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Michael Vick Gets The Start For Eagles Against Jets

Let's hope that's the last time I write that this season... The Eagles will host the Jets tomorrow night in their yearly final meaningless preseason game and Michael Vick will be your starter. Andy Reid said this week that Vick and the backups would play their first half while rookie Mike Kafka and the third stringers play the second half.

For Vick, it's his last chance to show something before the season begins. Through three preseason games, his QB rating sits at 33.7. He's thrown three picks and no TDs. He has, however, rushed for a score.

The preseason actually started off fairly well for Michael Vick. He did have some turnovers, but in the first game we were all mostly impressed with his athleticism (he ran for a TD) and that fantastic bomb to Riley Cooper. It seemed like Vick was on his way back. Problem was, things never seemed to get better. In the following game, Vick went 1 for 5 and threw two picks. His offensive line was laughably bad in that game, but 1 for 5 with two turnovers in one quarter is what it is. He played only sparingly against the Chiefs.

That brings us to Thursday. Quite possibly Vick's last shot to show himself off to the rest of the league. Sure, he'll get in on certain packages this year, but people are going to want to see him run an offense and make routine throws. He'll be a free agent next year and he's basically said plainly that he'll be looking for a starting job. Nothing he's done this preseason will have convinced another team he's ready for that role once again. So what are your expectations for Vick tonight? Does he show any kind of improvement?

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I don't care what Vick does

As long as he reliably converts short yardage for us in the regular season.

If Kolb gets hurt, we’re totally fucked anyway. Hell, Kolb might stink this season anyway.

Vick’s not going to be here past this season. At this point he’s just a weapon. As long as he’s an effective one against the Cowboys, I don’t care how he plays when starting against the Jets.

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by DSmith215 on Sep 1, 2010 6:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Scored free tickets

box seats from chickies and petes, in some contest, so ill be there watching the backups suck it up woooo

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by ayydamn on Sep 1, 2010 8:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Far fetched, but a theory

Is Vick auditioning for the Cardinals starting Job with this last preseason game? The Cards are looking to trade Linhart this week- (according to Mike and Mike) and Derrick Anderson isn’t exactly a stud.
Maybe we could get a DB, OL or a decent pick….. I’ve done no research on what they would have to offer, just throwing this up for discussion.
Be gentle with me on this one fellas, just a theory

Andy's always been a big believer in, "I don't care who you have, we're still going to be better than you"

by MeanGreen5 on Sep 1, 2010 8:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Huh.

I don’t know. It’s not a bad thought.

I don’t know anything about the Cards’ offense; I don’t know if Vick would be a fit.

If I were a coach, though, I’d rather have Vick as my QB than Leinart or Anderson.

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by DSmith215 on Sep 1, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

right?

Thats what I figure, sure he stunk it up in the last game but he could make a case for himself against the Jets. He’s shown he still has an arm and great mobility. Definatly opens up their offense to a few schemes.
With Warner and Boldin gone and Larry Fitz hurt they have lost alot of thier flashyness and will most likey resort to Beney Wells and could use the added threat of a mobil QB
Also I would like more depth at Oline (they have 14), TE (they have 4) or our secondary (They have 12 DB’s) and draft picks are always nice.

Andy's always been a big believer in, "I don't care who you have, we're still going to be better than you"

by MeanGreen5 on Sep 1, 2010 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt it. We will need another QB if we trade Vick.

by 999 on Sep 1, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt it.

I mean, you can’t rule it out since the Cards are looking to move Leinart, but Vick hasn’t shown anything yet that would put him above of either Leinart or Anderson as a starter. His best years are behind him and it’s a what have you done for me recently league. If he tears it up against the Jets maybe the Eagles get a call, but I don’t think he fits the Cardinals at all anyway. They have plenty weapons. They could use a game-managing QB much more than an athletic playmaker. What good is Fitzgerald if the QB can’t throw it even remotely accurately?

by NOLACuse on Sep 1, 2010 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right now I think he will be coming back here next year at a reduced salary since I don’t see him starting anywhere at the moment.

by The Legend on Sep 1, 2010 10:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Would it really be so bad?
Michael Vick Gets The Start For Eagles Against Jets

Let’s hope that’s the last time I write that this season…


The Eagles don’t play the Jets in the regular season. I don’t think it would be so terrible if the season ended with Vick starting the Super Bowl.

by Eric T. on Sep 1, 2010 11:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Interesting

The blockquote went to the wrong place. headscratch

by Eric T. on Sep 1, 2010 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

"It is what it is" might be Bill Belichick's favorite saying.

For all the crap we give Wil Wheaton, he can still tackle better than Asante Samuel...
The various schools of the Big Ten should let Ohio State and Michigan know in no uncertain terms that dissent will NOT be tolerated.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 1, 2010 11:20 AM EDT reply actions  

“THEY ARE WHO WE SAID THEY WERE!”

Andy's always been a big believer in, "I don't care who you have, we're still going to be better than you"

by MeanGreen5 on Sep 1, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would not be surprised if he shows some positive signs tonight. He knows he is auditioning for the league, he has some reps under his belt and he will be able to get into a groove.

by JoshuaR on Sep 1, 2010 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Dear, Andyreidswaistline

Would it be possible to commission you to do a photoshop job for a “Know when to say when to Michael Vick” poster. Like the old anti drunk driving adds…… I’m imagining Vicks face pasted to somebody pulled over in a car w/ AR’s face pasted to the cop leaning in the drivers side window and with MV’s composite stat line as an Eagle at the bottom! :) hehehehe, I’ve been thinking about this one for a while now and I think it’s about time to see if you or anyone else out there w/ any photoshop skill can pull the trigger on this one. I can’t wait to be shed of the “Michael Vick Experiment”.

