Former NFL Scout Gushes Over Kevin Kolb
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According to former NFL Scout Dave Razzano, the Eagles improved themselves at quarterback this offseason.
I think he’s very similar to Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay. Same arm, same competitiveness, same drive. I think he might struggle a little early as he gets used to receivers and all, but I think by the end of the year he could have a big year. He could have 30, 35 touchdowns. I really believe that. With their arsenal of wideouts, I think Kolb is going to be outstanding. I think once the dust settles, and it’s his — his preparation is outstanding, his work ethic, the coaches believe in him. He’s a great kid. He’s got all the intangibles. Again, I think he’s similar to Aaron Rodgers. His whole being is similar to Aaron Rodgers. He can make all the throws. I think he’s going to be outstanding. I don’t think they’ll miss a beat, and the question in Philly will be their defense. They have a young defense, new coordinator, some new people in the secondary. That’s their question mark. Offensively, I don’t think they’ll miss a beat. They may even be more productive.
30-35 TDs for Kolb? That would obviously be outstanding, but is it a bit much to expect of a guy in his first year as starter?
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At least it sounds promising that people with some sort of NFL pedigree are liking what they see in Kolb.
yea
its good to hear some of the people on the other side of the fence when it comes to reports on philly … seems like the nay sayers of Philadelphia media try to build the fence as high as they can so all you see is them
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by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 6, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
It seems like people in the know are really high on Kolb.
That doesn’t mean he can’t be a bust, but it does bode well that so far, the people down on the Eagles are down because of youth and the transition to new players, as though those couldn’t end up being positives (or washes)
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Heck, with 30-35 touchdowns this year, he’d easily slip into consideration for being among the league’s best quarterbacks.
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McNabb’s best TD total, which is also the second-highest in franchise history, was 31.
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I believe at the time, he was the first player in history to throw more than 30 TD’s and less than 10 int’s.
by captain nodar on Jul 6, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
There is no way he puts up 35, but he will almost surely put up at least 30.
Thats a beast of a year IMO. I guess its not impossible for him to put up 35, Andy loves to throw.
In Kolb we trust
Uh…wow.
I would love for Kolb to be anything near Aaron Rodgers, with Rodgers a QB I love to watch. But 30-35 TD passes in first year?? Only QB I can think of off top my head that did that was Kurt Warner, in ’99 with a ridicules 40-some TD passes.
So, yeah, I’m not expecting 30+ TDs.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
Yes, that is a bit much to expect.
He already is getting crowned prematurely; this kind of expectation could only be damaging. I get that he’s had time to learn the system and get to know his teammates and learn from McNabb’s mistakes, but come on. 30-35 TD’s in his first year? I am no way ready to get my hopes that high this early. A grand total of 4 QBs threw for at least 30 TD’s last year: Drew Brees, Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers. I will maintain tempered expectations.
would be great
I guess the question is who did this guy scout for and when? Have to see what kind of track record he really has before I take him at his word. If he scouted the likes of Flacco, Schaub or some other proving performers then great stuff. If he told the Raider’s to pick JaMarcus Russel number one, then I weep.
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Dave Razzano is a former NFL scout and Playmaker Mobile correspondent with more than 22 years of professional scouting experience with the San Francisco 49ers, St. Louis Rams and Arizona Cardinals under NFL coaches including Bill Walsh, George Seifert, Chuck Knox, Dick Vermeil and Dennis Green. He has been a part of five Super Bowls with three Super Bowl wins (49ers, 1989, 1990; Rams, 2000).
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It should also be noted he's been fired twice
And made just as many good choices as he has bad ones. While it is a nice prediction, I’ve read other stuff this guy said, he’s not that great of a scout.
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by maxwellsdemon on Jul 7, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
outstanding, outstanding, outstanding.
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by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 6, 2010 1:50 PM EDT reply actions
your alive ! :D
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by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 6, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
yes yes i am alive. just insanely busy at work still. Then my inlaws bought an investment property that somehow i am in charge of managing.
I’ve still been reading and trying to keep up. You guys been looking for me??
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by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 6, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions
:)
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by GreenInBaltimore on Jul 6, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
All the experts
or those who have a lot of knowledge about this guy love him… this is only building my confidence I have in him because I can honestly say this time last year, I was not a fan.
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i was optomistic last year this time but i was in doubt
but i agree i have had a drastic increase in confidence since then
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"i know talent .. the eagles do not " – JIBTA
by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 6, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s nice to hear that Dave Razzano thinks Kolb will be successful, but I’m kind of tired of the Aaron Rodgers comparisons. Aaron Rodgers is a great QB, but his style of play is very different from Kevin Kolb’s. Rodgers replaced a longtime starting QB in Green Bay – Kolb is replacing a longtime starting QB in Philly… That’s about where any comparison between the two players should end – Just one opinion here, but his analysis seems lazy and generic.
