Eagles Give Up Essentially Nothing For Cardinals' Reggie Wells
by JasonB on Sep 3, 2010 3:27 PM EDT
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PrintAs BobQ posted earlier, the Eagles traded a sixth round pick to the Arizona Cardinals for offensive guard Reggie Wells. In pretty much the same release they announced that RB J.J. Arrington, who was acquired from the Broncos in exchange for LB Joe Mays, had been released.
As you may remember, one of the conditions of the Arrington trade was that if he did not make the Eagles 53 man roster, the Broncos would send a 2012 sixth round pick to Philadelphia.
So, the Eagles finished this piece of business with potentially a new starting OG and the same amount of draft picks they started the day with. If you trace the moves back to the start, the only thing they gave up was Joe Mays. Seems like a no brainer kind of deal.
Andy Reid had this to say about the acquisition of Wells,
"We're adding a player that has started several seasons in the National Football League and has played at a very high level during the course of his career," said head coach Andy Reid following the acquisition of Wells. "He has experience at several different positions along the offensive line and he will be a welcome addition to that group. You can never have enough depth at that position as you go through an NFL season."
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Well, he’s started for 7 straight years in the NFL on some good teams. Plus, he;s got to be used to pass blocking having played in the Cards offense.
He’s not a pro bowl guy or anything, but all reports he’s a solid and durable NFL starter.
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+1 for the pass blocking remark
KOLB is a natural born leader - something the Eagles haven't had on offense in a long long time. Prediction, we win a SB in the next 3 years.
This years Madden has him rated as an 80, same rating as Stacy. He would have been the second highest rated OL on the cardinals behind Faneca (91).
VOID!!!
by dt3 on Sep 3, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Lutui IS better fundamentally
Faneca’s pass blocking leaves much to be desired…
Oh no, don't tell me Matt Barkley ALSO doesn't tie his shoes...
September 1st, 2010. A day that shall live in infamy.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 3, 2010 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn’t it seem like ever since Roseman became GM, Eagles have been making more smart, high value acquisitions(including the draft)?
People HATE giving credit
to front-office geeks.
But yes, it does.
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front-office geeks deserve more credit.
by andyreidswaistline on Sep 3, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently
Andrews is on the trading block, as he and his manager want him back at RT.
Mays for potential OL starter ...Good trade!
Cudos to Roseman once again…
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+1
to roseman
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It didn’t seem to specify, which would imply that it’s 2011.
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Whatever the case. A sixth round pick is essentially nothing.
by cavortingEagle on Sep 3, 2010 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
The text I received from the Eagles said 2011.
by JimmyK on Sep 3, 2010 3:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Mine too
Maybe it was, like, the same text!
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Gotta love that, by the way. Whenever I get a text from them, I get a little nervous excitement, like… Oh boy, what’d we do?
by JimmyK on Sep 3, 2010 3:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah, sometimes they're like
“The Eagles placed Ricky Sapp on IR” and they’re kind of a letdown. But I usually feel compelled to drop what I’m doing and sign on to BGN to discuss.
I was definitely excited about this one, the Reggie Wells deal.
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Thanks for asking
the question that several of us want to know.
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But I assume this is the service from the Eagles website? If so, does it charge you anything, or just the standard fees you get from your own mobile plan?
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by goodfella46er on Sep 3, 2010 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
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My happiness at acquiring a decent starter for a 6th-rounder is a little tempered by the fact we may end up getting the same (or less) in exchange for Stacy (should we trade him).
I put a dollar in a change machine. Nothing changed.
Exactly
Hope for someone new to do better than someone who weve already seen struggle many times
KOLB is a natural born leader - something the Eagles haven't had on offense in a long long time. Prediction, we win a SB in the next 3 years.
bingo
maybe we give someone the same 6th rounder to take Andrews (fail #2) off our hands
Probably less considering that the team getting him will have to take on a hefty salary.
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hahaha
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
dont be so quick to laugh! Maybe???
I could only wish. But look at the facts in front of us… and im not saying p[layer for player, but it may be something that Roseman can work out. The jets lost a guard this year and they did pick up a starting Corner and Drafted another in the first round. Maybe package something together for Revis and we will be set.
Plus
Rex has done some other crazy stuff I.E trading his entire draft as a first year coach for boy wonder.
I appreciated the enthusiasm . I wasnt laughing at him!
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I just tried this trade on Madden ...
…and the game just told me to go fuck myself…lol
KOLB is a natural born leader - something the Eagles haven't had on offense in a long long time. Prediction, we win a SB in the next 3 years.
by BWestFactor on Sep 3, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Drinking early today?
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Friday afternoon isnt early ;-)
KOLB is a natural born leader - something the Eagles haven't had on offense in a long long time. Prediction, we win a SB in the next 3 years.
I wouldn’t mind if the Eagles just kept Andrews for depth.
