The New Era (that doesn't directly relate to the Eagles)
First of, a very solid draft by the Eagles this year. Hopefully the defense shapes up this year. Also this posts main goal is to give something fresh to read during this very dry time in the offseason.
The NFL is one of the biggest sports around. From the die hard fans like the ones on this blog and many others to the casual fans that are captivated by the big names like Drew Brees, Jerry Rice, and LaDainian Tomlinson. Many of these big names define periods of the NFL, and as transition takes place, names begin to slide and young faces are in the rise. Like as the 1990's era was captivated by Emmitt Smith, the new era of the 2000's kicked of with LaDainian Tomlinson while Emmitt Smith faded to the back-burners of the NFL. Well my friends, the days of LaDainian Tomlinson, Brian Westbrook, Donovan McNabb, Tom Brady, and Randy Moss are coming to their final years. Yes, the NFL is into it's transition to its newest era.
LaDainian Tomlinson is in his final stages of his career, Westbrook's career is basically over, Clinton Portis is over the age hump, and Terrell Owens is trying to find a home. These big name players and more are dwindling as the youth begin to outshine the superstars of the old. Even the mighty Peyton Manning is showing signs. Of course he isn't on the decline and had a very impressive year leading his team to the Superbowl. But he isn't getting better. I view him in sagnation in play and stats. This year he threw 33 TD's and 16 INT's. While that is a very good ratio and is one of the highest amounts Peyton has thrown in his career; that is also the highest number of interceptions he has thrown in 6 years. Tom Brady, another superstar, is slowing down. Yes he was coming of a knee injury last year. But his numbers have stayed the same from 2002 to 2009 excluding 2007 (their almost undefeated season). Basicly Tom and Peyton are stagnate. Show me gamefilm that show that their play has improved from the mid 2000's (2004-2007).
Teams realize this and are going younger. The Eagles are one of the many teams that are doing this.
Here are the players that I believe that will take over the league in a few years as the faces of the new era on offense. All are top 10 at each position in a couple of year (3-4)
Quarterbacks
1. Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay - This kid is prime for the big time and become one of the best quarterbacks for the Packers and the league
2. Drew Brees, New Orleans - Drew Brees will continue to be on of the leaders in the league as the passer
3. Philip Rivers, San Diego - Rivers will continue to shine as the Chargers shift from runners to passers
4. Joe Flacco, Baltimore - The draft pick from two years ago will lead the Ravens to a contender to a dynasty like the Patriots and Brady
5. Matt Ryan, Atlanta - Vick who?
6. Tony Romo, Dallas - Romo will continue to be a great quarterback, but that doesn't mean the Cowboys will be winning any championships anytime soon
7. Matthew Stafford, Detroit - Things in Detroit are turning around like General Motors. And Matthew Stafford will lead the turn around from jokes to contenders
8. Peyton Manning, Indianapolis - Still in the top ten, but will continue slipping from the prasied number one quarterback in the NFL
9. Tom Brady, New England - Like Manning, in the top ten, but unlike Manning will have a more drastic slide
10. Kevin Kolb, Philadelphia - Yes, our very own in the top ten in a couple of years. He will bring us a championship and be one of the greatest west coast quarterbacks
Running backs
1. Adrian Peterson, Minnesota - Peterson holds onto his throne although faces a challenge from "every coaches dream"
2. Chris Johnson, Tennessee - Competes with Peterson for number one, but will still be one of the best
3. Ray Rice, Baltimore - The next best thing to Chris Johnson and Adrian Peterson, he is a powerful runner and a dangerous receiver like Johnson
4. DeAngelo Williams, Carolina - The underrated running back of the era becomes the superstar that he deserves to be
5. Steven Jackson, St. Louis - One of the bright spots of this year and will be the key to the Rams success in the new era
6. Michael Turner, Atlanta - Becomes a superstar, but is cut out of the top five
7. Shonn Greene, New York - The Jets must know they have something special with Greene if they were to release Jones and Washington, two guys ahead of him on the depth chart a year ago.
8. Jammal Charles - Like the Rams, one of the few players on the Chiefs that were exceptional
9. Frank Gore- Also will see some slipping as the old fade away
10. MJD - While still young, the running backs above will see much more production in the league as he will be approaching an "old" age in the NFL
Receivers
1. Andre Johnson, Houston - The face of the franchise, a beastly WR that's quiet? That's unheard of!
2. Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona - Will make Leinart a better quarterback than he is and will make consistent numbers without Kurt Warner there.
