Taking Stock of Eagles Training Camp: Day 3
by Bob_Q on Jul 29, 2010 3:37 PM EDT
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Today marked the last practice for rookies and selected veterans before the full 80-man roster arrives at Lehigh University. Here's a brief look at who's stock is on the rise and who's stock is falling after the third day of camp.
Stock on the Rise
Mike Kafka: As the only quarterback to practice today (Kevin Kolb and Micheal Vick had the day off), Kafka had the benefit of an increased number of reps - which he certainly used to his advantage. Coach Marty Mornhinweg was so impressed with the rookie's camp so far, he started gushing to the Philadelphia media about Kafka's ability to pick up the playbook:
"He's the best rookie that way I've ever had in 15, 16, 17 years. He's really sharp. He's sharp book-wise, too, but he's also very intelligent athletically."
Jeff Owens: This year has apparently been an excellent one for seventh round draft picks. Owens has had an excellent camp so far, performing well during one-on-one drills. He has shown a nice ability for collapsing the pocket and should push Trevor Laws and Antonio Dixon for a spot on the active roster.
Jeraill McCuller: The undrafted rookie tackle had a second solid day at camp, looking impressive in one-on-one pass rushing drills (particularly against fellow rookie Ricky Sapp) and drawing positive attention from a very enthusiastic Juan Castillo. Said McCuller of his day at practice:
"Today was the first day when I just felt really comfortable, getting out here practicing hard, going up against the best talent in the world."
During a period where the Eagles offensive line has been described as "kiddie-pool quaility" (a.k.a having minimal depth), McCuller's continued high intensity could very well net him a roster spot.
Chad Hall: After building a rapport with Kevin Kolb yesterday, Hall took it upon himself today to stay after practice and work on extra receiving reps with fellow rookie Mike Kafka. In addition to his great work ethic, over the next few days Hall will get the chance to show off his versatility as well. When interviewed this afternoon, Marty Monhinweg confirmed that the team would be working the young Air Force product in at running back as well as wide receiver.
Stock Falling
Brandon Graham: No new contract news to report. The rest of the veteran defensive ends report to camp tomorrow, so from then on, Graham will be losing valuable practice time against his biggest roster competitors. I know I don't have to repeat myself, but get it done! Pick #8 Rolando McClain, pick #19 Sean Weatherspoon, and pick #28 Jared Odrick have just joined Dez Bryant and Devin McCourty in the "We've Been Signed to Mega-Contracts" Club, so that should move things along.
Daniel Te'o-Nesheim: After a solid day yesterday, our third round pick seemed to have a bit of an off-day. He underperformed a bit during one-on-one drills, failing to get past center A.Q. Shipley and struggling versus undrafted tackle Austin Howard.
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Maybe Ship and Howard are better than advertised. You heard it here first: AQ beats Cole for starting C job.
PENN STATE!!
i dont know why...
But shipley reminds me of hank fraley
by eaglemaniac814 on Jul 29, 2010 4:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Danny T
better start performing. I was pretty unhappy with this signing to begin with but everyone was so confident that they refused to see anything negative. I would love to eat my words, but I’m just not convinced that he was a smart draft pick that day.
Also, I don’t like how Graham’s stock is always on the falling list. I feel like it shouldn’t fluctuate at all. He’s not getting better. He’s not getting worse. It’s also not really up to him to make a deal as much as we think. It’s not like he is in the office with the agent saying “NO! That’s not enough!”
I dunno, that’s just my two sense. It seems pointless to put him on that list every day until he signs. Give that spot to someone else whose stock is falling.
"Can I have my Kolb salad with extra.... bacon?"
Get it? cuz Kevin Kolb hunts pigs? and bacon comes from those?
if your not getting better your getting worse
by Clyde Simmons on Jul 29, 2010 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
It’s also not really up to him to make a deal as much as we think. It’s not like he is in the office with the agent saying "NO! That’s not enough!"
Very true, and maybe he’s not to blame, but his stock is dropping nonetheless.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
Uhh, can we relax a little here. He MAY have looked so-so today, but it’s far from him sucking for 3 straight weeks (hell, Laws has done that for 2 straight years and it never hurt him). It’s not like Danny T is about to get cut. And just yesterday his stock was rising. So let’s refrain from labeling this guy a bust.
This is a little of the Bryan Smith syndrome seeping in. Maybe Howard felt it was time to man up after being abused yesterday and played out of his mind. Who knows? And you don’t just line up against a Penn State man and expect to win…
I agree w/everything you say…but when DT was picked I said the pick reminded me of when they drafted Smith.
