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Should DeSean Jackson still be returning punts in 2010 and beyond?

Some people think that DeSean Jackson is the best football player on the Eagles.  I think I agree.  At the very least, he was unquestionably the Eagles' offensive MVP last season.

His touchdowns last season:

85 yard punt return, 71 yard reception, 64 yard reception, 67 yard run, 57 yard reception, 54 yard reception, 48 yard reception, 35 yard reception, 72 yard punt return, 60 yard reception, 19 yard reception, 2 yard reception, 4 yard reception.  Here are some visuals of those...


When you think about the players in the NFL that have the kind of playmaking ability in which they are a legitimate threat to score any time they touch the football, no matter where they are on the field, there are two players that are in a class of their own - Chris Johnson and DeSean Jackson. 

An injury to Jackson (knocking on wood) would be devastating, which is why I've heard the question asked... Should DeSean Jackson still be returning punts in 2010 and beyond, thus putting him at a greater risk of being injured?

For me, it's an emphatic YES, for the following reasons...

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1) Quite simply, he's the best punt returner in the NFL.  There were a grand total of 10 punt return TD's in the entire NFL last season.  Jackson had 2 of them and nearly broke 2 more. For players with a minimum of 20 punt returns, Jackson led the the league with 15.2 yards per returnWes Welker was a distant 2nd, with an average of 12.5 yards per return.  If you have a player that is the best in the league at something, I'm not inclined to have him stop doing it.

2) Punt returns are not kick returns.  Kick returns are brutal.  On kick returns, you have 10 players running full speed down the field, as the returner runs full speed head on at them.  It looks a lot like the fight scenes in Braveheart, where the English and Scottish forces charge at one another from a across a field at full speed.  No way do I want DeSean Jackson returning kicks.

Punt returns are completely different.  For starters, it's sheer numbers.  At the snap on a punt, typically only the gunners release downfield, with the personnel on the line either having blocking assignments, or ineligible to run downfield until the punt is away.  This creates much more of a "broken field" for the returner.  If the punter is able to put good hangtime on his kick and the gunners are in a position to make a play, Jackson can simply call for a fair catch.  In situations where he did venture a return last season and little was there, he did a good job of getting out of bounds or just going down.  The risk of bodily harm is far less on punt returns in comparison to kick returns.

Furthermore, because players along the line on the punt coverage team are also trying to keep the return team from getting a free run at the punter, they have blocking responsibilities.  To ensure that the return team doesn't just run right over your line to get to the punter, teams are forced are trade speed for some bulk along the line. As a result, you have a mix of linebackers, tight ends, fullbacks, etc that are trying to track down a speedy guy like Jackson, which is a complete mismatch. 

As an example, take a look at Jackson's punt return TD against Carolina last year, and note the players that have a shot at bringing him down.  First he easily sidesteps the gunner, rookie CB Captain Munnerlyn (41).  Then, fullback Brad Hoover (45) basically has no shot as Jackson races right by him - Ditto that for long snapper J.J. Jansen (44).  A simple little cutback makes the punter John Baker (7) slip, and all that's left is an easy footrace with TE Dante Rosario (88) and LB James Anderson (50).  These are not players that are equipped to catch a guy with the speed of Jackson - i.e., mismatch.

3) Who else would return punts?  The next guy in line would be Jeremy Maclin.  Maclin, while very fast, lacks the shiftiness and vision that makes Jackson such an outstanding returner. Love Maclin as a receiver, but he's not the explosive playmaker that Jackson is, and if Maclin is returning punts for you, you're still risking injury to a starter anyway. So what about Ellis Hobbs? Nope, Hobbs has zero career punt returns in his career.

4) If you're the Eagles opponent, wouldn't you be thrilled if Jackson isn't back there? It was actually kind of remarkable that Jackson averaged 15+ yards per carry, especially since opposing punt coverage teams went to great lengths to pin him against the sidelines, or just simply punt the ball out of bounds.  Once you stop trying to kick bombs downfield, you're conceding field position.  Jackson is a weapon by mere presence alone, even if teams are kicking away from him to avoid a big return.