3. Calvin Johnson, Detroit - Stafford to Johnson will be as popular as Manning to Harrison
4. Brandon Marshall, Miami - If he can stay out of trouble, then he will be a HOF
5. DeSean Jackson, Philadelphia - Will probably be the most explosive player in the league for many years and will have more big play ability than any others on this list
6. Greg Jennings, Green Bay - Rodgers to Jennings becomes Brady to Moss
7. Anquan Boldin, Baltimore - If he flourished in Arizona, he will thrive in Baltimore as the number one guy
8. Santonio Holmes, New York - Will be the next best explosive player in the NFL and will give a legitimate threat to Sanchez
9. Roddy White, Atlanta - Garcia to Owens, wait no...McNabb to Owens, wait no...Romo to Owens, no...Fitzpatrick to Owens? Nah, jkjk. But all the good ones are taken.
10. Miles Austin, Dallas - The best reciver for the Cowboys for the up and coming era
What do you think, are these guys going to lead the charge in the near future?
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Some of the players on your list are a little long in the tooth and probably won’t see the middle of the decade.
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Sorry ment to add "good post though"
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by no1pipelayer on May 14, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions
How has Peyton showed signs?
He gets hit less than Farve and farve is still going strong. Peyton hasnt missed an entire game in his career so I doubt he is on the decline just yet.
But other wise yes the shift is coming
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Miles?
Guy has had one good year. He could easily join this list, but he’s not quite an “era definer” at this point. One more year without regressing and I’ll admit he’s elite.
you dont think miles is going to keep producing for the next 5 years…?
by rainvillefromottawa on May 14, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
can’t make the sure judgement that he will based off one year. Does he look like he will? Yes I believe so (as much as that sucks) but you can’t make it a for sure thing yet. As a matter of fact, on the WR list the only sure things (because they have done multiple times now) are A. Johnson, L. Fitzgerald, R. White, B. Marshall and A. Boldin. All the others have more to prove. It is a good list though. All have star quality. I am still convinced that Maclin will be better then Jackson though. But thats TBD.
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by Talon Talent on May 15, 2010 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions
why would we think that Miles would keep producing like that for the next 5 years, honestly what has he done other than last year. His highest total yards were 278 and most TDs is 3.
Right now he’s Roy Williams 2.0 until he repeats this success.
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This guy has tree trunks for legs
one of the most powerfull WR in the league easy, unless he’s been losing weight im sure he’ll be bowling over cb’s next year
by rainvillefromottawa on May 17, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
what does it matter he did before...?he did it.
and ya 278 in a game is fuckion insane not many receivers will ever get close.he’s game is his body and he’s not getting any smaller so i see him competing for a while.
by rainvillefromottawa on May 18, 2010 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
ugh you really are lost aren’t you.
278 in a game is fuckion insane not many receivers will ever get close
278 was his total yardage from 2008, I’m assuming you were referring to his 250 yards against the Chiefs yea I guess it’s impressive. Kevin Curtis put up 221 against the Lions in 2007 so you see where that argument ends.
DeSean Jackson put up 149 on the Chiefs Steve Smith 134, Vincent Jackson 142, Sims-Walker 147, Hines Ward 128, Antonio Gates 118, and finally Jabar Gaffney put up 213 on them so excuse me if I’m not overly impressed with a guy who was thrown to 15 times coming up with 10 catches for 250 yards against the 22nd ranked pass defense in the NFL.
he’s game is his body and he’s not getting any smaller
Finally who really gives a fuck about his size. This is why I call him Roy Williams 2.0, RW had 1 good season and people were ready to anoint him the next Jerry Rice and then he fell flat on his face. Oh it’s because he was in Detroit then he comes to Dallas and look … Bumtown.
Where was his size in the first 3 years of his career? DeSean Jackson didn’t need size to be successful. How does him being 6’3" mean that he will continue to be good?
Miles Austin went for over 100 yards against the Chiefs, Falcons, Raiders, Giants, and the Saints. That’s the 22, 28, 7, 15, and 26 ranked pass defenses. So 1 good game against a top 10 pass defense which is also arguably one of the worst teams in the NFL.
He may continue to be a great receiver but I’m not buying it until I see him continue this success.
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stats, stats, stats. st louis was one of the worst but ya dont see people blowing by atogwe do ya?were talking about WR you’re taking in account the whole goddamn defense.wide receivr faces DB.so go check those stats then get back to me.
by rainvillefromottawa on May 20, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
no lol i just don't have time to gather up all the stats.
If you dont recognize austin as a very big threat your a looney!
by rainvillefromottawa on May 21, 2010 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions
desean…maybe he didnt need size but he sure as hell needed speed.
by rainvillefromottawa on May 21, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions
and thats a bad thing?
When your receiver has enough speed, agility, and acceleration to make everybody else on the field look like they are jogging? I’ll take that big play ability any day of the week.
