw.

But the Eagles and Skins are done, IMO.

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Eagles are “done”? O ye of little faith!

I put a dollar in a change machine. Nothing changed.

by alcatraz0109 on Sep 5, 2010 12:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yep. The Eagles are done...

The talent is there. Unfortunately, our beloved head coach is not a detailed oriented coach. McNabb and Westbrook covered up a lot of the coach’s weaknesses.

This year, Reid will be exposed. Either I’m right and the team folds because he doesn’t put the chess pieces in the right places. Or I’m wrong and Reid orchestrates good offensive game plans, and the defense plays like a juggernaut.

I say we’re doomed for a 7-9 season full with roller coaster rides.

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow

I definitely think you’re wrong!

Reid is by no means perfect, but he’s a good coach! He may have trouble with clock management, and he may not manage a clock well, but you’re being MUCH to hard on a guy that’s done nothing but win since he’s been here.

"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)

by jalarsen1 on Sep 5, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry

I didn’t mean to mention clock management twice…one of those should say that he’s not good at adjusting his game plan mid-game

"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)

by jalarsen1 on Sep 5, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's okay...

I just made a typo, too. I meant to say we’ll struggle agains the Titans.

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think Reid covered more for Donovan’s weaknesses than the other way around. He adjusted an offense predicated on the quick accurate throw to go with donovan’s style and made it work. I have always been a McNabb fan but he has accuracy issues most of the time and he in no way excels at the 3 step drop

by 0sirys on Sep 5, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

The way Eagles fans sound, it seemed like Donovan McNabb was the worst QB of all time. Read my lips…NO QB CAN START 11 YEARS IN THE NFL IF THEY CAN’T THROW ACCURATE PASSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’m tired of reading that mess. Especially since the Eagles have rarely had a WR who can get off of a jam in time to receive a “3 step drop”.

Here’s a news flash: Quarterbacks don’t always hit their throws. They make errant passes. If Donovan McNabb was truly “inaccurate”, how did the Eagles win all of those games with him at the helm? How did they win in the playoffs?

Oh yeah, it was the defense…

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

did i say he can’t throw accurate passes. i said he has accuracy issues. he is rarely spot on with a pass nor does he lead receivers well. To be honest he has been worse since the sports hernia/ ACL he never had a chance to get his mechanics back right. In case you missed it I AM A MCNABB FAN. I am one of the few Eagles fans that hates the redskins more than the Giants or the Cowboys and I am still a McNabb fan but to not acknowledge the mans weaknesses is completely ignorant. He is not a west coast offense quarterback by any means. I never said he was bad, I never said he was completely inaccurate. I pointed out Donovan’s weaknesses of which he does actually have some

by 0sirys on Sep 6, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

he is rarely spot on with a pass nor does he lead receivers well

Of course, McNabb has weaknesses. He does have that the tendency to get cold in the course of the game. His numbers bare out that he’s a 60% passer when he should be about 63-65%.

I get the gist of what you’re saying, but I think your language is too strong. Guys who are “rarely spot on” with their passes are guys like JaWalrus Russell or Matt Leinart who were demoted as starters. McNabb just isn’t elite like Brees or Peyton (but who is?).

If we expect Kolb to be elite like the Bradys and Breeses and Peytons, we will be disappointed. Just like some expect McNabb to be like them. However, could Brady or Peyton run for a first down? Nope. Could McNabb? Yep. I won’t begrudge Brady for not being to run, and I won’t begrudge McNabb for not being able to hit Todd Pinkston on a quick slant.

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 6, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

What?

I don’t want my QB to run for a first down, I want an accurate slant pass to get me the 10 and maybe more. Bad comparison there. No one is saying Mcnabb was garbage, but to not address that he had flaws in accuracy, and consistency is wrong. He was accurate at times, but not consistently enough and that’s why he struggled heavily in our offense at times. Go look at the Dallas games again and look at how far off the CB’s are from the line of scrimmage. They are almost 10 yards off of it practically every play. Mcnabb struggled with his short passes and if he didn’t hit the his first few, you almost knew what kind of day he was going to have.

by Team Serbia on Sep 6, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

No argument here

I did concede McNabb’s weaknesses in my first paragraph. However, I guess I was saying that he overcame his weaknesses with his running ability, and overall moxie. Critics of McNabb refuse to concede this fact.

You’re right; ideally no one wants their QB running.

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 6, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay

Fair enough. We, no doubt, had a great decade with Mcnabb. I don’t think anyone will disagree. But his flaws were becoming more and more evident as he started losing his ability to mask these deficiencies by using his legs.

by Team Serbia on Sep 6, 2010 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

You'd be surprised how many fools out there literally hate McNabb...

This blog is refreshing. The Philly.com crowd is generally comprised of idiots.

But most of the folks on BGN are reasonable (including yourself). I just think that many people talk about what McNabb COULDN’T do waaaaaaaayyyy more than what he COULD do.

But, hey, that’s Philly for you…

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 6, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

a lot of those people are probably just trying to convince themselves McNabb sucks to increase their confidence in the McNabb trade.

by eagleyosh on Sep 6, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

From a business perspective, the trade makes sense to me. The Eagles weren’t going to sign a 34 year old McNabb to a long-term deal.

From a football perspective, I say figure out a way to keep Kolb and McNabb. Of course, that’s unrealistic.