5) Bobby April - DeSean Jackson and David Akers aside, our special teams units stunk last year.  April was hired this offseason to fix that, and he is of course considered to be among the best special teams coaches in the NFL - Seems crazy to me to not give April a weapon like Jackson.

6) Aggressive wins.  If you play to not get hurt, you lose.  This is football - It's a physical game, and there will be injuries. If you keep DeSean Jackson as your punt returner, you can count on about 25 or so punt return opportunities.  Jackson had 62 receptions last year.  If you could guarantee 25 additional receptions to that total (87 catches), you'd be ecstatic, would you not?  Those 25 or so punt returns, in my opinion, are 25 more opportunities to get your best player with the football in his hands in open space.  You take that away, and you're not aggressively trying to win.

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I think I usually choose

to be more conservative than most when it comes to protecting against injuries.

Of course Jackson is the best option to return punts…he’s really the best punt returner in the NFL. So, do you use your best weapon, or do you protect him?

I go back and forth, but I had to vote “No” just to the nature of having guys twice his size charging at him full speed. He won’t deal with that as often on offense.

"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)

by jalarsen1 on Jul 24, 2010 10:37 AM EDT reply actions  

I feel strongly that it should be yes.

Point 6 is my favourite, this is goddam football you dont puss out because someone could get hurt.

And when we signed april the first thing I though was… can’t wait to see him use desean.

^Nights Of Cabiria

by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Jul 24, 2010 10:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Legitimate question

And I don’t think there’s a right answer.

I look at the Eagles’ handling of Westbrook for my cues on this, but I think its also wise to factor in who else can return kicks and the depth at WR.

I’d be okay with situational DJax returning, but you also have to note he’s taken very little abuse as full-time PR … He gets out of harm’s way usually if it’s not there.

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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Jul 24, 2010 10:44 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Westbrook was a different situation, he touched the ball a lot more then Jackson and he was pretty much the whole offense that isn’t the case now.

by The Legend on Jul 24, 2010 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

But similarities are there, in that he’s our most important offensive player besides the QB, that he’s explosive but kind of small to subject to extra NFL pounding.

I don’t think this is cut and dried. You could justify either position.

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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Jul 24, 2010 11:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I see

You made those points. So, um, carry on!

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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Jul 24, 2010 11:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He's so .....

Fast, he just runs away from people actualy everyone. What’s most impresive is the NFL is the biggest strongest fastest men on the planet and when you watch that video he’s picking up 2 yards of seperation every 10 yards.

by sowhatifitisasportste on Jul 24, 2010 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Absolutely

Special teams is very under rated, it used to REALLY help us in the early Reid/McNabb years — we always had stellar play.

Here’s another issue. how often do PRs get injured? IMO, unless you don’t fair catch when someone’s coming after you like a laser it’s pretty easy to run out of bounds or do what westbrook did and take a fall before a crunching hit

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Jul 24, 2010 10:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Westbrook and Marvin Harrison

Best I’ve ever seen at not taking hits straight on. Subtle but probably prolonged both careers

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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Jul 24, 2010 11:04 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I guess that sounds about right. I believe Jackson is the best one on the roster, after watching how talent has leaked recently from the Eagles.

by Guru506 on Jul 24, 2010 10:54 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree with all your points and it irritates me when people say we shouldn’t use Desean on PRs anymore. If they chose not to use him or Maclin though I have a feeling the next guy would be Demps not Hobbs since he has experience. Also probably my favorite play from last year was when the Giants tried pinning Jackson against the sidelines on Sunday Night.

by The Legend on Jul 24, 2010 10:56 AM EDT reply actions  

CAN WE GET THIS SEASON STARTED ALREADY???

That was such a hype up – I cant wait to see this new team in action!