"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins
"There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." Bruce Lee
"This fucking game is over!" Chuck Bednarik
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" Mike Tyson
by Talon Talent on May 21, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions
that’s not what i was implying at all
by rainvillefromottawa on May 22, 2010 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions
10th?!!!
I sincerely hope he’s better than romo. I also think you’re overrating Ryan and Stafford. based on what are they better than Kolb? Draft position?
Also MJD should be MUCH higher
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It's just too early
to tell with Kolb. If he keeps up the level that he showed last year, I think we have a real winner. But that is still an ‘if’.
Also Ryan has had some success in this league already. Stafford just looks like he has that special something. He looks like he can be the true blue leader that Detroit needs. Kolb will probably be higher then 10th, but the list is still solid.
"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins
"There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." Bruce Lee
"This fucking game is over!" Chuck Bednarik
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" Mike Tyson
by Talon Talent on May 15, 2010 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Stafford's a tremendous talent
who didn’t get much to go his way in his first year because he and Megatron were injured and he was cursed with a talent-deprived/injured team.
I can see the Lions being a 10-win team in 2-3 years. They certainly look to be turning a corner.
And with Kolb, it’s too early to tell. He could be the toast of the town or just… toast. I really think the odds are in his favor to be a very good QB but there’s so much uncertainty.
Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.
by alcatraz0109 on May 15, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Good Read But
1) I’ll take Chris Johnson over Peterson any day. the man had 2006 yards in 2009
2) As much as i love the local Rutgers Guy, Ray Rice will never be a top 5 RB in the NFL
3) Sidney Rice is a beast
4) Kolb will be better than Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco. Yup i said it
5) I know he could be a rapist, but Ben Roethlisberger isn’t going anywhere. Maybe
6) Marques Colston is a Beast
"I'm kinda annoyed right now...I was with the Eagles for four years, I was cheating for four years...nobody covered it!!" -Freddie Mitchell on Tiger Woods:
I have to say I disagree with these...
2) As much as i love the local Rutgers Guy, Ray Rice will never be a top 5 RB in the NFL
Um, Ray Rice did pretty fucking good last year for the Ravens late in the Season.. Hes the best Dual threat RB since Westy most likely.. The dude will be top 5.
5) I know he could be a rapist, but Ben Roethlisberger isn’t going anywhere. Maybe
You can only pay off the cops so many times till you get the one good cop who’s not in it for money… In which case he’s F.U.B.A.R.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
Good Cop.... Isn't that an Oxymoron
1)Chris Johnson
2)AP
3)Steven Jackson
4)DeAngelo Williams
5)Maurice Jones-Drew
I dont see where you could fit Ray Rice in there.
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That's simple.
Steven Jackson just had back surgery, he will undoubtedly see a drop in production and whatnot.
DeAngelo Williams was outshined by Stewart late last season, we will begin to see the majority of the carries go to Stewart.
Maurice Jones-Drew, he really didnt do that great last year, I see him dropping off this year…
There’s a chance that Rice works his way up as far as 5.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
sorry mis type 5=3
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
Wild Eagle
Agree on Jackson and Williams, but MJD was a beast last year. MJD was Jacksonville’s offense. Second most rushing TD’s in NFL for 2009.
1391 yds, 15 TD’s. on 312 attempts, that’s 4.5 yards a carry.
53 receptions for 374 yds and a TD as well. I’d hate to seem him do great.
"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins
"There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." Bruce Lee
"This fucking game is over!" Chuck Bednarik
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" Mike Tyson
by Talon Talent on May 15, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
Well I never saw them because they were blacked out lol...
NVM, none the less I think MJD will drop off due to the amount of carries and his running style really.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
Ehh
Didn’t they say the same thing about AP’s running style?
Yes however AP is pretty big and younger...
MJD is strong and stout however his stature is suspect… And he’s getting older.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
Both MJD and Peterson are 25 years old. Plus, MJD has 842 carries in his four year career, while Peterson has 915 carries in his three years career.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
The size thing is a little worrsiome, but as the one magazine I read last year said, " MJD is built like a fire hydrant " I like that comparison. He’s like the Mugsy Bogues of the NFL. People keep doubting his size till he drops a 76 yard run on them for a TD.
"I will never have my best season," Brian Dawkins
"There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." Bruce Lee
"This fucking game is over!" Chuck Bednarik
"Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth" Mike Tyson
by Talon Talent on May 15, 2010 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Honestly, I find height to be overrated among running backs. It’s not how tall that effects the running back, it’s how big they are. Westbrook was never a tall back, yet he was always had 200+ pounds on him, same with MJD. It also why Darren Sproles is not a good back; not because he’s short, it is because he is 185 soaking wet.
RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.
