Michael Vick Nightclub Shooting Incident News Roundup
by JasonB on Jun 26, 2010 2:01 AM EDT
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PrintSince the story broke early yesterday, news has tickled out about what had happened at the Virginia Beach nightclub and what Vick's role could have been in it. I'm just going to start from the beginning and take you up to everything we know now.
Falcons’ WR Roddy White says that he and Vick had left the party before the fight broke out.
"We were already gone by the time that stuff started happening, so I don’t know what’s going to go on with that or whatever, but we didn’t have anything to do with it," White said on Friday during a break at Vick's youth football camp
Police in Virginia beach then said that they do not regard Michael Vick as a suspect or person of interest in connection with the shooting that occurred outside of a nightclub that had hosted a birthday party for him.
The good news for Michael Vick this afternoon might be that the Virginia Beach police say he is "of no interest to us" as they investigate a shooting that occurred early this morning outside a restaurant where Vick reportedly had been celebrating his 30th birthday.
Police also said that witnesses and the alleged victim in the case were "very uncooperative."
It appears very unlikely that Vick will face any legal repercussions as a result of the incident. However, it remains to be seen what if any action the Eagles or NFL could take. Roger Goodell doesn’t require the same burden of proof that a prosecutor or police do. The mere fact that Vick was connected in any way with an incident like this could be enough for him to act.
That said, you would imagine that the league or team would need some sort of tangible evidence of wrongdoing to suspend or cut Vick. Whether that be a witness that comes forward or a video that surfaces… Something.
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For sake of this guy's life
Lets hope goodell doesnt do anything, since it seems Vick wasnt involved. Good for him.
by Desean Da Man on Jun 26, 2010 2:15 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
It's
hard to believe that he wasn’t involved. From what I’ve read Vicks cake was shoved in this guys face. Or the guy shoved Vicks cake in Vicks face. And the guy ends up shot. Vick might not of done it. Or even stuck around when it was going to be done. But someone from his side did it.
by MightyJoeBanner on Jun 26, 2010 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions
If memory serves me correct didn’t one or more of his “Friends” roll over on him to get reduiced jail time?
by sowhatifitisasportste on Jun 26, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Posted the below in another thread while this story went up
David Squires reports (or writes?) in his Daily Press column:
But the story goes that Quanis threatened to smash birthday cake in Vick’s face, or that he actually smashed the cake in Vick’s face. Another version is that someone smashed cake in Quanis’ face — or threatened to smash it in his face.
Anyway, the confrontation moved outside — where I’m told there were several still cameras and video cameras. Cooler heads did NOT prevail, and ‘Q’ was shot in the shopping center parking lot. It is unclear whether Vick was still around at the time of the shooting, but he was definitely not there when police arrived. ‘Q’ Phillips was in good condition at a Virginia Beach hospital on Friday morning.
Oh lawdy, don’t let this be over a piece of chocolate cake! That was the devil’s food y’all.
by One.Cool.Customer on Jun 26, 2010 2:18 AM EDT reply actions
Easily the dumbest and hardest to believe part of the story. Someone either wanted to or did smash cake in Vick’s face, or maybe the total opposite happened.
It’s just funny that a reporter would even run with that. If someone told me that, I’d just say “THanks, but why don’t you get back to me when you know something?”
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Yes vecause grown men shoot each other for cake
Hey thats my cake!
by Desean Da Man on Jun 26, 2010 3:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He was upset because he found out the cake was a lie.
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rofl
Knew you were an internet nerd
2010-11 Predictions:
Kevin Kolb will go to the probowl and complete >65% of passes.
Jeremy Maclyn will have more receptions than Miles Austin & Steve Smith
Graham will have the starting LDE spot tied up by week 5, win ROTY, and have >10 Sacks
11-5 finish.
by corn on the kolb on Jun 26, 2010 10:54 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I guess
it is the south and Vick is still black. Hopefully the Feds wrap this up fast. Two parole’s out on good behavior, in a place that serves alcohol, at the same place, hanging with people toting guns and one gets shot.
Parole rules:
-Cant loiter in the area of a place that sell alcohol.
-Can’t eat at, walk in to, go to the bathroom in, and def not have a Bday party in a place that sells alcohol.
-Can’t fraternize with any co defendants or any convicted felons. If you happen to be in the same place leave or your in violation.
-No weapons. Guns, knives, pepper spray, brass knuckles etc
Violating any above CAN result in full charges being brought back up and the full penalty being assessed.
by MightyJoeBanner on Jun 26, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Those were not terms. Nothing to do with being a in place that serves alcohol were terms of his parole.
