Philadelphia Eagles 2010 NFL draft grades
As soon as the draft ends, the question becomes "How did we do?" The real answer to that question obviously won't come for several years, but in the meantime we try to guess anyway by giving out grades. Some of these guys base those grades on whether a team addressed a need, some on the perceived "value" of a pick, some on the quality of the players, and some on the volume of players and trades. They don't really mean much right now, but they're fun to look at anyway. Good news for us, the experts seem to really like the Eagles draft. If there's any more grades out there that you've found feel free to put them in the comments. Listed below are mostly the heavy hitters.
Fox Sports - B
The Eagles gave up a lot to move up in the first round to take Michigan pass rusher Brandon Graham (pictured), who was a dominant performer in the Big Ten. Andy Reid is hoping that second-round pick Nate Allen of South Florida can shore up the safety position, but he’s not an intimidator like Brian Dawkins was for this franchise
Rob Rang CBS Sports - B
An indication of just how active the Philadelphia Eagles were on draft day is that of the 13 picks they made, only the 121st overall, outside linebacker Keenan Clayton, was an original Eagles selection. A year after spending great resources on improving the playmaking ability of their offense, the Eagles spent their first two days of the draft re-stocking their defense.
Mel Kiper ESPN - B+
he Eagles were positioned well to take advantage of a deep draft, and they did, piling up seven productive picks between the third and fifth rounds. But Philly started well too. In Brandon Graham they have a potential Rookie of the Year on defense. They filled a need at safety with Nate Allen, and I like Trevard Lindley in the fourth. He has second-round ability. Ricky Sapp may be a tweener, but getting a guy who can get to the quarterback like he can in the fifth round is good value. He could be a solid situational pass-rusher early in his career. Riley Cooper is quicker than many people think to go with above-average size.
Rick Gosselin Dallas Morning News - C
Graham was the most polished pass rusher in this draft. The Eagles also had the best fourth round. Harbor gives QB Kevin Kolb a move tight end in the Dallas Clark mold, and Kafka gives Andy Reid insurance at quarterback. Grade C (FYI most teams got a C)
Paul Domowich Philly.com - A-
Graham and Allen should help a defense that gave up 27 TD passes last season. Added more speed at LB, but didn’t get a corner until the fourth round. Grade: A-minus
USA Today - B-
They had an NFL-high 13 picks, and just one of the choices was an original selection. Not so typical: The Eagles didn't pick an O-lineman, breaking an Andy Reid pattern and more stunning considering how the Dallas Cowboys manhandled the front at season's end. But this was about a defense that slipped in 2009. The first five picks were used for the defense, including a first-round trade-up for end Brandon Graham and second-round pick of cover safety Nate Allen.
Sporting News - B+
They had to improve their defense and went all out to do it. They traded up to get pass rusher Brandon Graham, and safety Nate Allen could start right away. They also might have gotten a late-round steal in wide receiver Riley Cooper. Overall, a nice job.
Pete Prisco CBS Sports - A+
You look up and down their draft board and it's full of really good players. They had a lot of picks and the Eagles really did a nice job with them. That shouldn't be surprising.
NFL Draft Insider - A-
Analysis: Even after trading with the Seattle Seahawks for Darryl Tapp, the Eagles felt they needed to address the defensive end position. Brandon Graham entered the draft competing to be the first pass rusher taken. Despite not being very tall or having long arms, Graham was extremely productive at Michigan. As well as being an excellent pass rusher, Graham is very strong against the run.
NFLDraftScout.com - A+
You look up and down their draft board and it's full of really good players. They had a lot of picks and the Eagles really did a nice job with them. That shouldn't be surprising. Grade: A+
Pro Football Weekly - A-
While completely retooling the roster, the Eagles easily landed four starters and found a lot of quality depth, although the jury remains out on the decision to deal McNabb.
I'll continue to update this thread as more grades come in.
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I don't know if having an intimidator at safety is a good idea anymore
Sure, we like watching tight ends get decleated and WRs too afraid to run between the hashes, but the NFL is in the process of legislating those guys out of existence. Plus, Bob Sanders broke himself in half and Troy Polumalu seems to be doing the same. A guy who can run, cover and maybe level somebody every once in a while looks a lot more valuable the Jack Tatum-type headhunters of yore.
Plus you get guys like LaRon Landry who are so concerned with the big hit that they totally whiff half the time.
Nate Allen reminds me of Ed Reed more then a Dawkins. I mean that in a good way too.
"Sugah n' rainbows"
"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
just physical looks.
