Breaking: Andy Reid Names Michael Vick As Eagles Starter
by JasonB on Sep 21, 2010 5:52 PM EDT
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This is breaking news... Andy Reid has announced that Michael Vick is the Eagles starting quarterback. The Eagles will be holding a full press conference in about a half hour, so it appears that this isn't due to an injury to Kevin Kolb.
It looks like Michael Vick is the starting quarterback of the Philadelphia Eagles for the rest of the year.
More details to come.
[Update by JasonB, 09/21/10 6:24 PM EDT ] Andy Reid will be holding a conference call at 6:30. I'll update this story as he speaks.
Has nothing to do with Kevin Kolb or his injury, his future is "not slighted one bit." Still says he can be a franchise quarterback.
Says it's all about Vick's "accelerated play." Calls Vick "the hottest quarterback in the NFL." Says Vick deserves to play, Kolb will be allowed to continue his maturation process.
Says it's his responsibility to continue evaluating and Vick's accelerated play prompted the decision to make a change.
Was asked whether one half of play was enough to evaluate Kolb. Andy says it wasn't about judging Kolb, he'll still be a Superbowl level QB. However, when you have a guy playing at the level that Vick is you have to let him play.
Reid says that this will help Kevin Kolb's maturation process and he will get to continue to learn.
Reid says he didn't expect the accelerated play of Vick when he made the decision to go with Kolb in preseason.
Says he's been meeting with Kolb over the past two days and that he wants to be the starter, but has accepted the decision. He says Kolb is unfortunately stuck behind an "Ex superstar that has now regained his abilities."
Reid says the team has seen the great play from Vick over the past two weeks and that has factored into the decision.
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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KOLB is a natural born leader - something the Eagles haven't had on offense in a long long time. Prediction, we win a SB in the next 3 years.
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one of the stupidest things i have ever seen. and I like Kevin Kolb.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Hahahaha
Thank you for pointing that out man…made me chuckle.
Get in my way and I will either run you over or EAT you!
more than leinert got.. a lot of similarities there in lack of ability to make multiple reads on open receivers, dumping it off to short passes too much, almost killed DJax in preseason, etc.
Leinart threw four times as many passes in his career than Kolb. There’s really no comparison between the two of them.
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by Scott Kessler on Sep 21, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
And that was way to long to figure out that Leinert wasnt going to cut it. How much is enough to determine what is best for teh team? Shouldnt we let the coach determine that?
Anyone who lives within their means suffers from a lack of imagination.-Oscar Wilde
I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.
You have to imagine Kolb is still the man long term
But he’s gotta be HEATED.
Wait 3 years, get a half, wait some more. Oooh boy.
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by D3Keith on Sep 21, 2010 6:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Why do you have to imagine that?
I am fucking pissed. Andy Reid is a goddamn coward and an idiot.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
STOP CRYING
Sit back and try to enjoy the ride (lmao) }:-)
Wait until your hero throws 5 picks this week.
And kills 5 dogs.
And shoots 5 friends.
And gives herpes to 5 girls.
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evilbanner
has no soul , did you expect more ?
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by NorthPhillyKid on Sep 21, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm waiting for him to...
help deliver 5 puppies;
save 5 people from a burning house;
and cure AIDS.
Get in my way and I will either run you over or EAT you!
how ignorant can you be? stfu already. your shit is offensive and your personal attacks have no ground. let the man play football. stop caring so much about his personal life. your not his fucking father.
by packimop on Sep 21, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If Kolb slays Vick...
…I call that divine retribution.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
Or any pig within stabbing distance.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
Completely theoretical, but I imagine with the offensive line in such a shitty shape, it’s better to keep Kolb as a backup and bring him in next year, than to let the sharks eat him alive
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~Thomas Jefferson
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 21, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems reasonable
He can always switch back if the line tightens up. Although that would be problematic in its own right
Maybe
But the Oline is really not as bad as it seems. I watched the game tape, and they were okay to me.
McNabb 1
Kolb 0
THE CHOSEN ONE
M.Vick is the only QB in the league that can play behind that ragedy ass O Line.
Can't wait for the conference call
where he explains the decision. I saw that Chris Mortensen and the Eagles Insider tweeted that, but I wonder where they got it from?
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
I know, right?
There once was a time we could predict Big Red’s every move
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by D3Keith on Sep 21, 2010 8:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Andy’s been watching too much Always Sunny. He’s decided to turn into a Charlie-esque Wild Card.
Looks like he cut the brakes on the rape van that is the Eagles’ plan for the future. WILD CARD!
(Hope you watch Always Sunny, it’s just that’s what first came to mind when I read this and I couldn’t help but post it.)
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
times a changin
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by NorthPhillyKid on Sep 21, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not
and I recognize what Vick has done, but Kolb prepared all offseason for this. The kid needed more of a chance.
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
i agree with both
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If Football Had A Church , Brian Dawkins Would Be My Preacher. -NPK
Creator of "Jibta" - NPK
"i know talent .. the eagles do not " – JIBTA
by NorthPhillyKid on Sep 21, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
WOW
Already? If Vick doesn’t take the Eagles to the Superbowl………… Maybe Reid sensed something in the locker room after the Detriot game that Vick was the way to go?
eff you we winning anyway
A.I. IS BACKKKKKKK
My thoughts precisely
when I saw the tweet about it. Maybe it’s just a bad report or something?
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
BE NICE
There’s no need to kill anyone or your self (lmao) }:-)
LOL
Well played. Reid was afraid of the writer calling him racist.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
That's absurd
There’s a million better reasons than race. Not to mention the Trentonian isn’t exactly an outlet with national impact.
Def. didn’t see Reid doing this. Definitely justifies the $5 mil … And makes sense in that Reid had the original woodie for him.
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by D3Keith on Sep 21, 2010 6:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yep.
It’s all good, though. I do the same thing all the time.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah sometimes it's even good to answer seriously
Just in case.
Def guilty of speed reading on that one. My B
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by D3Keith on Sep 21, 2010 6:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Lol it’s no big deal, dude. Everyone does that. All you said is was it’s absurd anyway, which I agree with wholeheartedly.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
joe_D
just got a bonner
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by NorthPhillyKid on Sep 21, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe your perfect storm has struck. Enjoy your 2 favs in 2 weeks!
I want a championship!
by Lombardi and Broad on Sep 21, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
With this shit offensive line, the Michael Vick decision makes sense
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 21, 2010 5:56 PM EDT reply actions
FUNERAL ARRANGEMENTS
If K.Kolb tries to play behind this O line he will definitely get killed.
I was thinking this the other day, but that’s the sane thing to do and we all know how Andy feels about sanity…
by michellemtsu on Sep 21, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Sane or not...
I happen to agree with you, but I can’t imagine this sits well with the teams “future QB-turned starting QB-turned future starting QB”.
The Eagles went from having the leagues highest paid backup QB to the … well, the highest paid backup QB.
"i know talent .. the eagles do not " – JIBTA
this would be the only reason that made sense to me
but in reality, the OLine wasn’t that bad. They simply brought more guys than we could block. Theoretically that should leave some open guys on quick slant
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
WHO'S CALL?
I got Jeffrey Laurie making this call. A.Reid is not this big.
Lurie hates Vick
The fact he trusts Reid & the triumvirate is the only reason Vick’s here.
I put this one on any coach that watched that game tape over & over
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by D3Keith on Sep 21, 2010 8:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Has to be concussion related…
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RIP JJ
No
No, all wrong. Ugh. Watch us draft terrelle Pryor next year
by HankM on Sep 21, 2010 5:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
No way
Brandon Graham would break his legs in practice. Seriously I would expect nothing less as a Michigan fan
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Why in the world would we do that?
We already have a better version in Vick. And Vick is only 30, which isn’t old for a QB.
I was in favor of Kolb, but, if Vick is really the starter going forward, I"ll be behind him 100%. Afterall, he is one of those generational talent guys, if he CAN put it all together watch out. Of course, you’d think he would have already done so by now……Whatever happens, it’ll be an interesting year.
I'm an Eagles fan
I’ll be behind whoever is under center…but I really think Kolb deserves a bigger shot
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
will be a horrible nfl quarterback
look at pat white
"Bills everywhere, trill everything, and Drake just stand for Do Right And Kill Everything..."
Shocked
Totally unexpected. The mind has to wonder whether this is being done for football reasons or health concerns. If this is the choice, I can’t see it being a one week thing. Looking forward, the environment for Week 4 with McNabb in the house would be such an uninviting spot to throw Kolb in.
by andyreidswaistline on Sep 21, 2010 5:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
uhm...
Wow. 3 things.
Is vick being extended past this year?
Is kevin on the trading block or still the future?
And I’m bothered by the fact that I immediated wanted mcnabbs reaction.
2010-11 Predictions:
Kevin Kolb will go to the probowl and complete >65% of passes.
Jeremy Maclyn will have more receptions than Miles Austin & Steve Smith
Graham will have the starting LDE spot tied up by week 5, win ROTY, and have >10 Sacks
11-5 finish.
by corn on the kolb on Sep 21, 2010 5:58 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
McNabb is a Redskin now
So who cares what he thinks?
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The Fuck?
I mean its cool Vick looked fanfuckingtastic but didnt see this coming
GO FUCKING EAGLES!!!
UDDDDAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Η κόλαση δεν έχει μυστικά
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!!!!!!
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FUCK, when twoonefive sees this he’ll have a bigger ego than TO.
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I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
Well he did put up quite the fight didn't he
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
I heard a report that Kolb was experiencing head pain in practice.
by JimmyK on Sep 21, 2010 5:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I agree. Pretty disappointed, though, this would’ve been the perfect opportunity for him to get his swagger back against a bad opponent.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Yup, yup & yup
So many valid points being made.
I have a funny feeling we’re not married to either guy and we haven’t seen the last of Kolb.
The contract stuff will eventually be a worry. We have to play it right to avoid being left in the cold long term.
But later for that.
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by D3Keith on Sep 21, 2010 6:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yup, yup & yup
So many valid points being made.
I have a funny feeling we’re not married to either guy and we haven’t seen the last of Kolb.
The contract stuff will eventually be a worry. We have to play it right to avoid being left in the cold long term.
But later for that.
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by D3Keith on Sep 21, 2010 6:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
That's fine
But then why name him the week 3 starter a few days ago? Take your time. Now, it looks like he lost his job to Vick instead of a persisting injury.
Whatever the reason, I am disappointed and think Andy handled the situation very poorly. Unfair to Kolb and to Vick.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
maybe
there is some shit about to come down hill with concussions and the birds dont wanna be at the front of the line for finger pointing
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Creator of "Jibta" - NPK
"i know talent .. the eagles do not " – JIBTA
Then what about Stew
UDDDDAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Η κόλαση δεν έχει μυστικά
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!!!!!!
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Protect Kolb, give him another year, let Vick show that he still has all of the tools, and deal him at the trade deadline for something substantial in return. Scratch the year, get picks, and be better off next year
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 21, 2010 6:00 PM EDT reply actions
they just said that it was a football decision
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
by howard is better than pujols on Sep 21, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Derek Gunn said it on Daily news live
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
by howard is better than pujols on Sep 21, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Adam Schefter
just tweeted that from the way they’re handling it it seems like Vick’s won the starting job. Not exactly undeniable proof, but Schefter’s pretty good.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions
how does he win the starting job. kolb played ONE HALF
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
by howard is better than pujols on Sep 21, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions
No idea. I’m really not a fan of it myself, either. I’d much rather Kolb get a chance to show what he’s got.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
That makes no sense
Vick has played incredibly well in the regular season, when it’s mattered. Would you rather him be a practice superstar, like Mr. Kolb, or actually execute and deliver on Sundays?
vick sucked in preseason too
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
by howard is better than pujols on Sep 21, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually less if you deduct Vick’s snaps.
by andyreidswaistline on Sep 21, 2010 6:08 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
im confused
Daily news live says its just for week 3, other news sources say its permeant. which one?
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
by howard is better than pujols on Sep 21, 2010 6:01 PM EDT reply actions
Ugh, I guess we’re all in this season.
Here’s my Kool-Aid positive spin – The Eagles smell blood in a very crappy NFC East?
Hell, I can’t even buy that. I hate this news.
by JimmyK on Sep 21, 2010 6:04 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Vick will succeed this season. I just don’t think it’s in the best longterm interests of the team.
by JimmyK on Sep 21, 2010 6:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I like it. We get a similar- maybe better- McNabb. I never thought Kolb had what it took, so this is great news.
And the crappy NFC East theory isn’t bad. Cowboys can’t score TDs. The Giants have no offense or defense. And the Redskins? We’ll they’re still the Redskins.
McNabb 1
Kolb 0
I never thought Kolb had what it took
I guess you don’t trust anyone without experience, but how will they get experience if no one trusts them
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
Its not that I think he needs experience to get better, I think no matter how much experience he gets he won’t be good. But I was, and still am, willing to be wrong.
But I’m also colored by the fact that McNabb should never have been traded.
McNabb- 1
Kolb- benched after 10 passes!
Vick- 1
I believed the FO
when they traded McNabb, I was told it was b/c Kolb was ready. So, I took that and ran with it.
NOW…they seem to say Kolb isn’t ready…so the trade of McNabb is stupid!
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
Seriously, what the fuck are you blathering on about greenbeef?
Do you have ANYTHING substantial to add to the conversation, or are you just a total fuckin retard?
Brennan Huff: I have a belly full of white dog crap in me, and now you lay this shit on me?
Oh and I forgot, (lmao) }:-)
Brennan Huff: I have a belly full of white dog crap in me, and now you lay this shit on me?
Did you read the post, or any comments
It’s reported it was for football reasons, Vick earned it.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
At the time,
we didn’t know whether it was injury or football related. It had only just been announced
He posted this yesterday when we didn’t really know that. There were almost no details diverged for a good half an hour.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 22, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
This better be injury related...
Otherwise it makes absolutely no sense.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Derek Gunn says its a “football decision”
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
by howard is better than pujols on Sep 21, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Which makes this team “a disgrace and a joke.”
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
agree, i was looking forward to what kold could do.
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
by howard is better than pujols on Sep 21, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Makes perfect sense
Mike McGlynn is our starting center, Jason Peters is on the ground crying in pain every chance he gets
Do you want that protecting your investment?
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by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 21, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I would rather Kolb learn by having to deal with adversity like most starting NFL QB’s than to waste an entire with him sitting the bench. I seriously doubt Kolb would want to resign her if the team is that sure after 10 passes that he isn’t the guy.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Kolb will learn nothing from playing with an injured and inferior offensive line. Also, I do believe that this has an “elevating Michael Vick” stock written all over it
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants"
~Thomas Jefferson
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 21, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes he is under contract through 2011 and if there is a 2011 season then he is either starting or he is the most expensive backup in football at $12.25 mil a year.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
It’s a shitty situation, but I don’t think this is a “Michael Vick is better than Kevin Kolb” discussion. This is more of a “Kolb needs a few more weeks, lets see what Vick can do” and then trade his ass to somewhere like Cleveland, or gasp Arizona, or*gasp again* San Francisco
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants"
~Thomas Jefferson
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 21, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Why would anyone trade for Vick when he is a FA after this year? Even if they trade for him at the dead line it’s going to take a week or two for him to get acclimated to the team and their offense, by then, the team is what? 10 games into the season?
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Sign, extend. What was the purpose of bringing back Michael Vick if he was to be a back up for his 2 years here? That was the intent, so I must think that because he is a highly paid back up that the Eagles front office was and is still hellbent on trading him
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants"
~Thomas Jefferson
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 21, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you kidding me?
This is the worst possible thing we could do for the long-term success of this team. Unless it’s injury-related.
"He wasn't an astronaut, he was a tv comedian! And he was just using space travel as a metaphor for beating his wife!"
At least this thread topic isn't...
Breaking: Andy Reid Names Omar Gaither As Eagles Starter
by andyreidswaistline on Sep 21, 2010 6:02 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Wtf..was kolb not looking good in practice or something?? I’m fine with vick but I just want some answers
by jjrome on Sep 21, 2010 6:03 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Lol
Was trying so hard to get him on my team..both him and Vick but failed.
Why you mad?
by The One Who Wears The Crown on Sep 21, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
got both, ha
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I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
me too
feel downright awful for kevin though
by Get Jackson a better nickname on Sep 21, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Holy SHIT !!!
Unbelieveable news. I cant blame him though, Kolb would have gotten friggin murdered behind this line. Go eagles !
Oh. My. God.
I am a total mixture of excitement, fear and shock. WOW. WOWWOW. I had this discussion with someone on another thread and I said it then…Reid wants to win the SB this year and that is why this makes sense. He is totally committed to winning now and that excites me.
Dedication without talent is a daydream. Talent without dedication is a nightmare.
by LeonSA on Sep 21, 2010 6:05 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
ummm...