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have to give props to one cool customer.
hilarious.
"it's like i tell my ex-wife, i never drive faster than i can see, and besides it's all in the reflexes." -Jack Burton, Big trouble in little China
let them eat cake.....
what?
"it's like i tell my ex-wife, i never drive faster than i can see, and besides it's all in the reflexes." -Jack Burton, Big trouble in little China
This sounds like such a typical philly shooting
- black guys get into a fight
- one of them has an escalade
- one shoots the other guy
- witnesses on a “no snitch” policy.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
ur such an ignorant retard
plus the shooting wasent in philly it was in virginia beach dipshit
by thegreatginzo on Jun 26, 2010 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe but he could of just left that alone
by jjrome on Jun 26, 2010 10:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Come on man don’t start with this
by jjrome on Jun 26, 2010 10:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Good point
Where was Marvin Harrason during all of this?
by sowhatifitisasportste on Jun 26, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
oh boy
Time to put Marc Bulger in speed dial .
At the least Vick is in violation of his parole. Some guys just never learn. Never. If he returned to 80% of his form he would have himself a job with a fat contract for the next 5-7 years and be set for life. He would go down in history as a ‘feel good’ story as a guy who was given a second chance and made the best out of it. Personally he could have whatever he wanted, bang a different hot chick every night etc. But instead he hangs out with the same jerkoffs that he got into the whole dog fighting mess to begin with. If hes conviceted of anything here then its safe to say he has learned nothing in prison, except to be more discreet. Its a damn shame.
Please Andy, Please can you stop with the Vick Experiment?
“The reports that say someone was shot at his party are not correct. The shooting occurred outside the place,” said Lawrence H. Woodward Jr., Michael Vick’s attorney. "Mike is not involved in any way. Michael left somewhere around 2 a.m.
So the report isn’t correct cause it happened outside his party, not “at” his party? If someone got shot on my front lawn, it would be at my house, yes.
Vick was not involved in any way cause he “left somewhere around 2 a.m.” Didn’t the shooting happen at 2:10 am? Wouldn’t that be “around 2 am”
I’m not saying that Vick Shot anyone, nor do I even think Vick shot anyone, but he should be nowhere near naything like that, and people like that. He is still trying to live his old lifestyle and HAS NOT CHANGED!!!! But we should give him a second chance right? Cause aparently no matter how many times you get involved in crap like this, it always a second chance that you need, not a third, fourth or in Vick’s case, ten millionth chance.
sigh… go back home, live your life that you aparently still wanna live, just keep outta my stand up organization, please
my only thing
On parole, why have a criminal (one you know for sure is because he was sentenced with you) anywhere near your celebration. This breaks your parole on its own. Whether or not you invted him, if there was a confronation, you’re autonmatically in the wrong.
Mike, I was rooting for you. I, like many others, saw enormous potiental in you, even back when you were a falcon. I wanted to see you change, and held out hope. But even though people say “innocent until proven guilty”, you’re at least guilty of parole violations.
2010-11 Predictions:
Kevin Kolb will go to the probowl and complete >65% of passes.
Jeremy Maclyn will have more receptions than Miles Austin & Steve Smith
Graham will have the starting LDE spot tied up by week 5, win ROTY, and have >10 Sacks
11-5 finish.
by corn on the kolb on Jun 26, 2010 10:59 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Vick will be gone
before training camp opens. You can bet the house. Get Feeley back (w/ his hot wife) for a future 5th rounder.
It's "Kolb"ering time!
I agree.
Vick will be gone. No great loss, a veteran backup will be around I am sure. Jeff Garcia still alive ?
Vick you are a fucking moron
Spent a long time in the pen, get a huge second chance and you STILL can’t act like a mature human being? Once a thug always a thug… See ya in the UFL Vick
Funny how some people are so quick to judge without knowing the facts and now that its been shown he had nothing to do with it they are quick to change their tone.
Fact: Vick is a convicted felon
Fact: Vick is on probation
Fact: Vick had a party at a night club
Fact: Another convicted felon, who is a known associate of Vick, was shot outside the club.
Fact: Vick left shortly before the shooting occurred.
Fact: Vick is on a very short leash with the NFL Commish.
Fact Roger Goodell is a major hard-ass when it comes to second-chance players popping up in the headlines related to crime.
I repeat: Vick will be gone before training camp.
It's "Kolb"ering time!
Sounds more like what you are saying is
Because he was around when something bad happened he should be suspended.
yes
he put himself there, he should not have even been associating with those people
it wasn’t like he was just walking down the street, and some guy shot some other guy. It was his birthday party, so yes, he was involved. He could have been at a horse race in kentucky, if he had a birthday party in his name, and all that crazy stuff happened, he was involved.