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by JimmyK on Jul 6, 2010 2:02 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Calm down, Jimmy
He is comparing him to Aaron Rodgers because both of them are white. It’s the same as comparing Jason Campbell to Byron Leftwich because both are black. There’s nothing wrong with that reasoning. It’s certainly not “lazy and generic.” Hell, my Ford pickup is just like my friend’s Mercedes convertible. Both have four wheels and are made out of steel. Shit, both have an engine too.
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He is comparing him to Aaron Rodgers because both of them are white.
I disagree. By law, any white-on-white NFL player comparison must include Wes Welker, no matter how ridiculous the circumstance.
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funny thing is I compare him more to Brees,
Just because of the whole arm strengh thing. They both have intermediate strengh arms, nothing special. But they both base their games off of reading defenses and making Quick throws to the correct spot.
I think Rogers has a stronger arm that Kevin, not that Kevin doesn’t have a strong arm, only that he has average strength, but so did Joe Montana, Troy Aikman, and Tom Brady for that matter. Not everyone is McNabb, Elway or Young.
In Kolb we trust
Yup, much more like Brees than Rodgers, although Kolb and Brees have their differences too. Truth is, I haven’t really seen enough of Kolb to compare his game to anybody. 2 games of tape is nice, and although it’s not enough to determine who he compares with the most, it’s enough to say he’s not like Rodgers.
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I agree. I've been all over Kolb stuff since he was drafted.
He is nothing like Rogers. Just that he will be a huge stat guy like Rogers and had to waite for his time.
I think Kolb accels at the short game, he has crazy stones to make some of the throws he makes.
Don’t discard his preseason performance, he played more than any other QBs in the NFL in preseason. So there is more than just 2 tapes of him. But most of those tapes are early in his developement, they mean nothing now as he would have gotten better.
I can’t wait for camp bro. I hope he stays healthy all year.
In Kolb we trust
Dude...
…the Wes Welker comparison is implied, as it always is. It’s silent, like the “b” in “subtle” or the “d” in “Rodgers”
...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.
Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer
Ah, “The Welker is silent.” I thinking that’s the new BGN reply to anyone that compares a white guy with another white guy.
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lmao
this still takes the sidelines to cobb’d for typos lol
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by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 6, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
im on it ... we can correspond this through our email
maybe even get it plugged on the side navigation so new users and outsiders can understand our jargin lol
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by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 6, 2010 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Jibtastic
Jibtastic= black, muscular, extremely athletic, low Wonderlic, sub 4.40 40 time, runs poor routes/lacks the mind for football, can’t read the playbook, completely undisciplined
Examples: Darius Heyward-Bey, Michael Vick, Brandon Marshall
...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.
Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer
This new term is just in time.
Many white guys need comparing to other white guys. This phrase gives us the tools we need to do our jobs. Sav Rocca, watch out. I now have the technology I need to compare you to any one of the Jonas Brothers.
...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.
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by MightyJoeBanner on Jul 6, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Also they both sat for a number of seasons behind great quarterbacks.
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by maxwellsdemon on Jul 7, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven't heard a single scout or coach say Kolb had no upside.
They all agree his is very very good.
In Kolb we trust
Yeah right...
… setting the poor guy up to be in a no win situation. What if he just puts up 29 in his first year? Let the guy settle in. Don’t expect too much this year and we won’t be calling for his head before the bye week.
He’s a new starting QB – we gotta remember that.
OFF WITH HIS HEAD !

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by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 6, 2010 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
His play style is NOTHING like Rodgers. Get real, scout.
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by Route36 on Jul 6, 2010 3:32 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
you fkin tell him !
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by NorthPhillyKid on Jul 6, 2010 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
30-35 Touchdowns?
What is the scout basing his assessment on? 2 games? OTAs?
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lol..........
More like 35 ints……..JK JK this is ridiculous tho how people are givin him 30 tds already.
Addition by subtraction. I like that.
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by STRAIGHTOYOURFACE on Jul 6, 2010 4:54 PM EDT reply actions
Addition by subtraction has worked..
…T.O. in Dallas, for example.
So you're saying...
The subtraction of McNabb, Westbrook, etc. will work out? Okay…
Win and win some more...
Not saying that either way.
We’ll see if it works out at the end of the season. And even then folks will still argue what it all meant and how it really turned out. Throw two Iggles fans into a room and you’ll get three opinions. LOUD opinions, at that.
I was just saying it worked once.
Period.