Even with vick, the eagles probably won’t win the superbowl this year…not with their defense.
by PhilsForever on Sep 21, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
NEW FLASH !!!!!!!!
As long as Andy Reid is the f__ked coach we’re not going to win a SB any way (lmao) }:-)
this is horseshit
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
by howard is better than pujols on Sep 21, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
They were a pretty pitiful ten passes
When four of your incompletions should have been outright intercepted…I don’t want you starting on my team.
I think Kolbs concussion may have caused serious problems. I wouldnt be surprised to see andy announce that Kolb is going to be on IR the rest of the year. That would make sense. If he is making him starter purely on the past 2 games of football, thats not really fair to Kolb. Thats like saying philly fans hate mcnabb because 30 people booed him at the draft.
You can muff a punt but can't punt a muff
he was cleared, they are reporting it has nothing to with injury
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
by howard is better than pujols on Sep 21, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
A season on IR?
Isn’t that a bit much for a concussion?
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You never know with Clay Matthews. Lol.
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by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
FINALLY
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Reid will elaborate in like 20 to 25 minutes.
Why you mad?
by The One Who Wears The Crown on Sep 21, 2010 6:06 PM EDT reply actions
Stupid
This has WTF written all over it. It is a complete 180 from what Andy has been saying all along. This is a win now move. I don’t know, I think that we are a year or two away, even with Vick. This sets us back a year or two IMHO.
This sucks.
Go Eagles!
reid said last night and this morning that kolb is starter. management must be breathing down his neck and now he’s trying to save his job
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
by howard is better than pujols on Sep 21, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s what made it so strange to me. Why the change of heart? He seemed so adamant about Kolb starting.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
This may be just for game 3
Everyone should relax before all the info is released.
You can muff a punt but can't punt a muff
how about this...
If Kolb were to get another concussion, (likely with this line) the NFL and the press would be ALL over them. A PR nightmare the organization doesnt need. Vicks here one year…Kolb sat this long, let him sit some more. He has 10 million reasons to be content with that.
Is VICK that much better now????
the guy was NEVER a good passer. I dont care if he diced up the Lions — everyone does
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
He took six sacks against the Lions
Do we really want to send Kolb out there right after a concussion like that? If there is ANY doubt about his health, they need to take their time. If he played against Detroit he would have taken a lot of hits (not a knock on his mobility our o-line just sucks right now)
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
I don’t care if he diced up the Chiefs- everybody does.
McNabb- 1
Kolb- benched after 10 passes!
Vick- 1
Not really a fair comparison. They’ve got a much bigger running game and their defense was ridonkulous in the first half.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Both teams put up 22 points
And Kolb arguably had better receivers (Vernon Davis is better than Celek, but Maclin and Jackson are far superior to Morgan and Crabtree).
Not a knock on Kolb, all I’m saying is that NO’s defense isn’t exactly the Baltimore Ravens
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
They’re still really solid, though. Not like some pushover. That’s the point that Joe was making, I assume, and one that I would make. bdawk4ever was trying to downplay Kolb because all he did was put up big points against a pushover D, and the Saints had and still have a solid defense.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
True
But my point is you can’t use one game, or half’s, for either. I’m not opposed to the move, but really it doesn’t make too much sense.
McNabb- 1
Kolb- benched after 10 passes!
Vick- 1
The score at the half was well out of reach, because Kevin Kolb did his best to make sure we were out of the game by the half
So the Saints sat back, played prevent defense, and let Kevin throw for 300.
Nobody cares. Actually watch the film of games once in a while.
His first half stats from that game
Were very good.
tut tut
For for those of you that have argued that most of Kolb’s yardage came against the Saints’ prevent defense in the second half, here are his first half numbers…
14/22, 196 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT. Halftime score – 17-13, Saints. I guess we can put that nonsense to bed.
That's great Bobby, but we don't have Dance Dance Revolution, so... you're dumb.
by alcatraz0109 on Sep 21, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
THAT WAS THEN, THIS IS NOW. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE.
This is who he is now, new & improved, like it or not. Enjoy the ride haters (LMAO) }:-)
omg lol
this is the best news ive heard all day why the fuck r all u kids bitching NOo0o)Oo0oO)O))O)O@#@#)(!!!!! kolb looked like shit during end of preseason and in 1st game vick looked great……. would u guys rather rebuild or win?
Vick looked even worse in preseason. To be honest, most people who wanted Kolb as the starter just want Kevin to get a real chance to show whether Reid was right or not.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions
ur right
vick did look worse…. in preseason….. but thats the value of having preseason games is that they dont count and they allow a person to improve when game time comes……. kolb didnt improve he just got a whole lot worse
by thegreatginzo on Sep 21, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
All I’m saying is you were knocking on Kolb for playing pretty poorly in preseason, then saying Vick is amazing. So it’s not really a fair thing to knock on Kolb for if Vick was worse. I’ll agree with you that Kolb didn’t look good in Game 1, but it was for 7 non-concussed passes on a positional rotation with Vick. Not really anything meaningful to draw huge conclusions on.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
i have nothing against kolb
i think he is a great pocket passer and very accuate with his arm……… but he will never survive on this team with this fuckin horrid o line
by thegreatginzo on Sep 21, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
But having Vick as a starter kinda weighs it out.
Why you mad?
by The One Who Wears The Crown on Sep 21, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
All right. I just thought you were condemning him for his bad preseason and then saying Vick is awesome, so I had to call you on that.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Initial thoughts
- This isn’t to ‘protect Kolb’ because of the offensive line or to let him sit.
- I really wonder how much of this was Reid’s call.
- Eagles’ ownership isn’t content to potentially go through a painful 4 or 5 win season so they are putting in Vick.
Been busy with work and a new girlfriend,
but had to come on here and see the shitstorm that ensues this lol.. My last comment was a “yall shuld bench kolb 4 vick” joke but I see that’s what is going on here.. wow.
I am the Green Man of Middle Tennessee.
Son this game on the 24th bout to be nuts
There are PETA people already on my facebook going to boycott it and the DC games
UDDDDAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Lol
We better get on the damn television
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E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!!!!!!
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How about no
I dont want to be a Disney villian
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E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!!!!!!
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Screw Peta
Just throwing that out there
by chase8008 on Sep 21, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
screw peta indeed
"Bills everywhere, trill everything, and Drake just stand for Do Right And Kill Everything..."
its not like we where expecting anything this year. i say let kola play this year and get his legs under him for a real run next year
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
by howard is better than pujols on Sep 21, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Kolb has proven
Jack and $hit in that order. It isn’t fair to praise him just as it isn’t fair to damn him either.
he played for less than ONE HALF
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
by howard is better than pujols on Sep 21, 2010 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
who gives a fuck
how many games do we have to lose and how many 28 yard halfs do we have to see out of the guy to figure out he sucks and we wont make the playoffs?
by thegreatginzo on Sep 21, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
with the way our shitty division has been performing in first few weeks......
ill take my chances on michael vick taking us to the play offs ……….. not a qb who cant throw more than 28 yards
by thegreatginzo on Sep 21, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
But what goes does one year do? What does getting to the playoffs this year mean? This team has done that countless times and has yet to win the big prize. One more year of that means nothing.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Well
at least we aren’t doing in the same way as we used to!
McNabb- 1
Kolb- benched after 10 passes!
Vick- 1
Rodgers had worse numbers through the same amount of pass attempts.
Get your head out of your ass. You have no empirical evidence to suggest how good or bad of a QB Kolb truly is. No one does. That is a fact.
Totally agree.
That’s why I wanted him to start so bad, just so we could get a good metric and end this whole hullabaloo one way or another.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
You have to give Kolb at least one more game. I mean, 1-2, or even 1-3 isn’t that bad of a hole, especially if he plays decent.
McNabb- 1
Kolb- benched after 10 passes!
Vick- 1
+100000000000000
"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
by howard is better than pujols on Sep 21, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
And then the wuss got KO'd
I admit, even I think it’s comical how little time he had to prove himself. But I do revel in it, so yeah
First thoughts...
I get home from work and pull up this website and initially think this is obviously a prank…
….now…I’m glad….
I never liked Kolb and I actually like our chances with Vick…
right on man
id rather see vick in there as well
by thegreatginzo on Sep 21, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
#Eagles source: Reid still thinks Kolb is a high quality starter, but that Vick was playing too well to bench
Jeff McLane
“#Eagles source: Reid still thinks Kolb is a high quality starter, but that Vick was playing too well to bench.”
https://twitter.com/Jeff_McLane/statuses/25156027808
McNabb 1
Kolb 0
Wow...
I never expected that. It seemed like Kolb was Reid’s guy and it seemed like this would never happen unless Kolb was spectacularly awful. This kind of reminds me of how everything went with Leinart here in Arizona.
I’m not an Eagles fan, but I do think Vick is the best QB on your roster. It’ll be interesting to see what he can do if he is the starter for the entire year.
Lifelong Arizona Cardinals/Chicago Bears fan [I have always lived in Arizona, dad is from Chicago].
I can't stand fair-weather/bandwagon fans, stick with your team, throughout the good and the bad. And don't switch to whichever team wins the Super Bowl each year.
But Leinart got so many chances!
Remember that Devin Hester game when Arizona got staked to a 23-3 lead and blew it? Kolb has never had ANYTHING like that happen
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Haha.
Well fuck. I’m glad 7 non-concussed pass attempts is all we need to know. If we don’t win the SB with Vick this year, this is a mistake. This is now going to be McNabb-Kolb all over again assuming they extend Vick. And if they don’t extend Vick, and we don’t win the SB, what was the point?
If I’m Kolb and they give Vick a contract I demand a trade. He just got fucked in the ass big time.
by NOLACuse on Sep 21, 2010 6:13 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
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"Who's Been Eatin' Hummus" DJAX
by howard is better than pujols on Sep 21, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol at Kolb demanding a trade
I don’t think any other NFL team would wanna pay Kolb that much money. Especially being as though he never showed anything. Why would a guy who is being paid 12 million demand a trade. Kolb will probablyt never make 12 million again in his life. And he’s making 12 million all while wearing a headset on the sideline with no helmet on chewing gum with his hand on his hip.
by phillyisback on Sep 21, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Why demand a trade?
So that he can play.
Maybe you like doing jack-shit all day at your job, but I’m guessing he prefers to actually play football while he makes that money. If he got traded he would make that much money from the other team, so I don’t see what your point is about him not making that much again.
And you don’t think the Bills would want him? Or the Browns? Or the Cardinals? They all have shit for QBs already and Kolb at least has potential, something none of those teams’ QBs have in any form.
Eagles' FO offseason moves
Makes them look like rubes especially with all of the inflation of Kolb and handing him that huge paycheck.
I just got done telling my dad the same thing. They went from the highest paid backup to and even higher priced backup.
"i know talent .. the eagles do not " – JIBTA
if qbs
didnt have the motivation as jarmarcus russell and play like shit after the paycheck is handed over then we wouldnt be in this situation
by thegreatginzo on Sep 21, 2010 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think it’s a matter of motivation. To me, the line play has been ass in nearly every game. That’s where I think the decision is being made… who can succeed more with this Oline made of paper mache.You could hand me a million bucks and I’d be motivated as shit to lead a team, but it doesn’t mean I can.
"i know talent .. the eagles do not " – JIBTA
So...
Are the Eagles drafting the next Messiah next year? Are we going to be forced to do this all over again?
"i know talent .. the eagles do not " – JIBTA
If they draft Terrelle Pryor
I may have to stop watching. I cannot root for that buckeye piece of shit
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Haha… I’m just tired of the QB drama in Philly. For the past 5 years it’s been drama. I thought the Eagles were moving past that. God I hope they don’t go after Pryor.
"i know talent .. the eagles do not " – JIBTA
he’s from Pennsylvania
but, we should draft Denard Robinson
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
He goes to Ohio State
BUT YES DENARD ROBINSON IS AWESOME OMG I NEED TO GO CHANGE MY PANTS
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Denard Robinson
That's great Bobby, but we don't have Dance Dance Revolution, so... you're dumb.
by alcatraz0109 on Sep 21, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
he's not eligible
That's great Bobby, but we don't have Dance Dance Revolution, so... you're dumb.
by alcatraz0109 on Sep 21, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Denard Robinson may be good in college
But he’ll be trash in the NFL, look what happened to Pat White.
We should go after Andrew Luck from Stanford that kids the real deal
"Bills everywhere, trill everything, and Drake just stand for Do Right And Kill Everything..."
could be worse, (see Eric Byrnes & the Seattle Mariners)
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
That whole Eric Byrnes saga was actually well worth the game we lost because of him
Since it was a lost season anyway, my God he was absolutely hysterical to watch.
I pine for the days of Eric Byrnes.
I'll probably get yelled at but,
this is weak. You trade away the best QB this franchise had (McNabb) and go balls out with Kolb all season. Then as soon as he shows a little youth and gets injured he gets benched? I would have rather kept McNabb for another year or two than have Vick starting for us. Sigh.
Go Eagles.
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No yelling from me, just agreeing.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
If we don’t trade mcnabb do we get graham and allen. I still think giving up mcnabb with kolb and vick still on the roster and getting those 2 is worth it
by Mark Wright on Sep 21, 2010 8:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Andy
hurry up and get your fat ass on tv and explain yourself!
I'M GONNA TRIP BALLS!!! -Frank Reynolds
Did Reid just sign his death warrant? Without a SB win this year I don't see how he didn't.
Not sure how he gets out of this one if Vick ends up sucking and Kolb demands a trade for getting bitch-slapped. Vick will regress. The question is how much, and can the Eagles withstand it?
Until this past off season it was always believed that Reid was the management.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Then Reid is as good as done already.
He never let management (or fans) decide for him before. Why start now?
He let actual results dictate his decision for once?
He has to go. That’s too much common sense for a head coach to be using!
Blast him and his ability to know good quarterbacking when he sees it!
No, read what I was replying to.
If Reid is only making this decision because he was leaned on by management, his position is tenuous.
I was making no comment on whether or not he based his decision on results. Perhaps he did. That’s not what I was responding to though.
Remember that this is only the 2nd qb/coach relation ship reid has had since in philly. Mcnabb and reid had a special relationship and in I was I think it hurt the eagles in some situations, it shouldn’t be that shocking that he handles this a little differently
by Mark Wright on Sep 21, 2010 8:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
How can people damn this move already?
yeah it makes them look foolish on a couple of accounts at the onset but you have no idea on how Vick plays.
This offensive line isn’t as bad as people make it out to be. My bet is that Wells replaces Cole (who has bene terrible and doing his best MJG impersonation of late) this week or next and the offensive line starts to look a little better once they have Cole out and a bit more continuity.
Because this is an all-in, bet the farm move.
This is a Vikings going after Favre move. If they don’t win the SB, they could have just fucked over an incredibly talented young team. If Vick plays well, but ultimately plays like Vick (aka mediocre and unaccomplished) what was the point? If they just let Vick go after the year, they just wasted a year when Kolb could have been learning and getting acclimated. Now that happens next year instead. Or if they extend Vick, Kolb has every reason to demand a trade. Then we are really screwed if Vick turns out to be overrated.
For a team that prides itself on having a long term plan...
this move stinks of desperation. How do you give a guy a 12 mil extension, trade the franchises best QB all under the belief that Kolb is the future of this team and then 7 passes into his reign you are now sure he isn’t that guy anymore?
Reid has always been a joke as a coach but been a great talent evaluator and manager of the team, now? I don’t even think he can manage that.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Did I hear right that Reid is having a press conference at 6:30?
"He wasn't an astronaut, he was a tv comedian! And he was just using space travel as a metaphor for beating his wife!"
CSN has Phillies Pregame
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
For real, all of you guys that were at training camp
Did Kolb look that good? Seriously, I wasn’t there.
Didn’t you guys say that Vick was only so so??
I don’t know- they both looked good to me, but I went early. I heard later in camps Kolb got worse.
McNabb- 1
Kolb- benched after 10 passes!
Vick- 1
practice isnt live regular season games against the other team
you can produce in camp and in practice but if you dont produce for a winning team with live games that count you lose your job to the better producing qb. we are not the rams, browns, or panthers, they dont have qbs as good as vick for backups.
"Bleed green for life my nocos"
flip flopping like John Kerry
Seriously, changing your mind (Reid) like this is retarded.
In the end, though, maybe it’s better. Look what happened to Matt Stafford. He has all the tools, great receiver, great running back, big tight end…and he’s out for several weeks. We don’t want that happening to Kolb. Lots of qb’s with great potential have never gotten their careers off the ground because of poor line play.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
Vick was awesome don’t get me wrong … but it was the 2 and 32 Lions we are talking about who let up 372 yards in the air to Cutler the week before. Color me unimpressed.
They call me The Professor.
