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NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell chats with Bleeding Green Nation

Almost immediately after Roger Goodell announced that the third and final day of the 2010 NFL Draft had begun, SB Nation writers Jason Brewer, Joel Thorman, and Brad "BBS" Wells were invited to chat with the NFL Commissioner off-stage at Radio City Music Hall in New York about various topics and issues related to the NFL. From the image the commissioner projects to fans to the new role fan bloggers seem to have in the NFL’s media landscape, Commissioner Goodell was gracious enough to answer several questions on a variety of topics important to fans and fan media.

Special thanks to NFL PR wizard Brian McCarthy for arranging this meeting between the commissioner, SB Nation’s three writers, and two other media bloggers.

 

The full interview is after the jump, but here's an Eagles related excerpt.

Jason Brewer: Do your eyes light up when a big story in the NFL comes up, like Donovan McNabb is traded to the Redskins, do you immediately think where are we going to put that first game in Philadelphia, what time is it going to be, when are we going to cover that?

Goodell: Fortunately, we have some great people who do the schedule and all that. They've become much more sophisticated in the scheduling. The reality is that we have so many great match ups. That kind of thing...just two games that would've been a great rivalry, takes it to a completely different level because now people are really going to want to understand the impact of that. So that's a good thing. So the answer is yes, it makes it more interesting and in my eyes, why not?

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BBS: What are your thoughts on the first day of the NFL Draft being in primetime and the high ratings the evening generated?

Goodell: Well, the response from our fans has been tremendous. Obviously, going into primetime made the draft available to that many more viewers. That’s a good thing. That’s what we’re in the business of doing, trying to make our game more available to more people. So, it’s very much a positive.

Question: Can you talk about the growth of fantasy football and how important you think it is to the league?

Goodell: I think it’s just another way for our fans to engage with football. It’s a great thing for us because they do it with groups, they do it with family. It allows them to follow the game in a different way than, maybe, the traditional one. The other great impact that it has is even if you’re following your team and your team is out of the playoffs, you can continue to follow football because of the fantasy aspect. So, again, it’s another way to engage the fans, which I think is a positive.

Question: Commissioner, there were a lot of trades (in rounds two and three), do you think the three-day format encourages a lot more movement?

Goodell: I think it does because, I think, they have a chance to adjust their boards and re-evaluate their boards. They have a chance to, obviously, have a lot of conversations to determine what they would like to do. But, I haven’t had a chance to talk with a lot of clubs so far. That’s part of what we’ll do in the evaluation afterward. It seems like it’s having a tremendous reaction from our fans. The other piece of that is, how’s it working for our clubs? Because, there is a business part of this. This is important to our clubs.

Joel Thorman: Is the NFL Draft your favorite time of the year?

Goodell: It’s one of my favorite times of year. To me, what I love about the draft is; first, you see the young men who are realizing their dreams that they’ve worked so hard for. That’s a pretty cool thing. You saw the emotion from some of these guys the other day. And then, the second thing is this total sense of hope and optimism. And, I think that’s great for everybody. So, all the fans, you know, they’re saying, Wow, my teams got a shot here. And, I think that’s a good thing.

Question: What do you think of having NFL greats like Gil Brandt making draft pick selection announcements for teams?

Goodell: I’ve been the one that’s encouraged that. I think it’s great. I just think there are so many people that… well, there’s our military, there’s somebody like Gil that’s been to 54 drafts. And, I worked closely with him early in my career. To acknowledge people and have the crowd to see them, I think that’s a great thing. The hall of famers [making pick selections]. The guys that they chose as the top draft choices in our 75 year draft. That’s pretty cool.

BBS: Can you discuss how fans might perceive you in light of all the player conduct policy decisions the last three or four years?

Goodell: You guys probably know better than I do. But, you know, the most important thing to me is for them to know that I’m protecting the game, the integrity of the game. And I’m gonna do what I think is right for the game long term, which will benefit them. That’s what I’m interested in.

BBS: Is that your main focus?

Goodell: The integrity of the game?

BBS: When you took the job as commissioner, was that one of the things you wanted to focus on? The integrity of the game?

Goodell: Well, the integrity of the game doesn’t just mean the personal conduct policy. When I look at the integrity of the game, it’s everything from making sure that the most important thing is we protect and that we grow the game. And, personal conduct could be an element of that. But, so is making sure our clubs follow the rules. That we continue innovating the game, and make sure that the game is as entertaining as possible. It means, how do we use technology to further the game and allow our fans to engage more deeply? You guys are a big part of that.

Jason Brewer: So, speaking of us, and specifically us at SB Nation, we’re fan journalists. We don’t work for a newspaper.

Goodell: Right.

Jason Brewer: We’re, you know, barely paid.