By the way, are we sure Wells starts, or is HE our depth at G? Has anyone seen any quotes from the Eagles in that regard?
by JimmyK on Sep 3, 2010 3:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
It's a little quick to jettison Andrews ...
… I agree, I was thinking the same thing.
He might be a disappointment, but can we expect Wells to step in and start Week 1?
This kind of reminds me of the Stallworth deal late in the preseason a few years ago, and what it says to me is that the Eagles noticed everything we noticed about the interior OL, and acknowledged it was going to be a problem if they didn’t do something.
Possible fallout includes:
Nick Cole stays at center for the duration now that we have add’l G depth
Andrews loses starting job
MJG … no idea.
What am missing?
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My bet is the Eagles try to move Andrews to save the money on his $1M salary and go with a cheaper rookie instead. They will have a tough time I bet though get takers on him even for a 6th round pick.
I would imagine Wells is going to be the starter in Week 1. Andrews has played that poorly in camp and Cole seems to be a question mark yet form a health perspective.
Interesting
10 days til kickoff, I guess a savvy vet could get up to speed on “passblock, passblock, chip the DT/get the linebacker, passblock” by then.
The NBA is the one where I never understand how starters can step right into new offensive systems, but the NFL isn’t far behind. Seems it would take a few reps to get up to speed
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even with the addition of Wells, offensive line is still the biggest ? on the team. Our corners are alright.
but the QB
won’t be given a chance if the o-line doesn’t block
Cant say i agree with that statement
The pass rush on defense will help out the corners alot this season. Plus I think they are a pretty good group to begin with. But if the OL can’t block for Kolb…..Djax wont even be a star….
KOLB is a natural born leader - something the Eagles haven't had on offense in a long long time. Prediction, we win a SB in the next 3 years.
sorry I read that wrong...
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by jayfire137 on Sep 3, 2010 3:54 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
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UDDDDAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
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E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!!!!!!
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nice…
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by jayfire137 on Sep 3, 2010 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think this has to be the first time we have ever completed this
by Desean Da Man on Sep 3, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Well he bookended it at least, its not like he got the “M” and the “I” or something.
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+1
very nice, fellas!
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by goodfella46er on Sep 3, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
It's ok
He started it…he can end it
by FlyEagles15 on Sep 3, 2010 10:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Championshi- BLOCKED
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by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 3, 2010 7:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Cowboys traded Crayton to SD for a 7...
Dumb. Good riddance, Crayton
by JimmyK on Sep 3, 2010 4:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I always liked that guy
In that I thought he was effective for them. As you said, good riddance.
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They're Cardinals fans
Wait til it gets dark and the golf courses in Scottsdale empty.
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Hahaha +1
Just to give you an idea of the type of fans they have there, I was at the 2009 NFC game and after the heartbreak, fans were feeling sorry for us Eagles fans, and in disbelief that they actually won…..no laughing in our face, no taunting, no nothing, …..they felt sorry…. "One fan actually told me, sorry you lost, we never thought we would win, honestly! "
KOLB is a natural born leader - something the Eagles haven't had on offense in a long long time. Prediction, we win a SB in the next 3 years.
I had a completely different experience
First cardinal fans tried to block all eagle fans from getting in the door, which was met by our small group of 12 pushing them aside..
I was constantly taunted from all angles for most of the 1st half until i realized the guy behind me that was yelling in my ear wasn’t even wearing the color red, it was a pink/salmon colored polo..when i called him out everyone around me and my friend started laughing at him and left us alone (not saying I didn’t deserve the heckling at all, since I was being loud, but this guy was yelling directly in our ears on purpose)
Then after the game tons of people were talking shit as we were walking..I just asked them how long they had been fans or owned that jersey or those pair of red gloves, a few weeks? Nobody responded to those comments, mostly just put their head down because they knew they were shitty fans.
by KornontheKobb on Sep 3, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Hahaha wow!
Its funny how you can have a totally different experience like that…..oh well…sorry man….it must of sucked on top of the heartbreak….
KOLB is a natural born leader - something the Eagles haven't had on offense in a long long time. Prediction, we win a SB in the next 3 years.
Man that experienced sucked so much...
……so much hearbreak, was so pissed…..
KOLB is a natural born leader - something the Eagles haven't had on offense in a long long time. Prediction, we win a SB in the next 3 years.
Yea it really did suck but..
It was a great overall experience, my first eagles playoff game and all and my first game with my brother
by KornontheKobb on Sep 3, 2010 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Especially after knocking the giants out
I thought we were going all the way. I’m pretty sure I cried for 2 days straight
by FlyEagles15 on Sep 3, 2010 10:56 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I was at that game too
and I got shit from a few people, but not many. Actually in my eagles jersey I think I managed to pick up like three different girls in Cardinals jersey’s. Phone numbers, not actually bringing them home that night. But two of the three paid off, and that ain’t bad. After the game they’d kind of taunt me as I’d walk by with my friend, which was an easy to just start talking to them
Moral of the story is both that Cardinals fans just aren’t that passionate, AND, it’s a good place to pick up women.