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 6, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Read my lips…NO ONE CAN COACH FOR 11 YEARS IN THE NFL IF THEY CAN’T WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stop being a bitch.

by AZ Eagle on Sep 6, 2010 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm gonna pretend you didn't say I was "being a bitch"...

I credit Andy Reid with the following (let me know if I’m missing something):

-establishing an identity for the team.

-knowing when to let go of veterans before they decline.

-drafting well (every team misses here and there but the Eagles usually hit on their picks)

-being aggressive. I didn’t like the onside kick last against the Skins last year, but I like the fact we are not conservative all the time.
 
-Reid’s demeanor. Clearly the players respect Reid. His personality grates on some fans, but they don’t understand that his demeanor works with the players. And that’s all that matters.

I’m sure there are other things I could include, but I’ll stop there. I just wanted to prove to you I’m not one of these meatball fans who just blows smoke. I’ll give Reid credit where credit is due. That’s more than what I can say to the McNabb haters, or Reid haters out there.

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 6, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reid will be exposed? I think after over a decade of being a head coach for a team you’ve pretty much already been exposed for what you are. In this case that’s a very successful, consistently winning head coach.

by AZ Eagle on Sep 6, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

So do you expect a learning curve for the younger players, or do you expect them to win immediately?

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 6, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was calling out the “exposing Reid” part of the comment here. I don’t think there’s much exposing to be done, we know what Reid is by now.

As for the young players question, I think we’ll see improvements as the season goes on for some of our rookies and Kolb. At least I hope we will. In cases of Kolb and Allen I’d expect to see some mistakes in judgement made from time to time. However I have no problem thinking they’ll be a winning team this year. I don’t think we’re at a super bowl level this year it pains me to say, but I still think we’re at a playoff level even with the younger players. The truth is with the exception of Kolb our first year starters are clear upgrades to what we had at that position last year, even with them making a few rookie mistakes.

by AZ Eagle on Sep 6, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the "exposing Reid" comment was fair...

Reid did an excellent job with our young players when McNabb was in his first full year as a starter. We made the playoffs, and won a game in the postseason. The year after that, we made it all the way to the NFCCG and lost to the Rams. Clearly we were on the rise.

You already know the rest of the story. My main point is that Reid seemed to do a better job with the young players when he was early on in his regime. I’d love to see a repeat performance of that, but why didn’t he implement some of those same strategies (like utilizing a running game) in recent years?

Lastly, I think Reid and the Eagles have more talent in 2010 than in 2000. If the Eagles don’t replicate some of 2000’s success, isn’t it fair to make Reid somewhat culpable?

Like I said before, I’ll be the first one to admit I was wrong if the Eagles have a good year. I’m just not optimistic.

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 6, 2010 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

The rest of the NFC

was kinda garbage back then too though, we were always a first seed, but now there’s a lot more competition, especially in our division.. but still really great points

we had 44-6
you had 58-14
now we want an eagles SuperBowl win in Dallas next season

by maximdim on Sep 6, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Done?

Really? Before the season even starts?

The cowboys have looked worse than us on both sides of the ball; their O Line is suspect, and their depth is worse.

The Skins have no one to throw the ball to, and a suspect O Line as well.

The Giants have their own questions.

I’m not ready to call us division winners, but there’s no reason to think we can’t be competitive. Our starting defense has only looked good, with the exception of Hanson getting beat by Owens. And the pieces are in place for our offense to be successful, we just have to find a rhythm. It’s not that we’re missing major pieces.

"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)

by jalarsen1 on Sep 5, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Division...

Your Skins assessment is spot on.

The Giants do have questions. But Coughlin is a proven winner, and I think they get back to basics on offense.

The cowboys will play well, unfortunately. Jason Garrett is a fraud as an OC, but even he can’t screw up their offense. Their o-line is suspect, though. The cowboys defense will carry them this season.

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the Giants are going to do well because Coughlin (111-95) is a proven winner, shouldn’t the eagles do well since Reid is a proven winner (108-67-1)?

by eagleyosh on Sep 5, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Jay

seems bitter about Reid’s lack of a ring.

There’s a lot of luck behind a SB victory…(the catch, injuries, etc…)

"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)

by jalarsen1 on Sep 5, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not bitter, and there's no such thing as luck...

I’m not going to lay all or most of the blame for our lack of ring on the feet of Reid. However, moving forward his current style of coaching doesn’t bode well for the Eagles’ future as a SB winning team.

In the past, it seemed like Reid had a varied offense. Even then, he’d lack playmakers, when it was clear that the team needed explosive players. Now it seems like the offense is predictable.

I’m not one of these guys who blames the coach for everything; players gotta make plays. But I do believe Reid is somewhat culpable for the team’s current state.

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I agree with you

our offense has looked predictable…

but there is DEFINITELY luck in the SB!!!

A twist of ankle, a roll of the ball, Tyree catching the ball on his helmet…anything like that doesn’t happen, and it’s a different winner.

Not everything in the game is under your control is all I’m saying

"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)

by jalarsen1 on Sep 5, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definately

People like to think of coaching as a chess match. But in chess there is no difference in outcome between your thoughts and the piece you are moving. In football things always go haywire. Coaching is more like playing poker and chess at the same time, where each peice has a certain percentage of doing this, this and that, and all the percentages intermingle.

The superbowl is the culmination of all those percentages, and the consequences of those chances are greatly magnified as the playoffs come around. So yes, there is a bit more than a bit of luck.

