Philadelphia Eagles Game Changing Offseason Moves: Joselio Hanson: Starter or Not?
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Okay, so admittedly this isn't the most current of news stories, but it should be an interesting topic for debate in these slow times. If you remember back in May, Joselio Hanson spread the word that he was working hard to become the new starting right cornerback opposite Asante Samuel. Then, when OTAs ended last week, Joselio Hanson was interviewed by the folks at PhiladelphiaEagles.com and reiterated his desire to win the starting position for the 2010 season:
"My goal for 2010 is to be the starting right corner for the Philadelphia Eagles and to get a lot more turnovers for this team. I feel like I left some out there last year and I want to capitalize on all of them...Playing outside feels a lot more natural for me. I've been playing it all my life so I love it out there. And, it seems like the guys outside get a lot more balls thrown at them. So I like that more too."
Ever since the right cornerback position became vacant though Sheldon Brown's trade to the Browns, speculation has swirled as to who might become the new starter. Many considered Ellis Hobbs to be the most likely replacement due to his two years of starting experience with the Patriots, but Hobbs is still recovering from season-ending surgery to repair a herniated disc in his neck.
Since Hobbs sat out OTAs and Asante Samuel missed time as well, Hanson, Macho Harris, and Dimitri Patterson got a significant amount of time to run with the first team defense. However, when the nickel package was on the field, Macho Harris moved outside and Hanson slid over to his familiar nickel position. Now, you could read into this and say that Sean McDermott is leaning towards keeping Hanson at nickel, but training camp hasn't even started yet and, in the words of McDermott himself, every job is up for grabs. The best eleven defensive players are the ones that will be on the field come week one.
In the meantime, though, we can take a look at how Hanson has performed when he has started - which has been nine times in his four years as an Eagle. If he's really as comfortable outside as he says he is, that should be reflected in his performance, right? Let's take a look:
2006: Week 4 vs. Green Bay (W 31-9)
6 tackles, 4 passes defended, 0 TDs given up
2007: Week 2 vs. Washington (L 12-20)
6 tackles, 1 pass defended, 0 TDs given up
2007: Week 3 vs. Detroit (W 56-21)
5 tackles, 1 pass defended, 2 TDs given up
2007: Week 12 vs. New England (L 28-31)
9 tackles, 0 passes defended, 0 TDs given up
2007: Week 16 vs. New Orleans (W 38-23)
4 tackles, 1 pass defended, 0 TDs given up
2008: Week 9 vs. Seattle (W 26-7)
2 tackles, 0 passes defended, 0 TDs given up
2008: Week 13 vs. Arizona (W 48-20)
4 tackles, 1 pass defended, 1 INT, 0 TDs given up
2008: Week 16 vs. Washington (L 3-10)
3 tackles, 0 passes defended, 0 TDs given up
2009: Week 15 vs. San Francisco (W 27-13)
5 tackles, 1 pass defended, 0 TDs given up
So what can we take away from that? Well, for one, the Eagles are 6-3 when Hanson has stepped in at RCB - not a bad record for being down at least one defensive starter. Granted, Hanson hasn't wowed with many turnovers or big hits, but his production has been solid. Also, while with the Eagles, he has never missed a game due to injury (not including his ridiculous diuretic suspension) which should be a big factor in a consistently injury-plagued defense. Are these factors enough to propel Hanson to a permanent starting position, assuming his training camp goes well? Hanson certainly thinks so:
"If I make the plays on the ball in training camp, they're not going to have a choice [but to start me]. If I'm playing the best at the right corner, I'll [deserve to be the starter]."
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Tackles
It’s hard to evaluate a CB by looking at his tackles. Is that him being aggressive in run support? Is he swarming to the ball and helping his teammates? Is he racking up tackles because it’s his man making the catch?
he's not a good tackler, too small, plain and simple
hanson is a dimeback
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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Jun 15, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, and Hobbs is great at tackling right…lmfao.
And Macho can’t do anything…not my first choice, but as it stands, Hanson should start imo.
by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Jun 16, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions
did i say hobbs is a good tackler??
ROFL!!!! its so funny
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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Jun 16, 2010 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Well you never said he was a good tackler, but I think it’s pretty clear that if Hanson is a dime back in your opinion because of his size and tackling ability, that you think 2 cbs we have are better at tackling – Hobbs included since him and Hanson are the same size which leads me to believe that you think Hobbs is a better tackler.
It’s calling implying something.
by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Jun 17, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
well he's maybe better than Hanson
neither is good, and I dont like our corners except Asante…. I’ll wait and see on Macho.
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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Jun 17, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a strange feeling
That Lindley’s going to start at RCB by midseason at the latest.
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Im with you DSmith i’ve been thinking he’ll be the starting corner sometime in the season since i’ve watched his workout tape and highlight reels
by eaglesforlife on Jun 15, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
They didn't draft Lindley to start right away
Ideally, he’d stay lower (4th or 5th) on the depth chart until he gains some experience but hey, stranger things have happened. Just ask Macho Harris.
I’m not comforted by this thought, but I feel like Macho will be the starter to open the season.
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I have the same feeling.
I don't know what it is about your face,
[holds up fist]
but I just wanna deliver one of these right in your suck hole.
I think he makes a better nickel
but right now I think he might be our best compliment to Asante at RCB
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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Jun 15, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Macho.
Really?!?!?
Is this the consensus because I’m sorry to all the Macho fans out there, but I thought he completely sucked last year…especially towards the end of the year. Granted he was converting to a new position, but I still think he’s garbage.