Cutler lit up the Cowboys too
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I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
vick is starting because
1. the better more experienced qb
2. the lockeroom was behind him after game 2
3. andy reid knows 1 and 2 and had the guts to change his plan
by andyfrombrooklyn on Sep 21, 2010 6:23 PM EDT reply actions
Man, I said the locker room wanted Vick
But I believe I was called crazy, glad Reid sided with what was best for his players. It’s not fair to the players to say that they were going to waste a season for one player, that’s not fair to all the other players on the team.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
makes no sense
Vick is 30, still needs to prove himself. Kolb is young but unproven. Do you think we will get back the second round pick we invested in him, especially with his contract?
He’s staying put and is probably the future.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
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I live in Atlanta and even since McNabb got traded I’ve been arguing for Kevin Kolb and saying that Mike Vick wouldn’t start for a while, and that’s only if Kolb really bombed. I’m going to be eating my words for the rest of the season now. I never expected Reid to do this after how he stood behind Donovan for all those years.
A marked difference between Kevin Kolb and Donovan McNabb
McNabb was a fantastic quarterback for many years IN SPITE of his weapons. Kolb has some of the best skill position players available in the NFL, and still can’t crack subpar. After 10 throws, which I feel is a downright fair sample size.
I’m laughing again.
After 10 throws, which I feel is a downright fair sample size.
that’s not something I would tell many people
Every single one of my posts dealing with this issue on Kolb's side have been 100% satire
I’m glad you didn’t quite figure it out after any of them.
oh ok. I guess I look dumb now. My bad…but you must admit, your satirical comments are pretty similar to some people’s serious comments. Sorry
I do, and that makes it even better
But it’s really not your fault. People actually do post like this, and mean what they say.
NONONONONO this cannot be true
all the hell he gets is ten damn throw… i guess this was more of a qb problem than we all thought
sucks
for the thousands of people that spent money on Kolb jerseys!!! ahahahah
#Eagles source: Team is intent on winning now and with shaky o-line Vick gives the team the best shot.
That makes 100% sense. It is also 100% the wrong way to think.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Exactly.
"He wasn't an astronaut, he was a tv comedian! And he was just using space travel as a metaphor for beating his wife!"
So..if given the choice...
You’d rather wait 10 years for the perfect Super Bowl run than have go to the Super Bowl with an underrated team. I’d rather win now and often…seize the day…
That's not the decision the Eagles face
We have no defense and no offensive line. Peyton Manning would not win a Super Bowl with this team.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
And Kolb could break his leg next week and be out for the rest of his life...we don't know...
Everything is done without knowing the clear results. We can’t tell the future…but I believe we can win more with Vick now…and I kinda hope we keep him…
Ok here i come with reassurance to myself
If Vick could take that Atlanta team as far as he did just imagine what he will do with our much more talented team should be great…..I hope
UDDDDAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
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This is starting to smell like a
Kerry Collins, Vince Young situation for the rest of the season. We saw how that worked for the Titans last year.
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
Well the Titans ended the season as probably the hottest team in football behind Vince Young.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Titans have nobody on their team but Chris Johnson...
Nobody to catch the ball…
We have excellent receivers!!!
So logically speaking,
Kolb takes over the second half of the season and leads us to not making the playoffs….which is different from Kolb starting all seasona nd getting expereince and not taking us to the playoffs how?
One step forward two steps back?
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
Well it’s not fair or accurate to predict what Vick or Kolb will or would do this year, the point is Kolb needs the experience. If he can get the experience having to deal with a shit O line then maybe he can really get it done if and when they actually fix the O-line.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
agreed
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
I want to throw up
Not because I don’t like Vick, but… just cause.
This has to have something to do with the injury there is no way Andy flips 180 that fast
They call me The Professor.
Why not? Reid said McNabb was his starter until he was traded to Washington.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
why the press conference then? thats hardly news
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 21, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
so you call it a day on Tuesday? 5 days before gametime?
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 21, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
it just doesn’t make sense to give your “future” QB 10 snaps then take the reigns from him because Vick had a good game and a half.
They call me The Professor.
yea, but last week we didnt know until thursday that Kolb was no go. week 2 and we find out on tuesday? this isnt about injury
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 21, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
only other reason is Kolb has completely lost the confidence of the locker room and the Eagles almost had to make this decision.
They call me The Professor.
i may buy that. perhaps a couple of the guys were vocal….
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 21, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
it just doesn’t make sense I mean Vick was good for sure but we saw this with the Falcons at some point defenses will figure him out. I don’t know this is why I don’t run a professional football team.
They call me The Professor.
cant compare him with atlanta to him with us. he’s got more weapons here. totally different….
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
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by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 21, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
does he? I don’t know maybe Warrick Dunn, Jerious Norwood, Alge Crumpler, Roddy White, Peerless Price. Vick had some weapons he’s just not a very accurate QB.
They call me The Professor.
I dont know man. we’ll have to wait it out i guess. maybe i’m off, but i’d take our 2010 eagles over the 2004 falcons.
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
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by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 21, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
He had Norwood for a year, Roddy White when he was still learning the system, Price when he was washed up. I do agree that he had two weapons in Dunn and Norwood but when you consider the fact that his number one receiver was Michael Jenkins – well, that’s not optimal, to put it lightly. He’s not accurate, obviously, but I see definite improvement, probably thanks to the Eagles staff. In Atlanta he was young and immature and ran around a lot hoping to bust the big one. This Vick is different, he’s willing to get hit, take the tackle, get those precious few yards, and looks much more accurate.
I Love Vick, and I Like Kolb.
You should
You’re a lot fucking smarter than shitsack reid and the other stooges at NovaCare.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
But I don't get that.
I thought Kolb was the unquestioned leader. Wasn’t that the story on one reason why McNabb wouldn’t work here anymore? How behind him could they have been?
I am not sure what to think right now. I started like 4 different sentences, and erased them all. Nothing looked right. And i still dont know how i stand.
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
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by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 21, 2010 6:28 PM EDT reply actions
E-A-G-L-E-S,
EAGLES. usually works in most circumstances
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Excited and dissapointed all at the same time. I think that sums it up.
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by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 21, 2010 6:28 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Screw this crap
Yes, Vick gives us the best shot right now in this year, maybe. This is the best he’s ever looked I agree, but we have far more evidence to suggest that he isn’t able to sustain this level of success.
If I’m Kolb I demand a trade right now, if its all a business I want to prove myself and get paid, can’t do that behind Vick.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
They're saying this isn't injury, this is long term football decision.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
doesnt matter where he is on the depth chart. he got almost 11mil guaranteed
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by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 21, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
While he's still with us yes
But what about his next contract? If he can go prove himself on another team he’ll be in line for more years and more money. On our bench? Maybe a one year deal to prove himself, this is a tough league, make money when you’re young, ever year you lose on the bench is a lot of money left on the table.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
supposed to start in 1 min
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 21, 2010 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont see this being a press conference if its still about Kolb being injured.
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 21, 2010 6:31 PM EDT reply actions
nor do i think they make that decision on tuesday.
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 21, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
during his first post-concussion week…we didnt even know til thursday.
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 21, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions
what else would he have said at that point though?
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
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by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 21, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions
zero planning whatsoever...
got to feel confident about our team…sigh…
What if the offseason hype
of Kolb was a media distraction and this was the plan all along
to me this seems like the owner stepping in.
I’m sure Andy Reid still wants Kolb as the starter, but I bet ownership wants Vick cuz it seems that he’ll give them a better shot at winning now.
I dunno if they threatened Reid with his job or anything like that, but can anyone rule that out?
Toney Douglas
#Eagles source: Team is intent on winning now and with shaky o-line Vick gives the team the best shot.
Sorry wrong tweet
An member of the #Eagles front office said the organization is as one on this decision.
its all good
it makes sense that its the organization and not Reid.
Toney Douglas
by FreeBradshaw on Sep 21, 2010 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you fucking kidding me?
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
by Imp on Sep 21, 2010 6:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
+4
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Kolb is number 4
=)
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I’m willing to bet it’s because of the shit offensive line. They would’ve gotten Kolb killed. Weren’t all of us calling the O-line a weakness before the draft? Boom.
Couldn’t agree more! This line is atrocious right now.
"i know talent .. the eagles do not " – JIBTA
Actually its not
The tape last week showed me they are improving. They will be decent pretty quick.
McNabb- 1
Kolb- benched after 10 passes!
Vick- 1
The Eagles lead the NFL in sacks given up the first two weeks. Our tight ends and running backs stink at blocking too.
But of those 6 sacks last week, maybe 2 were on the line. Watch the tape.
McNabb- 1
Kolb- benched after 10 passes!
Vick- 1
Then they were on Vick?
What’s your point? And this line has a long way to go. Kolb’s concussion is proof
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
I highly doubt that. Vick escaped from 3-4 sacks by himself. Did you see the Green Bay game? Kolb was getting murdered.
Not at run blocking
They were pretty decent at that.
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I know you're not talking about the eagles.
If Vick’s the new starting QB, does this mean the eagles just became a run first team?
by KornontheKobb on Sep 21, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I wholeheartedly admit the o-line did well run blocking on Sunday. LeSean had some great holes to run through at times. In my previous criticisms I guess I should have been more specific and a little less critical. It’s the pass protection that I take umbrage with.
"i know talent .. the eagles do not " – JIBTA
It’s my opinion that the o-line has played poorly going back to the preseason. What I saw on Sunday was an offensive line that missed many line calls and blocking schemes up front. They did well at times and they did really poorly at times. That will happen when your o-line “qb” (Jackson) is lost to injury. The appropriate calls weren’t always made which lead to many unnecessary double teams (leaving other d-lineman abated to the backfield) and missed blitz pick-ups.
I also agree with Route36 that the TE and RB’s need to block better. You can’t blame the sacks in game one solely on Kolb’s happy feet. If there were a pocket to step up in then there would be no need for him to get happy feet and look to run or escape.
With LeSean running for 100+ yards against Detroit the O-line obviously did some things right. But there is also waaaay more room for improvement. This was Detroit, not the Steel Curtain defense. Detroit had 6 sacks against Vick. That is 6 sacks against arguably the most athletic guy on the team. That tells me that the Detroit defense was in the backfield a lot, whether it was blitz packages or not.
"i know talent .. the eagles do not " – JIBTA
Kolb
He should’ve gotten the opportunity to start the year he was drafted just like Flacco and Ryan. Hindsight is a killer, though.
Yea, that didn't work out for Vince Young or Leinart
History shows sitting a season or more increases success greatly.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Uh-huh.
Well then!
Please don’t be a fluke, Mr. Vick.
That's great Bobby, but we don't have Dance Dance Revolution, so... you're dumb.
Personally
I like Vick because he’s an excitable player and he is very mobile. Our offensive line was terrible and putting Kolb out there would give him no chance. We did put him out there and Clay Matthews absolutely mauled him, on multiple plays. I like Kolb but I’m not very high on him, and I wouldn’t mind extending Vick and trading Kolb. It’s all personal bias, but that’s just how I feel. Vick’s working as of right now. Personally, while his throws weren’t always accurate and reminded me of Donovan McNabb, he does put the balls in good places where only his receivers can get it. He does offer a double threat as a runner and a thrower. He does run his option routes well.
Honestly, if we keep Vick as a starter, he pretty much has to choose us when signing at the end of the year. We’re a winning team with talent and nothing at quarterback (assuming Kolb is unhappy and is traded) we can sign him to a multi-year deal and he has plenty left in the tank if he can run this fast at age 30. I wouldn’t even throw out the chance of him becoming a pocket passer that occasionally runs later in his career, again, like Donovan McNabb. By the time Vick is done, we can take a 1st round pick quarterback. And then we either rise or fall.
Vick gives us the best chance now, and I don’t think it mortgages our future. While Kolb would have been a great quarterback, and I hope he does become one, I’d rather win now and then go through the cycle of a new quarterback again.
I like the Eagles approach with Kolb, but I think they may have jumped the gun on McNabb’s future, and not predicted that he would still be good at this age. Because of this they were forced into a decision and all of this happened. I’m not advocating keeping McNabb, but I just found it interesting.
Disagreement is fine, these are my personal views, and they’re open to debate. I wouldn’t be unhappy if you commented on it negatively. :)
Best Chance To Win........
Thank you Andy glad you admit your Mistiake and dont stick to a broken script. Kolb Just looked lost. Somewhere McNabb is Laughing His ass off.
First time starters,
usually look that way…
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And he looked decent
in the first two starts…
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Vick probably won't.
The Redskins look pretty good and so does McNabb. And their defense is fast. The antidote to Vick has always been a fast defense.
I've been a big supporter of the Eagles FO for a long time
But this move has Dan Snyder written all over it. I’ve lost a lot of respect today … if what I am hearing is true,
Go Eagles!
What happens when
Vick goes back to preseason game 2 form? Not only will Kolb’s confidence be shot, but they just basically spit in his face.
Right.
Cause a win over Detriot is all the proof he needs.
To be fair
He also had a good half against Green Bay. That is a solid defense.
GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!
True
but the gameplan for Kolb is the polar opposite of what the gameplan for Vick would be.
Green Bay
Never gameplanned against him.
by LegendKnight22 on Sep 21, 2010 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions
with way more td's than ints
and 1000 yarfds rushing in his last atlanta season unless i read that stat wrong.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Sep 21, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions
check the stats
there is more to vick than comp%
by andyfrombrooklyn on Sep 21, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The 1.57 turnovers per game?
The barely 50% passing percentage?
The total yard average of 2,737 yards per season?
The only 1 total TD per game?
The 1.05:0.76 TD:INT ratio?
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by Scott Kessler on Sep 21, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I kind of buy into the whole Morhinweg and Reid made Vick a better QB, though
Because previously Vick was working under such astute QB minds such as Dan Reeves (who hated John Elway) and Jim Mora Jr. who yeah.
Maybe they did.
I’d believe it even. That doesn’t mean he won’t regress towards his old percentage, even if he stays above it. I have a hard time believing he will prove to be a more competent passer than McNabb for example, even with the new coaching. That should be our barometer since it’s who we gave up for what is now Vick (as opposed to Kolb).
Vick’s career best for passing is 337 yards. He has one other 300+ yard passing game that I can see. McNabb has had 31. He threw for over 400 on Sunday. (And oh yea, Kolb has two 300+ yard games already in his short career).
People cite Vick’s running ability as necessary to consider when looking at his low passing numbers. That’s all well and good, but he depended on the run in the past and got stuffed when it counted. The Eagles did it to him. All you need is a fast and disciplined defense. He will undoubtedly run into a couple of those if we make the playoffs. If he can’t get the job done through the air, he can’t get the job done.
Honestly, Vick could get away with a 56% completion rate in a Pro Bowl worthy yearas long as he continues to keep the turnovers down
His mobility makes that much of a difference
Not when he faces a fast, disciplined defense.
His mobility has been contained before and can be contained again. It is not yet clear that he has learned to adjust to that because he hasn’t faced it yet. But he will eventually and it will be telling how he reacts to being contained. I hope he steps up and takes advantage of a defense that keeps him in the pocket, but a 56% completion rate won’t be the answer in that situation.
He Started Before
He’s 1 and 1 he’s not a rookie. Vick hasn’t started in yrs and came out and balled. Why does he get a pass? He won 1 game in his career.
My question
is does Kolb go home tonight and kill a rattlesnake or a wild boar?
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I don't get it
Kolb throws ten passes, and he gets benched, while Vick has a good game against the Lions, and gets promoted?
7 passes before the concussion.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
and vick gets thrown in jail and goes from franchise player tp beggar.. what has kolb ever done to be so annointed.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Sep 21, 2010 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I honestly have no clue what your point is, but from the way I read it, you’re suggesting Kolb doesn’t deserve to be starter because he hasn’t been to jail?
because he has done nothing he should be king?
by andyfrombrooklyn on Sep 21, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Question
Why give the Jags an entire week to prepare?
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It’s the Jags. It honestly shouldn’t matter.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
We said that about the lions too
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Yeah but that had nothing to do with the offense, which is what the original question was referring to.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
I'm just being
a smartass
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Correct
We’ve never beaten the Jags in three tries. Only team that is the case.
We’ve never lost to the Jets (8 games) or the Texans (2 games.
McNabb- 1
Kolb- benched after 10 passes!
Vick- 1
I mean either way, cream puff or superbowl contender
I want our team to have the best shot at winning if they get a week to prepare we arent getting the best shot
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One thing really bothering me about this is that EVERYONE that supported Kolb said that “we have to trust the organization. They see him EVERYDAY and we dont.”
Now…the FO changes their stance and no one trusts it…..
Lets not forget….they do see him EVERYDAY. maybe they know something we dont.
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by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 21, 2010 6:40 PM EDT reply actions
This is very unlike Andy
Usually he is much more loyal than this
"Bills everywhere, trill everything, and Drake just stand for Do Right And Kill Everything..."
Yea...like when he supported McNabb for this season and then...wait a minute...
by justyn725 on Sep 21, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
completely different
if he hesitated with McNabb, his trade value drops to nothing.