It turns out I overestimated my apathy, but not enough to matter.

by einman77 on Sep 6, 2010 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your logic makes sense...

I guess I need to be specific:

Couglin’s philosophy, though painfully conservative, is strong run game and stout defense. It worked for him with the Jaguars, and it has worked in New York.

Reid’s philosophy is a flurry of passes. Some deep, some short. He also believes in a stout defense.

The biggest difference is it seems Couglin is a stickler for details, whereas Reid seems more “loosy goosy”.

That lack of attention to details is not going to help our young team. If I’m wrong, I’ll be the first one to admit it.

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Be around
That lack of attention to details is not going to help our young team. If I’m wrong, I’ll be the first one to admit it.

Reid’s strength seems to be in the details and the nuts and bolts of coaching and not the game-day decisions. His record coming out of the bye and in the first round of the playoffs tends to indicate he does well given time.

I don’t want to get into a big, long thing on this one. I certainly think youth could be our downfall this year, or just being not as talented/cohesive/experienced as some other elite teams. I don’t often see a huge difference between 7-9 and 9-7 … but I really don’t think the Eagles will be bad this year. Given that the “easier” teams are in the front part of the schedule and that the Eagles tend to stumble early and finish strong, both the schedule and circumstances allow for this to be perceived as one of Reid’s best coaching jobs.

If I’m wrong, I’ll be here.

But I’m pretty sure when the Birds get no further than they did last season that there will be some discussion as to what a job the coaching staff & FO did … because right now the (national?) perception is that this team is a lot worse than it probably will end up being.

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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Sep 5, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right now

I have the Giants at 7-9

Skins at 5-11

Eagles at 10-6

"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)

by jalarsen1 on Sep 5, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eagles will lose to...

Giants once
Skins once
cowboys twice
Falcons
Colts
Houston
Packers
Niners

They’re gonna struggle against the Lions and Falcons, too. I think the upset the Vikings for some reason. So even if you think the Eagles split against the cowboys or sweep the Skins, they’ll have a hard time with the teams I just mentioned. Sorry, it’s gonna be a long year my friend. But I think we’ll see glimpses of the future.

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yay for predicting the schedule before we even know if those teams are gonna be any good!

I put a dollar in a change machine. Nothing changed.

by alcatraz0109 on Sep 5, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Predictions...

Hey, I’m just a knucklehead guy with an opinion. In this blog , we just shoot the breeze. That’s all my predictions are. I don’t take myself too seriously, like Chris Berman or one of those dopes on ESPN.

Just educated guesses….

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Berman

I can’t stand the guy, but you couldn’t have picked a much worse example for “takes himself too seriously.” The guy that’s known for goofy nicknames?

There’s way too much BS on this thread for me to want to engage (Jason Garrett a fraud? Reid’s style can’t win a Super Bowl?) but that one was a layup.

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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Sep 5, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

What I meant was...

Berman thinks the game (telecast) is about…HIM. That’s why he creates those lame nicknames. Guys like Jim Nantz, James Brown, and Pat Summerall, stay out of the way.

Berman’s HOF speech was like 30 minutes. There’s no need for all of that. Plus have you seen his tirades? He’s a fat, sweaty diva.

And yes, Jason Garrett is a fraud, and if any coach’s offense is predictable, they won’t win the SB.

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Valid points

on the broadcasters. I much prefer guys who know their shit and eschew the shucking and jiving.

On Jason Garrett, I can’t speak ill about the man after the way he pwned the Eagles last year, then gave them a week to study him, and he did it again.

I also think you’re a little quick to judge Josh McDaniels and Mangini. Being annoying and being bad football coaches are not necessarily the same thing. McDaniels strikes me as someone with a lot of potential; he went out of his way to make Shanahan’s roster worse and finished the same 8-8 with it.

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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Sep 7, 2010 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have us losing to:

Packers, Colts, Texans, Vikings, Giants once, Cowboys once

And of course there could be a “raiders” game in there too…

I don’t think the Cowboys sweep us, I don’t think the niners or falcons beat us…

"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)

by jalarsen1 on Sep 5, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough...

The Eagles usually play well on the road, but it’s asking a lot to think we’ll beat the cowboys at their place. In your defense, they are playing them late them at dallas late in the season.

The Niners are gonna be a juggernaut this year. Alex Smith is average at best, but the rest of the team is stout.

I live in Atlanta, and I hate the Falcons. I’ve loved talking smack the last 2 or 3 times we’ve beaten the Falcons. But this year, I think they might have our number.

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

We're missing one major piece...

A head coach who has a reasonable offensive game plan. The NFL is a pass first league now. I don’t blame Reid for passing 60% of the time. My problem is that it seems like the offense is predictable. Many times, I’ve noticed the team will execute a playaction fake, and no one buys it. I’m no football expert, but I would utilize the playaction after I’ve established 3 or 4 effective running plays.

Don’t get me wrong; Reid isn’t a “bad” coach. I just feel like his offensive philosophy won’t win a Super Bowl.

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by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

it clearly hasn't won a superbowl yet

but the WCO is built around short passes essentially substituting for a running game. We haven’t had a QB who was accurate to throw those passes.

I’m willing to give Reid a year or two with a true WC QB before losing faith in his game plan.