I honestly don’t have faith in any other CB on our current roster to start opposite Asante.
As far as I’m concerned, our D-line is playing RCB and FS this year.
by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Jun 16, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought Hanson would be the odds on favorite to be the starter when we traded Sheldon I was kind of surprised to hear most people believed it would be Hobbs. I would be fine if on opening day Joselio Hanson was the starting RCB
They call me The Professor.
I don't like the duo of Hanson/Asante
too undersized and poor tackling on each side.
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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Jun 15, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Please explain to me how you know that Hobbs or Macho is better at tackling than Hanson.
They’re all not that great at tackling, but I think Hanson is the better overall CB.
by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Jun 16, 2010 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
you won't catch me paying compliments to smellis hobbs
Macho is a better tackler than Harris imo.
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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Jun 16, 2010 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
*than Hanson
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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Jun 16, 2010 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
well then we are in agreement.
Plus I think we can ALL agree, that besides Asante, we just don’t have a decent starter out of the lot of our cbs right now – which is a little concerning.
by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Jun 17, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
AGREED
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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Jun 17, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Hanson...
Is pretty slow. Granted, he looks like Usain Bolt when you compare him to the plodding Macho Harris and the thrice crippled Tito Jackson. He will win the starting job by default. And then get raped badly every week.
...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.
Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer
Eh, he's got a point
Hanson is a little on the slow side for a CB, and Macho is way too slow to play on the outside in my opinion. I’m fine with them playing with Macho at nickelback, but that’s as far as the Eagles should take it. I think Dsmith is right about him being suited for SS.
Might he be suited for the Raiders?
Oops, they want FAST DBs…
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jun 17, 2010 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions
I’ll have no problem if Jose starts but right now I think it is Hobbs job to lose. I kind of find it interesting that people say Jose is too short to play on the outside yet he is the same heighth as Hobbs.
too small, not short
for me he doesn’t offer enough in run support to be on the field for that many snaps.
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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Jun 15, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Jose is the ideal Nickel.
He can cover but he’s not too fast and he’s patient and is good at handling the slot. I’d like for him to be the starter at RCB but that leaves nickel weak as I feel Hobbs is suited for outside or dime. That means Macho is the nickel and i dont know anyone who wants that. I think its Asante and Hobbs with Jose at nickel, Lindley at dime, Macho at backup nickel and FS and Dmitri at back up dime and special teams.
I kind of want Macho in the nickel
I think he should see significant snaps this year, we need to find out what we have in he and demps this year.
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by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Jun 15, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Lindley! Lindley! Lindley!
Just give the guy a crash course
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
Yikes, CB is not a good position for that. But the Colts and Dolphins had some success with it last year, so who knows? haha.
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KC had some luck with it 2 years ago if im correct...
I mean coach him up, and let him do his thing…
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
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I think
Macho is actually our best Nickle back right now… I would have no problem with Hanson at RCB. Most CB are small I can’t really think of any big ones…
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by Humble Dragons on Jun 15, 2010 11:52 PM EDT reply actions
true
most are like anywhere from 5’10 to 6 ft
by thegreatginzo on Jun 16, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Eric Allen
Eric Allen_Height: 5-10 Weight: 190
Joselio Hanson _Height: 5-9 Weight: 185
Both from Southern Cali too I think, too bad Joselio doesn’t have Eric’s speed.
BTW Macho is a good player, you don’t start as a rookie if you don’t have some kind of talent, I don’t understand where all the hate comes from.

If Macho is our best nickle CB
We’re in trouble. He was horrible in coverage last year, and him guarding Tony G is overblown. He didn’t make one play last year in coverage, and was constantly exploited. He could barely beat out Sean Jones as they played practically the same amount of snaps. And Sean Jones was the epitome of what a horrible safety is.
Macho sucks.
If he didn’t serve as a backup for both safety and corner, his ass would be cut.
by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Jun 16, 2010 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
so
tell me again, why did we trade sheldon brown?
"Don't Give Up... Don't Ever Give Up!" - Jim Valvano
(unless it's terminal)
good point.
Well, it’s because we have his incumbent waiting in the wings like Sheldon/Lito were before Vincent/Taylor.
Wait a second….
Looks like we forgot that step this time around…
by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Jun 17, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s what I said when they let Bobby and Troy go
by sowhatifitisasportste on Jun 17, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
More ridiculous Macho Harris love
Honestly I don’t get. He was horrible as KR, made no real impact on special teams coverage, was exploited badly in coverage most of the year, and was arguably the worst player on the field the last week of the regular season vs. Boys (which is saying alot given how poorly the whole team played).
Now granted he was put in a tough position to succeed last year but there is no way he performed well by any stretch. Given his limited ability on special teams, he better show he can cover at the nickel coverage spot or this will likely be his last year in the NFL.
Thank you MG77.
I was thinking the same thing…
I didn’t realize so many Eagles fans were also big VaTech fans…because I don’t understand it either. (only reason I could come up with)
As I said somewhere above, If he wasn’t a backup for multiple positions, he wouldn’t and shouldn’t make this team.
by 5 plus 10 equals 6 on Jun 17, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
You guys, I’m not seeing much love. I mostly see that people think he sucks, or at best he’d be an adequate or good nickel CB. I didn’t see one person say he should be our starting #2 CB. And I like his potential, I still don’t see much love for him.
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I'm hoping next year's top pick is a Cornerback.
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