Michael Vick: Square Peg. Eagles: Round Hole
by IggleGreen on Aug 14, 2010 9:30 AM EDT
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PrintWatching Michael Vick out there last night against the Jaguars reminded me of someone. Don't laugh, but he reminded me of early Donovan McNabb - when he used to run. Watching Vick trying to be a pocket quarterback last night was a very solid affirmation of Marty and Andy's coaching abilities and at times very frustrating.
Vick was holding onto the ball much longer than either Kolb or Kafka and as the pocket collapsed you could see the man fighting himself NOT to run. There were a few plays where, no doubt, he could have picked up at least a first down, maybe broken open, but he did what he is being coached to do, and that says a lot about the guy. Last year I thought he was an uncoachable, 'loose cannon on deck'. This year, I am watching change his game like Rocky switching from being a southpaw to a right handed fighter. (OK, so that was just a movie.)
All this is nice, but I still say that if Donovan McNabb continued to run the ball after his ACL tear as much as he did before the ACL tear, two things would have happened:
1. The Eagles never would have considered a need for a Wildcat formation because McNabb was an "Always-on" Wildcat.
2. The Eagles would more likely have won a Lombardi Trophy.
Conclusion: Don't over coach Vick to the point that his greatest assets are lost. He is a square peg - a scrambling quarterback and one hell of a runner. While you can shave down some of his corners so he fits the offense a little better, reads better and passes more effectively, don't turn him into the round peg that never leaves the pocket. What a waste of natural talent that would be.
Right now I see him not only as a backup, but also as a great Red Zone assest and an excellent momentum changer should the offense get bogged down.
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We might be
able to get a #2 draft pick if some injuries happen this preseason!
Take the name off the back of the jersey's and reinvent football as a team sport.
Pay these guys 3,000,000 a year tops and match them dollar for dollar in a global indexed pension. Eliminate the irresponsibility by being responsible for making young kids over night millionaires.
by MightyJoeBanner on Aug 14, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure the Vikings might need him
if Favre doesn’t come back (although unlikely). They might give up the #2, or at least a #3.
"Each guy in here has to look in the mirror and ask themselves: " - Brian Dawkins
by TheRealMcCoy on Aug 14, 2010 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
I was hoping the Eagles would trade Vick, but I think they need him as their backup at this point. I was pretty impressed w/him last night, and I’m admittedly not a Vick fan.
Granted, 2 preseason quarters does not a season make, but for the first time I thought he looked like he may be a starter in this league again. (No, I don’t think it will be here.)
And yeah, Farve’s coming back.
Don’t kid yourself Farve is comming back. The day he dosn’t play football is the day it becomes creepy for a 40 year old man to send cockshots to 20 year old women.
Hey Dez, it's 2am do you know where your mother is?
by sowhatifitisasportste on Aug 14, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
not everyday
you hear the word “cockshot”
Cowboys suck.
by stinkypants on Aug 16, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
good points… i always thought it was a mistake for the birds to ‘make’ super 5 a pocket passer and not even utilize his legs… they actually brainwashed D Mac into thinkin that running 3 yards for a 1st down was no longer an option… as opposed to the screen pass that ultimately killed so many worms at westy’s feet….
I would trade Mike Vick
For a warm six pack of beer.
I miss Buddy ball.
"Up yours, asshole!"--EvilBanner to effeminate yachtsman Boston Jeff Lurie
Or
a nice dead body to eat and then make love to. Look your avatar worships the devil!
Take the name off the back of the jersey's and reinvent football as a team sport.
Pay these guys 3,000,000 a year tops and match them dollar for dollar in a global indexed pension. Eliminate the irresponsibility by being responsible for making young kids over night millionaires.
by MightyJoeBanner on Aug 14, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
That's just stupid.
MJB, get your act together. You can’t eat the body first. There would be nothing left to make love to.
Now a light snack first is a different story…
lol
im new to this devil worshiping stuff.
Take the name off the back of the jersey's and reinvent football as a team sport.
Pay these guys 3,000,000 a year tops and match them dollar for dollar in a global indexed pension. Eliminate the irresponsibility by being responsible for making young kids over night millionaires.
by MightyJoeBanner on Aug 14, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
OK, you're forgiven.
“Remember: Pillage first, THEN burn!”
I forget where that quote is from.
Right, because Buddy was so successful as a HC. You know, winning all those playoff games and everything.
Formerly... "You don't have to be sweet, to be good"
by Ed Van Chimp on Aug 15, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait...
Rocky wasn’t a real guy? My whole world is collapsing around me.
Brian Dawkins for President
McNabb’s unwillingness to run later on was also self imposed. He resisted running because he did not want to be labeled as such.
McNabb would have been better served with an offense that more appropriately utilized his strengths, and one that relied on a strong running attack. An established running game keeps the secondary honest, and opens up the vertical routes, which Donovan can certainly throw well. Reid’s ideal offense is precision and timing based, and Donovan’s skills are just not suited for that. Obviously, Donovan was successful during his time here, but that is due less to the offense and more to his natural ability, and the fact that he is a very coachable player.
precisely why we went with Kolb this year
McNabb’s strengths was not this offense
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
Vick will be a great wild cat player
He can confuse defenders. If you can get a safety to bite on his run fakes BYE BYE Djack or Maclin. and yes, he did make those bad plays (LIKE HE ALWAYS DID THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER) he always makes the big plays too..kinda like mcnabb and his accuracy and his big play ability.
Yes it did piss me off that mcnabb didnt run later on in his career too but mcnabb imo is pretty slow now, i’m pretty sure almost all LBs can run him down which wasn’t the case early on
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
I feel bad for Vick
I wish we could trade him now. Talent like his being reduced to a #2 role while he’s shown reason he could warrent a 3rd round pick to a team like the bills.
Man's best freind is not a dog....but an Eagle
Precisely.
Vick’s in a great place here in Philly. It’ll be interesting to see where he goes after this year.
Veritas Liberabit Te
He’s also not good enough to be a starter right now. Most overrated player I’ve ever seen.
Formerly... "You don't have to be sweet, to be good"
by Ed Van Chimp on Aug 15, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
people
are forgetting the two turnovers. You can’t say “except for the turn overs, he looked good”. In a real game those turnovers are huge. Along with his amazing talents come huge shortfalls which balance out to make him average.
Cowboys suck.
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