And yes, our season is freaking over is Kolb goes down. No depth at QB, or RB = possible nightmare scenerio for the Eagles.

Loooooook here brotha'.....who you jivein' with that Cosmic Debris!!!???

by OkieEagle on Sep 1, 2010 11:27 AM EDT reply actions  

I would not be surprised if he shows some positive signs tonight. He knows he is auditioning for the league, he has some reps under his belt and he will be able to get into a groove.

I however, would not be suprised to see him go 0-6 on his first 3 drives and take himself out of the game w/ a fake injury……Vick has been nothing but a waste of time, energy, money, and a roster spot for somebody that can actually contribute to the team.

Loooooook here brotha'.....who you jivein' with that Cosmic Debris!!!???

by OkieEagle on Sep 1, 2010 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Holy crap! Major blockquote fail there!

Loooooook here brotha'.....who you jivein' with that Cosmic Debris!!!???

by OkieEagle on Sep 1, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wowwwwwwww.

Good thing you don’t own the team, huh? You sound like a real big M.Vick fan.(lmao) ):-)

by greenbeef69 on Sep 1, 2010 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha! Ya, probly a good thing I don’t own the team, I’d still have Dawkins starting for us, would have kept Westbrook as a backup, and would never have signed Vick. Dude is a bust! A cheap bust (money wise), but a bust none the less. The dude can’t read defenses (i’m not sure he ever could), he makes terrible decissions with the ball when he’s under pressure, using him in the offense at all only negates any rythm the offense might have at the time, and as far as I can tell is entirely useless as a contributor to this team. The “Vick Experiment” was doomed to fail from the start anyway. That wildcat offense crap only works if that’s how you run your offense at least 70% of the time….ie the Dolphins…..what Andy and Marty have done by just tossing Vick in the game seemingly at random almost negates any chance at the effectivness of his plays before he even hits the field. Bringing him on the team has been nothing but poorly planned, poorly executed waste of time.

And in all honesty here the only thing that Andy, Marty, and the entire FO is guilty of here is believing in this guy to much for too long.

Loooooook here brotha'.....who you jivein' with that Cosmic Debris!!!???

by OkieEagle on Sep 2, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it is out of the realm of possibilities, that if Vick shows well, we trade him to the Cards. I don’t think we would take back Leinhart, however I would not be suprised to see this trade.

by piercit on Sep 1, 2010 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

it doesnt have to be QB for QB

No way would we take Leinart for what they pay him

Andy's always been a big believer in, "I don't care who you have, we're still going to be better than you"

by MeanGreen5 on Sep 1, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd rather see Kafka with the backups

Eff Vick, put Kafka in there. I want to see what he can do.

by mvict on Sep 1, 2010 8:14 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

You are right. I've seen enough of both to use Kafka like we used Kolb last year.

Keep Vick as a play maker. This guy will always be a hybrid QB. He reminds me of Kordell Stewart. Kafka should be the #2 if you are looking for the next QB after Kolb. We know what Vick is not and what he is and I’m not mad at him. But Kafka can be something special. If Kolb goes down, I’m putting Kafka in.

I want a championship!

by Lombardi and Broad on Sep 2, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would much prefer Vick to start

in an emergency situation. Kafka is a prospect, but he’s not ready to be handed the reins.

If we needed a starter for 1 or 2 games, AJ Feeley style, Vick could make it interesting.

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by D3Keith on Sep 3, 2010 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

i bet vick will surprise you tonight. at least 2tds in 1st half

for the offense.

having watched all three games, i’m not sure how you guys can be so high on kolb and so negative on what vick has done. the cincy game was horrible. but it was also abysmal for the 1st unit and the line play particularly stunk. vick had 2 INTs that game, but one was when he was hit while throwing by a bull rush up the middle. still counts on the stat line, but that kind of stuff happens.

vick’s net contribution was at least equivalent to kolb’s in the jax game, although ball security (fumbles and the forced INT on a busted play) took off some of the sheen.

and against KC, vick really didn’t play much and kolb was awful.

here’s the thing. throughout the first three preseason games, kolb has been forcing the skinny post and almost completely ignoring the safety over the top. he’s had multiple throws in each game thus far which should have been picked off. i’m not liking how that bodes for the season.

should be an interesting season.

by poetx on Sep 2, 2010 6:43 PM EDT reply actions  

just upping this b/c kolb performed vs. GB *exactly* like he did

in the preseason.

and what was disturbing to me in watching him through preseason is that the errors he was making are among the things that should be coachable and correctable, so i’d have expected to see them diminish throughout preseason.

he does not have the strongest arm. not necessarily a huge liabilty in a WCO, YAC-driven offense. (see: garcia) but it is a concern when he’s constantly throwing into double and triple coverage.

poor decision-making is a trait you usually see with the canon-armed prospects. (cutler. favre). because throughout their careers, up until they get to the nfl, (and for ones with elite arm strength, even after they are in the league) they get away with forcing the ball into tight spaces. so they are cocky, and rely on their arm too much instead of their reads.

in kolb’s case (again, preseason through first half of GB) that doesn’t seem to be the point. he’s just locking onto receivers and throwing to a particular guy regardless of coverage. like i pointed out in the case of the post routes, its like he’s completely unaware that there is over the top safety help.

he’s had quite a few dropped INTs. with more reps, and if this habit remains unchanged, his TD/INT ratio is not going to be very good.

andy should have given him more reps in preseason. i didn’t see enough progress to merit resting him in the finale like some proven vet.

by poetx on Sep 14, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

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