You have to be loyal within your club, you don’t have to be loyal when dealing with other clubs.
EVERYONE is on the trading block, it’s just a matter of negotiating a price.
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
this does not sound like a REID move!
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
it doesn't at all
that’s what’s really bothering me
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
he is loyal to the forty some guys who are not kevin kolb
by andyfrombrooklyn on Sep 21, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
or hank basket
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions
OR perhaps this is all just a ploy to fuck with the jags. We know Vick will always get his plays. So if he just gets the first one….thats a START.
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
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by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 21, 2010 6:41 PM EDT reply actions
Being extremely optimistic
I can’t wait to see Vick raise the Lombardi Trophy over the Dallas Star come February…. Oh the Irony
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RIP JJ
yeah, i’d rather fuck people down the latter on the eagles paycheck… aka the cheerleaders
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by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
10 passes...TEN...
Are enough to throw away 3 years of training and the trade of the face of the franchise.
I’m seriously fucking astonished.
And for what? For a QB that will play for another team next year?
Is our front office this stupid?
They were supposed to start the call 15 minutes ago, but the local radio stations piped their air through the call so no one could hear anything. I don’t think they’ll even do it now. Morons at 610 and 975 don’t even know they’re doing it.
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There was supposed to be a conference call before they did the PC with the cameras.
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& ur suprised y?
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by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Personally, I’m not as sure this is a condemnation of Kolb as this is a condemnation of our OL.
If Kolb is still feeling residual concussion effects that may last for weeks (and they feel it would hinder his development too much), then it’s a minimally passable explanation for giving Vick the job.
But it’s clear the line needs a kick in the pants. Peters is the highest-paid LT in the game, Herremans is supposed to be a solid guard, Justice is less than a year removed from a big payday, and McGlynn and Cole are supposed to be serviceable fill-ins and we can barely block for shit.
If anything, Castillo’s job is on the line here.
That's great Bobby, but we don't have Dance Dance Revolution, so... you're dumb.
i actually thought about that
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by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 21, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t get it. Kolb is the first QB to throw 300 years in his first two starts, have a bad half, then get bench? What the hell? McNabb went GAMES playing like crap yet Reid stuck with him.
And why the fuck do you go with a QB like Vick?!
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
We knew McNabb could lead us to the Super Bowl though...
Kolb has not proven that yet…and…they didn’t say that they’re giving up yet on Kolb….
You’re freaking bench him and you’re not giving up on him yet? This is KILLING his career, period.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
But...we're not giving up on Vick...
We have to basically give up on one of them right now. This may kill his career and save Vick’s…
True...Dmac had to start somewhere. Not give up on him
when Dmac struggled with game winning drives. Struggled with accuracy, struggled with game management. I didn’t give up becuz I new it was a growing process
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
Donovan 'started somewhere' with Doug Pederson
He then assumed the reigns and immediately made the team 11-5 from a previous 5-11 campaign. Do not compare Kevin Kolb to early Donovan McNabb, please. There is no comparison.
Kolb was slated to take over an 11-5 team, and he would have likely made it 5-11. Progress!
Oh, wait a second…
A prevent defense and the Chiefs aren't exactly two games you write home to mommy about telling her how great you were
Again, Kolb was the reason we lost the Saints game early, and then the defense stopped caring. And the Chiefs were horrible last year and Wilma could’ve put up 150 on that defense.
I also think
that there is no way Kolb takes this quietly. Trade demand or he just won’t resign after the year. And honestly, I’ll be on his side if he requests a trade.
i dont know
If i left and the person who replaced me played as well as Vick I would understand it
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If you left not because you played poorly but because you got hurt?
If you were never given the chance you earned in the off-season and were told repeatedly was yours? I don’t think you would understand that because it doesn’t make sense.
What kind of message does this send to other players who get concussions? Yea, you should report it and sit out, but you might lose your job if you do.
I would be crying, screaming about how life is unfair if I were him
Then I would take the 12.25 million and cash it in, and I’d feel a little bit better about myself.
Because I'm sure all he cares about is the money.
Maybe he does, but he certainly doesn’t seem the kind of person that does.
Cause you were involed with this "victory"
Shut the hell up you didnt win shit
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Dude was right about the call
Let’s see how Vic plays. He should have a good week against the Jags but let’s see how he looks after 4-5 G.
A victory is against another team
Eagles beating the Lions was a victory.
Kolb and Vick are competing teammates but not enemies.
I understand you like Vick but you went way overboard with that comment.
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I am sticking to my guns. Kolb still takes 80% of the snaps. Vick just gets the first one, therefore, awarded the START :P
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
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by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 21, 2010 6:47 PM EDT reply actions
Reid DID say it’s possible that Kolb is in the rotation like Vick was with him. So you might be spot-on with this one. Lol.
(Kidding, D3Keith. :P)
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Reid
Live on pe.com
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Reid:
and uh, um and again, uh (breath) um, and (breath) and uh, um
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A very succinct summary of Andy Reid. You should write his biography.
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by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
hahaha foreal though
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
I'm in class and can't watch
This fkin blows.
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"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
This made me bust up laughing at work
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bing bing
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
about time
you see the light Reid.. KOLB SUCKS. trade him for some footballs.
it's not that i hate Kolb, i just think he SUCKS.
dude shut the fuck you.. you cry so god damn much you little barbie faggot.
it's not that i hate Kolb, i just think he SUCKS.
Shut the fuck you?
God, your absolute mangling of grammar makes me laugh.
(So does your 3rd grade behavior, BTW)
buffalo or cleveland would take him
but I guarantee we won’t trade him
"Bills everywhere, trill everything, and Drake just stand for Do Right And Kill Everything..."
Out of curiosity, did you guarantee Kolb would start over Vick for the remainder of the season, barring health?
I enjoy this dance very much
just ducked all of that “who told kolb” stuff. he absolutely just lied
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 21, 2010 6:52 PM EDT reply actions
not really… he said “I told Kevin”.
Again, “not an injury related issue”
by Ralf E Chubbs on Sep 21, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
yea…after he repeated the question that WE could even clearly hear. No chance that was fully truthful
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 21, 2010 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
He did seem to think a long time for an easy question. Not too sure about that, but something to think about.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Translation on Kolb's reaction
He was pissed, and probably demanded a trade.
Shot a rattlesnake
and then killed a boar.
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
Did fatso basically said
…that Kolb went bananas when he found out?
What did he say
I DONT HAVE FLASJH AT WORK :(
UDDDDAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Η κόλαση δεν έχει μυστικά
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!!!!!!
"fuk u i hate peas"- CNCITINFO (Random BGN troll)
Im dissappointed in you Hypnotoad
Our team should be 32-0 if hypnotoad is fan tsk tsk tsk
UDDDDAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
Η κόλαση δεν έχει μυστικά
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!!!!!!
"fuk u i hate peas"- CNCITINFO (Random BGN troll)
babbled something and said that Kolb is a very competitive guy…his face was kinda story telling though.
by FireTheWalrus on Sep 21, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, but he can't win NOW remember
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
I can think of a few
"Bills everywhere, trill everything, and Drake just stand for Do Right And Kill Everything..."
Heckert said he would have given up 2 first rounders for him.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
hahahahaaa
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
Yeeesh
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
nah. he said masturbation process.
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Sep 21, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
no
he said masochism process
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Saw a comment on here the other day about him wanting way too badly to have his cake and eat it too. That’s what first came to mind and still seems about right for me. Just make your decision, don’t flip flop, don’t try to have both.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Critics of the FO and Reid
Will have a field day with this press conference and rightly so. What a f@ckup.
" young Qbs need to be allowed a maturation process….this is not an idictment on the oline" oh boy…hes full of shit
What has Kolb been doing for the past 3 years, twiddling his thumbs? Jackass.
by michellemtsu on Sep 21, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
thats fantastic
young QBs need to be allowed a maturation process…
Hey Andy, if 3 years isn’t enough…what kind of process are we talking about here?!?!?!?!?!
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
A 105 QB rating!
In 6 quarters!
Reid is a moron. Fire him now. don’t even allow him back into his office after the press conference. This is absurd.
r u kidding 105
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
What channel is this press conf on?
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Sep 21, 2010 6:55 PM EDT reply actions
PE.com
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
...
i hope he doesn’t… how does that make any sense?
by Ralf E Chubbs on Sep 21, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Eagles fan
but I hate the decision. He has every right to ask for one and I would be on his side 100%. Reid seems full of shit right now.
Reid says he wants Kolb as the Eagles QB but never
said the he wasn’t going to be traded.
@Mitchman88 on Twitter
but never
said the he wasn’t going to be traded.
ummmmmmm… yes he did
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
This is the worst Andy Reid press conference ever
I am a fan of Big Red but the amount of doublespeak in this conference is ridiculous.
Saying "doublespeak" is polite of you
I’d say just plain straight-out lies.
"Verde que te quiero verde..."
Το πράσινο είναι ζωή!
That's right, I bleed green multiculturally
"if you shut someone down with class, it's more effective" - Udalango
I'm wondering about this from an "offense" standpoint
Is there any connection between signing Bell (more running options and he’s supposed to be a good receiver) and promoting Vick? Note that McCoy got more carries in the Lions game.
Maybe the idea behind this is to give Vick more offensive options so opposing defenses don’t know what’s coming, in the sense of not only pass or run, but what kind of pass or run.
"Verde que te quiero verde..."
Το πράσινο είναι ζωή!
That's right, I bleed green multiculturally
"if you shut someone down with class, it's more effective" - Udalango
dude seriously...
shut the fuck you….but no really shut up…I like vick , i like Konlb..I like the eagles in general…but YOU are hella fuckin annoying
formerly known as Northern Eagle
Kolb’s 26 and really hasn’t had a chance to show his stuff.
McNabb’s 34 and his skills were entering a noticeable decline.
That's great Bobby, but we don't have Dance Dance Revolution, so... you're dumb.
by alcatraz0109 on Sep 21, 2010 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Because he hasn’t been given a chance and flashed potental to be a good QB last year.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
that bothers me
Kolb comes in last year to relieve McNabb, and plays well enough that Reid was confident enough to trade Donny Mac…now Vick comes in to relieve Kolb, and he’s good enough to replace Kolb…
wonder what happens if Kafka comes in to replace Vick
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
bottom line
he’s got a tough job to do… he most definitely is getting pressured (after trading mcnabb) to win now. the “master plan”.
how do you say no to a guy like vick who was top 3 qb last week?
most of you bash mcnabb supporters for loving mcnabb
you would bash mcnabb and call yourselves eagles fans and say “if you love mcnabb go be a redskins fan. we like kolb cuz hes an eagle.” now you hate the decision?
be happy for vick, hypocrites.
I am happy for Vick
And I will support this team. But this is absurd.
im undecided
it stalls kolb’s growth.
but on the other hand its good for mccoy and deters opposing defenses from killing kolb. this o line is horrible.
i hope kolb is the quarterback of the future. but im not mad at the FO
haha.. i get bashed for supporting Mcnabb all the time.
it's not that i hate Kolb, i just think he SUCKS.
if
you feel both qbs are playing out of their mind
then why not start kolb?
I'M GONNA TRIP BALLS!!! -Frank Reynolds
Goin to the game tomorrow night cant wait
Gonna be an electric atmosphere
"Bills everywhere, trill everything, and Drake just stand for Do Right And Kill Everything..."
Vick is playing out of his mind right now...
And what happens when he isn’t?
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
I hate that idea
that you just flip flop between the guy that’s hot at the moment.
that’s not successful, and this franchise has never been run that way
This doesn’t sound like Reid
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
Stop dancing around it, Andy
Just say that Kolb blew up and demanded a trade.
At the end of the day:
E-A-G-L-E-S, EAGLES!
For the Love of the Game
Stockton to Malone- The perfect combination!!
"I think he just said, 'Oh my Gosh,' or whatever they say in Provo."- ESPN talking about QB. Max Hall after BYU defeated third ranked Oklahoma (2009).
MonSTARZ forever!
by ForTheLove on Sep 21, 2010 6:59 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
peoples asses
"Bills everywhere, trill everything, and Drake just stand for Do Right And Kill Everything..."
We better win the Super Bowl this year
‘cause that’s the only reason you’d make this move. I will still root for the Eagles but unless we win the Super Bowl this is a stupid, stupid, move. If we are doing this then why the hell did we trade McNabb?
Go Eagles!
stuck with an old qb and no successor?
"Bills everywhere, trill everything, and Drake just stand for Do Right And Kill Everything..."
Wrong
The Vikings knew a bit more of what they had with Jackson and it wasn’t much. They also knew that their team was really a QB away from making a legit SB run. This team isn’t close enough to making a legit SB run with or withouth Vick at QB.
Well just them taking basically a "one-time" shot at the SB
instead of getting a promising QB and developing and insane team. I was really surprised how far the Vikings went last year, but it looks like they aren’t even gunna come close this year. But I just think this is a step back. Kolb is our future, he should be playing with our young team
This is so retarded
I had a feeling the WR were gunna start rallying around Mike after last week. I bet that has a lot to do with it too
really?
DeSean had 250yds and 2 TDs with Kolb last year.
Celek had 16 catches, 208yds, and a TD with Kolb last year
There’s no reason to think that they won’t get their’s with Kolb under center
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
that’s what this makes no sense. Winning the SB seems so far-fetched that not sticking with “the future of the franchise” is inexplicable.
That's my point
I was hoping for a good year but really figured that there would be growing pains with Kolb and we were a couple of years away. We are very young and it makes so much sense to let Kolb grow with these guys. This move just smells of desperation, and it does not make sense. I really thought that we were a forward thinking organization, until now. The time to do something like this was a couple of years ago, when we had guys on there last few years of productivity, Runyon, Thomas, Dawkins, etc, etc. This does not make sense now.
Stupid.
Go Eagles!
“Can you win a super bowl this season with vick?”
“Absolutely”
Shakin my head
"Bills everywhere, trill everything, and Drake just stand for Do Right And Kill Everything..."
hahahaha
kolb will never lead a team to a SB. Too many are better and have a specific trait about them….kolb dont got it!
kolb will never lead a team to a SB. Too many are better and have a specific trait about them….kolb dont got it!
Sir, that’s irrational. You are making a statement based on a feeling that you have, and not on any raw or inside data you’ve collected. That makes you emotional, like my daughter when she’s deciding what color sweater to put on her Barbie
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
I don't
I just heard a lot of hype, and I want to see if he is the answer…
I don’t see how you can say conclusively either way, I don’t buy it when guys say he is, I can’t buy it when guys say he’s not…
We don’t know
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
A young QB is going to take time to grow
You know what destroys that? Benching him after 7 passes for a guy that played well against the Lions.
Starting either against JAX is a good choice… i’d LIKE to see KK out there but i’m okay with giving him some more time to get his shit together… on the PLUS SIDE- Vick is money, currently.
Stop fucking stressing.
by Ralf E Chubbs on Sep 21, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm guessing...
Kolb won’t be brought in to run the wild cat?
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Andy Reid either just gained a ton of credibility, or lost ALL of it.
Some may say that going back on his word so quickly might sow seeds of doubt in his team. He’s known for his loyalty, and the players, I’m sure, have come to trust that about him. Maybe know they feel like Reid’s feeling the pressure to win now and making some rash decisions – losing that trust with his players and his credibility along with it. Many fans will feel that way too.
On the other hand, many will commend Reid and standing up and making the tough decision. It’s not easy, after making such a declarative statement to the contrary, the suddenly reverse your field and go the other way. You know you’re gonna get flak for it – but in the end, you make the decision that needs to be made, and you gain a lot of credibility in the eyes of many.
Personally, I really do feel sorry for Kolb, but I can’t say I don’t see the logic in starting Vick. It was only one game, against a bad defense, yes, but he made a lot of good decisions out there, decisions he wouldn’t have made before he finally grew a pair.
Whether Reid ends up the hero or the goat… only time will tell.
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hell yeah
That's great Bobby, but we don't have Dance Dance Revolution, so... you're dumb.
by alcatraz0109 on Sep 21, 2010 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I will say this for Reid
He’s put his job on the line for this. If this doesn’t work out (and I don’t think it will), he shouldn’t still be the coach at noon the day after the last game of the season.
Am I reading to much into his comments about “I felt I needed to make the decision” and “they’ve seen how Michael played” as indication that the locker room was significantly pro-Vick?
Probably, but just as baseless as everything said about it tonight
an educated guess, yes the lockeroom spoke to reid
and he listens. he knows how to manage the lockeroom.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Sep 21, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
playing behind a shitty OLine can also ruin a young QB
ask David Carr
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
Jackpot for Vick
Does this mean Vick gets a contract extension?
If Vick messes up, does Kafka get a chance
by ThePaceMaker on Sep 21, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, after 2 games… geniuses here
bring that up in late December, when we know more, should we have given kolb 5 years after his first 2 starts?