If you dont like Big Red, then F#%@ You!
-Ricky Bobby
by GreenInBaltimore on Apr 26, 2010 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions
loll i was just going to post this as soon as I readd it
what the fuck does being an intimidator have to do with being a good safety!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
you don't think the intimidation factor with Dawkins
made him a better safety?
My "t" and "y" buttons are messed up so don't bitch at me about misspelling, I'm just saying.
by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Apr 26, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm ready for the '10-'11 season.
I can’t wait..
The Eagles WILL redeem themselves in the '10-'11 season, with a win at SuperBowl 45 in Dallas!
LOL.. very interesting
A Philly writer gives us an A, a Dallas writer gives us a C.. everyone else agrees B…
DOH.. then you hid some after the break. Seems the draft blogs give us an A, nice.
You really have to look at gosselins grades though. A “C” is an average grade for him. In contrast a “B” is more common for a guy like kiper.
by JasonB on Apr 26, 2010 10:03 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I also noticed one of those draft blog grades after the break is really just an A for our first round selection of Graham.. not the fully draft. Before I noticed that I was about to post how they lost credibility by rating Washington’s draft an A as well.. but I can see it with their first pick anyway. Also, that same draft blog has an over exaggerating misprint.. they were praising of how the Eagles FO kept our 2 second round picks and managed to jump over 20 spots. Its awesome that they kept the two second round picks, but we really only jumped 11 spots… so its not as awesome a feat.
As for Kiper’s grades, I’m not an insider.. so I can only see the first couple and ours that you copied.
Gosselin did give out 8 B’s and 5 A’s (and 2 D’s), which means that at the very least he thinks that at least 13 teams did better than us, and only 2 definitely did worse.
I just don’t see it.
Personally, I hate draft grades (although I’ll always read them, haha), and although Gosselin is actually one of the few writers that I feel has a clue about college talent, nobody knows shite about these guys until they step onto an NFL field.
But to completely overlook the way Philly accumulated so many extra picks for almost nothing is a bit of an oversight.
He didn’t overlook it, infact he claimed we had the best forth round (with 4 picks, its the easiest praise to give)… he gave no indication of how the Eagles did anything bad or even average. Then slapped a C on it. If he didn’t also give Dallas a C and NYG a B.. it’d be easier to just stamp it as homerism. But as such, it is just an empty grade.. might as well have been decided by the college stair grading system. He wrote up his opinions about how the teams did then dropped a stack of papers w/ each teams logo from the top of a staircase and whichever level they landed on, that’s the grade they got.
WTF?
Gosselin’s analysis is vapid.
“Graham was the most polished pass rusher in this draft. The Eagles also had the best fourth round. Harbor gives QB Kevin Kolb a move tight end in the Dallas Clark mold, and Kafka gives Andy Reid insurance at quarterback.” Grade:
Read as: The Eagles got one of the best pass rushers in the draft, a great fourth round in a deep draft, a good backup QB, and a tight end like Dallas Clark…Grade C?
Let me try: The Eagles did not draft a single Hall of Famer in this draft. Grade: F!
hahahaha
Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.
by alcatraz0109 on Apr 26, 2010 10:33 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But yet...
…every draft guide that gives them an A is accepted as Gospel truth? Can’t have it both ways.
...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.
Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer
I would say all draft grades are BS honestly. I will say that I liked the positions they addressed and the strategy to trade back. Other than that we don’t know anything right now.
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Apr 26, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Totally. Obviously we like seeing good grades, but at this point an “A” is just as valid as a “C.” They’re all just taking a guess.
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And not a single mention of Daniel Te'Oneshaminy...
which I’m chalking up as a flat out wasted pick. This draft would have looked so much better if they had just grabbed an Oline prospect instead of a Gocong prospect.
by andyreidswaistline on Apr 26, 2010 10:15 AM EDT reply actions
Just curious
How much time have you spent scouting him? And “reading the ESPN and NFL.com analysis” doesn’t count as scouting.
Agreed
He’s got the motor and the athleticism to make it in the NFL – I could see him bring a key part of the rush in a couple years.
Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.
by alcatraz0109 on Apr 26, 2010 10:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I actually youtubed him, and like him
We had enough picks to draft a guy like him. They knew they owned the 4th round and didn’t want to risk losing him. So they pulled the trigger, yeah, he went kinda high, but we wanted to be sure he didn’t go to someone else.