I’m excited because I LOVED the offense he ran with Garcia at the helm in ’06…and I expect something similar this year

"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)

by jalarsen1 on Sep 5, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with all of the Garcia comparisons

And I really think Kolb is going to be a lot like him. Early in the season, he’ll make a few bad decisions in most games, but he’ll get past that with experience. Maybe I’m a blind optimist, but my prediction is the Eagles make a playoff run at the end of the season when Kolb gets more experience and beat the Cowgirls in Week 17 to take the NFC East. I’m really excited about the young roleplayers we have in place, and I think we get a Super Bowl within the next 5 years.

Then again, I always think way too highly of the Eagles, so I’m probably just drinking the kool aid. I’m excited for this season.

R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)

by Carolina Iggle on Sep 5, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay...

Garcia was lightning in the bottle. Reid did an excellent job that year. However, I just don’t see history repeating itself. Jon Gruden had a similar experience when he won the SB with Brad Johnson. But we see where Gruden is right now (I do enjoy him on MNF, though).

Say what you want about McNabb, but he had that “it” factor that could turn something out of nothing.

4th and 26.
14 second scramble and 60 yd heave agasint the punk cowboys
 Leading the team in rushing AND passing
Throwing 3 TD (and a shovel pass) on a fractured leg
Playing through a sports hernia
Passing for 200/running for 100 yds in a PLAYOFF GAME
Winning 2 playoff games on the road in ’08

Kolb is a true WC QB, but I hope he’s a winner. We had a winner…

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 12:56 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

i got some

Sane predictions:

Maclin has more receiving yards at the end of the season than Jackson
McNabb starts less than 10 games for the Skins
Both the AFC and NFC West division winners will have less than 10 wins
TJ Whosurmamma signs with the Vikings, but the bears should go after him first
The Colts win less than 12 games

Insane/less sane predictions

Eagles trade Vick before the deadline to a QB needy team and sign Troy Smith
Brett Favre and Peyton Manning both miss at least one start this season
Dennis Dixon gets a start over Big Ben, after his suspension
Dallas does not make the playoffs ( i see a late season nosedive circa 2008 Broncos)
Tampa Bay will win more games than the Panthers

Where one era ends, another begins

by BadCo'09 on Sep 5, 2010 1:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I think

Maclin will have more receptions, but fewer yards that Jackson

McNabb will start most of the season, but they’ll still struggle to win 6 games

"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)

by jalarsen1 on Sep 5, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

if i was a skins fan

id be worried about putting mcnabb infront of their o line and having a running back team that has aarp cards

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by BadCo'09 on Sep 5, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Their O-Line is a lot better than it was ...

… it might actually be more talented than ours. Trent Williams, Artis Hicks, Rabach, Dockery and Jammal Brown might have a little more pedigree than Peters, Herremans, Jackson/McGlynn, Cole and Justice. I don’t know.

The difference is those guys are all learning the Shanahan zone blocking scheme whereas most of the Eagles’ guys have been in the system several years.

Portis looks rejuvenated, and I have a sneaking suspicion this Haynesworth stuff is gonna be swept under the rug or otherwise made a non-issue for them by the time the season is really rolling.

I actually worry about losing to the Redskins this year. (Shit, we got swept by the ZornSkins two years ago) … the good news is that roster is O-L-D old so if they max out at 10-6 this year or next, it’ll be mostly downhill from there while we’re just beginning to peak.

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by D3Keith on Sep 7, 2010 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

On Cowboy nosedive. Once the wear and tear of the season tests their OLine depth, they’ll look like we did at the end of last year. A lot of offensive firepower with no time to get the ball out.

"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)

by jalarsen1 on Sep 5, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

my thoughts exactly

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by BadCo'09 on Sep 5, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good stuff, sir...

I really agree with your Houshmandzadeh assessment; they only have 4 WR at this moment.

The Colts’ defense will be the reason they win less than 12 games (and like you said, Peyton will miss a start or two because I have him on a fantasy team for the first time).

I’d really love to see the cowboys miss the playoffs. That would be epic.

It’s gonna be tough for the Bucs to win more games than the Panthers because the Bucs have literally no strengths (except maybe rookie Mike Williams).

All and all I like your opinions.

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

tampa bay one was more of an insane prediction

but i could see a lot of problems in carolina if john fox gets canned or they bench moore for clausen or go back and forth. i can see a lot of things going wrong for carolina and tampa is going into the season with little to no expectations

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by BadCo'09 on Sep 5, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm really just going to throw a really big prediction out there..

The Eagles will end the year with 3 rookies starting on defense, Lindley, Allen and Graham, also Coleman will get some substantial time throughout the year..

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb

"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.

by wild_eagle on Sep 5, 2010 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

do you think

Lindley replaces Hobbs b/c of injury or outplaying him?

"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)

by jalarsen1 on Sep 5, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both... I think hobbs misses a game or two for something minor that we

just want to rest so he doesnt make it worse, then Lindley goes in and makes some good plays possibly shuts down a pretty good 2nd reciever and from then on he slowly takes over..

I think Hobbs is very good, I actually respect him alot as a player, he’s one that gives it his all every play, he’s fiery and is as physical as he can be… but he’s not the long term answer to be honest..

And to be honest, I know by week 5 or 6 that Lindley will end up being our Nickel CB.. Dude shut down Percy Harvin, Julio Jones, and just about every big name SEC WR during his time at Kentucky, if any CB here has cover ability that’ll match that of what we had with Sheldon it’s going to be him…

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb

"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.

by wild_eagle on Sep 5, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was thinking same thing about Lindley

Plus according to CNCITINFO he should even win defensive rookie of the year because he did so in my madden franchise

by BluLion on Sep 7, 2010 3:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah the kid may be gold...