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions
damn you
i was just going to post this…
still laughing—-
by Ralf E Chubbs on Sep 21, 2010 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions
guy got owned
"Bills everywhere, trill everything, and Drake just stand for Do Right And Kill Everything..."
If someone offers Kolb a starting QB position elsewhere
after the season, it wouldn’t surprise me if he hopped on that in a second.
I can't see
how Kolb wants anything to do with Eagles anymore
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
Yep.
There’s no going back from this. I can’t imagine there’s a financial apology big enough to make Kolb stay?
How would you sell that to the locker room and fans if you try to go back to Kolb either this year or next?
Andy Reid has completely tied himself to Vick. If Vick fails, Reid must go.
Agree
I don’t see how Reid could ever go back to Kolb now, how would Kolb control the locker room, and be a leader after this? I think Vick will be extended in the next couple weeks, and Kolb will be traded in the offseason.
"If it bleeds, we can kill it" -Dutch
"Men are clinging to football on a level we aren't even aware of. For centuries, we ruled everything, and now, in the last ten minutes, there are all these incursions by women. It's our Alamo."
-Tony Kornheiser
He won't have much value...the Eagles have tipped their hand that they think he's awful.
Maybe the Vikings would take him….they take all our castoffs. If Favre continues to suck they might even be desperate enough this year.
I agree
I think your right BrianS, but the Browns are looking, we might be able to get something for him, but yeah I think this did kill his trade value, if that’s what were going to do
"If it bleeds, we can kill it" -Dutch
"Men are clinging to football on a level we aren't even aware of. For centuries, we ruled everything, and now, in the last ten minutes, there are all these incursions by women. It's our Alamo."
-Tony Kornheiser
I am a huge Kolb fan, was never a McNabb fan, and not a Vick fan. I am not mad that this team has done a 180 and decided to go to Vick. Yes he did play out of his mind, and he did deserve this promotion no doubt about it. But Kolb did not deserve to be demoted. Kolb has been billed as the future, and now all of the sudden he isn’t? That is what upsets me the most.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
And that’s fine. I don’t agree with your assessment of Kolb but that doesn’t mean that you are wrong. But again, how does a team change an entire off seasons worth of planning and preparation after 10 passes? That is what gets me.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
it gets me too
I wasn’t the biggest Kolb supporter, but I wanted to see what the kid had…I was ready to give him a chance, and I just don’t feel like he got one
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
Yeah
I really don’t get the complete turnaround. I mean, give the kid as least one more game. If he sucks, its a real easy decision to go back to Vick. If he doesn’t, keep playing him.
McNabb- 1
Kolb- benched after 10 passes!
Vick- 1
So, Eagles basically went from McNabb to Vick…
That is freaking disgusting.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
2 ints in 2 games, he’s having a probowl year
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
i hate the hanson sisters brothers, lol
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Now if this in part due the bad Oline...like most of us think
why can’t he call quick routes for Kolb. Pick defense apart bit by bit. Sustain long drives to eat up the clock. Is he that obsessed with the DEEP flashy plays. Or is he or “they” so impatient that he/they want to see Kolb play like Rodgers or Brees right out the gate. They want results NOW. Then why trade Dmac. Dmac gave us results right away. This is not cut and dry.
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
Not saying that this is a Horrid move...if u want to "try" and win a "playoff game" this season
but Vick is like Dmac in his prime…inaccurate and inconsistent. But could run his butt off. Yet still didn’t net a SB. Sooo….! hmmm
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
This is ridiculous...
He should have let Kolb play against Jacksonville and evaluate after that
by FlyEagles15 on Sep 21, 2010 7:08 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
tru that
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
now we know y it was 1 year
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
besides the lockout
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
For a team that supposedly makes a bunch of savvy contracting moves, they have given out their share of stupid contracts of late.
They are a bunch of fucking idiots.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
If we dont win the SB this move will have people saying
For who? For what?
"Bills everywhere, trill everything, and Drake just stand for Do Right And Kill Everything..."
LOL
+1
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
Phillies were pretty bad up until 07 when it all came together
"Bills everywhere, trill everything, and Drake just stand for Do Right And Kill Everything..."
Because being above .500 since 2001 was is terrible, especially when they were close to the playoffs almost every year and have been fantastic since 2006.
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by Scott Kessler on Sep 21, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Eagles have been much more consistent for much longer
Primarily because of Donovan McNabb and a superlative defense.
Whoops.
A win-win for both players, Andy?
Really? How can you even pretend that this is a “win” for Kolb?
Fastest Offense ever assembled
Vick, D Jax, Maclin, and McCoy……. Oh Baby….. greatest show on turf part 2
someone find that clip from the dallas radio host after we drafted maclin (i believe, maybe djax)
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I am
still in shock. Quite frankly I don’t know how to react to the move. Yes Kevin Kolb may be the future but Vick is playing out of his mind. On the other hand, Vick won’t be here after this year unless he gets extended which would be just stupid as it would be stunting Kevin Kolb’s growth…don’t know what to say.
If I'm goin' to hell, you're coming with me...
I don't think Kolb is that great...
Not every QB that gets drafted in the first two rounds becomes a good starting QB…
Future?
I understand that Vick gives the Eagles the best chance to win now but I was looking forward to see Kolb and the rest of the young skill players progress and hopefully build something good for the long term.
I was looking forward to see Kolb and the rest of the young skill players progress and hopefully build something good for the long term
I’ve been indifferent when it came to Kolb, but this is what I have been looking forward to all off-season. Now the teams two starting QB’s are both set to have contracts expire at the end of this season. The team will essentially be forced to sign one of these two guys to big money or trade for a starter while drafting the future QB all over again. I really thought this would be a year where the young guys worked through the up’s and down’s of being somewhat inexperienced and work towards being a solid, cohesive group that grows together.
"i know talent .. the eagles do not " – JIBTA
I am just a fucking Idiot but can someone explain why Kolb is better than Vick. Does everybody forget the Eagles had to beat him to go to the only the second superbowl they have been to. He was a awsome QB he had bad games but so had McNabb, Cunningham, and Jaws. Com on Kolb is a CAREER BACK-UP. They management knows it and I bet money the team feels the same way. OH and to FlyEagles 15 now you can take Kolbs balls off your chin and his dick out your mouth or are you going to wait til the swelling goes down …… Stupid FAGGOT. I wasn’t the only person to think Kolb sucks Believe what media tells you film don’t lie Kolb is GARBAGE.
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
Thats not the point.
You worked 3 years to get your QB ready, you traded the face of the franchise to let him play, you gave him a 12m contract (so they DONT think he is a backup, dont you know our front office well enough by now?), and you change your mind cause of one win against Detroit?
This is ridiculous.
by FireTheWalrus on Sep 21, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Vick has won more games yes it was a while ago but some were playoff games so I think that has something to do with it the only game I have ever seen Kolb look good was to a lions like Chiefs team I won’t by that game as him being ready. He was wishful thinking now they Know the have to start over after Vick. I don’t like the guy but he is better.
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
by Christopher A on Sep 21, 2010 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
talk about wating 12 million I would have had them give that to McNabb. he was better than Kolb and bet Kolb knows it in his heart.
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
by Christopher A on Sep 21, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, but I’m going to have to disagree.
The FO definitely did not change their mind because of the Detroit game. The Packers game played a role too, and I’m sure that in practice Vick looked good. Reid just said the stuff he said about Vick being better than in practice/preseason to save as much face as he can for keeping Kolb as a starter. That’s my take.
I do think it’s stupid to start Kolb because you’ve been grooming him. If he doesn’t give you the best chance, and your only reason is because you’ve been grooming him, then you need to rethink the reasons for why Kolb should be a starter.
I have to say though, Vick’s proven. Kolb isn’t.
I Love Vick, and I Like Kolb.
If Andy would come out and blame the O-line as the reason why Vick starts
I would have the upmost respect for him
He would also be hanged probably...
if he said that. He won’t just come outright and say that because that would mean that he f***ed up in the offseason by not making any changes to the O-Line other than Reggie Wells. He knew that was a weakness and yet he didn’t target anyone in the draft. It’s more like he won’t be able to say it.
If I'm goin' to hell, you're coming with me...
Bye Kevin.
I am actually sorry to say this because of my extreme hatred for Vick.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
I know.
On the one hand, I was right about Kolb. But that victory is ringing real fucking hollow right about now.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
This is a joke
Vick was garbage when he started in the preseason. They were so impressed by Vick playing well against the Packers (who gameplanned against Kolb), and the Lions (who just plain suck)? They potentially ruined Kolb’s career. You let young players work through struggles (especially more than 10 passes). What’s going to go through Kolb’s head when Vick goes back to how he actually plays and Kolb has to start? Even next year. It’ll feel like a million eyes are on every snap he takes.
Potentially ruined his career?
They fucking “Bad Newz Kenneled” his career. They raped his career and then electrocuted it with this move.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
I Didn't
I mean, we all make mistakes. He made his mistakes too. You definitely wouldn’t like it if some really embarassing mistakes of yours were paraded and you were always known for that. For example, what if you wet the bed when you were a kid and you were always known as bedwetter? Just because you have hatred for Vick doesn’t mean that you should insult him in such a way. No one calls Kolb a monster for hunting, they just say it lightly.
I Love Vick, and I Like Kolb.
sure, but they’re mistakes nonetheless. i’m just saying that because you’re not a public person, your mistakes aren’t broadcasted across the whole world, but imagine if you were vick and people walked up to you and called you dog killer and ron mexico? How would you explain that you changed.
I Love Vick, and I Like Kolb.
I was wondering why Reid was sticking with Kolb.
For the Eagles, I honestly think this is the move that gets them the most wins this year, especially after the promise he showed against the Packers and Lions.
I didn't believe it last August, but it turns out that love survives.
Mount Washington conquered July 5, 2010! State high point count: 3/50
by Vermont Cubs Fan on Sep 21, 2010 7:14 PM EDT reply actions
Philip Rivers for Eli Manning
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
my bad
What is Philip Rivers for Eli Manning
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Eli wouldnt play for them they pretty much had to
"Bills everywhere, trill everything, and Drake just stand for Do Right And Kill Everything..."
not the chargers, the giants
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions
ah I see what you mean I misread it
"Bills everywhere, trill everything, and Drake just stand for Do Right And Kill Everything..."
For who was that a bad trade?
The Chargers got four important pieces to their team in the trade.
The Giants won a Superbowl with Eli.
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"College is only 4 years, but the Eagles are for life." - Ironhank
by Scott Kessler on Sep 21, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
the Giants could have won that game with Chris Leaf Jamarcus Russell Tim Couch
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
&
Moss to the patriots for a 5th rounder
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Here come the mcnabb supporters out of the woodwork
"Bills everywhere, trill everything, and Drake just stand for Do Right And Kill Everything..."
This has no bearing on whether or not that McNabb trade ends up working out in our favor
That's great Bobby, but we don't have Dance Dance Revolution, so... you're dumb.
by alcatraz0109 on Sep 21, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
my vote is for Andrew Luck
"Bills everywhere, trill everything, and Drake just stand for Do Right And Kill Everything..."
thankfully your vote doesn’t count
They call me The Professor.
by Whodie126 on Sep 21, 2010 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
EUREKA !
Don’t you just love it. I know the Micheal Vick Haters Club are about to hang up, but this is our best chance of winning now. The new M.Vick 2 is the truth, like it or not. This not the 2005 model. Sorry haters….(lol) }:-)
This is not a superbowl team. Not even with Payton Manning.
by FireTheWalrus on Sep 21, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Spawn of Sean Peyton and Peyton Manning
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
there's a third Manning?
"Bills everywhere, trill everything, and Drake just stand for Do Right And Kill Everything..."
&
he was the best of the litter
Cooper Manning, WR
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m shocked that Djax never heard of him … we might be talking about him more than the other too if not for the spinal stenosis
They call me The Professor.
Ive heard of him
I was just being an ass because he isnt in the NFL, I know about his condition and everything
"Bills everywhere, trill everything, and Drake just stand for Do Right And Kill Everything..."
Well now Winston Justice just became our most valuable Olineman … weird that I’m not terrified with that
They call me The Professor.
That makes one of us.
Let the Kafka era begin. Who couldn’t be excited about that?
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
It’s just strange to think that Winston Justice being your most valuable lineman is actually a good thing.
They call me The Professor.
it doesn’t matter the most valuable lineman is the one that blocks the blindside … Vick is a lefty therefore the RT is the most important lineman. The reason most if not all of the best pass rushers play the right side is because the majority of QBs are right handed.
They call me The Professor.
what about austin howard
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
o yeah
andy’s ideology changed to win now, develop later
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Sep 21, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
if that bald motherfucker
said fascinating one more time, i would have thrown my laptop out the window
I'M GONNA TRIP BALLS!!! -Frank Reynolds
A haiku
Bad choice fatman.
The man who rapes dogs
Is a bad QB.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
by EvilBanner on Sep 21, 2010 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Kevin, we’ll miss you
As Vick throws many more picks
Than you ever could.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
The real quesrion is...
How on earth is Sapadro going to spin this one?
God, I can’t wait.
Veritas Liberabit Te
If we want to win now...
Then why the fuck haven’t we traded for Boldin?
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
by EvilBanner on Sep 21, 2010 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
why do you think we should STILL trade for boldin
by allmaddenking on Sep 21, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't.
See every post from last year. Then you’ll get it.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
or drafted Knowshon?
"Bills everywhere, trill everything, and Drake just stand for Do Right And Kill Everything..."
I concur
That's great Bobby, but we don't have Dance Dance Revolution, so... you're dumb.
by alcatraz0109 on Sep 21, 2010 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Welcome aboard Team Serbia.
EvilBanner and the Malcontents will be here all week before our tour or Europe and the Orient. You can open for us.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
I’m certainly not rooting for his demise, but wouldn’t it be really sad and ironic if Vick gets knocked out one of the times he decides to take another hit?
I know this gives us a better chance to win and I know I’m in the distinct minority that hates this move, but I’ve lost what little respect I had for Andy Reid.
by BrianS on Sep 21, 2010 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I hate this move.
And you know how I feel about Kolb. This makes NO sense. A team that gives up 32 to Detroit is NOT a “win now” squad.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
Right.
If he sucks, he sucks. But let him suck and possibly grow out of it. What the fuck does this do other than ensure he leaves?
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
Dude, I hoped you listened to Andy’s PC. It was quite possibly the dumbest conference I heard from a head coach.
I saw it.
It looked as if Roseman and Lurie were sitting behind him with knives in his fat fucking backfat ready to stab him if he said the wrong thing.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
Plus it would make much more sense for Reid to at least let Kolb start against Jacksonville, just to get more basis for this type of move. Not like Kolb is so shitty that he’d make us lose against Jax. And if he is, Vick could come in and save the day once it’s apparent that Kolb is a human wasteland.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Totally agree
32 and 400+ yards
"... You play to win the game. Hello? You play to win the game. You don't play it to just play it. That's the great thing about sports: you play to win..."
detroit isnt inept on offense
they have too many weapons for even shaun hill to do damage.
by Igglesfan13 on Sep 22, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
I hate this move as well.
Are we really the minority?
"He wasn't an astronaut, he was a tv comedian! And he was just using space travel as a metaphor for beating his wife!"
Really?
Sorry if I’m way off, but I was just on PE.com quickly and most of the comments are positive.
"He wasn't an astronaut, he was a tv comedian! And he was just using space travel as a metaphor for beating his wife!"
You would rather put a potential franchise QB behind that POS o-line?
Reid is watching out for Kolb…and potentially trying to get a better trade value out of him.
Get in my way and I will either run you over or EAT you!
EXACTLY MY REASONING. Andy won’t say that but I have a feeling
eff you we winning anyway
A.I. IS BACKKKKKKK
If that's the reason
Then just say it. Maybe it lights a fire under the OL. But don’t pretend you’re doing it because of 6 quarters of football against (a) a defense that hadn’t prepared for Vick and (b) the Lions.
i actually thought that as soon as i posted.
so i retract my previous statement
The only way to find out if he’s a potential franchise QB is to PLAY HIM.
And they better extend Vick quick because why would Kolb resign here if he thinks he can start somewhere?
Instead, Reid caved.
My sentiments exactly.
“The only way to find out if he’s a potential franchise QB is to PLAY HIM.”
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
I should feel happy.
I learned today that I was right about Kevin Kolb AND Andy Reid. But I don’t. I feel as raped and abused as one of the badnewzkennels dogs. I feel like I was the one getting herpes from Ron Mexico. I feel sad and bitter. Andy Reid, you are a true asshole.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
I’m just kind of blindly hoping that Reid is just bullshitting everyone in order to unveil some massive 180 revelation later on. Hey, he did it once, why not?
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Like what?
That he traded Vick for Adrian Peterson and Jared Allen?