All because its his birthday party
Doesn’t mean he is involved. I’ve been to a Yung Berg birthday party and I ain’t never met the guy in my life. And another thing, you say he shouldn’t be associating with those people. Why don’t you try telling that to those people then? When telling that to a black person, it doesn’t register. Simply telling them to stay away 9/10 is going to be unsuccessful. I remember a guy from my past started trying to hang around me when I got my scholarship and I told him to leave me alone and stay they hell away from me and 2 weeks later he shot me in the shoulder. Now think he is a celebrity, if he has a birthday party everyone in the city is going to know about it and probably half the city would come. Roddy White was there, is their any talk about him being suspended? Because he was there does that mean he was involved too. As much as people like you want to just chastise without knowing everything that happened, learn that it doesn’t solve anything. There is always 2 sides to a story. Remember, we have been hearing our side from the O so reliable media.
Not should be suspended
But he will be. You forget, the commish isn’t a jury or a court. He doesn’t need a conviction, a confession or an expert witness. He can suspend Vick for as long as he damn well pleases for just being there because he is on maybe the tightest leash in the NFL.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
should be suspended
Due to breaking parole. Associating with known fellons.
2010-11 Predictions:
Kevin Kolb will go to the probowl and complete >65% of passes.
Jeremy Maclyn will have more receptions than Miles Austin & Steve Smith
Graham will have the starting LDE spot tied up by week 5, win ROTY, and have >10 Sacks
11-5 finish.
by corn on the kolb on Jun 26, 2010 6:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
The guy who was shot… was the guy who was also convicted with him of dog fighting, and as such, is a known fellon. At the party, is associating. They shouldn’t have been anywhere near each other and each of them knows that.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Being at the same place as someone
Does not mean associating with them. If that was the case. Everyone in the United Center was “associated” with Michael Jordan. I went to a bunch of the same parties as Eric Berry, but does that mean I associated with him?
It all boils down to, neither one of them should ever be in the same place!! Ever! And that’s a mutual thing because they both can get in trouble for it. It’s not like Phillips didn’t know what the party was for and it’s not like Vick had no idea the guy was there, he knew. That alone is enough for the commish to punish his ass. Coincidence is all Roger needs to suspend him and that’s exactly what he got.
Besides, it’s just retarded that this even happened. Vick should have known better. He just bitch slapped Tony Dungy in the face, and few do that and get away with it. And even if Phillips came unannounced, Vick is still partially to blame, someone in his situation shouldn’t have parties in public locations like that where just anyone can buy a ticket and get in. He knows he’s under a microscope, he should have had the party at his house where the guest list could have been strictly enforced.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
by Rogue Nine on Jun 27, 2010 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ok
First, lets get mister merriam webster’s take on the word at hand
Main Entry: 2as·so·ciate
Pronunciation: \ə-ˈsō-shē-ət,sē, -ˌāt, -shət\
Function: adjective
Date: 14th century
1 : closely connected (as in function or office) with another
2 : closely related especially in the mind
3 : having secondary or subordinate status
Used as an adjective, and in the first definition, Phillips attended Vick’s party, or function. Ok, maybe they weren’t sucking each other off, but by definition, they were associated in the peticular night in question.
I didn’t get an invite to his party, I’m sure Phillips wasn’t just driving down the street and said, “hey, I wonder if thats a good place to hang out.”
The article states that he was shot at Vicks party, excuse me, “outside” his party.
No he didn't
He didn’t just drive down the street and say thats a good place to hang out. Of course he had prior knowledge. But does that mean he was personally invited? No. They were associated with the function, not with each other in particular. I mean can you expect Vick to be liable for everyone at the party? No its not possible. I’m not saying its not that Vick had nothing to do with it, personally I don’t believe in coincidence myself. What I am saying is get the facts straight before you draw your conclusions. Phillips sounds like the typical stereotype of a boisterous black guy that ever black person tries to get away from. They even say
Police also said that witnesses and the alleged victim in the case were “very uncooperative.”
That lets me know everything I need to know right there about Phillips. Its obvious they type of guy he is. I can almost guarantee that that wasn’t the first time he was shot, that wasn’t the first time he was involved in a violent altercation, and that he probably is very hard headed and simple minded. That you can’t blame on Vick. Now even Roddy White is saying him and Vick were no where around the shooting where and when it occurred. So its not just Vick’s words alone. He has another persons words to justify his.