After seing video of him, I like him.Very aggresive player, I don’t want to use the word High Motor. But thats what he has. Some one compared him to Kyle Vanden Bosch. I don’t disagree. I would say, he is more like Jason Babin. OK, maybe not Trent Cole, but Babin wasn’t really too bad. He was a nice role player.
I really like the pick, and think he will make the team. I too will root for him to make this team. He is an underdog, I love underdogs. Its like rooting for Rudy again.
In Kolb we trust
by yophillybro on Apr 26, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
I Like it
A buddy of mine from Seattle thinks this was a great pick and he follows UW football religiously. Said that he’s an absolute beast and that because the rest of the team sucks (UW) he got double or triple teamed nearly every play yet was still productive.
Trust me when I say I hope to god I’m eating my words.
by andyreidswaistline on Apr 26, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
He was the SackSEER sleeper of the draft. He is sort of like Graham in that he was the best player on an ok to bad defense.
by Clyde Simmons on Apr 26, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Not in ANY way like Gocong
Seriously, people need to stop that now. TON was a very productive player at a big school that plays in a major conference. It is not in any way like taking Div-1AA Gocong and switching his position.
poeple only say that because he looks oriental.
Every white WR is a Wes Welker clone. And every Asian player is Chris Gocong.
People need to stop it. He is not gonna play Sam, if anyone saw video of him. He is way to slow and not athletic to play LB. But he is fine @ DE. I like him. Reminded me of Pat Kerney a little.
In Kolb we trust
by yophillybro on Apr 26, 2010 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions
If anything...
Ricky Sapp is going to be Gocong 2.0.
Let the beasting begin.
by TransplantedFan on Apr 26, 2010 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I've watched Te'o-Nesheim play here at the UW-
He can absolutely play and has changed the momentum of some games against tough PAC-10 opponents.
Just to throw out my $0.02
I was at first kind of bummed about this draft but after thinking it over I think that we did very well to bolster out defense. I’m of the belief that we’re transitioning to a “Colts Style” of defense where we stuff the run at the point of attack and then dare them to throw. I don’t think this is a JJ defense which is similar to what Derek is saying over at Igglesblog. I think that we’re looking to make a rotation at the front 4 with the possibility of moving our DEs inside or outside and then, on occasion, blitzing out of the LB core or the secondary.
I get the strategy of not going out and getting a 1st round safety or CB since at FS is still a veterans position in my opinion. It’s the most complicated position to play on the defensive side of the ball – period.
So I guess the whole point of this draft was to help out the DBs by just bringing in some new rushers, and we’ve always been a team that picks up the speed rushers so I guess this really is nothing new. Although, I am excited to see Graham lined up in addition to Cole. That’s going to be hot.
Couple of other thoughts
- For all of the players they now have at LB potentially on the roster, I still don’t see a long-term solution at either SAM or Will positions. Simms is a 1- year, stop-gap measure who I would be really surprised if the Eagles resign long-term. Just not their style. Still the most interested to see how Fokou looks in camp because he is probably the best option they have right now at SAM. Still looks like an average group overall even with Bradley returning and Simms starting a Will although it will be an upgrade from last year which ranged from average to piss poor on a weekly basis.
- LCB still sticks out like a sore thumb. Everyone is assuming that Dobbs/Jackson are going to come back healthy & ready to go. You really have no idea until probably a few weeks into camp how they are really look.
- Biggest weakness on this team isn’t at C or G. It is at T because the Eagles don’t have one guy on this roster right now who can adequately fill in for Peters or Justice. Eagles better make sure they have good jojo for these guys next season.
- Reid’s arrogance on the C issue reminds me of other previous seasons when the Eagles had a glaring hole and Reid just assumed he could fill it will holdover options.
Generally hasn’t worked out too well for him.
- Actually might head up to Lehigh for the first time in years because I am interested to see how Kolb looks & all of the new faces on defense in the mix. Unlike last year which was really dull except for the whole Vick saga, there are really going to be a bunch of interesting things to watch in camp including at least 4-5 battles for starter positions on D.
- Draft grades are really dumb. This draft though will likely be determined by how the Eagles did with all of their mid-round maneuvering. DTO seems like a stretch and Clayton looks like another in a line of Reid LB picks that is largely just a roster filler guy.
by MG77 on Apr 26, 2010 10:45 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Which then hurts the rotation at Guard. I’m fine with Herremans moving out to T. He’s adequate there. Not sure I like my options though for who moves to LG, especially with Nick Cole at C.