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
Maybe he’s just punking us all. If so, he’s an absolute comedic genius and a horrible human being. More of the second than the first, but still.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Just when I thought I was going to have a nice relaxing night watching the Phils pummel the Braves…
Thanks Birds.
If everything I said about Vick/Kolb is wrong, I’ll be the happiest Eagles fan ever.
The best thing about Tim Tebow is his former roommate.
Agreed.
Look, if Andy’s right, and we win the Super Bowl? Then go Vick.
What I fear is that we’re sacrificing our future so that instead of going 7-9 or 8-8, we go 9-7 or 10-6 and either miss or lose early in the playoffs.
Honestly, and maybe I am the only one, I would be fine with a 5-11, 6-10 year where Kolb gets experience and then we land a top 15 pick, or better, we move up since as always we stockpiled picks, rather than playing Vick and going 9-7, or 10-6 and lose early in the playoffs.
5-8-10...the day the Purdue Boilermakers basketball team won the 2011 NCAA Championship!!
Isn't that what I said? :)
The only reason I can think of right now: Reid thinks his job is on the line this year. He’s willing to sacrifice this team’s future so we’ll have a good enough record so he can stick around another year.
I can't understand that reasoning
There’s no way his job was on the line the first year after trading McNabb. That’s what makes this decision so confusing. There’s no reason to start Vick.
I’m with EREX on this one.
Andy Reid actually used his noggin to make a decision
Who knew?
Very good for Eagles fans (myself very thoroughly included in the mix) – whether you want to believe it or not, Kevin Kolb is not, and will never be, the answer for this franchise. Sorry, wishful thinkers, but that’s all you are.
And even Andy sees through you.
What’s that say for Reid, then?
Remember, the guy who drafted Kolb and groomed him as their QB of the future?
by BrianS on Sep 21, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is the comment of the day.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
I agree with part of this.
“Kevin Kolb is not, and will never be, the answer for this franchise”—-see any of my posts comparing Kolb to Bobby Hoying to confirm. However, you don’t trade Donovan McNabb for Michael Vick. That’s fucking stupid.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
As Eaglesgrl5 said during the McKolb debates
I will support our team’s starting quarterback.
"Verde que te quiero verde..."
Το πράσινο είναι ζωή!
That's right, I bleed green multiculturally
"if you shut someone down with class, it's more effective" - Udalango
I’m suddenly getting annoyed thinking about all the time it took to edit the film of every pass Kolb threw last year.
Jimmy
Do you still have your Mike McMahon and Pat Ryan tapes? I’ll help you break them down and we can suffer together.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
Poor Jeff McLane with his 28-part piece on Kolb…
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20100904_Kevin_Kolb__Hometown_Hero.html
His futility beats yours.
At least yours was only one or two parts.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
I have already begun
I am going to break down some Sage Rosenfels tape for our friends at the Daily Norseman.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
Don't be like that.
With the way Favre is playing, he could get benched.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
I know.
But I wanted to feel Jimmy’s pain.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
Haha, I’m just looking at the Jeff McLane pieces. Seriously, that poor bastard went to Stephenville, TX, interviewed past coaches, friends, babysitters, Kolb’s mailman when he was 9, a homeless guy that Kolb gave a piece of bread to…
McLane must want to shoot himself right about now.
His life has meant nothing.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
Will this team do well with Vick? Sure, a lot of quarterbacks would. Vick may be a hybrid Quarterback that isn’t fit for, say, a shotgun formation team, but Andy’s West Coast-inspired offense is a good fit. Same goes for Kolb. I don’t really think that starting Vick in itself is a terrible idea, and I still expect us to win games. I support both QB’s.
With that said, I personally believe that there’s some misconception with this whole decision. Kolb is angry, sure, but this decision reminds me a lot about high school football: the coach chooses the player that is currently making progress or is simply the best player available. It’s a job to win, and Vick has shown that he has the tools to win currently and/or is the better QB in this situation. A lot of people may think this is an insult to Kolb, but I think this is more of a compliment to Vick. Kolb is Andy Reid’s guaranteed franchise quarterback of the future, who many scouts predict will have a great career. At this point, Reid believes that Vick is better than a future franchise quarterback. Whether you hate Kolb or not, Reid and the FO doesn’t. They think highly of him, even still. Think of what this means for Vick.
"Each guy in here has to look in the mirror and ask themselves: " - Brian Dawkins
If you're always in "win now" mode in the NFL
The likelihood is that you’ll never win.
See Dan Snyder to confirm.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
his future is "not slighted one bit."
Yet he is benched for the rest of the season.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
It's not "slighted one bit"
It’s been absolutely destroyed.
As much as I hated the McNabb trade...
…I could accept it if the QB that Reid drafted (Kolb) and said would be the successor was given a shot to succeed or fail on his merit. This, however, is an appalling decision.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
If there are any cooks in here...
You can appreciate the stupidity of Reid’s “allow the maturation process to continue.” This one time, I was making chicken breasts and I thought they would be more tender if I marinaded them for a week. But instead, they were spoiled, rank and maggoty.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
Evil Banner
Can you please stop commenting about all of Michael Vick’s wrongs? They have nothing to do with anything in this debate and are just an example of how angry you are. I know you’re respected here and I’m not, but it’s making the debate stupid and you look immature, which I find hard to believe. I’m requesting you.
I Love Vick, and I Like Kolb.
I am angry.
Why wouldn’t I be? I think he’s a bad person. And this influences how I see this decision. I think Kevin Kolb is a good person (a bad QB, but a good person). He’s the kind of guy that, if he were to become successful (and surmount almost historic odds), I could root for. Not so with Vick.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
Like, it’s fine to be angry, but if the reason you’re angry about this trade is that you can’t root for Vick, shouldn’t the rest of the players outweigh one player?
And just out of curiosity, if you know about Tony Washington, what exactly do you think about him. If he came to the Eagles would you still be able to root for them?
I Love Vick, and I Like Kolb.
I know you were asking EB, but as wrong as what Washington did, it was allegedly consensual.
And I know this is irrational, but a QB is the face of the team. Having a QB I don’t like vs. 1 guy on the OL I don’t like, that’s a pretty big difference to me.
Well, I don’t think QBs should be the face of the team. I guess it’s gonna be like that anyways, though. Oh well.
For example, I don’t like Matt Cassel. Though my reasons are different from EB’s hatred of Vick, I still like the Chiefs. Team should outweigh; you’re an Eagles fan, not an Eagles Quarterback fan.
It’s fine to hate Vick; you can’t convince the world. But alluding to his previous mistakes would be the same as if I had known secrets or bad things about you and spouted them all over.
I Love Vick, and I Like Kolb.
Another problem.
How can Kevin ever control the locker room after this?
He’s been totally shat on now. What makes you think he’d ever really play his heart out for us now?
Veritas Liberabit Te
Part of my reaction to this is that I think it is really shortsighted that they deviate from something they planned and set up over the course of three years on the base of one half of football.
If Kolb had started against the Jaguars and sucked, it would at least make a bit more sense, but that game was tailor-made for him.
And Reid had already said Kolb was the starter and Vick, to his credit, had said all the right things.
Secondly, though, and at the risk of starting a flame war, I still have trouble rooting for Michael Vick. I know he’s paid his debt to society and all…but I still have trouble “liking” him.
by BrianS on Sep 21, 2010 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
If it helps...
I’m in 100% agreement with you.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
Did you guys hear Merril's phone call on PE.com
He pretty much pinned the tail on the donkey about how Kolb is feeling right now.
The one bright spot.
I thought Eskin was going to either retire or have a stroke today.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
Hey Evil Banner
Is it you that keeps deleting my comments? I’m just trying to be nice, man.
I Love Vick, and I Like Kolb.
Click on your name.
They’re all there.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
whoa whoa whoa
HE has yet to knock my crown off on that pericular note….sayin EB is our poet is like sayin Vick is our starting……oh wait , shit.
formerly known as Northern Eagle
i don't know if you're kidding or not
but the only person who can delete posts and shit is JasonB…. to my knowledge at least
"Can I have my Kolb salad with extra.... bacon?"
Get it? cuz Kevin Kolb hunts pigs? and bacon comes from those?
My mind is blown
I have the same excited/nervous feeling I had when we first signed him
"Can I have my Kolb salad with extra.... bacon?"
Get it? cuz Kevin Kolb hunts pigs? and bacon comes from those?
I’m sure this has been mentioned before, but this can’t be based off of Kolb’s one half of play and Vick playing well in 1 1/2 games. This has to be the culmination of an entire training camp of Kolb not being able to make the throws in practice and preseason. Reid probably tried to overlook the fact that Kolb couldn’t do it for as long as possible, but eventually he couldn’t deny the fact that Kolb isn’t a Franchise Caliber quarterback and Vick still has 3-5 years left of top-level football left.
Fastest Offense Ever Assembled..... Vick, DJax, Maclin, McCoy....Greatest Show on Turf Part II
But we've seen Kevin excel in practice and Vick sucking in practice
Adam Shefter just said he sucks in practice
I’ll second that. Vick did not look good in practice. But then again, the way their practices are run, they’re not very conducive to Vick’s skill sets.
Blah
The only way that I would be anymore shocked than this is if we go 15-1, make it to the superbowl and win it. Never will happen, but imagine the FIELD DAY that the media would have…
If I'm goin' to hell, you're coming with me...
kolb just joined russel and quinn as te draft with no good qb-s. Because I’ll say right now that he never lays we after this.
The laws of alchemy dont justify murder........but the laws of murder justify being a cowboys fan :P
phone typing, sorry, it was lagging on my phone because of the mass amounts of comments. i was trying to say that I cant name any young QB that did well after getting benched after he was named the starter. I cant think that Kolb will come back after this, IMO.
The laws of alchemy dont justify murder........but the laws of murder justify being a cowboys fan :P
I hope that fat pig's kid off's him to score some dope...
This is complete bullshit…am I the only person who sees that we just essentially traded McNabb for Vick…I mean I tried my best to get onboard when they sent McNabb to a division rival to get the next era up and going…now fatty’s ended that era in favor of Michael fucking Vick???? FML
I see a lot of new comers here as I havent been on BGN in a while(sorry guys.. got a new job and moved to TN…Ive been mad busy)…for those of you who dont know me or my feelings towards Mike Vick feel free to search the word “Vick” on my profile and check my comments…before and after we acquired him.
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
I missed you too buddy
Im about to change my moniker to EvilAndy!
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Sep 21, 2010 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude.
Do it. As awesome as your name is, it would make a bold fucking statement.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
Whats FML?
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Sep 21, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
oh...hahaha...I knew that...lol I thought it was another blog...lmao!
"I want to maintain my flexibility."
-Andy Reid
by BroadStBullies on Sep 21, 2010 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Today...
The Eagles named MICHAEL FUCKING VICK as the starter…FML
GIVE KOLB A CHANCE! GIVE KOLB A CHANCE!
Can only admins see that?
Lucky.
That's great Bobby, but we don't have Dance Dance Revolution, so... you're dumb.
by alcatraz0109 on Sep 21, 2010 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions
well I feel silly
That's great Bobby, but we don't have Dance Dance Revolution, so... you're dumb.
by alcatraz0109 on Sep 21, 2010 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I love that the site has a Ghana country share of 0.01%.
by andyreidswaistline on Sep 21, 2010 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
ha no kidding
this is unbelievable news
"Can I have my Kolb salad with extra.... bacon?"
Get it? cuz Kevin Kolb hunts pigs? and bacon comes from those?
Mine says over 30,000 already for the day
"He wasn't an astronaut, he was a tv comedian! And he was just using space travel as a metaphor for beating his wife!"
Never mind
That’s page views
"He wasn't an astronaut, he was a tv comedian! And he was just using space travel as a metaphor for beating his wife!"
That’s page views. Less relevant. The unique site visits are what the advertisers typically care more about.
Does anyone from here ever call in PE.com to talk to Dave?
Whoever does should give a BGN shout out. That would be awesome
GIVE KOLB A CHANCE! GIVE KOLB A CHANCE!
The Eagles’ head of PR told me at camp that BGN is his favorite site that covers the Eagles. Not sure how many other people he said that to, but still…
Should have asked him if he knew what BGN stood for, that would let you know for sure, lol
"If it bleeds, we can kill it" -Dutch
"Men are clinging to football on a level we aren't even aware of. For centuries, we ruled everything, and now, in the last ten minutes, there are all these incursions by women. It's our Alamo."
-Tony Kornheiser
I had written a recap of the morning session, and in between practices, he came up to me to make small talk, asked who I wrote for, and I told him Bleeding Green Nation. He goes, “No way… Are you Jimmy K?” So I says yes, surprised. And he told me that PE.com had just linked to my recap literally 10 minutes ago. He knows BGN.
I was only making a joke, but that’s pretty cool that he knew all that
"If it bleeds, we can kill it" -Dutch
"Men are clinging to football on a level we aren't even aware of. For centuries, we ruled everything, and now, in the last ten minutes, there are all these incursions by women. It's our Alamo."
-Tony Kornheiser
Yeah, when he said, “Are you Jimmy K?” I was blown away.
Actually,on another day, I was standing with Bob_Q, and some Eagles blogger from PE.com came up to Bob with a microphone and they interviewed him about BGN.
No shit? Dude that would have been pretty cool too.
"If it bleeds, we can kill it" -Dutch
"Men are clinging to football on a level we aren't even aware of. For centuries, we ruled everything, and now, in the last ten minutes, there are all these incursions by women. It's our Alamo."
-Tony Kornheiser
Thats pretty awesome
BGN is bigger than I thought. I’m gunna call dave one day and give a shout out…if he doesnt hang up on me of course.
GIVE KOLB A CHANCE! GIVE KOLB A CHANCE!
Ask Dave who his favorite BGN blogger is
"If it bleeds, we can kill it" -Dutch
"Men are clinging to football on a level we aren't even aware of. For centuries, we ruled everything, and now, in the last ten minutes, there are all these incursions by women. It's our Alamo."
-Tony Kornheiser
No way CINTINFO, i think he’s second in replys to maybe only this one
"If it bleeds, we can kill it" -Dutch
"Men are clinging to football on a level we aren't even aware of. For centuries, we ruled everything, and now, in the last ten minutes, there are all these incursions by women. It's our Alamo."
-Tony Kornheiser
My two cents:
With this move, Andy Reid strikes me as reactionary and pretty weak-willed. This strikes me as really weird, considering he stuck with McNabb through all the years of really emotional fans booing McNabb. This just seems completely uncharacteristic of him.
I’m honestly still not quite sure what’s going on at this point, though. Anyone else agree with this assessment?
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
I agree (kind of)
It seems strange to me for Andy to change his mind like this. However, nothing really suprises me with him anymore.
"If it bleeds, we can kill it" -Dutch
"Men are clinging to football on a level we aren't even aware of. For centuries, we ruled everything, and now, in the last ten minutes, there are all these incursions by women. It's our Alamo."
-Tony Kornheiser
i think it was the brass sayin, hey – we’ll make more $ with vick grabbin headlines, put his (dog joke) ass in there until he blows it. and fatandy is gonna do what fatandy does. whatever the birds tell him to. he prob didn’t like it, but he doesn’t sign his own paycheck either.
by PHIGHTINPHILS on Sep 21, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't even think it's Andy
FO HAD to have a lot to say about the situation.
by LegendKnight22 on Sep 21, 2010 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions
See, that’s what I figured. But they haven’t really changed too much, either, have they? They didn’t force him to start Garcia over McNabb forever, why do it now?
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
They're sick of being that team that always goes to the playoffs
but never to the big one?
I don’t know what to think anymore. I’m done for tonight.
by LegendKnight22 on Sep 21, 2010 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
I highly doubt this was andy’s decision. Soooooo uncharacteristic
GIVE KOLB A CHANCE! GIVE KOLB A CHANCE!
As I said in a comment above, doesn’t it seem really uncharacteristic of the FO, too? I mean, they were there with him during the whole McNabb saga.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
That’s kind of why I’m so shocked, it always seemed they stuck with a decision for a while, this is a very quick change, and thats what shocks me, what next? we run more?
"If it bleeds, we can kill it" -Dutch
"Men are clinging to football on a level we aren't even aware of. For centuries, we ruled everything, and now, in the last ten minutes, there are all these incursions by women. It's our Alamo."
-Tony Kornheiser
What do you base that on, though? 7 non-concussed passes in a half of the game where Vick played just as much as he did and didn’t get anything going, either? I would expect a reaction of at least letting him start against Jacksonville. That way, you get a full game to evaluate him. If he proves that he’s the human wasteland that so many of you think he is, now you have proof to it and you have good reason to start Vick. And guess what? It’s fucking Jacksonville. We still win. If he turns out to be the franchise QB that Reid thought he was, good. Stick to the plan, he wins. Everybody wins!
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Take a look at the schedule, and take a look at the NFC East competitors
As weird as it may sound, we can’t afford to give one game. This is a brutal, brutal year, and we already have the only real patsy to be found out of the way.