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb

"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.

by wild_eagle on Sep 7, 2010 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

-Favre will throw 20+ picks.

-Vikings will miss playoffs.

-Raiders will make the playoffs

-Patriots wins less than 10 games.

-Bears will have the worst record in the NFL.

-Super Bowl prediction: Chiefs Vs Lions. (You said insane, not whether or not we actually believe in them, lol)

RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.

by Imp on Sep 5, 2010 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

There you go...

The Chiefs actually have an interesting offense. They could have a resurgent Bowe, Jamaal Charles is a beast in the making, and that rookie McCluster is very dynamic. Cassel just needs some protection and look out…for 7 wins.

Favre throwing 20+ picks would be tremendous.

The Bears might be neck and neck with the Broncos.

We’re on the same page with the Raiders.

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Chiefs actually have an interesting offense. They could have a resurgent Bowe, Jamaal Charles is a beast in the making, and that rookie McCluster is very dynamic. Cassel just needs some protection and look out…for 7 wins.

The last part is my problems with the Chiefs. I’m not a believer in their offensive line or Matt Cassel. Dude still needs to prove he can play without Moss or Welker. Pretty much why I don’t think they’re doing anything this year, besides losing.

RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.

by Imp on Sep 5, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll try a few

The Seahawks will go 2-14 and draft Jake Locker.
The Bears will get swept by the Lions.
Matt Leinart will be signed by the Steelers.
The 49ers will sweep their division.
Stewart Bradley will tackle Marion Barber for a loss 3 times in one game.
Josh McDaniels and Brad Childress will both lose their jobs for getting into a fight with one of their players during a game. The player Childress gets in a fight with will FINALLY retire.
The Patriots will go 8-8.
Houshmanzadeh will sign with Houston.

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by Rabbit T on Sep 5, 2010 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed
Agreed
Can’t see Mr. Hollywood in Steel City, maybe the Jets
Agreed
Make it five
Totally disagree
Meh. Maybe.
Intriguing…

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by DeSean10 on Sep 5, 2010 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Seahawks are a trainwreck.

No offense, I said that one in my OP. Great minds think alike.

For some reason, I think he goes to the Giants.

No doubt. If the Niners had a QB, they’d challenge for the SB.

I like that one! Barber will lose a fumble in the process…

LOL! I could see that one happen…for real.

The Pats’ defense is even worse than they were last year.

Houston is pretty set at WR. But they don’t have a pure possession WR. Like DeSean said, intriguing.

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

My crazy picks

-Washington will finish 9-7, they will sign Houshmanzadeh
-Lions will win 7 games
-49ers will win 10-12 games
-Jets will not make the playoffs
-Bengals will win the AFCN again(not really a crazy pick but w/e

by Phillyrampage on Sep 5, 2010 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

The Jets are all hype. I agree.

The Lions prediction is spot on, IMO.

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Few More

-The Vikings will sign Houshmanzadeh
-Jahvid Best runs his ass off and the Lions go 9-7
-Arian Foster runs his ass off and the Texans make the playoffs
-Eagles defense is the shit. 11-5
-49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, New Orleans and Cowboys make the playoffs
-Patriots, Colts, Texans, Chargers, Bengals and Ravens make the playoffs

by Midnight Green Bean on Sep 5, 2010 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m guessing you drafted Best and Foster on your fantasy teams. Not bad choices…

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by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

houshmanzadeh.....

is going to re sign in cincinatti. heard it here first.

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by snowhill82 on Sep 6, 2010 5:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

dont see it

believe someone from the bengals came out and shot this rumor down.

by Easedel on Sep 6, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Houshmandzadeh will be a Skin…

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by JayDuce on Sep 6, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

He signed with the Ravens. Well, as least both team start with a “r”!

RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.

by Imp on Sep 6, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

…and they’re about 30 miles apart. Good signing by the Ravens, but their secondary is in shambles.

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by JayDuce on Sep 6, 2010 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here’s some of my predictions for our team and a couple other teams around the league

Once again, I’m a fan and not a sports analyst. In my opinion, I think we will be able to gauge how the rest of our year goes at or around our bye week. It’ll give us time to evaluate our rookies and our new additions (new starters and our newly acquired FA’s) without jumping the gun. I hate it when people post predictions of how our season will turn out after week one. Our team needs to gel and by the bye week, it will give us a more realistic idea of our team.
Eagles: Kolb will do better than most people think because of his accuracy and Andy’s west coast offense passing scheme that mainly consists of short yard throws. I think that he still needs to work on long passes. Shady might have some trouble until our line shapes up and Jackson is back to his pre injury form. The WR’s/TE are a lock and I don’t see issue. The O-line itself is still a concern for me. It could go either way. I think that the D-line and our LB corps will be our bread and butter and our saving grace in some close games. The secondary is still shaky but Nate Allen might be our BDawk replacement once and for all. Look for Akers to be making a lot of FGs this season guys.

Giants: Eli will struggle and Brandon Jacobs will finally meet his match with our new and improved front four/LB’s. I hope that we have his number.

Redskins: It’s sad to think of McNabb struggling but at least he’s struggling on a different team. No WRs, Cooley might see some better stats but their O-line will crumble and Don might be on his back more than they would like. Their D is good though and might be trouble for us this season.

