The Eagles are looking like a kiddie pool
Finally, the long and dreary post season is over; players are grabbing their helmets and cleats as they head down to places like Lehigh University. And while optimism is strong and the faces new, the young age of the Eagles draws another comparison. 
While my comparison of the Eagles to a kiddie pool has little to do with the Eagles young roster, it refers to the lack of depth the Eagles has at many positions. While the wide receivers, quarterbacks, and defensive line cores have excellent depth, the rest of the team have minimal depth at best.
As most heard, Todd Herremans will begin training camp and maybe longer on the PUP list. The blow is significant beyond the fact that he may be the best offensive linemen on this team. There has already been a shift for the loss of starting center Jamaal Jackson, who will likely miss this year due to a ACL tear. Most anticipate that Nick Cole, our best back up guard, will fill in at center this year for Jackson. The inability of Herremans makes a major strain on a already weak core of back up offensive linemen. We will lose many games if we do not have sufficient depth. Last year we all remember how insufficient depth hurt us deeply during the season. From the loss of Jason Peters in the Raiders game to the six different middle linebackers for Steward Bradley. Few teams can pull out victories with inadequate depth.
The Colts and Patriots are one of the few teams that are able to do this. Last year the Colts lost emerging WR Anthony Gonzalez and Bob Sanders for the majority of last season. While some might argue that Garcon and Collie weren't seen as sufficient depth; they have a rare quarterback that can make do with almost any playerin Peyton Manning. And while Kevin Kolb may be the best thing since corn, he won't be at that level any time soon and therefore will need all the help he can get from his line. I don't think that McNabb could handle a loss like Herremans with our current line, but then again, he has his own problems in D.C. The Patriots are the other team that can also win without decent depth. Two years ago, Tom Brady went down for the season and they had average quarterback in Cassel. He was able to lead them to an impressive 11-5 that year. But it is apparent that their success came from their amazing offense with a average quarterback, as Matt Cassel led the Chiefs with poor starters and depth through a piss poor season. And while we have a very high powered offense, we are very far from having all the need pieces.
Solution One: Use what we have in our 80-man roster. A possible offensive line could be Peters, Cole, Shipley, Andrews, and Justice. I gave Shipley the nod with his impressive first day over putting backup Max Jean-Gilles.
Solution Two: Sign free-agent Chester Pitts. He is one of the most popular guards in free agency as he worked out for several teams in Arizona not to long ago.
While Herremans' may be fine and play from week one to week sixteen. It has brought to light the lack of depth not only on the offensive line. Our secondary is also very weak, we saw today as Allen was not their for camp that the Eagles had to put in a seventh round guy in. I really think that Coleman is going to be great, but it just shows how deep the Eagles are. The same situation goes for the CB's. If Hobbs isn't ready, the nickle/dime corner becomes Trevard Lindley, who he himself is coming off injury his senior year. I give the Eagles an F this off-season in overall depth. If we lose Andrews as well...I would really like to know Kolb's 40 time.
(Crap...I hope Vick comes in for Wildcat next play...)
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I think there's potential for them to be pretty deep
at DT, DE, OLB, WR and OL. And maybe TE and QB.
Even the secondary has quite a few guys with starting experience, they just don’t have the great guys and the depth guys anymore.
I’m not that worried about the Eagles’ depth. Seems to me this is the year they can develop that depth a little since they drafted a kajillion kids and don’t really have that Super Bowl pressure hanging over them.
Clearly next draft they’ll have to address secondary and OL. But looks like they’re set to be a pretty deep team for a long time, the way they’ve recrafted the roster around younguns with different skill sets.
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we desperately need more depth at corner.
love him or hate him, it’s very important for asante to stay healthy this year. i’m not confident in hanson/hobbs as my starting corners. if this turns out to be the case, mikell has his work cut out for him(again).
same thing with OL. the fact that king dunlap is still on the roster keeps me up at nights. it’s great that herremans can fill in if need be, but he didn’t look too hot playing OT against richard seymour. i imagine it would be the same against any of the guys we routinely see twice a year.
in retrospect, drafting 3 DE’s doesn’t seem like such a hot idea. then again….i’m no expert. i hope i’m wrong. i wouldn’t mind trading a future pick or two for a solid CB.
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We have depth at corner
We just don’t know if we have talent aside from Samuel. Hobbs, Hanson, Lindley, Pope, Macho is plenty of depth. We just need one of them to step up and play. But that might be too much to ask for. I think Hanson will turn heads this season, and Lindley will prove to be good (maybe not this season). Hobbs could go either way, and Macho sucks. Tommy L also thinks that Pope has the perfect build for CB in height and athleticism and that he just has to put it together on the field.