Let the beasting begin.
by TransplantedFan on Apr 26, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions
we have
McGlynn and Jean-Gilles…one guy we know virtually nothing about, and another who is a below-average short-term solution. Not great, but not “lose the game for you bad”.
I am also expecting Andrews to be ready and to be able to slide out to tackle if we need him to. I agree that it sucks we have to move starters into new positions to cover injuries, but it is serviceable for the short-term, and WAY better than putting King Dunlap in the game.
I’m also curious to see Fenuki in action…maybe he’s worth his weight on the roster.
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
MJ is an alright rotation guy, but thats about it
In a starter you need someone who flat out mauls DT’s week in and week out. LETS HOPE ANDY PICKS UP FANECA!!!!
Herremans won’t hack it a LT even over the intermediate term especially with protecting the blindside of what is still essentially a rookie QB in terms of playing time. Just too slow with this footwork and a guy that people will be able to get under.
fHerremans did play fine there when asked to. I agree that makes a hole at LG, but he’s a perfectly acceptable fill in at LT
Herremans hasn’t played LT in a meaningful way since ‘05 and I just don’t think he has the footwork & leverage to succeed out there over an extended period.
He didn’t start, but he played LT in the Oakland game.
by BreckBirds20 on Apr 26, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
And we was pretty awful but he gets a pass there because he was still coming back from his knee injury.
No he didn’t. He was still out. King Dunlap substituted in for Peters. Herremans started at LT the next week against the Redskins and locked it down.
Didn’t the Eagles struggle to move the ball in that game and I thought Carter had a pretty good game from the right side?
Didn’t Peters come back the next week at LT and Herremans move back to LG for the first game vs. Skins? That’s what the box score shows.
he's good enough for a backup
its not like your backup is always going to be good. He was very decent at LT, lets just pray our line stays healthy because outside of Herramens at LT and jean-gilles at Guard, we haven’t seen anything from our O-line depth.
My "t" and "y" buttons are messed up so don't bitch at me about misspelling, I'm just saying.
by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Apr 26, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I coulda sworn he was at LG that day until Dunlap started to shit the bed in place of Peters, then Herremans went over to LT and MJG or someone took over LG.
by BreckBirds20 on Apr 26, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Asante plays LCB, RCB is the one you're referring to
Just a correction
by Team Serbia on Apr 26, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
This is why I was pulling for Pouncey.
This draft was very week with Centers. There was only 1 worth drafting in the top 4 or 5 rounds. Very, Very week draft for Centers. We don’t draft one, just because we need one. We gotta like the guy we are drafting at least.
Also, I don’t understand how Andy is ignorant with the Centers issue, when a few years back we tried to sign LaCharles Bently and almost signed Jason Brown last year. We called Browns agent too late, if we had called sooner, we would have had an all pro center. I guess this is the behavior of a coach who “ignores” a position!!! (Sarcasm)
In Kolb we trust
by yophillybro on Apr 26, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
they are referring to him ignoring kick returner and then fullback. Back when.
My "t" and "y" buttons are messed up so don't bitch at me about misspelling, I'm just saying.
by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Apr 26, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Not drafting a C isn’t a sign of arrogance but when Reid has been asked about the position this offseason you have gotten a very similar answer that basically consists of “We have players there who know our system, we like, and think can do a very good job.”
How is it arrogant? Isn’t he supposed to know his players better than everyone else? This is a coach that puts a premium on the line and has invested a ton in it over the years. I find it hard to believe that arrogance is the only reason he didn’t draft a center
agree. But I would like to point out also that Reid is a strong believer in a powerful O-Line. So by him not taking a center just says that he thinks that this line is:
A) Good enough that he didn’t think it needed to be addressed.
B) That he felt the D was way more important in rebuilding this year then future years down the line. Because Im sure that all coaches know what type of talent is going to be available in the next few years. So he felt there’s either no good defensive players next draft, or a better center in the next draft.
"Sugah n' rainbows"
"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."
Maybe arrogant is too strong a word. It is just a deficiency right now that they plan on everything breaking their way.
Just now on 610, Roseman said they anticipate that Jackson will be back sooner than later & that feel “great” about McGlynn and Shipley.
If you get throw the company speak, it sounds like they don’t think they have a legitimate starter at C and instead are hoping they can stop-gap until Jackson gets back as the sttarter in mid-season. Again, it just seems like risky contingency planning that will fall apart if Jackson doesn’t come back.
To be fair.. the Eagles haven’t had a starting center that was actually drafted in well over a decade. Hank Fraley & Jamaal Jackson were both undrafted players. So, in their organization this strategy has worked fine.