Cowboys: I do not know why yahoo sports and everyone else rates these guys so highly every year. They’ve been to 1 playoff game in how many years? 12 or so. I don’t know but their O-line is old and battered, their WRs will have some personality/cohesion issues. Witten is always a lock unfortunately but since I despise the Cowboys so much I still will always point out the negatives before the positives. And last but not least; Rhomo finally comes out and admits that he’s gayer than a bedazzled handbag full of unicorns and rainbows.

Steelers: Roth will come back out of shape and INT happy. This will be a huge hit to the team and will make them 8-8 team this year.

Jets: Just like our author of this post said; Hard knocks really will be the theme of this team. Being a Super bowl contender is more hype than reality for the Jets. They still have a 2nd year QB with knee problems, no Thomas Jones and Revis Island is possibly sunk for the season. Their D is still pretty good but I think their egos will affect their season and they’ll make the Wild card but that’s about it

As for the obvious: top teams will be the Colts, Saints, Vikes, Ravens, Pack, Pats.
I think that the Pack wins the SB against the Colts and immediately after, Manning walks off the field again pouting without shaking the winning QB’s hand.

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by larsonprojects on Sep 5, 2010 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

First, thank you for serving our country

Gentleman like yourself who served in the military are the real heroes of our country.

It’s hard to argue with your points. I’m afraid to pick the Packers (even though I will) because off their coach. But it’s hard to go against them.

Again, God bless you for your sacrifice for our nation.

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

We've BEEN to quite a few Play off games in the last 12 years, including 3 in the last 4, I believe

We’ve won only one, however.

Oh, and agree + lol at the Roy Williams/Dez fight thing in the main post…that would be epic.

God Bless Texas

by dwarfknight64 on Sep 5, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

alright here we go

-Raiders win their division.
-Matt Leinart goes to the Vikings to take over next year.
-Lesean Mccoy becomes 2nd stringer midway through season. Mike Bell makes a surge and becomes starter.
-Ravens win superbowl.
-Favre and Vikings completely tank.
-T.O and Chad OchoCinco never get it going.
-Dolphins win their division.

by IwantVick on Sep 5, 2010 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Lesean Mccoy becomes 2nd stringer midway through season. Mike Bell makes a surge and becomes starter.

For some reason I give this prediciton a little less weight coming from a guy named “IwantVick”.

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by DeSean10 on Sep 5, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

say what you want

but vick is like michael jackson. once he’s gone, people will wish they ridiculed him less and watched him play more.

by IwantVick on Sep 5, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like Vick, actually. But he’s better suited for a bad team than he is for us, at least as a starter.

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by DeSean10 on Sep 5, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

+22

Brilliant!

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by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh

I won’t miss Vick.

He’s electric. I’m excited when he’s on the field, but I still only want it to last a play or two, because I’m as scared as I am excited.

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by jalarsen1 on Sep 6, 2010 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

tbh

i dont think it matters who is in the backfield. for some reason i see andy calling up a bunch of 40+ pass attempt games

by Easedel on Sep 5, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re nuts. Andy will run it 60 times a game, every game. Passing offense be damned.

RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.

by Imp on Sep 5, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

We are talking about Andy Reid here, right?

I hope you’re joking. If you are, well-played, sir.

R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)

by Carolina Iggle on Sep 5, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he'll run more than he has in the past...

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb

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by wild_eagle on Sep 5, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not about "quantity", it's QUALITY...

Teams can win in the NFL throwing 35-40 times a game. The key is to mix your calls properly, and become unpredictable.

I’m afraid our beloved Eagles just aren’t unpredictable enough. Again, maybe they’ll make the adjustment, but I won’t believe it until I see it.

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by JayDuce on Sep 5, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he didn't run more last year

with Peters, and Weaver as new toys…I don’t think he will this year. If anything I see him as expecting Kolb to complete more passes and therefore making passing even more worth while

"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)

by jalarsen1 on Sep 6, 2010 7:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kolb has 85 pass attempts in 2 games started.

by Easedel on Sep 6, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

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by JayDuce on Sep 6, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

My one and only prediction:

Vick becomes starting (2nd string more likely) RB by end of the season.

by KornontheKobb on Sep 6, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why in the world do people like Mike Bell? He’s filling the roll we had Dorsey Levens here for in 2004. We need that kind of guy on the team. A guy who can convert a 3rd and 1. But lets not confuse him with a starting back. Can’t people who have been calling for a big back to pound the football with just be happy we got someone for such situations without trying to make the guy something special?

by AZ Eagle on Sep 6, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bell led the Saints in rushing last year. He’s not “special” but I think he’ll be important to the team.

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by JayDuce on Sep 6, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

The above statement is 100% false

How can you say Mike Bell led the Saints in rushing last year?? In no way/shape/form could Mike Bell be thought of as the leading rusher on the Saints. As a matter of fact he was a large step down from 2 other RBs who are hardly thought of as world beaters (while being propped up by the #1 passing attack in the league).

- Pierre Thomas 793 yards vs Mike Bell 654 yards — Lets not also forget how alot of his stats were skewed by a 45-27 stomping against the Lions where he put up 143 yards ( 20% of his total season output).