K Kolb
Now we see why this guy is an EX NFL scout!! Granted Kolb may throw a bunch of TDs because we know Andy is going to throw 70% of the time. The difference between McNabb and Kolb will be the amount of interceptions Kolb throws. When his interception total reaches the high teens fans will be crying for McNabb.
by enrique s on Jul 6, 2010 4:57 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Bingo..
McNabb didn’t throw more than 12 picks, even when he was a young QB. And Kolb will have at least 16. I think he throws 24 TD…at most.
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by JayDuce on Jul 6, 2010 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
so?
his low INTs didnt make up for his awful 3 and outs (same thing as a pick IMO) the best QBs this year all had 15-16 picks
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So you are accepting a potentially more pick prone Kolb?
Inquiring minds want to know!
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by Lombardi and Broad on Jul 6, 2010 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd take a 3 and out over a interception
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by maxwellsdemon on Jul 7, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
False
When his interception total reaches the high teens fans will be crying for McNabb.
Most of us who have been paying attention realize that we’ve traded low-INT/strong-arm in the hopes of getting increased accuracy/efficiency in return.
I’ve typed that here myself at least a dozen times.
The big question for me is where is the line where more interceptions are okay in exchange for more third-down and red-zone conversions, and are we gonna be on the good side of that line?
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I get you but, how many times has the guy right after the franchise QB actually
improved the team alone by his own greatness? (Or even maintained what the future HOFer did for the franchise?) I can think recently Rodgers after a tough first year, Steve Young, Randall Cunningham. This is not looking good folks! The optimism is shocking. The history of the game places a grim reality on the back of Kevin Kolb. (Danny White, Bubby Brister, Jay Fiedler….) Donovan did not get us a Super Bowl, but his record shows he is way too tough to replace. I’m preparing myself by thinking of Kolb as a place holder, while the Eagles brass figures out what this team will be 3 years from now. This is going to take some time folks! By the history of QB’s following the star, Kolb is more likely to be Bobby Hoying then Aaron Rodgers. I’m willing to be proven wrong. How many times has the “heir apparent” make great, greater or better, greatest? Steve Young maintained. He was not better than Joe Montana. I give Randall the slight edge over Jaws. Jaws was never the Ultimate Weapon, although he was player of the year. Will Rodgers be better than Farvre? NO! But he is good. I can’t think of many back to back great franchise QB’s. This is a tough position to place Kolb in. I say we go with this guy and be patient with him regardless of how many picks he throws this year. You can’t make it all about Kolb being better than McNabb or he will fail. The Eagles must win the Super Bowl by improving all facets of the game! Kolb won’t be better than McNabb (I’d take your money on this one.) in same span of time McNabb had. But he could win us a Super Bowl being a less than super QB. That’s rational!
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by Lombardi and Broad on Jul 7, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Phillip Rivers, Aaron Rodgers, Marc Bulger, Tom Brady, Tony Romo…
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I didn't ask who the next QB's were. I said his own greatness QB's! Bulger sucked, Rivers followed
a young Brees, Romo (Greatness? Good but I have not seen Great from Romo) followed a washed up Bledsoe. I’ll give you Brady following a solid Bledsoe. And I already gave you Rodgers. So you proved my point. Kolb has a tough way. And only Kurt Warner can match a McNabb from your list. Unless you are a McNabb hater. And don’t give me Brees yet (Great but need to see more to with Warner and McNabb). Give him a few years. How long did McNabb do it? Kolb has a tough way coming.
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by Lombardi and Broad on Jul 8, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions
You're free to be as pessimistic as you want, but you're missing several points ...
… and since you responded to my post, L&B, this is for you.
1) The optimism people are showing isn’t just from Eagles fans being homers. It’s coming from knowledgeable football people who don’t necessarily have any connection to the Eagles or reason to want to boost Kolb up, or from people like JimmyK using the information we have available to us, like game tape from Kolb’s two starts, to analyze. Nothing guarantees Kolb will be any good, but at least they’re basing it on something besides wishing.
2) You asked:
I get you but, how many times has the guy right after the franchise QB actually improved the team alone by his own greatness? (Or even maintained what the future HOFer did for the franchise?)
This is a major, major, MAJOR point to miss. Nobody with a clue — and I realize that may not include you — that I’ve discussed this with has insinuated that Kolb needs to “improve the team alone by his own greatness.”
In fact, a lot of people think quite the opposite. Kolb need only be his accurate, quick-decision-making self and get the ball in the hands of Jackson, Maclin, Celek et. al. to keep this offense humming. If, in fact, Kolb turns out to be more accurate than McNabb in tight spots, this could improve the offense by improving conversion rates on third down and in the red zone, but Kolb doesn’t even need to be that for the offense to be good. The playmakers are there. If he were to be merely a game manager, the offense can score some points.
