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Top Five Disappointments From Eagles Training Camp

Yesterday we looked at the top five winners from the Eagles past month at Lehigh. Today, we look at the disappointments.

Mike Bell - The Eagles signed him as a restricted free agent from the Saints to be LeSean McCoy's backup, but he really never got on the field at Lehigh. It may just be bad luck that he hasn't been healthy, but for a new guy on the team to never really be part of practice isn't encouraging.  He'll still make the team and if he gets healthy by the 3rd preseason game then his missing so much time in camp might not be such a big deal ... but for now he's got to be considered a disappointment.

Ricky Sapp - Everyone got excited about what a steal they thought Sapp was when they got him in the fifth round, but so so far he's been pretty much anonymous. That said, it's not at all uncommon for rookie DEs to struggle early on and the fact that Sapp hasn't distinguished him yet doesn't mean he never will ... but the fact is that he certainly doesn't seem like a "steal" after this year's camp.

Cornelius Ingram - Another guy who has struggled with injuries a bit, but the problem is that he's been struggling with injuries for the last three years. He's a really good guy and all reports are that he's worked very hard to get himself back healthy, but if he can't get on the field and contribute then the team won't keep him around. The fact that rookie Clay Harbor had such a strong camp made Lehigh look even worse for Ingram this year.

Charles Scott - Another guy who some people saw as a "steal" in the 7th round but never really looked like it. It would have been one thing if he just struggled catching the ball, but Scott didn't even look that great running it. For a guy that's supposed to be a big, bruiser I saw Kurt Coleman absolutely stone him on the goal line in one drill. At the very least a guy Scott's size should be able to run through a safety on the goal line. Plus, Scott was basically moved to fullback partway through camp. It doesn't seem like he's got a great shot to make the 53 man roster. All that said, playing as a full back he did make a great block on the Martell Mallet TD run in the first preseason game.

Darryl Tapp - When the Eagles traded for him in the offseason, he was seen as a guy that could possibly push for a starting job on the left side but at least provide depth as a DE and DT on passing downs. However, he really hasn't distinguished himself at camp. Juqua Parker is the start at LDE with Brandon Graham nipping at his heels and Trent Cole rarely comes out of the game at RDE. Plus, as Jordan Ranaan points out, Tapp even seems to have lost his job as the main passing down DT to one of our training camp winners, Trevor Laws.

Who were your disappointments from Lehigh this year?

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1. Nick Cole- He had the starting Center postion in his grasp, but instead looked as if he didn’t even practice the position in the offseason. Then he got injured and if McGlynn plays capable over these next couple pre season games, i do believe that is your starter until Jackson comes back.

2. Moise Fokou- Another person who had the Strong Side LB spot ready for him to assume that role and has seem to lost out to Akeem Jordan. he doesn’t even seem like he would be the first man off the bench in relief and now they are trying to see if he can be a DE.

3. Clint Ingram- Could of been special and added a new threat to our offense, possibly having us run more 2 TE sets, but instead dealt with injuries yet again. Seeems to have slipped behind Rucker on the depth chart.

4. Joselio Hanson- It was only one pre season game but he seems more like the player late last year then the player early last year. Had a legitimate shot at nabbing the RCB spot, but lost out to a guy coming off a serious neck injury.

5. Ken Parrish- Had the opportunity to solidify our inconsistent punter spot but instead has already been cut from the team. I don’t think it was Sav Rocca having a great camp as much as Parrish not having a noticable camp at all.

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by Talon Talent on Aug 20, 2010 6:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Clint Ingram?

Haha. And I doubt the Eagles are trying to convert Fokou to full time DE. They just want to give him some reps to see if he can rush the passer effectively, and play a joker role.

by Team Serbia on Aug 20, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh wow. I was all types of wrong huh? lol. Cornelius Ingram and Clay Harbor. Nice catch fellas.
As far as Fokou, I agree that he won’t be a full time DE, but it doesn’t even look like he will be a part time LB either. He really fell off in my opinion and them trying him at DE seems more like a desperation move of “we want to keep you but you have to have value somewhere.” It doesn’t look good for him IMO.

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

"There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." Bruce Lee

"This fucking game is over!" Chuck Bednarik

"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" Mike Tyson

by Talon Talent on Aug 21, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Regarding Tapp:

I actually caught the first half of a Seahawks preseason game on NFLN, and Chris Clemons was absolutely tearing it up, which I found sort of comical.

Agreed on the Tapp and Sapp boys… If you’re a DE and you’ve been completely silent… Not good.

Can’t say I disagree with any of the others… Nailed the winners and losers.

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on Aug 20, 2010 7:20 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I agree

I think you nailed the list of disappointments here. Those are probably the biggest 5 names that I had hope for but haven’t shown much.

Very sad on Tapp, he’s a nice guy (actually responds to me on twitter, on both occasions I’ve @’d him… evil eyes looking at you Celek). I feel he’ll at least stay for the season, and I hope he gets the anti-Na Brown and makes noise when it counts.

by Sparki on Aug 20, 2010 8:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think clemons is an underrated player who was a nice edge rusher while here

i now regrett the trade, i’d rather have clemons than tapp right now

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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Aug 20, 2010 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clemons over Tapp?