I think he meant quality depth
Let's get it Birds.
by homestar2281 on Jul 28, 2010 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions
It is quality Depth, However in there is a big diffrence between quality depth and starting talent.
Hey Dez, it's 2am do you know where your mother is?
by sowhatifitisasportste on Jul 28, 2010 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
hard to say
we have a number of relatively unproven guys at corner, but that’s true of all guys until they prove themselves…
I’m going into this hoping this is an opportunity for someone to step up and show that he is a quality player
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
If this Herremans thing is significant
I could easily see McGlynn or Shipley taking over center and Cole sliding out.
That wouldn’t be a bad O line…but definitely not a good one
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
Almost all are coneracks are competing for a starting job and have some skills but Kevin Kolb better get ready to get down and dirty
An F? For the whole offseason?
Really? I lost count a while ago how many DEs/OLBs this team picked up through trades and the draft, and I think they did, too (R.I.P. Alex Hall’s Eagle career).
Coming off last year, LB/DE were probably our biggest need positions. This year, it’s the defensive backfield. They drafted a safety in round 2, and they must see something they like out of the CBs already on the roster (Hobbs/Samuel were the starting CBs for the 18-1 Patriots. Yeah, it was three years ago, but neither of these guys is that old at this point).
About the OL, yeah, they could use a little more depth, that’s for sure, especially the way they have a tendency to get hurt. But they can always put a band-aid on OL depth through free agency while they wait to draft a stud G and/or C next year.
This wasn’t an ‘F’ offseason. At worst you could maybe say ‘C-’, I’d give it something like a ‘B’.
Nope.
a F in overall depth...to be specific, but it wasn't that great of an off-season ethier
Eff age, were winning now!
to early to make that call don’t you think?
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by Talon Talent on Jul 29, 2010 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
You’re saying our depth is an F right now, so you’re essentially writing off every draft pick and all our depth guys from last year?
Nope.
wow...just because we are deep at three or four positions doesn't mean that we are stacked
Eff age, were winning now!
My response was more to the fact that you claimed it wasn’t that great of an off-season. I think it’s to early to say that. We got a what we hope is a good short yardage and change of pace back in Mike Bell. We acquired Ernie Sims in a trade, giving us a better, sure tackling LB (which was a huge negative for us last year), we acquired a CB/FS even though he is already down for the season it wasn’t a bad pick up and made more sense then overpaying for one (see Antrel Rolle who does not deserve the biggest FA FS contract ever), we also got some DE depth with the trade for Tapp, our draft was graded well and we got a starter at FS, a potential stud DE, perhaps a good and undervalued CB, and shore up some depth at LB and amongst the DL. We also got what looks to be a good redzone target in Riley Cooper. Also we got hooked up a ton of cap space by getting rid of some high priced players. Sure it was suprising that we didn’t do more to address our CB and OL positions but I wouldn’t call this not too great of an offseason until we see how these pick ups work out.
"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins
"There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." Bruce Lee
"This fucking game is over!" Chuck Bednarik
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" Mike Tyson
by Talon Talent on Jul 31, 2010 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions
No depth? An F?
1) We just drafted 13 players, more than any other team, in one of the better draft classes! Nate Allen will probably be the only instant starter, making the rest that make the roster all depth.
2) You gave the Patriots two years ago as an example of good depth when Cassel stepped in for Brady. Sure, in retrospect it turned out fine, but at the time who would have called Cassel, a former 7th rounder with no real experience good depth? Ultimately, you just don’t know the quality of depth until you need it.
3) Last year every single one of our starting practice squad players ended up on as a member of a team’s 53 man roster. Seems to imply that those who did make the final roster last year are better (or at least perceived to be better) than most teams’ depth.
4) You mention the depth at WR, QB, DE, and DT, but I’d also add:
- RB – having a rotational RB who just had the most rush attempts on a superbowl-winning team isn’t shabby, not to mention the potential in Charles Scott),
- TE – true they don’t have any experience, but Ingram and Harbor were both actually HIGHER draft picks than our starter, Celek, and have both shown strong potential.
- LB – it’s a good sign that two of our backups were our starters within the past couple of season (Jordan and Gaither), not to mention the high-potential rookies that will fill the backup roles
Im concerned
I’ve been saying im concerned at O-line ever since we used 13 picks in the draft and not one was for the O-line. Everyone said I was insane.
I’m also worried about CB. Can you name one CB comfortable with his tackling ability right now??
....When does football season start again???
by SpursEaglesFanSanAntonio on Jul 29, 2010 2:28 PM EDT reply actions
lindley
seriously, the kids attacks people
by Get Jackson a better nickname on Jul 29, 2010 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions

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