The Kolb experiment is better suited for a year where we aren’t getting jammed up by the NFC North and, especially, the AFC South.
So we trade the best QB in franchise history to a division rival so we can make Michael Vick the starter? fucking stupid.
much of the rationale behind the McNabb trade was that we werent going to win a superbowl this year so lets get some value for him, allow Kolb an opportunity to grow and lets see if he can be the guy. But now Vick is the starter because he gives us the better chance to win? If the Eagles were that worried about winning this year they should have just kept McNabb, whos far better than Vick.
Now We have to wait another year or two to find out if Kolb is ‘the guy’. By then our offensive core may already be on the downside of their careers/playing in other cities. Nevermind what this does for Kolb’s confidence And I dont buy the whole O-line argument. This is the NFL, theres no way your offensive line is that bad that you can’t even start your ‘franchise’ quarterback.
I’ve always had Reids back, but this is the dumbest move i could have ever imagined.
Letsd go Phillies.
Disagree
I don’t see how they can keep Kolb after this season.
"If it bleeds, we can kill it" -Dutch
"Men are clinging to football on a level we aren't even aware of. For centuries, we ruled everything, and now, in the last ten minutes, there are all these incursions by women. It's our Alamo."
-Tony Kornheiser
Although
I fully support Vick and him starting, you do have a fully valid point in that our rationale has changed dramatically. My only possible explanation is that maybe the FO didn’t know he could get this good so fast, if ever.
I Love Vick, and I Like Kolb.
this good this fast? He played a half against a team that wasn’t prepared for him and he played a game against the Detroit fucking lions.
I’ve had the discussion of run first QB’s with people countless times…they can make an average team look good and they can win you some games…but your never going to win a superbowl with a quarterback who makes his best plays when things go wrong. Eventually your going to run into a defense that knows exactly how to stop it. Just like the Eagles did against Vick and the Falcons in the playoffs…twice.
and if this is concussion related then why cant Reid just say so? regardless of what hes told Kolb in private this is just fueling a media storm that will only mess with Kolb’s head.
This move makes Ruben Amaro’s decision to trade Cliff Lee for slop and Paul Holmgren’s decision to sign Jody Shelley and trade Simon Gagne for garbage look like strokes of genius
I've always been a Reid supporter but...
Fuck you, Andy. After Vick has two-three horrible games and you’re starting Kafka, you should be fired. Jesus. What a bitch move by the staff and a horrible thing to do to Kolb. 10 fucking passes? I know they were horrible. I know the O-line is bad, but sorry, I don’t see Kolb recovering from this.
Wow
Kolb named the starter and most of you were goingto be happy with a HIGH DRAFT pick next year. Name Vick the starter and the damned sky is falling. How many ropes are in your houses.
The reason why Vick is now the starter and will be the starter next year is that HE IS THE BETTER MAN..PERIOD.
SUCK IT HATERS!
I would love to blow up Texas Stadium... With team still in it
Hey there Tom, Paul, Eric
We know you guys love Jake Delhomme and all, but we heard you guys like this Kevin Kolb kid almost as much as we do. How’s about a 1st and a 3rd? Just for you guys.
Love, Andy and Howie
by birds'n'raiders on Sep 21, 2010 8:37 PM EDT reply actions
HIDE YOUR BEAGLE!!!!!
VICK’S AN EAGLE!!!!
I love it!
We went from 8-8 no playoffs, to Contending for a super bowl.
Vick is a superstar REBORN, GET THE FUCK OVER IT!!!!!!
Contending for a Super Bowl? How do you figure?
Our defense is playing pretty piss poor and our O Line is looking pretty average.
Vick plays one good game against the freaking Lions and you are ready to proclaim him the savior of the franchise that’ll win its first Super Bowl? Good luck.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
We got Gaithered last game
Once Bradley comes back in the fold, I’m sure the defense will be significantly better. Also, the talent on this team definitely warrants, at the very least, a playoff run. And once a team gets in the playoffs, anything can happen. Really.
YES
And can you go ahead and ban for the phrase ‘shut the fuck you’ too? Lol.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Just like I said.....
I’ve been calling for this move the whole time. I’ve always said Vick should be our starter, and that Kolb is no good…… oh wait I forgot you can see my previous posts
"If it bleeds, we can kill it" -Dutch
"Men are clinging to football on a level we aren't even aware of. For centuries, we ruled everything, and now, in the last ten minutes, there are all these incursions by women. It's our Alamo."
-Tony Kornheiser
Lol. Good one. I’ve seen like five people just suddenly take a full about face and go from supporting our old starter to saying they’ve always wanted Vick and the h***ers (lol I didn’t say it) need to get over it.
Seems they look to Andy for guidance.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh God....
Just had a bad thought…. this means Justice is bllocking the QB’s blindside again
"If it bleeds, we can kill it" -Dutch
"Men are clinging to football on a level we aren't even aware of. For centuries, we ruled everything, and now, in the last ten minutes, there are all these incursions by women. It's our Alamo."
-Tony Kornheiser
May God help us all.
On the bright side, maybe this means there’ll be no more QB controversy after a few weeks?
(Just kidding, no one get hurt, mmkay?)
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
michael vick is the future
I think many people here are forgetting how kolb looked in the preseason.-(like crap) The coaches may have realized that he truly doesn’t have what it takes to be in the nfl. we would have been forced to keep him as an average quarteback after the mcnabb trade, however due to vicks incredible play, we take the better quarterback. Don’t tell me vick isn’t the future. He’s only 30- and currently is the leagues most atheltic quarterback. He has the ability to throw the deep ball and considering age and ability he’ll give us at least a good 4 years- Plenty of time for our young core to win a superbowl..
Stupid assumption. Maybe you missed how Vick played the last 2 games that mattered in the REGULAR SEASON. You probably did.
eff you we winning anyway
A.I. IS BACKKKKKKK
Do you know why the Eagles made this decision?
because they wanted to steal attention from the Phillies! duh!
Who's Been Eatin' Hummus?
She passed wind, excused herself, and sponged off in the corner as I sat dazed and confused...
Coming from a Kolb Pessimist
This is a desperate decision….I have lost all respect for Andy Reid, he needs to go. I vehemently disagree with turning over to Kevin Kolb but once Andy made that decision, he should at least give the kid a chance to prove himself. This shows Andy is on a very short leash and he’s simply trying to save his job. As great as Micheal Vick as played, he’s no McNabb, plus he has the same deficiencies that some claim McNabb has (although I beg to differ from those claims). Andy has probably lost this team already…..You pay Kolb 12Million for pre-season and 2 qrts? I smell DESPERATION in the air. I had much respect for Andy Reid than this.
he had his chance
forgetting 4 preseason games, buddy..- and andy reid just got a 3 year extentions- his job is not in jepordy. * “As great as Micheal Vick as played, he’s no McNabb, plus he has the same deficiencies that some claim McNabb has” – umm, before vick spent some time in prision, he was the most dangerous football player in the nfl and one of the highest paid- not to mention, vick is 4 years younger than mcnabb
Sweet Jesus.
I desperately, desperately hope not. But that doesn’t seem too farfetched.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I just don’t get this. Unless Lurie completely pressured Reid into this, it seems like this puts Reid more on the hot seat, because I don’t see how this doesn’t put us back in “superbowl or bust” mode.
Vick would win more games this year than Kolb, I won’t argue with that. But I still don’t think they should abandon their rebuilding plan without giving Kolb more of a chance.
Kolb is done in Philly.
And it actually pains me to say that given the alternative.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
You always find a way to be pissed about the latest goings-on, don’t you? It’s pretty impressive.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
One thing no one is acknowledging
is that this will change our offense. Get used to seeing a lot more of Shady McCoy.
by birds'n'raiders on Sep 21, 2010 9:09 PM EDT reply actions
Now will He Admit the Obvious
He made the greatest mistake by Trading Donovan McNabb the greatest QB the TRI STATE has even seen
I said this at the time.
I guess this clears the way for Kolb to be traded to the Vikings. Right?
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
Yeah.
I’d do that deal in a heartbeat.
But seriously, a #1 or 2 2nd rounders I guess will have to do.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
No one.
We could have gotten that for him if we traded him instead of Donovan. But, thanks to Reid, he is Jeff Kemp 2.0
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
Well, he was always Jeff Kemp 2.0
It was just a matter of certain people in certain power positions realizing it. They did, but not in nearly enough time, and now us Eagles fans get to pay the price.
Huzzah!
NFL= No Fucking Leeway
I don’t see Reid as having much of a choice. I like Kolb, but Vick was Superman the last two weeks. Not that I would compare football to war, but if you had two platoon leaders and one was handpicked by the brass, but the other just single-handedly took out a sniper’s nest and dragged three wounded men back to safety, who would you follow into battle?
That’s what Andy faced in the locker room. I give him credit for having the balls to make the move. If it fails, he’s done.
It's "Kolb"ering time!
I think people are starting to blow his performances out of proportion. It’s gone from “excellent play” to “looking like he did in 04” to saying he put on the best performance of any QB, ever. Superman just seems a bit much to me. Sure, he was really good. He also got a lot of help from receivers catching balls that were low or behind them and from McCoy setting franchise records. He also got a lot of help from C.C. Brown being C.C. Brown.
Not saying the dude hasn’t played well, he definitely has. I just think it’s getting blown way out of proportion at this point.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 22, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Almost agree 100% If it fails, he goes back to Kolb and it is what it is.
Andy will be remembered for making the right move with Vick.
"Andy loses his locker room faster by starting Vick over a healthy Kolb than he ever will by starting Kolb." Quote JFein
Well J, the locker room said it wanted VICK!
by Lombardi and Broad on Sep 22, 2010 6:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Was shocked to hear this, but consider: last season, the Eagles arguably had 3 QB’s who could have been starters for another team (2 with years of experience, 1 groomed in the same system for a few years after a very productive college career and two pretty good starts). In the offseason, the Eagles jettison the oldest and most expensive QB. Now he’s got two pretty good (albeit still works in progress) options at QB. OL has some problems due to injuries…..one QB gets hurt. Other QB looks better than expected, has experience as a starter. Long term plan is probably not to sign both to lengthy contracts. FO and HC start to wonder if there is trade value for one of them, decide to use this season to figure out which one to keep and which one to trade. Eagles might flip flop QB’s all year long to see which is the best fit long-term.
He is prob worried about Vick in 2 weeks, he knew what Kolb could do up close
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Sep 21, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Just because Vick is the starter
Doesn’t mean Kolb won’t play. Just like vick was going to “compliment” (read: fuck up kolb’s rhythm) kolb, kolb will do the same this week.
let them battle it out each week, it makes the opposing defenses confused and adds a great element of surprise to our team.
Beat me to it.
Well played, sir. I was typing that out and then saw your post.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, and this is pure genius. Kolb in the wildcat and Vick staying in the pocket is getting us the Super Bowl.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
So, what happen when Vick has a bad game? And don’t BS me about Vick won’t have a bad game – he will. Every QB not named Peyton Manning has a bad game.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
Relax already!
He was losing the locker room and made the right move. Simple as that. Chill everybody! Daag!
I want a championship!
by Lombardi and Broad on Sep 21, 2010 10:07 PM EDT reply actions
I agree Vick was the better of the two and I am already on record calling Kolb a Bust....But
I still lost all respect for Andy Reid.
I've never seen Andy switch like that. Some players probably pulled him aside
and convinced him. Plus, several tape guys like Ray Didinger broke down the tape and discovered a new pocket QB named Mike Vick. We still need to strengthen the defense!
"Andy loses his locker room faster by starting Vick over a healthy Kolb than he ever will by starting Kolb." Quote JFein
Well J, the locker room said it wanted VICK!
by Lombardi and Broad on Sep 21, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
He alludes that he spoke to the locker room. Of course he is
"Andy loses his locker room faster by starting Vick over a healthy Kolb than he ever will by starting Kolb." Quote JFein
Well J, the locker room said it wanted VICK!
by Lombardi and Broad on Sep 21, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
not going to say they were going to jump off the bridge.
"Andy loses his locker room faster by starting Vick over a healthy Kolb than he ever will by starting Kolb." Quote JFein
Well J, the locker room said it wanted VICK!
by Lombardi and Broad on Sep 21, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno where you’re getting the allusion from, but he specifically said none of his players said anything about it to him.
But then again, Big Red doesn’t let the truth get in the way of a good press conference.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 21, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions
He said it in the PC
Vick won over the locker room, something Kolb obviously hadn’t done.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Some people just can't accept the truth.
When DeSean was told by Comcast Sportsnet, you could see his face explode with joy. Nobody is hating on Kevin Kolb. In fact, I think everyone knows Kolb is going to be a decent, QB – STARTING one day. But the insiders were extremely happy that offense was finally consistently moving. What Vick has done did not happen all preseason with Kolb. It wasn’t just the first half of Green Bay.
"Andy loses his locker room faster by starting Vick over a healthy Kolb than he ever will by starting Kolb." Quote JFein
Well J, the locker room said it wanted VICK!
by Lombardi and Broad on Sep 22, 2010 6:00 AM EDT up reply actions
But what about all those inside stories that the young players wanted Kolb to start?
They were happy to see McNabb get traded and see Kolb get his shot. That sounds like winning over the locker room to me. How did he lose it already? He was never even given a chance to prove himself.
Ask Shady
Who, according to ESPN, got a big smile whenever he talked about Vick after the past two games. As for the young players all being with Kolb, I think that was just Jackson, who doesn’t speak for all the players let alone the young players. As for Kolb proving himself, he has been on that team for over three seasons, he should at least have the respect of the #2’s by now. His teammates have watched him for years, if he hasn’t shown something to them yet, it will be hard to change opinions.
I like Kolb, I like his skill set, and hope he gets the chance to play again, but I don’t think he ever proved to his teammates, or us, that he deserved to be the unquestioned starter.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
by Topher Doll on Sep 22, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Well that was not the argument being made around these parts several months ago.
The argument was just the opposite. The argument was never that Vick was the one all the players loved, it was that Kolb had not only the trust of the #2s, but most of the #1s as well.
Maybe, I don't know what the players said then
But as of now, they seem excited about Vick. Reid, as well as myself, hopes Kolb will get better and become who we think he can become, but at this point, it’s unfair to tell your players that they will waste a year trying to develop a guy versus playing the guy who gives you a chance to win.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
What's the argument if Vick plays well, but the Eagles don't resign him?
If the team is ultimately Kolb’s, the Eagles won’t bring Vick back and they will start Kolb next year. Same argument one year later. Why let the good thing go to test out the unknown guy?
Hell, they already had no problem doing that. They knew they could win with McNabb but they traded him.
If we sign Jeff Garcia and we get either a stud, cover corner or a stud linebacker?
I’m good with that!
"Andy loses his locker room faster by starting Vick over a healthy Kolb than he ever will by starting Kolb." Quote JFein
Well J, the locker room said it wanted VICK!
by Lombardi and Broad on Sep 21, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
There are so many comments on this thread that it is freezing my computer just being here…
Someone please lock this thread!
lol
windows 95?
I'M GONNA TRIP BALLS!!! -Frank Reynolds
by Mapost1 on Sep 21, 2010 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ROTFLMAO!!!!
"Andy loses his locker room faster by starting Vick over a healthy Kolb than he ever will by starting Kolb." Quote JFein
Well J, the locker room said it wanted VICK!
by Lombardi and Broad on Sep 21, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
The Truth!
This helps Kolbs future out more than anything. If Kolb started the next game he would have the most pressure on him in the history of professional sports. Any bad decision or slight mistake he made, the eagles fans and probably all out football fans would have been SCREAMING FOR VICK.
Vick made amazing 3rd down plays to get long first downs after amazingly avoiding some “for sure” sacks. How was Kolb supposed to follow that up.
Kolb would have to have a perfect game while under the most pressure possible. Luckily it wouldn’t have been a home game..
The good thing for Kolb is that he still will get paid. And as soon as Vick doesn’t do GREAT, or fumbles, or throws a pick.. Kolb will be right there waiting.
I’m a vick fan more than a kolb fan and I honestly don’t believe that anyone should ever be handed a KEY TO THE TEAM. Especially with no proven record.
Lets face it. There was no guarantee that Kolb would turn into the next brett favre. In fact. There was almost NO CHANCE that kolb would be the next brett favre. I’ve never in my life saw a man ride the bench for 3 years and somehow get looked at as if he deserved the right to start no matter if he wins or loses.. I never head no BS in my life like that. ESPECIALLY for a NFL QB.. The most important position in the sport.
by phillyisback on Sep 21, 2010 11:29 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
An interesting perspective. The fact that he’d be playing against Jacksonville would pretty much alleviate that pressure, though, in my opinion. Doubt he’ll get as good a chance as that to get back the confidence of himself, his teammates, and his fans.