No way. Way to early to start saying Tapp isn’t going to live up to his reputation.

by Team Serbia on Aug 20, 2010 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

People go nuts over a few good plays in the pre-season. Give Tapp a chance before you torpedo his Iggles career over meaningless snaps

by DLawrence55 on Aug 20, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s Jason Babin, isn’t Justin Babin some teenaged pop singer? lol

by AZ Eagle on Aug 21, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tapp wil be alright and make the roster at RDE back-up. He could save wear and tear on T Cole so trent is better at the end of the year. Uh Rucker is already cut. I think Ingrim goes IR as does Sapp. Cole will probaby start at center. I thnk if macho can get on the field Hanson will be the suprise cut. Fokou is probably fooked.

by piercit on Aug 20, 2010 8:13 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Tapp will make the roster too.

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by JasonB on Aug 20, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Harris can get his hammy straight by week 1, Hanson’s gone

by DLawrence55 on Aug 20, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ingram hasn’t played in 2 years and was coming off 2 major injuries. I wouldn’t call him a disappointment by any stretch. Just a guy who couldn’t overcome alot of obstacles.

Cole should be on this list. Entered camp as the starting C. Will likely exit as the backup C/G. For a guy who supposedly worked alot this offseason, it certainly didn’t show in training camp.

Fokou also belongs. As much as people complained about Gocong, he also has the ‘low awareness’ problem. Even though he is faster, just isn’t in the right place at the right time more often that not. Can’t start at LB in the NFL if that is the case. He also supposedly got alot bigger/stronger this offseason but really showed up to camp with just a bit bigger.

Macho Harris (a guy who might just get cut even though it is really due to injury), Baskett, DTO, and Chaney also could belong on this list.

For all of the talk about the Eagles having a ‘great camp,’ I take it with a more nuanced approach. The important thing is that they didn’t have any really serious injuries this year and that Allen & Graham look like they are going to make an impact on defense which is what this team desperately needs to have a decent defense.

by MG77 on Aug 20, 2010 9:00 AM EDT reply actions  

are you excited or disappointed that Ingram didn’t overcome his obstacles?

I personally expected great things from Ingram despite his injuries.

by Clyde Simmons on Aug 20, 2010 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

even afterwards?

After 2 acls and 2 yearas out of football no one should ever expect much from someone IMO

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Aug 20, 2010 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ingram...

Its kinda funny, when we drafted him last year I was so high on him that I figured he would be starting by the middle of last season. Granted, this was before his ACL injury and Brent Celek’s breakout season. I’m not ready to call him a bust yet, but this year will tell us a lot.

by captainmike011 on Aug 20, 2010 10:07 AM EDT reply actions  

WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

Isn’t Charles Scott supposed to be the next Marion Barber? Wasn’t he supposed to dethrone Buckley and dispel the all pro Weaver?

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Aug 20, 2010 10:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Best case scenarios. Instead he performed exactly like a 6th round pick. On a personal level he disappointed but according to where he was drafted, ehhh.

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

"There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." Bruce Lee

"This fucking game is over!" Chuck Bednarik

"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" Mike Tyson

by Talon Talent on Aug 21, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

In all seriousness

Tapp has to be the biggest disappointment

All the smart people knew that Ingram had a huge chance of not contributing much.. Sorry but the kid hasn’t played in 2 years and is coming off major surgeries. Not in lne to be the next Gonzo.. As far as Scott, us smarties also knew he was a gamble and at best he would get 10 carries this season behind McCoy Bell and Weaver. Did anyone expect someone who at best was going to get 10 carries to light it up?

Sapp — Same thing, he’s switching positions..One thats very tough technique wise if you never really played it before… and he was a late round pick..

Now for Tapp…This is a guy who’s been in the league a few years has had a tremendous amount of QB pressures and knockdowns..>was regarded as Seattle’s best young players…

and to show up and disappear… tapp takes the cake

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by Joe_D on Aug 20, 2010 10:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Sapp isn’t switching positions. They’ve had him at DE in this camp.

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by JasonB on Aug 20, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yea…I was expecting big things from Tapp too. I still am though. He was top 5 last year in QB hits with 13 or 14. With Cole on the other side those hits should turn into sacks.

by Route36 on Aug 20, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ill tell you what....

out of 53 + guys we could be disappointed in……and we all pretty much pick the same 4-5?? and half of them are because of injuries? Id say thats a pretty dawn great …..There are a lot more guys that impressed and proved critics wrong if you ask me….Now let’s see that progress into the regular season…..It looks good, we have to bve pleased up to this point…no doubt about it

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by BWestFactor on Aug 20, 2010 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I just think that some of the guys the Eagles cut may get a chance to come back

at different times through the year. I see us having trouble against tough, physical teams and good QB’s. We have an abundance of this on the schedule. Just may be a good year to take our licks and learn. I hate that too! I love a winner like the next, but I like to be honest about it.

I'm on board with the Eagles rebuilding plan.
I don't expect a winning season.
I don't expect a playoff appearance.
I do expect to see the best players emerge and improve week by week.
I do expect that this team at the end of the year shows that it can knock out teams trying to make the playoffs.
WE ARE REBUILDING

by Lombardi and Broad on Aug 22, 2010 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

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