Oh and trust me. I guarantee it happened outside the party. Why? Because no club owner, security, or other people who watch over the club allow that shit to happen on the inside if they can prevent it. So they are quick to kick people outside of the club when something like that goes down. Its called avoiding a “Nigga Moment” as we refer it too. I’ve been kicked out of numerous clubs because the people I was hanging around with had their street mentality kick in when we are in the club so they get rid of us.
I’ll be honest. I hope this gets Vick kicked off the team. I’ll always be an Eagles fan, and I was not going to give up rooting for the other 52 guys on the team because of one Vick, but I hate having to root for him.
As long as he seemed remorseful and kept a clean imagine and said the right things, I didn’t mind having him on the team and cheering for him because he had done his time and was trying to get his life back in order and that’s fine. This however changes things and I hope he’s gone, mostly because if he gets away with it, he’s setting a bad example for the team which has a lot of young guys still figuring out what their limits are in the NFL.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
I think you guys are jumping the gun alittle…. Maybe this guy crashed vicks party and vick did do the right thing and leave immediately when he noticed this guy…
Are you saying that if you are on probation and you happen to be at the same mall as another felon that you are associated with them? That is the most retarded thing ive ever heard.
Innocent until proven guilty
Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.
Leave your opinions at home, this isnt about opinions its about the facts which at the second are not available becides whats called " Hearsay"
I think the point you are missing is that Vick isn’t facing a court of law at the moment, he’s facing the court of Roger who really can do whatever the hell he wants. Look at Big Ben, was he convicted of anything? Nope. Did he still get suspended even as an innocent human being? Yep. The commish doesn’t need proof, probable cause or an alibi. He can suspend Vick for as long as he wants for any transgression. When if comes to the NFL and player discipline, it isn’t as much about facts as you’d think, opinions come into it a lot.
This guy, by the reports, got into the VIP area at a party in which there were clearly guns present, Vick knew he was there and you don’t just get into the VIP area by crashing it. And you can say it’s not Vick’s fault if the guy crashed all you want, but there are a lot of risks involved when you are in Vick’s situation with the commish, the law and his fans and you decided to have a birthday bash in a public location.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
Also setting a bad example? Did Marvin harrison set a bad example in his “shooting” fiasco.. I mean , useing the logic of most of the people posting, marvin was CLEARLY involved because it was his club. Also the little old lady on the corner a block down is a suspected accomplis because of her houses location to crime…
I thank god people like you all dont make laws and run for judicial positions. We would all be clearly fucked
Umm you know that Marvin is the lead suspect in that case right? They traced the bullets back to his own gun and the victim claimed it was Marvin. He hasn’t been charged due to the lack of witnesses and the fact that the victim was shot and killed a year later, not far from Marvin’s bar and Marvin also appears to be the lead suspect in that case as well. So yeah, I’d say Marvin is setting a pretty bad example. Try again.
Sooner or later NFL players are going to realize that public appearances are dangerous for their careers and their lives. I don’t see it in any other sport really but NFL players are getting involved one way or another in a lot of violent crimes and they are often in public places like clubs. It would be best for them if they just avoided these situations altogether, at least during their playing careers so they can make their money. It takes a lot of stones for someone in Vick’s position to have a birthday bash in a club where anyone can buy admission and it doesn’t set a great example for our tons of young talent. Maybe Desean doesn’t hang around bad people the way Vick or Pacman do but there is always a risk involved because who knows what the people you are with are involved in, I bet Darrent Williams didn’t expect to get shot by the Crips after they got in an altercation with the people he was with, Javon Walker, Brandon Marshall, Carmelo Anthony and Kenyon Martin.
If nothing had happened at Vick’s party, Desean could look at that and go “Man, that dude is on probation and a short leash and he can go out and have a huge birthday party at a club and nothing bad happened.” It’s positive reinforcement for him to go out an do the same and while his situation isn’t the same, I’d rather my star wideout not be tempting the fates and going out to the clubs on a regular basis.
"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.
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There was a non-fatal shooting outside of a nightclub In Virginia Beach where a birthday party was being held for Eagles QB Michael Vick.
The alleged victim in the case, who was taken to the hospital in "good" condition(as good as one could be after being shot in the leg I guess), was actually a co-defendant of Vick's in the federal dog-fighting case that sent him to prison. The victim, identified as Quanis Phillips, was sentenced to 21 months in prison for his part in the dog-fighting ring.
Vick's attorney Larry Woodward said that Vick was neither involved in nor was he present at the time of the shooting.
The Eagles then released a statement on the matter. "We are aware of the incident that occurred in Virginia early this morning and are in the process of gathering all of the facts. Until then, we will not have any comment on this matter."