Relating more to the topic at hand, He’s like Hester was during 06-07 except he’s taking those skills FROM the offense TO the special teams. I believe new coaching is really going to solidify that. The only thing that scares me with it is some a-hole lookin to make a name for himself is going to one day just launch his body at him with nothing other than intention to hurt him and if he connects…lets face it – he’s still undersized and a spear may take him out. While he’s young though, he’s so crazy fast that nobody seems to be able to even get a hand on him let alone get an opportunity to have him stand still long enough to hit him. Watch out for thos middle routes they’re talking about doing more of with Kolb….

by RucanorX on Jul 24, 2010 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Chris Clemons

was the worst on special teams. Sorry, I just watched the return against Carolina and had to get that out of my system.

by BigJakes111 on Jul 24, 2010 11:02 AM EDT reply actions  

It wouldn’t have surprised me if Bobby April said to Andy “We need to get this idiot off this team he is a lost cause”

by The Legend on Jul 24, 2010 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

How on earth did we manage to get Darryl Tapp for him? I’m still impressed we did that.

Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us. - C&H

by alcatraz0109 on Jul 24, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because we traded with the team that also traded for Charlie Whitehurst. You know, a team that isn’t very smart.

RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.

by Imp on Jul 24, 2010 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Haha!! That was a strange trade..maybe they see something we don’t

by jjrome on Jul 24, 2010 2:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I always look at stuff like that on replays too

I noticed Demps, Curtis & Avant on the field during the return :)

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Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Jul 24, 2010 3:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

This is very well summarized, I agree 100%.

by captain nodar on Jul 24, 2010 11:06 AM EDT reply actions  

stats?

Everyone assumes that punt returners are more likely to get injured than other players. Considering the nature of the play, it does make sense, but are there any stats to back it up? How much more likely is it that Jackson gets injured on a PR than a play at WR? or on a route over the middle? or in the Wildcat?

by phillyfan1978 on Jul 24, 2010 11:30 AM EDT reply actions  

Trade the Grammy plaques just to have my granny back
Member she had that bad hip like a fanny pack?

What the fuck does that mean Kanye?

DAT ASS!!

by DickMuffin on Jul 24, 2010 12:04 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

It means he misses his granny (who died) and he would give up all his Grammy’s to have her back. I’m sorry I can’t stop laughing at the absurd notion of putting this on this forum. lol. My sides hurt I am laughing so hard. I fucking love pure randomness. Maybe the fanny pack line is saying something like people with exccessively big asses have bad hips or something. lol. I got to stop. Good shit Dick.

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

"There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." Bruce Lee

"This fucking game is over!" Chuck Bednarik

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by Talon Talent on Jul 24, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

If that is what he means...

then what the hell is he looking at his granny’s saggy ass for?

DAT ASS!!

by DickMuffin on Jul 24, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol

Lil Waynes verse makes less sense.

UDDDDAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!

Η κόλαση δεν έχει μυστικά

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!!!!!!

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by Udalango on Jul 25, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't even get me started on Lil' Wayne.

You loose all “hood” credibility when you mention Kelsey Grammer in one of your raps.

DAT ASS!!

by DickMuffin on Jul 25, 2010 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The answer is an unequivocal yes.

Here’s why…
1. He’s the best offensive player on the team.
2. He’ll never take Westbrook’s type of abuse
3. He wants a big deal in free agency in 2 years, so he’s going out of bounds if he doesn’t break one, so he’s not gonna get hurt.
4. Because of the # of picks Kolb will throw, the offense will need a short field.
5. Because of the Eagles terrible secondary, the field position battle is going to be of paramount importance this year.
6. (A selfish one here)—because watching him return punts is the most fun you can have with your pants on.

...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.

Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer

by EvilBanner on Jul 24, 2010 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Why do you hate Kolb so much?

by sowhatifitisasportste on Jul 24, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I watched a lot of U of Houston games.

