Top Five Winners From Eagles Training Camp
by JasonB on Aug 19, 2010 12:21 PM EDT
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PrintThe Eagles closed camp at Lehigh yesterday and I thought we could spend some time on the winners and losers from the past month. BTW, I'm cribbing this idea a bit from Moving The Chains, who posted their winners and losers from camp yesterday. First, the winners.
Riley Cooper - Your odds on favorite for the Na Brown Award winner is an obvious choice for the winners' list. The rookie WR from Florida had a great camp, seemingly making a notable play every day. With starters DeSean Jackson & Jeremy Maclin missing some time with various nicks throughout camp, Cooper got chances galore. He took snaps with the first and second team while looking completely at home doing it. Cooper passed an NFL veteran like Hank Baskett and camp vets like Jordan Norwood on the depth chart. So far, he looks like a steal in the fifth round. Tommy Lawlor dedicated a whole column to Cooper today at SB Nation Philly.
Kurt Coleman - Speaking of rookies making an impact, the young safety from Ohio has done that. He's opened eyes at Lehigh and in the first preseason game with his physical play and absorption of the play book. Between he and fellow rookie Nate Allen, a position that was barren last year now looks stocked with young talent.
Trevor Laws - Could he the Winston Justice of 2010? Laws drafted the same year as DeSean Jackson(ahead of him if you can believe that) but his career has hardly followed the same trajectory as Jackson. In two years he's failed to mane any impact. Last year, the Eagles picked up undrafted free agent Antonio Dixon in midseason and he passed Laws on the depth chart. From that point on it seemed like Laws would have a battle to make the team this year. However, we kept hearing this offseason about how Laws had really dedicated himself and worked hard to build strength... It appears that was true as Laws has been one of the most active lineman at Lehigh continually getting himself into the offensive backfield and making plays. It'll be interesting to see if he keeps it up in the preseason.
Jason Avant - Avant came off his best season as a pro, so the fact he had a good camp isn't a big surprise... but just how good he was had to be. Not only was he the best WR at Lehigh, you could make the argument that Avant was the best offensive player in camp. He was dominant in one on one drills and the fact that he didn't drop a single pass in live drills has become part of Lehigh lore. He's my MVP of training camp.
Stewart Bradley - The best description for Bradley's camp was a sigh of relief. We knew how important he was to the defense this coming year. We knew he could play well if he was healthy... But we didn't know if he would be healthy coming off knee surgery. Turns out, he was. Bradley had a great camp, he moved around flawlessly, and gave Eagles fans a lot of hope for the defense in 2010.
Is there anyone I missed? Who are your winners from camp?
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I’d have Austin Howard as a winner. He greatly improved his stock and made a name for himself in training camp and the preseason game.
by JLDawk on Aug 19, 2010 12:25 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
yeah, especially during the Jacksonville game
If I remember correctly, he had a pancake on each of Vick’s long runs (definitely the TD and I believe so on his 20-yarder).
yep, exactly he’s my number 1 winner from camp based on where he started (Undrafted FA)
Though if Jamal Jackson can get back to his probowl caliber form he might be up there as well
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by sports00fan00 on Aug 19, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I second that notion
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RIP JJ
by sports00fan00 on Aug 19, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
I saw some other Eagles writer did a “Top 5 Eagles we can’t lose” piece. Hmmm…
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
Yup... good call. Found it.
Terrible list, too. I mean… Celek? Number 2? He’s a great player and all, but 2? No.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
I saw a bleacher report article that said that Eagles safety position was “cursed” after Dawkins left because Antoine Harris was put on IR. Yes, Antoine Harris.
I also saw one on Philly.com that said “Jeff Owens Will Be Dominate For The Philadelphia Eagles”
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Austin Howard should win Na Brown
We had 13 draft picks and he’s waking on the roster (which means Dunlaps walking off) Bonus. Last LT cost us a 1st 4th and a 6th. He cost us a phone call.
I thought the Na Brown Award was two parts:
1) Dominate in training camp
2) Disappear in the regular season
Cooper is likely to get some playing time, at least in the red zone. If all goes well, Coleman will only appear on special teams and we won’t hear about Howard at all. They seem like better candidates.
by Tracer Bullet on Aug 19, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Common misconception… You don’t have to disappear in the regular season. You just need to be an unheralded player who surprises in camp.
The problem for me with Howard is that he really didn’t get buzz until the preseason game.
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I asked this same question about a month ago
I’d think a true Na Brown winner has to have busted his nut in the preseason, and had nothing left over when the games counted, otherwise anyone with a surprising camp could win. IMO it’s the link from “no hopes” to “raised hopes” to “crushed hopes” that is the essence of a true Na Brown recipient.
But if Unheralded/Great Preseason/Shitty Regular Season is the standard, we can’t possiby vote for the NABRA (patent pending) winner now because we don’t know whether the guy will suck or not.
Yea
Thought Na Brown award went to player doing great in camp, creating a lot of local news buzz.. then he goes quiet when the season starts. If they actually make noise in the season, then they get a real award.
We can’t know whether the guy will disappear in the season though.
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Now, pretty much everyone who has won the Na Brown award has ended up doing nothing in the season but that’s not the standard. We don’t know how they’ll perform in the regular season.