Hahaha
Yeh Scottsdale def. has tons of hot chicks…..
KOLB is a natural born leader - something the Eagles haven't had on offense in a long long time. Prediction, we win a SB in the next 3 years.
Well, it’s in Glendale, but, whatever, the Phoenix area in general has no shortage of good looking women.
Sorry I was staying in Scottsdale....but yes!
KOLB is a natural born leader - something the Eagles haven't had on offense in a long long time. Prediction, we win a SB in the next 3 years.
Step in the right direction
Hard to not be happy about upgrading a position (RG) that desperately needed an upgrade especially with a low price tag.
This move though does make me wonder just what the Eagles think of Cole. My bet is that they see him strictly as a backup and do have some serious reservations about his health.
I also wouldn’t mind the Eagles keeping S. Andrews either. His salary this year is just $1M (most of it was that bonus money they already paid him). This is a team that has essentially no depth whatsoever at the T position. Yeah I guess Herremans can slide out to LT but would that really work for more than just a game or so? Tend to doubt it.
If they do trade Andrews, there isn’t really a viable alternative if Justice goes down or really struggles. I would view Andrews as a sunk cost and keep this season but the Eagles will show their thriftiness and try to save $1M by going with a cheap rookie.
I agree completely
I always saw Stacy as a mediocre guard that could play emergency RT.
I would rather have Stacy out at RT if Justice goes down than any other alternative (like Dunlap…cough…cough)
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Overhyped on here as usual
After looking at some the scouting reports and ratings on Wells, this guy is looks like a run-of-the mill veteran RG who is an adequate pass blocker and probably slightly below-average run blocker.
better then what we had
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"run-of-the mill veteran RG"
So like, Artis Hicks?
Explain to me which one of MJG, Cole and Andrews that run-of-the-mill veteran is not an upgrade from at this point?
I like your previous post, FWIW.
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Artis Hicks was a fairly decent starter here. Never saw this guy play much at all.
Having more options especially at OL is almost always a good thing. Just wonder if this guy will be that much of an upgrade.
Definitely meant Hicks
as a positive.
Agree on the more the better at OL, especially given how our best backup Ts are our starting Gs.
Both Cole and MJG have always played even though they’ve never started a season as starters. I remember Scott Young in the playoff game vs. the Saints.
I hear what you’re saying though, Wells might not be a whole lot to write home about. The Cardinals gave him up for a 6th, so I guess they didn’t even value him as depth.
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Player Laundering...
Seems like our FO is figuring out how to work the system, this move of players to net us something for next to nothing… and the player union is looking into how the FO is saving from putting money into the rookie salary pool by switching players with Arizona too…
…. for those that don’t want to read that link: Normally when a team cuts a rookie, they pay 85% of that salary into a pool that is divided up and paid back later depending on how many downs that rookie played. By PHI & ARI trading our picks (200 & 201 – Scott/Calvin trade), both teams get to cut the other teams player with no cash penalty.
Yeah, but they also get different players. Teams make these kind of little trades all the time. Honestly, it seems much more far fetched to believe that the Eagles were looking to save a measley 200K rather than looking to try out some different players.
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Kind of off topic
but did u guys know Roseman grew up a Jets & Mets fan, i found that out last night @ the game.
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I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
just went down a notch in my book
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then again, kolb was a cowboys fan
so maybe we can give him a pass too
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good
maybe he’ll put on a show in dallas this year
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RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 3, 2010 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
And perhaps if he's great
a threepeat if we get them in the playoffs? I would cry tears of joy if we went 3-0 against them this year.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 3, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I think you’d be hard pressed to find one guy on the Eagles that grew up an Eagles fan.
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I give him credit for being a Mets fan, my uncle is too and it takes a lot to root for such a perrennially average team. Imagine if the Eagles went 6-10 t0 9-7 every year and never made the playoffs? shudder
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Eh...
living in NY, I have a lot of respect for Jets/Mets fans…
These are the blue collar guys that remind me a lot of Philly. I’ve always felt like Jets fans and Eagles fans share a similar passion in different conferences.
MUCH better than the yuppie, half-assed, golf clapping Yankee/Giants fans
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I heard on the radio here
that Marion Barber will prob be traded tomorrow. not via Tim Cowlishaw.
Too little too late?
All off-season I kept thinking “when are the Eagles going to address their line?” “How could they not address the interior line with the way the season ended?”
Then free agency came and went. The draft came and went, and nothing changed on the o-line. Now, I’m afraid it might be too little too late. Our high powered offense derailed because the front office still believed in an Andrews. We’ll find out in a week.
continuing on. . .
I wanted the o-line addressed even more than I wanted the defense revamped because the offense had just about all the pieces in place to be magnificent. Instead, I feel like the Eagles have a sweet convertible that’s not going to go anywhere because they didn’t fix the flat tire. Now they’re attempting a hasty patch job which doesn’t inspire much confidence.
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