ESPN 2 can be so cruel. Between World’s Strongman feats and shitty third teir football, they leave no (Atlas) stone unturned when it comes to odd programming selections. To make a long story short, I spent many an afternoon laughing at that mickey mouse offense they’d run and I said to myself, “that guy is a white Andre Ware.” Then we drafted him…

...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.

Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer

by EvilBanner on Jul 24, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can't say i've watched Houston's games

but Kolb’s last season there he put up (in 14 games):

3809 yards, 30TD, 4INT, 67.6% completion rate, 114.4 QB rating, 8.8Y/A, 154 yards rushing and 4 rushing TD’s

That doesn’t quite scream “white Andre Ware”.

by Team Serbia on Jul 24, 2010 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Err

I confused Andre Ware for someone else. Your comparison makes sense (in that both him and Kolb put a good college stats) but I don’t think you can just throw away Kolb’s season based on the offense they ran.

I’ll be waiting for your haiku about Kolb’s package after this season :)

by Team Serbia on Jul 24, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kolb’s package?

Formerly Bye, Dawk :(

by JimmyK on Jul 24, 2010 9:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I wouldn't be suprised.

He already made one about Vick’s.

Killing a pit bull
Makes his member swollen up
He gets off on it.

DAT ASS!!

by DickMuffin on Jul 24, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

We made an agreement that EB would

praise Kolb’s package in a haiku is Kolb throws 4000 yards.

by Team Serbia on Jul 24, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's a recap
If Kolb throws for 4000 yards? I will write a poem that will, in great detail, discuss his voracious sexual appetite, his incredibly manful footballsmanship, and Andy Reid’s extraordinarily sized genitals. The poem will be no fewer than 40 lines. It may also include references to Kolb’s hog slaying hobby.

- EvilBanner

by Team Serbia on Jul 24, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

My answer is an unequivocal No

and that should give you an idea of what fans of other teams think of that return freak. We will kick the ball away from that guy every time he lines up back there – trust me.

by One.Cool.Customer on Jul 24, 2010 12:33 PM EDT reply actions  

All I can say is

These highlights just got me so pumped for this season!!

also I agree Jimmy

Let's get it Birds.

by homestar2281 on Jul 24, 2010 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Guarded yes here.

Use him in close games and develop other talent when ‘we’ are ahead. No use watching him get injured for a game we are winning.

Remember what happened to Hobbs last year. He was amazing until he got hurt. We could afford to lose Hobbs but we cannot afford to lose DeSean, no matter how good our receivers are. He’s just too much of a game changer.

by IggleGreen on Jul 24, 2010 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

I say yes, absolutely. You get your best weapon the ball whenever you can in situations he will excel in. After that first return for a TD teams will punt away from him so he will be safe there. if they don’t, he’ll make them pay again. git ’im da damn ball!!!!!!!!

"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins

"There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." Bruce Lee

"This fucking game is over!" Chuck Bednarik

"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" Mike Tyson

by Talon Talent on Jul 24, 2010 5:58 PM EDT reply actions  

so why did we even bring chad hall in the picture? anyone

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by EAGLES805 on Jul 25, 2010 1:56 AM EDT reply actions  

The Westbrook option

Let someone else do returns most the time and throw Jackson back there in clutch situations

by Smallbugger on Jul 25, 2010 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes

You’re throwing away 3-5 TD’s for the season if you don’t have him returning. Besides, if you don’t throw him back there, you’re probably using some one from the secondary where the team can’t exactly afford an injury. Not saying losing Hobbs would hurt as much as losing Desean, but if you’re going to be taking a risk with your punt returner anyway, might as well use the guy who’s the best in the league.

by running waters on Jul 25, 2010 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Not really

If Chad Hall makes the team, he would be a candidate. Demps too. But Jackson is the best punt returner in the league, so let hi do his thing. I just want him not returning when we’re up 20 in the 4th quarter.

by Team Serbia on Jul 25, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

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