- Reggie Bush 5.6 ypc – Pierre Thomas 5.4 ypc – Mike Bell 3.8 ypc

- 3 game playoff run… 8 attempts, 15 yards

- 07+08 combined 19 attempts, 45 yards

by 20dawk20 on Sep 6, 2010 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bell had 172 attempts and 5 TDs, Thomas had 147 attempts, 6 TDs, Bush had 70 attempts and 5 TDs. So While I’d agree that Bell wasn’t their top runner, he was in some categories, killing your theory that he was “In no way/shape/form” the leading rusher.

Also, I don’t see what 07-08 have to do with anything, since Bell was injured/not starting. What happens when we base Kolb’s stats off of 07-08? QB RTG 21.8, 17-34 (50%), 0 TDs, 4 INTs.

If you’re gonna bash someone’s post as “100% false” then yours should be 100% accurate and unbiased.

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by DeSean10 on Sep 6, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

+75

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by JayDuce on Sep 6, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

You measure the quality of a back in rushing attempts? That’s gotta be the worst way I can think of to rate the quality of a back. Hell, I’d rather rate them by their combine wonderlick score than by their numbers of attempts! What would mean more to you? The number of times a player took the wonderlick test? or What score he got on it? How about the number of times a player ran a 40 yard dash, or the time he ran it in?

Does McDonald’s make the best hamburger in the world because it makes the most hamburgers?

The only thing that could add any validity to this system of measurement is if we’re assuming the coach had him run more often than anyone else because he thought he was their best runner (possible, but not likely in this case) AND that the coach is infallible.

by AZ Eagle on Sep 6, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice rant, but could you please read next time?

So While I’d agree that Bell wasn’t their top runner, he was in some categories, killing your theory that he was "In no way/shape/form" the leading rusher.

I stated, quite clearly in fact, that I don’t think Bell was their leading rusher. I just stated that he blew his credibility by being so selective while using a blanket statement.

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by DeSean10 on Sep 6, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

May I also note that I wrote a Fanpost a while back based entirely upon the fact that I believe that YPC/YPT is the most important statistic for running backs, making a case for why Brian Westbrook is arguably one of the best RBs in NFL history.

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by DeSean10 on Sep 6, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Be careful...

…or else AZ Eagle will start calling you names for disagreeing with him.

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by JayDuce on Sep 6, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was in some categories

in what categories?? Rushing attempts?? Where does the plural of “categories” come from??

Unless I am missing something, I repeat my previous statement… In no way/shape/form could Mike Bell be thought of as the leading rusher on the Saints.

by 20dawk20 on Sep 7, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here’s your problem: Bell led his team in rushing attempts last year. So he was the leading player in a rushing category. Yet you say he was “in no way” a leading rusher. Its a direct contradiction. How can he be leading in a rushing category but in “no way” a leading rusher? He “led the team in rushing” attempts, right? Isn’t that how you would phrase it? Then he was the leading rusher in that regard.

But thats okay, ignore all logic.

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by DeSean10 on Sep 7, 2010 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

but thats okay, ignore all common sense

by 20dawk20 on Sep 7, 2010 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

What common sense? Again, did you read my comment? I wouldn’t call Bell the leading rusher, but he lead his team in rushing attempts, which in one regard, makes him the top rusher. So somebody could make that argument. You’re not using common sense.

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by DeSean10 on Sep 7, 2010 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you’re gonna bash someone’s post as "100% false" then yours should be 100% accurate and unbiased.

With a little bit of common sense it is.

by 20dawk20 on Sep 7, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, its not… How is it unbiased? Your choosing one stat over another.

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by DeSean10 on Sep 7, 2010 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

cobb’d: you’re

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JIBTA’s actually Jack Ikegwuonu... and he’s f***ing pissed.
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by DeSean10 on Sep 7, 2010 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

(You’re) choosing one stat over another.

exactly, I am choosing the stats that would be associated with the term “leading rusher” (yards, tds, ypc) and then ignoring the nonsensical claim that rush attempts could be somehow included in that definition.

by 20dawk20 on Sep 7, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats not nonsensical

Why would the coaches give someone that many carries?

There has to be a reason they gave him so many. It means when the coaches were calling run plays they thought of Bell more times. Right there is should show you that he could be considered the leading rusher stop being an ass

UDDDDAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!

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E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!!!!!!

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by Udalango on Sep 7, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

that should say it not is

UDDDDAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by Udalango on Sep 7, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would the coaches give someone that many carries?

Because they dont want to get any of the real, talented RBs injured in non-competitive games. Six of the nine games he got double digit carries were rush stat compiling blowouts.

It means when the coaches were calling run plays they thought of Bell more times.

I know playoff games dont count towards official stats but I just wanted to counter that statement with his playoff stats… in the 3 games that meant the most coaches thought of him 8 times and he returned the favor with 15 yards.

by 20dawk20 on Sep 7, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im not arguing that he was the top rusher im saying

that you are wrong by saying that there is NO way for him to be thought of like that. Just because you dont agree doesnt mean that it is 100% false

UDDDDAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!

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E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!!!!!!

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by Udalango on Sep 7, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. Exactly what I’ve been saying, thank you Uda. At least someone listens. Its ignorant to say its 100% false when it most certainly isn’t. In that one category (carries) Bell is the leading rusher. Wouldn’t you agree, 20dawk20?