{Laughter)

Jason Brewer: What do you think a role is for someone like us in covering the NFL and being involved in it as opposed to ESPN and more traditional media?

Goodell: Well, what do you think it is?

Jason Brewer: Well, you know, I think-

BBS: More money!

(Laughter)

Goodell (to BBS): That’s an outcome.

Joel Thorman: Fan perceptive.

Jason Brewer: I think we’re a little less cynical, you think, than a lot of the media.

Goodell: Then what? Than the media?

Jason Brewer: in some cases. Some of the older guys…

Goodell: You know, I think... listen, from my perspective, you guys are reflecting what the fans are talking about. And maybe, from a media standpoint, they're providing their views to influence the fan perspective. But I think that's coming together at some point. I think that's changing. You guys are probably changing that because you're coming from the other direction. You're reflecting the fans perspective and giving the fans a voice. That's what I love. Now, we get the media perspective but we also want the fans perspective. That's why I spend so much time talking to fans. We just had a fan forum this morning where I get to hear what's on their mind, what's important, what they think we need to address and answer their questions. That's a good thing for us.

Jason Brewer: What's the number one thing fans have been asking you all weekend?

Goodell: The number one thing is the draft format. And nothing but positives. I think I heard one guy who said the other time was better for him because he had to miss work.

Question: As a fan of the game yourself, and you see all these trades going on, is that fun for you?

Goodell: I think the trades are fun for the fans and for anyone involved. We always talk about we want our fans to talk about football not some of the other things that are more business related. When you're talking about a trade you're saying, Is it good for this team or that team, did they give up too much? That kind of debate is great for the game. That's exactly what we like.

Question: There's been a lot of talk about a Super Bowl bid for New York. What do you think about playing a Super Bowl in colder weather?

Goodell: I'm fine with it because our game is designed to play in the elements. That's part of our tradition and our heritage. I think it's a great thing. We have to do everything we can to make sure the fan experience is a good one depending on the weather conditions. Again, fans come expecting to deal with the elements.

Question: What if it becomes a Dolphins and Bucs Super Bowl in New Jersey?

Goodell: It's still the way the game is played. They have to come up north and play in the winter, too. Teams in the north have to go down there and play in the warm weather, too. Elements are part of the game. I'm not troubled by that.

Jason Brewer: Do your eyes light up when a big story in the NFL comes up, like Donovan McNabb is traded to the Redskins, do you immediately think where are we going to put that first game in Philadelphia, what time is it going to be, when are we going to cover that?

Goodell: Fortunately, we have some great people who do the schedule and all that. They've become much more sophisticated in the scheduling. The reality is that we have so many great match ups. That kind of thing...just two games that would've been a great rivalry, takes it to a completely different level because now people are really going to want to understand the impact of that. So that's a good thing. So the answer is yes, it makes it more interesting and in my eyes, why not?

Joel Thorman: Normally you play that second Monday night game to open the season on the west coast. Why did you pick Kansas City this year?

Goodell: Couple of reasons. One is, this is the Midwest. So, we do have a little bit [of time difference]...it was a real chance for the Chiefs, who are opening a renovated stadium. They spent two years renovating it. It will give them a tremendous platform to do that. And I think it will really celebrate the game in the Midwest, with great football fans, in a new facility....I think is just a great opportunity for everybody.

Question: Sam Bradford picked first, Jimmy Clausen coming, Colt McCoy and you already have Sanchez and Ryan. Do you think you're looking at the next generation of great quarterbacks to lead the NFL?

Goodell: I think so, yes. I mean, we've had some great ones here, too. We had Marino here [tonight], Montana. I think every generation produces the next great quarterbacks. Obviously we've got Peyton, Brady, and Drew Brees, who was here this week also. I think these future quarterbacks will set their own mark.

Question: Why do you like holding the draft in New York?

Goodell: Well, it's the number one media market and I think this facility is also great for us. I think this creates a lot of excitement for the game and it's got great tradition. But, we've talked about the idea of rotating it around. If a three day draft is successful, and it looks like it is, it does give you the opportunity maybe to move one of those days to a different city.

Question: You've come a long way from those single phone calls.

Goodell: We were just watching the NFL Network in the lead up to us, and you see Pete Rozelle standing up in front of essentially this group right here and, I was there for some of those back in the early 80s. It's come a long ways.

BBS: How concerned are you about teams resting starters late in the season? How do you think the change [with division games getting played in the last two weeks] is going to affect that?

Goodell: I am concerned about it because I think we have an obligation that goes back to the integrity of the game. It's our responsibility to put the best games out there and have the best players playing to win. We have to create the kind of incentive to do that. By making the switch here to make all divisional games in the final week, it will improve the chances that they'll have to play their starters and play to win. That's a good thing for the fans. That's a good thing for the game. That's why we're going to continue to evaluate what else we can do but that's what we were talking about when we talked about creating an incentive and a structure for them to have to win the game. You have to keep doing that.