I don’t know. Smith was a kid from McNeese State that was wildly undersized, and a major project. Te’o was the all-time leader in sacks at a major D1 school. There’s a enormous difference in their college productivity.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
Ok,I was just watching the video of practice today
Howard was holding the shit out of T’eo when he came around the edge a couple of times; another time T’eo beat Howard easily.
As far as battle with Shipley goes, AQ was battled him til the end, but T’eo seriously pushed the pocket. Equally as well as Owens did against Shipley.
I agree. I didn’t mean to imply that I thought they were physically similar or that the programs were similar. It just seemed like in both situations they really reached for a DE rated to go several rounds later based on measurables.
Now I’ve got my Training Camp Green Goggles on, and and I’m alright with Te’o and excited to see what he can do.
i never labeled him a "bust"
My point is that we spent a first round on good DE and a third round on another (relatively unknown) DE when we have a beast in trent cole…. then a 5th on ANOTHER DE with Sapp. I really was perplexed by this draft.
Danny T has to perform for 2 reasons… 1) he was a pretty high draft pick and 2) Cuz he has a lot of talent to contend with.
He can’t afford days where he looks sloppy. True, it is the beginning of training camp and he is a rookie, but that is why i said he better start performing if he wants to prove that he wasn’t a redundant draft pick.
"Can I have my Kolb salad with extra.... bacon?"
Get it? cuz Kevin Kolb hunts pigs? and bacon comes from those?
I have to agree with you there
I thought Sapp and DTO were both redundant and I was thinking CB with both of those picks (or maybe OL). I don’t think the Eagles anticipate him being anthing more than a role player…ever.
But he can afford some sloppy days. He’s a 3rd for God’s sake. He’d have to be terrible not to make it. Sapp is the one that can’t afford sloppy days. He keeps hitting the ground against McCuller and backups like he did today and he’ll be looking for a new team.
by DLawrence55 on Jul 29, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they wanted to go heavy on pass rushers in this draft, hence Graham and Te’o in the early rounds. But when the 5th round rolled around and Sapp was still sitting there, it was too good of a value to pass up. You’re not looking to draft for need in the later rounds – You’re just hoping to come away with good players, no matter what the position.
If half of your draft picks become contributors, that’s a good draft. Most GM’s would rank the importance of football talent in this order… QB is number 1 of course, then LT, then guys that can get to the QB. In a draft in which the Eagles had 13 picks, I kind of like the thought of going pass rusher heavy, if for no other reason than to hedge their bet.
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
Reality is Graham has complete control, he’s the one that hired the agent who’s supposed to be negotiating his contract. If he wanted the deal done so bad then he has to be the one that starts lighting a fire under his agent and telling him to hurry his ass up. I understand they might be waiting for the 12th and 14th pick to play out but if the 14th pick was waiting for the 13th and 15th nothing would ever get done. From everything I’m hearing it sounds like the agent is waiting it out and Graham’s stock is dropping.
Maybe the Eagles FO is lowballing him. Arent they on the tight side.
Ability is a poor mans wealth.
The main ingredient of stardom is the rest of the team.
Talent is God given, Be humble. Fame is man given, Be grateful. Conceit is self-given, Be careful.
-John Wooden-
Well all I can base that thought on is that from everything I’ve heard in the press conferences it’s sounding like the agent is moving like it’s crunch time. Judging by the way the Nate Allen deal went they said “The agent was waiting for the timing to be right” so it would seem the agents wait for the board to play out and sit the rookie out until then.
Jesus F. Christ, have patience… are we really giving DTN shit over ONE bad TC day?
Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - C&H
by alcatraz0109 on Jul 30, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I know people think he’s a big reach, but throwing around the ‘bust’ label now is really, really stupid.
Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - C&H
by alcatraz0109 on Jul 30, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Kafka was a steal...
Watching the Senior Bowl (I think), I thought he was absolutely great out there. Nice pick, he’ll be a solid player in a few years for you guys, and a good system fit, with enough athletic ability to run a little bit when needed.
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Looking good MG77…
the $1.00 bet is classic.
"it's like i tell my ex-wife, i never drive faster than i can see, and besides it's all in the reflexes." -Jack Burton, Big trouble in little China
Pretty much the whole movie
is classic, but the bet is right up there.
WOW
man i know he was matched up against not so great players but man i was blown away by Jeff Owens, he was pushing his man back 5-10 yards in 1-1 drills every time and seemed unblockable at times, anybody else pumped up over this guy who is gonna have a chip on his shoulder???/
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