Hank Baskett won it his rookie year and was decent that year. Lorenzo Booker won it, he did nothing.
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I think we really need to finalize the requirements for this prestigious award
I like the idea of awarding it to a player who comes in completely unheralded, plays like a super star in training camp, makes the team, and promptly does nothing in the regular season. It would perfectly reflect the spirit of the man whose name graces the award. Granted, you’d have to wait for the end of the season to name the winner, but that’s when most awards are presented.
As it says on the Wikipedia entry for Na Brown below Career highlights and awards:
No notable achievements.
It just seems to make sense.
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by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Aug 19, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I thought that was the standard for the Na Brown award.
That was Na Browns legacy.
In Kolb we trust
For Years, Na Brown was a Practice Monster.
But he brought nothing to the season. He flopped during the season, there were years were we expected SOOO Much from Na Brown. But got an squat. So I wouldn’t say he surprised us. He just was a special practice player, and a sucky gameday guy.
Thats how I would define Na Browns legacy.
In Kolb we trust
Completely Agree
Sorry JasonB, but I also was under the assumption that the Na Brown award went to the unheralded Training Camp All-Star who just never shows up when season comes around. This is why I hope Cooper never achieves the coveted Na Brown Award. I thought that was the whole point of naming it Na Brown, because there is high comedy in an award for “Guy who gets your hopes up, but never materializes”.
Then again, it was probably JasonB who thought up the Na Brown Award, so who am I to argue.
Last LT cost us a 1st 4th and a 6th. He cost us a phone call.
Definately a huge win
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by sports00fan00 on Aug 19, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Austin Howard and Kevin Kolb.
Not because Kolb did anything that wowed anyone but more so because he did not do anything to make us all sit here in fear and wonder out loud if the team made the wrong decision in trading McNabb. Kolb survived his first camp as a starter and the entire team seems unified behind him. That’s pretty important.
Looking forward to the Kevin Kolb era.
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Ernie Sims
Would make my list. I thought he had a great camp, def not number 1 but easily 4 or 5. Excited to seem him for and entire half Friday night.
by Bono Hit My Car on Aug 19, 2010 12:54 PM EDT reply actions
Agreed
Although Sims is considered a vet, he really showed himself at training camp. He is a tackling fool and I love that. I would object to getting a sims jersey
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The best part about sims is that he’s only 25. 25! If we can sign him long term to at least a 4-year extension we’ll be set.
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by immynimmy on Aug 19, 2010 1:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Again, How about my boy Keenan
i remember when we drafted him almost everyone was saying it was a bad pick and a big reach. I said he would be good and brings speed to the defense. And idk why but coleman kinda in a tiny way reminds me of dawk
Keenan Clayton, Austin Howard, and Trever Lindley all should get honorable mention. Especially Clayton, who has been all over the place with the #2 LB’s and ST
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I think that Clayton has faded a bit after a strong start to camp. Although he did get himself a sack against the Jags.
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I love
Ernie Sims and Jason Avant as camp winners. Even though Ernie is pissing some folks off, we have not had that kind of attitude at LB since Trot left here (the first and second times, not the third so much).
Austin Howard – Beast
Ernie Sims – Dude’s gonna kill someone
Kevin Kolb – to early to tell for sure, want to see how he does in the next 2 preseason games
Clayton – has done well
Lindley – not 100% sold, but Ellis Hobbs might be a winner
& I think everyon’es for getting our starting FS
Nate Allen – came in & immediately number 1 on the depth chart, no other rookie is above a veteren on it. Brandon Graham isn’t even a ‘starter’ yet.
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
"In two years he's failed to mane any impact."
No way, his mane has made quite the impact. I think there’s a rule that every team in the NFL needs at least one player with dreads.
From his website:
“Obey the LAWS!”
I only hope he’s this years Winston Justice.
Another player who’s a winner in my book is Ellis Hobbs. I’m not saying he’s had an outstanding camp, but he’s reassured me that we’re going to be fine at the CB position. I was a little skeptical at first, but he seems to be doing fine and all the coaches say he’s a workhorse who’s willing to go that extra step to help improve himself and the team.
Not “top 5”, but I’d say Vick is a winner as well. Mixed, but generally positive reviews of him from camp, a good preseason performance, and no one is talking about Quan Phillips anymore.
Ernie Sims gets the “Leonard Weaver Award”.
Who should get the “Winston Justice Award”?
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YEs, but I don’t think the Justice award can be awarded after camp.
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Wait, hold up.
I love Jason Avant as much as the next guy, but how can ANY receiver possibly be called the “best WR at Leheigh” when DeSean Jackson is there?
Well, for one Jackson wasn’t up there for a good portion of camp… but otherwise all I can say that you had to be there. Avant was unreal.
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this is my first season following the Eagles through BGN so bear with me.
im getting Na Brown award goes to person who kicks ass in training camp, but then fades in regular season.
but whats the leonard weaver award and winston justice award??
I would assume that:
The Leonard Weaver award probably has something to do with a free-agent offseason acquisition impressing at their first Eagles camp?
And the Winston Justice award clearly is awarded to a player who has been in the Eagles system for a few years, has looked like an epic bust earlier in his career, and then suddenly and inexplicably has a resurgent showing.
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