Jason Brewer: But, isn't it important to respect the autonomy of a coach? It's his job on the line and keeping players healthy and keeping them fresh.

Goodell: I don't debate where the coach is. That's why we have to change the system so the coach says, I have to win. That's my job because I gotta win. Don't give them the choice. It's not a dilemma they like. It's a difficult thing for the coach. If he doesn't play the guys and they lose, they get a negative fan reaction. And if they do play [the starters], and they get hurt. They get a negative reaction. So it's a tough dilemma for a coach so what I'm saying is take the dilemma away and create the incentives to always win and always play. That's how you solve the problem.


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good stuff jason. nice job

by ringordietryin on Apr 26, 2010 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice get ...

… Goodell. Heck yeah.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Apr 27, 2010 3:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nice Jason.

While I think it might get back lash from teams, I think the division games at the end is a great idea.

just decided they should add something to the health care bill. Everyone should be made to get a membership to a gym and must use it. If not then they should be penalized for not taking care of themselves. All in favor? Oh wait...it doesn't matter what we think.

by Udalango on Apr 26, 2010 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Agreed 100%

I absolutely love it, makes the end of the regular season that much more important and exciting.

by iamrobk on Apr 26, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, Goodell said that his impression was that coaches would like it. He said how it’s a tough decision for coaches and that they wouldn’t mind not having to make it.

Frankly though, I don’t think it will matter. If the Eagles have everything locked up by week 17 it won’t matter whether they’re playing the Giants or Cowboys. Andy will sit his guys anyway.

by JasonB on Apr 26, 2010 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats what I was thinking as well

I doubt the Colts change up at all either. I do feel like some coaches will absolutely hate the idea though

just decided they should add something to the health care bill. Everyone should be made to get a membership to a gym and must use it. If not then they should be penalized for not taking care of themselves. All in favor? Oh wait...it doesn't matter what we think.

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!!!!!!

by Udalango on Apr 26, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

They won’t. Polian won’t care whether they’re playing the Jaguars in week 17. He’ll sit his guys if he can.

I guess the point is that it’s more likely that those division games will matter…

by JasonB on Apr 26, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Idk in the Afc South colts are a shoe in

For some conferences it will matter a ton like ours we are all so close talent wise. But for other conferences there is just to much of a gap. Colts may or may not idk

just decided they should add something to the health care bill. Everyone should be made to get a membership to a gym and must use it. If not then they should be penalized for not taking care of themselves. All in favor? Oh wait...it doesn't matter what we think.

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!!!!!!

by Udalango on Apr 26, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always thought they should do Weeks 1-2-3 ...

… and 15-16-17 as division games. Not only would it space out the repeat games (I always hate when you play the same team 2 or 3 weeks after you just played them), but it would start the year off on an exciting note and end it that way. Kind of the same way college schedules have the rivalry games at the end.

I actually floated the idea to someone who might be able to put a bug in the ear of someone who could actually get the idea considered, but they basically said the networks would never let Weeks 4-14 be fillied with Cardinals-Chargers and Bucs-Bengals games with no natural interest. I guess CBS, Fox & NBC & ESPN depend on those division games — at least a couple a week — to keep interest up.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Apr 27, 2010 3:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very cool. Getting to chat with the commissioner is a great opportunity, congrats.

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by DeSean10 on Apr 26, 2010 12:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Good to hear NFL recognizes SB and other bloggers.

Any plans of endorsing or buying SBNation?

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by yophillybro on Apr 26, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

That we we can change the name to

“The official Philadelphia Eagles blog”

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by yophillybro on Apr 26, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stupid question

I forget who BBS is Can you tell us what teams the other writers represented?

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by yophillybro on Apr 26, 2010 12:24 PM EDT reply actions  

nice work Jason!

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by Eaglesgrl5 on Apr 26, 2010 12:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Take that BTB and BBV. What up?

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by Route36 on Apr 26, 2010 12:42 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Pint Glass?

I don’t know him.. Must be before my time.

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by antoniak on Apr 26, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is great

i saw this link on my phone and was already impressed. but great interview, great read, great job, and B stands for brewer, eh?

by Bleediots on Apr 26, 2010 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, Everyone here knows Jason name

He contributes time and to local news papers in Delaware and goes by his name. Plus he has included many videos (especially recently where you can see him) in the past he included pod cast of different interviews he participated in.

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by yophillybro on Apr 26, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure I’ve ever contributed to a newspaper in Delaware.

My name has been in the Washington Post and NY Times though.

by JasonB on Apr 26, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, yeah, I meant that one.