Jones-Drew would be great in our offense...
yes i know that was random but its true
Desean is Rampage Jackson on a rampage outside of the cage
by birdsflyinhigh2590 on May 17, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Jackson, turner, and Gore in particular are gonna be hard-pressed to be in the top 10 in 3-4 years, due to their running style/age relationship. Old + bruiser = sharp decline ~28-29.
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Jackson
As much as I love Jackson, I have to agreed with DS10. Jackson will only be top ten as long as his little legs can keep him speeding along as fast as he is. He doesn’t have the height or the strength to wrestle the ball from defenders so I don’t think he’s going to have a particularly long career. Once he get’s old enough or injured bad enough to slow down, he will become average.
He is still talented enough to snatch the ball away from defenders if he gets the chance, but if it ever comes down to fighting one on one with the bigger defenders for a catch, rather than his wonderful ability to simply blow past them and catch the balls in the clear, he’ll start to lose matchups.
And while I’m predicting it, I really do not want to see that day.
Steve Smith was a top 10 WR (or close) until a couple years ago. I think DeSean can stay up there for a while, especially with Maclin to draw attention away from him, but it’s a slippery slope. especially if he gets injured, loses some breakaway speed, or both.
Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.
by alcatraz0109 on May 15, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I was actually talking about Steven Jackson and his bruising running style, but I agree that D-Jax will lose a lot of what makes him special around 32 years old, assuming he doesn’t get injured.
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JIBTA’s actually Jack Ikegwuonu... and he’s f***ing pissed.
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if desean blows a knee to badly or breaks his leg I think he's done
to be honest.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
Oh yeah, me too. I love the guy, he’s one of the best players in the game as he is right now, but he’s so one dimensional (speed) that if he loses that dimension he becomes incredibly average.
I Am Better Than Jack Who Some Fool Thinks Is Better Than Asante (IABTJWSFTIBTA)
JIBTA’s actually Jack Ikegwuonu... and he’s f***ing pissed.
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He loses that speed and he's below average... He's not the possession reciever
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
Eh with the RBs
-You say that MJD will be approaching an “old” age in the NFL, while he’s actually only 25 (Same age as Adrian Peterson)
-Michael Turner’s 28 already, and DeWill’s 27. I don’t give those guys more than a couple more years of solid productivity…they aren’t stars on the rise. In fact, neither of them will ever see their 2008 #s again.
-Steven Jackson, Frank Gore, and Adrian Peterson are also not rising. They’re probably in the same category you give Peyton and Brady…stagnant. They’re phenomenal players, but they’ve reached their heights. They’ll likely stay there for a couple years, and then decline pretty quickly
-Jamaal Charles, Chris Johnson, Ray Rice, and Shonn Greene and perhaps MJD because this was really his first year of full production are the names you’re looking for in the context of the post…not the other guys
-I’d add that some guys like Donald Brown, Jonathan Stewart and LeSean McCoy should have made the list over the Turner’s and DeAngelo Williams’. I especially think it’s interesting that you even included 27 year old Williams over his 23 year old stable mate
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Ok couple things
Peyton may have plateaued but still thats one high ass plateau.
MJD is really that young? Seems like he has been in the league forever.
Steven jackson is falling the back surgery is going to kill him.
Williams and stewert is one hell of a one two punch. If I was carolina I would be fine with neither of them putting up stand alone amazing seasons like Chris johnson. But I do agree Stewert is better than Williams at this point. Even though they dont run the same kind of style.
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Michael Turner's a young 28.
He might have been ridden like a rented mule in ‘08, but that’s the only year he’s had a full-time RB gig. It’s like Thomas Jones, who didn’t get a lot of carries until he was in his late 20s, but was able to keep that momentum going through last year, at 32, an age where traditional star running backs traditionally have broken down. He might not approach ’08, but having 1200-yard seasons three years from now is not out of the question.
Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.
by alcatraz0109 on May 15, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
*have been rode
Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.
by alcatraz0109 on May 15, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
ugh i hate tricky tenses
Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.
by alcatraz0109 on May 15, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions
It sounded right in my head
When I read it as “Ridden”
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whichever one suits you i guess
neither sounds correct and I don’t want to look it up – but that’s beside the point
Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.
by alcatraz0109 on May 15, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Largely agree, but a few thoughts
- Brees has been playing longer then most think, just finishing his 9th season, while I agree he’ll be in the top 10, #2 seems high. I agree Stafford will be good, same with Kolb, but players like Schaub are still way to good to let guys like them kick them out of the top 10.
- Chris Johnson will be good for another 3-4 years, but any back taking that many carriers doesn’t last long in this league, so unless they get another back to share carries, he will be struggling to stay healthy in 5 years. Greene played well in two games in the playoffs, I wouldn’t label him top 10 material, but he will still be pretty good. MJD should be higher though, especially if he can get a good tandem running partner.
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