If you’re looking for a man who rode the bench for three years and then got the start no matter if he wins and loses, I’ve got an interesting case study: Aaron Rodgers. Precisely the same situation. First season with him, the Pack went 6-10. Now, they’re NFC favorites for the Super Bowl in most circles. Steve Young’s 49ers had a big dropoff in wins in his first year and didn’t make the playoffs, too. Not like he was a slouch in his first season, but he’s kind of along the same lines.
Just a quick point, no one really realistically expected Kolb to be ‘the next Brett Favre’, they just needed him to be a good rhythm QB that fits a West Coast Offense and can take advantage of all the playmakers around him.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 22, 2010 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Kolb is still on track to become one of those. But have you ever heard of Bobby Hoying?
Cliff Stoudt?
David Woodley?
Ever heard of either one? Guess not.
STOP ACTING LIKE KOLB’S SUCCESS IS A SURE THING. That is getting real sickening around here. He may make it, he may not. He has shown enough to earn a chance, but not quite yet.
"Andy loses his locker room faster by starting Vick over a healthy Kolb than he ever will by starting Kolb." Quote JFein
Well J, the locker room said it wanted VICK!
by Lombardi and Broad on Sep 22, 2010 6:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm not.
You obviously aren’t reading. I was saying that phillyisback made a factually untrue statement. I provided two positive examples of the three year bench riding situation. There are negative ones too. I fully admit that.
I do not know which kind of example Kolb will become. Neither do you. You seem to agree. Why are you yelling at me?
Agree 1,000,000%% REC!
"Andy loses his locker room faster by starting Vick over a healthy Kolb than he ever will by starting Kolb." Quote JFein
Well J, the locker room said it wanted VICK!
by Lombardi and Broad on Sep 22, 2010 6:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m sick of hearing that theory!
What makes people believe think that Kolb will automatically turn into an Aaron Rodgers or Steve Young? Thats called having a diamond in the ruff. You people make it seem as though Kolb is DEFINITELY going to be a great steve young superbowl bound QB after he develops.
The big question is? What would happen if plans went as planned and Kolb started all season and didn’t make the playoffs.. And for the next 4 years.. DIDN’T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS. What would happen if Kolb turned out to be a complete BUM after wasting 3 seasons! then what?
The eagles don’t have to be a superbowl bound team. 99% of superbowl bound teams don’t win the superbowl anyway. The Giants beat the undefeated Pats.
Once you make the playoffs.. All it takes is a good game to move forward. And every team in the NFL should be trying to make the playoffs. No team completely bums a season and doesn’t care about winning games.. It’s sad that I actually read comments on this site where people were willing to have consecutive losing seasons in order to “SEE IF” Kolb could be good..
Umm.
It’s not a theory about Kolb’s ability. It’s a direct negation of a comment by you. You said the following:
I’ve never in my life saw a man ride the bench for 3 years and somehow get looked at as if he deserved the right to start no matter if he wins or loses.. I never head no BS in my life like that. ESPECIALLY for a NFL QB
This is exactly what happened with both of those quarterbacks. (In Young’s case it was longer than 3 years.) That’s why their names were brought up.
So are you saying that you are basing your theory on the fact that since Steve Young (a HOF’er) developed into a great QB that Kevin Kolb will do the same? lmao! REALLY?
Yea that makes perfect sense. Steve Young did it.. So why can’t Kevin Kolb.. ROFLMFAO!!!
In that case.. Since Michael Jordan was cut from his high school basketball team and ended up being the greatest player to ever play. We mind as well just throw random college walk on players in the NBA. Throw a season or 2 in the trash.. Just to see if the guy can develop into one of the greatest players ever because JORDAN DID IT..
What are you people smoking on? How do you all somehow already know that Kolb will be like Steve Young? How do you know?
by phillyisback on Sep 22, 2010 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Agree!
"Andy loses his locker room faster by starting Vick over a healthy Kolb than he ever will by starting Kolb." Quote JFein
Well J, the locker room said it wanted VICK!
by Lombardi and Broad on Sep 22, 2010 6:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Nobody knows that he was.
You said no one has ever rode the bench for three years and then started regardless of his wins and losses the first year.
We brought up how that has happened before.
No promises of anything, just saying that your statement was wrong.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 22, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions
THIS
I’m tired of people saying, “OMG u so stoopid, saying Kolb will be da next Steeve Young or aaron rogers just cause he sat for 3 years.” WE AREN’T SAYING THAT! We are saying that just because Kolb is sitting now doesn’t mean he’s done for. We are pointing out that quarterbacks HAVE become good after sitting on the bench for a few years at the start of their careers. We aren’t promising anything, we are just saying that all hope for Kolb is not lost. Extreme examples like the Jordan one phillyisback just used are not good arguments because they are one-shot examples, not repeated proof like Rodgers and Young are.
Are you dense?
I’m not saying anything about Kolb’s possible abilities!!! Read! You said something that was untrue. Two people pointed out that you were factually wrong. That’s all I said. The point is that teams have sat QBs for 3 years or more and then handed them the reigns outright. In these two specific cases, it worked out. I don’t know if it will work in our case. All I know is that I’d like to find out if it will work out well.
Whats sad is that there are teams out there that would do anything to have Vick. There are fans out there who are begging to have Vick.
Meanwhile, Vick is playing great for the eagles and half the fans would rather lose games with Kolb than win games with Vick.
I’ve never saw a QB play great and the fans demand an unproven QB to start anyway.
People wan’t Kolb to get a chance more than they wan’t the eagles to win a game.
Vick plays GREAT. but instead of hoping he continues to play great and win. People still would rather lose with Kolb.
and even worse – !!! People would rather go 2-14 with Kolb than make the playoffs with Vick
No, we'd rather see what we have in Kolb before it's too late to maximize the situation.
If Kolb isn’t great, we need to know now before we invest our future in him. If Vick starts, we can’t possibly know just what Kolb can do or how good he can be. That means it gets put off til next year. If Vick is gone and Kolb sucks next year, what then? Draft another QB to groom while the talents of our young team go wasted? All for a shot at the playoffs with a QB who has made a career out of being overrated because he can run real fast.
It’s not like Vick has ever proven himself in the playoffs either. McNabb got run out of town for failing in the post-season, but last time I checked a 9-7 playoff record with 5 NFC Championship appearances and one Super Bowl appearance is better than a 2-3 playoff record with one NFC Champ appearance and zero Super Bowl appearances. Where is all this optimism for Vick’s ability to lead us in the playoffs coming from?
No! You just don't like Vick!
((Draft another QB to groom while the talents of our young team go wasted? All for a shot at the playoffs with a QB who has made a career out of being overrated because he can run real fast. ))
-Grooming Kolb for a season or 2 will waste the talent of our young team anyway
-it’s Kolb and not the team that needs to develop
-You make it seem as though a shot at the playoffs isn’t a big deal
-Vick being overrated is your opinion.. you have a right to feel that way.. however. Kevin Kolb being the next Steve Young is absolutely boarder line retarded to even think..
If Kolb played the way Vick did.. I would be on these boards giving Kolb props. If Kafka played like Vick did.. Hell. I would be saying START KAFKA. shit.. If David Akers got in at QB and lit it up like Vick did, I would wan’t Akers to be the starting QB..
But I bet my last dollar that if Vick played as terrible as Kolb did for 2 quarters.. There is NO WAY YOU WOULDN’T BASH VICKS PERFORMANCE. because you don’t like Vick..
I figured it all out! You guys who want kolb to start are looking for the great white hope instead of the best chance to win. thats racist.. if kolb plays good.. GIVE ME KOLB. but Kolb Stunk it up.. Rodgers and Young were first round draft picks.
by phillyisback on Sep 22, 2010 3:31 AM EDT up reply actions
First of all, Kolb is already groomed.
Do you know how to read? Or do you purposefully misread so that you can make points that don’t have anything to do with the conversation at hand? I never said anything about grooming Kolb.
Kolb is already groomed. Now it’s time to see what he can do. You can’t know if Kolb is any good or not. He hasn’t had the chance to play enough to know how good he is. Unless he plays, we cannot know how good he can be. It is literally impossible. As in not possible in any way.
I have no opinion of Kolb. I don’t think he is the next Steve Young. I only think that possibility exists. Just as he could be Ryan Leaf. Neither you nor I can honestly say what Kolb will become because we haven’t seen enough of him to know. Fact.
I was saying that if we play Vick all year and then he signs on to another team, we will play Kolb next year. If Kolb is terrible, we will be stuck with him. We won’t have Vick to fall back on. We will then have to draft a new QB. That QB will then need to be groomed the way Kolb already was. That will take some time. One, two, three years. In that time we will have wasted the talents of good, young players.
A shot at the playoffs is a big deal, but so is a consistent shot at a Super Bowl. This team is built for future Super Bowl contention. I don’t want to miss the playoffs ever. Ever. But. BUT. If you give me a choice between three early round playoff exits OR missing the playoffs one year only to return to the Super Bowl within the next two, I will choose the Super Bowl one.
I do not believe Vick can get us to a Super Bowl. He made a career out of being dynamic, winning and getting to the playoffs. Then he shit the bed. I believe he will do that again.
Fuck you and your race-baiting. Read my history. I was pulling for McNabb as our QB 100%. I didn’t want to start the Kolb era yet because I thought McNabb gave us the best chance to win the Super Bowl right now. But the team went a different direction and now the situation has changed. The QB situation is unbalanced. Kolb is signed on long term. Vick will probably be gone next year. Starting Vick signals a belief in a Super Bowl victory. Otherwise, the move does not make sense. I personally do not trust Vick the way I trusted McNabb. I do not trust this defense yet. Therefore, I do not believe we will, or can, win the Super Bowl this year. That plays into the reason I do not want Vick starting.
If we win a Super Bowl with Vick I will be ecstatic. If we do not, it will have been a waste.
You didn’t figure anything out. You jumped to a race argument when it has nothing to do with anything. You know who else I think is destined to be overrated in the NFL? Tim Tebow. He’s as lilly white as they come and I wouldn’t want him anywhere near my Eagles.
NO!
"Andy loses his locker room faster by starting Vick over a healthy Kolb than he ever will by starting Kolb." Quote JFein
Well J, the locker room said it wanted VICK!
by Lombardi and Broad on Sep 22, 2010 6:09 AM EDT up reply actions
No to what exactly?
Are you disagreeing with the undisputed fact that McNabb has outperformed Vick in the playoffs? Or do you disagree with maximizing Kolb’s situation?
Last time I checked McNabb still lost the only Super Bowl he's been to.
What exactly have you seen that makes you want to tough it out with Kolb? Seriously, I’m curious to know NOLA? Was it his 1 win versus Kansas City last year that gave you all this hope? I mean that was impressive and all but what was the Chiefs record again last year?
Brennan Huff: I have a belly full of white dog crap in me, and now you lay this shit on me?
I haven't seen anything yet!!
Holy fuck! That’s the point!
I want to see what Kolb is capable of. I want to know if he is the next Aaron Rodgers or the next Bobby Hoying before it’s too late. Watching him hold a clip-board isn’t seeing his potential. He needs experience. To get experience he needs to play.
Hypothetical: If Vick leaves after this year and Kolb ends up being terrible next year, what do the Eagles do at QB?
And Vick has done what exactly as compared to McNabb?
You cite Kolb’s performance against the Chiefs as being unimpressive because it was the Chiefs. Ok, fair enough. I actually made the same argument myself last year, but don’t let that interfere with your narrative.
How about Vick? You’re impressed because he beat the Lions I take it? How is that different exactly?
Or is it the fact that Vick has a history of being exciting and dynamic? What about his history of being inaccurate and under-performing when his running ability is shut down? You have to take both histories together. Until Vick proves he has truly improved (as in, does it several more times and against actually good teams), I will continue to believe he is overrated. I hope he proves me wrong.
"And Vick has done what exactly as compared to McNabb? "
Vick was in the NFC Championship game his 3rd year a s a starter. What was Kolb doing his 3rd year? That’s right sitting behind a proven winner. Oh by the way wehn Vick was drafted he beat out his competition in the off season to WIN the starting job.
I would love to blow up Texas Stadium... With team still in it
And he promptly got his ass spanked in that game.
Then he never even got close again.
And you say that Vick beat out his competition. Great. Going off preseason and training camp performances Kolb was light years ahead of Vick in terms of deserving the starting job. So I don’t see what the point is.
oh sure Kolb threw some nice spiral passes in training camp, big deal! atleast we know what Vick can do from the getgo especially now with him being back to pretty much 100%. i don’t know about you but i would definately take a guy thats carried his team and brung them 1 game away from a superbowl appearance instead of a guy who’s been rotting on the bench for years and apparently hasn’t learned anything yet.
it's not that i hate Kolb, i just think he SUCKS.
We don't know if Kolb hasn't learned anything yet.
He was never given the chance to show that. It is impossible to know how he will play. Vick can throw some nice spirals from the get go. Great. Now let’s see him consistently throw them to our receivers and not into double coverage or nowhere near anybody. We should know in a few weeks if Vick is worth the love he is getting.
By the way, I would actually prefer the guy that brought his team to the Super Bowl and gotten them close 4 other times. But that guy got traded in the spring.
i totally and 100% agree with you. i hated the idea of trading Mcnabb, still do. Maybe Kolb has learned something but so far from what we’ve seen (preseason / 1st game ) it wasn’t looking like he did. Vick on the other hand has come in and proven to us that he can WIN and he is just about back to 100%.
it's not that i hate Kolb, i just think he SUCKS.
thank god
philadelphia get ready for the vick experience
by phillyeaglesfan on Sep 22, 2010 1:38 AM EDT reply actions
fuck kolb dudes about to get a contract
by phillyeaglesfan on Sep 22, 2010 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions
True!
"Andy loses his locker room faster by starting Vick over a healthy Kolb than he ever will by starting Kolb." Quote JFein
Well J, the locker room said it wanted VICK!
by Lombardi and Broad on Sep 22, 2010 6:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Interesting Fact!
“Shaun Hill” the backup on the Lions put up the same kind of numbers Kolb did. Does that make him the next Troy Aikman? or Steve Young? like you asswhips somehow believe that Kolb is on his way to becoming!
True
"Andy loses his locker room faster by starting Vick over a healthy Kolb than he ever will by starting Kolb." Quote JFein
Well J, the locker room said it wanted VICK!
by Lombardi and Broad on Sep 22, 2010 6:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I know we can make it to the playoffs with Vick.. but…..
LETS GO 2-16 TO SEE IF KOLB CAN BE LIKE JOE MONTANA IN 5 YEARS!
That makes perfect sense..
You are destroying the Vick haters, which probably are the McNabb haters also.
Just a hunch.
"Andy loses his locker room faster by starting Vick over a healthy Kolb than he ever will by starting Kolb." Quote JFein
Well J, the locker room said it wanted VICK!
by Lombardi and Broad on Sep 22, 2010 6:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Nope.
I wanted McNabb over Kolb this year. But I don’t want Vick.
They are fundamentally different players, no matter their similarities. Vick used his athletic ability to create big, highlights plays. McNabb learned to use his athleticism to create bigger, smarter plays. McNabb is 10x the passer Vick historically has been. He is also more accurate and makes better decisions. Maybe Vick has truly turned into the complete package and has ceased to be overrated. But he has a lot of on-field history to overcome before I believe it. McNabb I believe can win. It’s why I wanted to stay on and why the Redskins seriously worry me this year in the division.
Sounds like a great plan, when can we get started?
Winning now is stupid, I want to wait around for 4-5 years so Kolb can develop goddammit!!
Brennan Huff: I have a belly full of white dog crap in me, and now you lay this shit on me?
Ha. I didn’t even notice that.
R.I.P. JJ (7/28/09)
by Carolina Iggle on Sep 22, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
glad to see the comments trending more sensible
but remember this a site that two days ago where the thread writer was all behind the reid decision to put vick back on the bench. the kolb project has deep roots in these parts me thinks.
by andyfrombrooklyn on Sep 22, 2010 8:51 AM EDT reply actions
Yes it does have deep roots.
It is no secret. There is no “you thinks” about it. It’s a fact.
It makes the most sense for the team’s long term viability based on the offseason moves and the contract situations.
The blog commentariat has no responsibility to be bias-free. I would argue bias is what makes many blogs great because it exposes the truth to readers. You find a blog where you feel you fit in. You can’t do that without knowing the bias.
The blog was very much divided on McNabb-Kolb though. There was no clear bias then and the blog was in disarray for a while.
At the end of the day...
We will all be rooting for Vick and the Eagles.
Why you mad?
by The One Who Wears The Crown on Sep 22, 2010 9:35 AM EDT reply actions
i like these stats for my starting qb through 6 quarters
g 2 qb105.5 at37 com58 pr63.8 yd459 ydpg229.5 ya7.9 td3 int 0 ra18 yd140 ydpg70.0 avg7.8
by phillyeaglesfan on Sep 22, 2010 2:35 PM EDT reply actions
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