Sorry for the goof up. I jast got off of Jeff Moshers Twitter, so I got Delaware crossed with Washington Post. Sorry.

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by yophillybro on Apr 26, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very cool...

As someone who works on another SBNation site but doesn’t get treated nearly this well by the league or the team we cover, this is a great interview, Jason. Congrats!

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by Jordan Ellel on Apr 26, 2010 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Really nice interview!

Thanks Jason for representing Eagles fans with such class. Well done sir!

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by OkieEagle on Apr 26, 2010 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Mad Props, JB.

Your interaction with the fans translates well to the league. Thanks for being our voice.

I've been sayin "Wait til next year" for 32 years....

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by DoctaWoo on Apr 26, 2010 3:09 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Nice job, Jason!

Way to get BGN represented and recognized!
I just wish you’d talked rule changes as well.

About the divisional games at the end, yes, I think that might help keep some teams from slacking. Another suggestion I would have, which has worked well in some European soccer leagues to prevent unofficial collusion (teams either benefiting from knowing results of previous games or from “indifferent” opponents) would be to have all the last week’s games held at the same time. However, television is too important to the NFL for that to happen.

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by Rabbit T on Apr 26, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Well Done Jason

I think you asked the most interesting questions. Glad we have someone with a great background like yours managing this blog.

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by Talon Talent on Apr 26, 2010 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Does it get bigger than this? Who’s the dream get for an interview?

by andyreidswaistline on Apr 26, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would say Andy Reid. For us at least.

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by JasonB on Apr 27, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can I interview him?

...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.

Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer

by EvilBanner on Apr 27, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is good stuff.

And your questions were really good. Recommended. Two things…

“I think we’re a little less cynical, you think, than a lot of the media.”—while it is true that BGN is unequivocally the best sportswriting in the city, I think that a healthy dose of cynicism is a necessary part of reporting. There are tons of Spadaro fanboys who spout the party line without ever questioning ANYTHING Reid and company do. I think BGN does a good job tempering some of the gushy effusiveness with hardcore reality.

The second—“We just had a fan forum this morning where I get to hear what’s on their mind, what’s important, what they think we need to address and answer their questions.”—can you ask Roger why Jacksonville still has a team? Can you also ask him why the draft is three days long? The first two are great. Day 3 is deadly.

...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.

Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer

by EvilBanner on Apr 26, 2010 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

The draft coverage on philly.com was pretty terrible

I know you’re a cynic and I’m an optimist, but we both (I think) appreciate balance. I thought they were questioning stuff just to question it today. The lack of a CB pick is a legitimate angle, but some of the other stuff was not so good. And I usually think the Philly papers do a nice job with the Eagles.

As far as what’s really good Eagles-related writing, I’m starting to like IgglesBlog and Eagles Blitz a lot.

BGN I consider less of a place to get my reporting from (although JasonB does occasionally get good access, like on this article) and more of a place to have the discussion and react to the news, with other people who care/are in the know. To that end, I don’t think anybody does it better … and there are quite a few places I wouldn’t even considering joining the comments/conversation because it’s so ridicuously low brow.

Sorry, that was a little tangent brought on by your sportswriting remarks. I know this is a top in which we both have an interest.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Apr 27, 2010 3:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

At work with nothing to do

I have BGN, IgglesBlog, and Eagles Blitz open, with twitter updating me on 3 people haha

by Team Serbia on Apr 27, 2010 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I certainly don’t pretend to be a reporter. I don’t even think I want to be a place where stories are broken. We’re about being a community and reacting.

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by JasonB on Apr 27, 2010 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Okay.

I definitely agree. I certainly appreciate balance. That’s why I never watch Fox News. Or MSNBC. I don’t know about the “questioning stuff just to question it.” I think a lot more of it goes the other way. Domo’s recent conversion to the “Andy is God and Kolb is Jesus” camp had me laughing out loud. Domo is now Eskin, spouting Spadarian talking points just to score interviews. Sellouts.

...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.

Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer

by EvilBanner on Apr 27, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you’re confusing cynicism with being critical. I think there are guys in the media that can be cynical about the whole process. There were guys covering the draft that seemed miserable to be there.

We can be critical here, but I think we all still love to watch the games and are excited by what happens.

For me, being cynical is the opposite of being passionate. Some of those guys just don’t care anymore.

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by JasonB on Apr 27, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

There are definitely tons of "phone it in guys..."

Todd McShay, I’m looking at YOU, sir. I agree there.

...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.

Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer

by EvilBanner on Apr 27, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very cool Jason, great job it’s really great to see SBN getting so big.

No one asked about the Overtime rule change? I know you probably didn’t have much time and wanted to focus on the draft but I saw some schedule questions and trade questions.

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by Whodie126 on Apr 27, 2010 11:31 AM EDT reply actions  

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