I Am Better Than Jack Who Some Fool Thinks Is Better Than Asante (IABTJWSFTIBTA)
JIBTA’s actually Jack Ikegwuonu... and he’s f***ing pissed.
36-5-20-JJ Bleeding Green Forever

by DeSean10 on Sep 7, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

we disagree on the definition of leading rusher… it sucks.

by 20dawk20 on Sep 7, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

no it's not bud,

you are wrong 20dawk20… Just admit the mistake, make your point again without the mistake and shut up about it.

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb

"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.

by wild_eagle on Sep 7, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

rushing attempts

I meant to say he led the Saints in “rushing attempts”.

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 6, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have weaver for that.. Bells kinda the in between of mcCoy and weaver

thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro

"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb

"Please notice the difference and proceed to suck your own tiny ass cock. Secondly, A simulator shows how things COULD go, not WOULD.. Once again bend in half and do the deed.." From me.. To CNCITINFO.

by wild_eagle on Sep 7, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It won

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US Army

by larsonprojects on Sep 6, 2010 12:54 AM EDT reply actions  

it wont be that significant

I think that we will have to rely on the run a little more but i wont go to a run first offense. Andy’s all about the pass.

SGT Dave "larsonprojects" Evans
4th Infantry Division
US Army

by larsonprojects on Sep 6, 2010 12:55 AM EDT reply actions  

What is with the Raiders picks?

I don’t watch them, I don’t like them (1980 anyone?) but what I do know is that the team has been pretty poorly run for a long time. They have 2 individual talents on defense in Seymore and Asim, Asom, Ah someone pretty damn good. But still, does that make a defense? And one solid draft in the last 3 years, does that make a good foundation?

I get that they erased a mistake in Russell, but Campbell isn’t going to save the franchise even with a good defense (go ask the skins). They are on thier way back, but I think the Chiefs are further along in the rebuilding process. I also think there’s no way that the Raiders hold a candle to the Chargers. So why the love, if you care to explain.

It turns out I overestimated my apathy, but not enough to matter.

by einman77 on Sep 6, 2010 2:54 AM EDT reply actions  

The Raiders defense

that beat us down last year?

Take the name off the back of the jersey's and reinvent football as a team sport.

"The way I figure it, if my heads gonna pop off it's gonna pop off anyways" - Ellis Hobbs on the possibility of his neck breaking.

by MightyJoeBanner on Sep 6, 2010 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Raiders

You are completely underselling Seymour and Asomgha. One is a dominant guy on the d-line, and the other is a shutdown corner. Asomgha is every bit as good as Revis. Now their defense is still shaky against the run, but since they are still in good shape.

Their offense is going to be run first. The injury to Michael Bush hurts them; he might miss a month. But I think McFadden wakes up. Also, Campbell won’t have to do much. He has Louis Murphy and Zack Miller. When Chaz Schilens heals up from his knee injury, that’s another weapon.

The Chiefs and the Chargers’ defenses aren’t as good as the Raiders. I like Philip Rivers is an excellent talent, but losing McNeil and Vincent Jackson will hurt them. And the Chiefs have some interesting pieces, but I don’t think they’ll catch the Raiders.

That division is a mess. Why not the Raiders?

Win and win some more...

by JayDuce on Sep 6, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

My glass is half empty predictions

- At some point lesean mccoy misses 1-2 games and Kevin Kolb pays for it. With ZERO running game for the opposing defense to think about the pin back their ears and Kolb is on his back all day. Very bad day, hurting his development bad. To make things worse this almost certainly will come in a game we should win.

- Mike bell has more of an 07 + 08 year than a 06 + 09 year. He is not asked to return. The names Julius Jones and Justin Fargas are mentioned often.

- The disappointment of Nate Allen. Plays solid but unspectacular for most of the year. Bigger problem is the extra attention he has to pay to CB2 side of the field adding on to his list of responsibilities.

- Asante Samuel has, numberwise, his worse year as an eagle. Plays well for 16 weeks locking down his side of the field but only comes up with 3 interceptions. Teams gameplan to attack the opposing side of the field thinking why test Asante if we dont have to.

- The defensive bright spot of the year will be LB play. Sims is just an animal, Stew comes back from injury without missing a beat but the real surprise is Akeem Jordan who puts together a probowl type year

- Brandon Graham is sacking QBs, ripping telephone books in half, and saving babies from burning buildings… no one notices. Everyone else is to busy talking about Earl Thomas grabbing another pass and running the other way for 6.

- Thank god for Riley Cooper… at least one of the innumerable rookies we picked after 37 gets some playing time.

- OLine has some growing pains working JJ and Wells into the rotation but by the end of the season they are widely regarded as the best OL in the division. We still dont have a RB good enough to capitalize on that though.

VOID!!!

by dt3 on Sep 6, 2010 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

My insane Predictions for 2010

CNCITINFO will have a fan post that uses proper grammer.
Astley Pessoa III will find the enter button and have 2 paragraphs in a fan post
My wife will be indited for tax fraud
oh and…..
Kold will throw for 3500 yards and 20 TD’s, too scared to make predictions on picks though

by SGTSteve on Sep 6, 2010 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

The Eagles will not lose more than two games in a row.

Packers – W
@ Lions – W
@ Jaguars – W
Redskins – W
@ 49ers – W
Falcons – L
Titans – L
BYE
Colts – W
@ Redskins – L
Giants – W
@ Bears – W
Texans – L
@ Cowboys – L
@ Giants – W
Vikings – L
Cowboys – W

by HexadecimalCrsh on Sep 7, 2010 9:00 AM EDT reply actions  

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