3) How often a franchise QB is replaced by another very good QB is nearly irrelevant to whether Kolb can do replace McNabb. You establish in your own post that it’s possible:
I can think recently Rodgers after a tough first year, Steve Young, Randall Cunningham. This is not looking good folks!
That’s like saying how often does a baseball player hit a grand slam when the bases are loaded? It doesn’t happen often, but proving that it doesn’t happen often doesn’t mean it never happens.
4) That said, refer to point No. 2. Kolb doesn’t need to be McNabb. He needs to be his best self. If he can run this offense, and be efficient in it, the playmakers are in place for this offense to score a lot of points. With the proper defense and special teams, the playmakers are in place for the Eagles to win a lot of games.
5)
Kolb won’t be better than McNabb (I’d take your money on this one.)
Yeah, I’m not even sure you can count money, let alone be trusted not to welch on a bet. But I’d never make this bet. If in fact your post is in direct response to me, that proves you haven’t been paying attention very long. I am not a “Kolb guy” per se. I was hoping we’d fix the defense and take one more shot at it with McNabb, but I also recognized the wisdom in getting something for McNabb before he walked for free (Hi Cleveland! How’s LeBron working out for you guys?) and starting the “rebuilding process” sooner so that if Kolb needed time to grow into the role, he’d peak around the time the other “young guns” are peaking. And the defense needed an infusion of players too.
Short story long, making this about Kolb vs. McNabb is a flawed premise. This is about whether the young and replenished Eagles will challenge for a Super Bowl title in 2010, 11, 12, 13 and 14 more than an aging, overpriced, declining skills set of Eagles would have. And the answer to that is something we can all agree on.
6) Proof that you and I agree on some things:
This is a tough position to place Kolb in. I say we go with this guy and be patient with him regardless of how many picks he throws this year. You can’t make it all about Kolb being better than McNabb or he will fail.
Absolutely. I agree 100%, and if this alone had been your post, I would have rec’d it and moved on.
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3 and out is NOT the same thing as a pick...
Here we go; agreeing with you was not fun…
After a 3 and out, at least Rocca could make feeble punt 30-40 yds downfield.
With an interception, the opposition can turn it into a pick 6 (which McNabb only threw to Ronde Barber for some reason) or good field position.
Listen, I think Kolb will be a very good QB a few years from now. I just think heaping praise on him is very premature.
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by JayDuce on Jul 6, 2010 6:30 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
30-35 TDs?
Just a bit optimistic. I would love to bet the ‘under’ there.
I could see 23-24 TDs or so though if things break right especially on the o-line. More concerned about how many INTs and sacks he takes. If he throws 16-17 INTs, then those 25 TDs will look alot less impressive.
That’s not a bad stat line. If he threw 25 TDs with 16 picks, that’s really pretty good. That’s really just a few more TDs and few more picks than McNabb threw.
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If you are throwing 15+ picks
You’d better be close to doubling that in touchdowns.
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by maxwellsdemon on Jul 7, 2010 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
It's July 6th. Every team looks like a Super Bowl contender if
a few things happen—-LIKE WINS! And cut down on the losses! :)
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by Lombardi and Broad on Jul 6, 2010 9:19 PM EDT reply actions
I'll take that
I’m getting so excited for this season. Anything less than 35 TDs from Kolb will be a MAJOR disappointment ;-)
I don't care how many TDs Kolb throws
Well I do, but the number means little to me. I don’t even know off top what’s good, pretty good, great … 16 is meh obviously, and 40+ is a lot.
But what matters to me this year with Kolb is how many red zone trips they turn into TDs. I don’t care if he throws ‘em, McCoy or Weaver runs em in or they fumble and Todd Herremans recovers in the end zone. All I know is that for the past several years it seems like the Eagles move the ball up and down the field and then don’t convert inside the 20. I realize all teams don’t convert sometimes and my fan mind might be skewing this … but I suspect there are some stats to back this up.
(goes over to run search on IgglesBlog)
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Yeah, the red zone offense has been extremely frustrating
But hey, as mentioned here numerous times before, Harbaugh did mention that Kolb was unstoppable inside the 20. Plus, Ingram will be here this year (assuming he pans out) and Maclin will have another year under his belt. I think Kolb will do alright this season.
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I'd agree our red zone offense is going to be a lot better this year.
With the playstyle tradeoff we made from Don to Kev, the short quick passes that get you into the end zone within the 20 are KK’s strength and we won’t be seeing those “WTF” moments from KK as we did Don in those short range, high pressure situations. As long as Kolb can learn to stay off his back foot when he gets that blitz in the red zone, he will be ok.
In Kolb we trust...
Less than one a game ...
… seems forgivable.
Of course he’s gonna have some first-year F-ups. But if he can outweigh the good with the bad, the rest of this team is well-rounded enough (potentially) to compete.
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