Nick Cole was undrafted as well.
Shipley
Is a good backup center. Much like Fraley, atheletic and smart. Would be very effective w/ the screen game. He was the leader of the Penn State line for a few years. I have a lot of faith in him, not necessarily as a starter, but as a good lineman.
by amishoverlord on Apr 26, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Not to be difficult...
but isn’t that the kind of answer Reid gives to almost every question?
Let the beasting begin.
by TransplantedFan on Apr 26, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Also
I think C is just fine. With a full off season practicing at C, Cole and McGlynn (whose been the C for Kolb and the backup squad for 2 years now) will offer enough competition for each other, and the position will be fine. You’re forgetting that we ask our C to do a lot. He has to be able to read the blitz, and make line adjustments which is very hard for a rookie C to do. He’ll already be trying to get the playbook down, and its tough to expect him to understand NFL defenses right away.
by Team Serbia on Apr 26, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I agree
Center is just fine. Nick Cole (with an entire offseason and preseason under his belt at C) is a very adequate fill-in for Jamaal. Add to that Mike McGlynn in his 3rd year and A.Q. Shipley and you have a good 3-way competition at C. I fully expect one of the 3 to win the job and be just fine. Now on top of that, you can’t completely write Jamaal off for later in the season. I could see JJ being put on the PUP list and returning after week 6.
The one problem I have is Stacy Andrews… if he doesn’t show up, that’s when we’re in big, big trouble. If he isn’t “the guy” there at RG like Andy expects him to be, then that forces one of MJG or Cole to start there and that will turn the entire OL into a big question mark once again. But for the time being, we’re okay there.
I think Stacy will be a very pleasant surprise for a lot of people
by Team Serbia on Apr 26, 2010 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't doubt it
I hope you’re right.
But, you can’t feel 100% comfortable with him until he shows up and gets it done.
I love our OL if we have the Stacy Andrews of the Bengals at RG. But if we have the Stacy of ‘09 post ACL injury at RG, then we’re in trouble. That’s all I’m saying.
It is Andrews or sink because MJG has shown almost nothing during his tenure here. Actually think Andrews will be just ‘adequate’ but people will give undue credit since he was so horrible in limited time last year.
Just really hard to see the offensive line be a strength of this team next year and being a disaster if they have 1-2 injuries to starters especially one of the tackles.
You state that Reid’s system asks alot of the C and yet you think the position will be fine with 2 inexperienced options at C? Bit of a contradiction.
They aren't inexperienced options at C
A rookie is completely inexperienced. McGlynn has been the C of the backup team for the past 2 years, which also means he built a rapport with Kolb. NFL defenses are many times more complicated than College ones. It is something that is learned over time, and something that you use your instincts to judge. And Cole has been part of our line for 4 years now.
by Team Serbia on Apr 26, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Hybrids
I loved what the birds did for the D Line this weekend. It all starts with getting pressure on the QB, particularly in this division. But the next two levels of defense have been in need of a makeover, and I’m not sure that we sured them up too much with our picks. Looking at the roster I’m seeing a ton of athletic ’tweener players in the LB (Gaither, Fokou, Jordan, Mays, Sapp, Simms, Clayton) and Secondary (Macho, Demps, Nate Allen, Marlin Jackson).
Seems to me like they plan on throwing these guys at a few open spots during camp to see who fits the best instead of drafting with definitive roles for them in mind. A strategy which hasn’t worked too well in the past few drafts.
Also, with Sheldon gone, who’s gonna bring the wood in that secondary?
by chief_misnomer on Apr 26, 2010 11:23 AM EDT reply actions
I’m nervous about Andy saying Nate Allen can play corner. Hopefully Marlin Jackson is healthy and can play corner. If he can, thats huge. That being said, I’m a little distrustful of Colts corners.
Let the beasting begin.
by TransplantedFan on Apr 26, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions
me too
he might be good at nickelback
My "t" and "y" buttons are messed up so don't bitch at me about misspelling, I'm just saying.
by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Apr 26, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh shit.
Macho is the second coming of Izel Jenkins.
...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.
Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer
Eh, I think he’d be good if we can hide him near the LOS. He can tackle and has good instincts. He is just slow. God ST’er though. Not really sure why everyone hates the guy so much, he was a 5th round pick what do you expect?
by You don't have to be sweet, to be good on Apr 26, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I expect him not to start or play at 2 important positions
in our secondary. Lets just cut our losses.
I think he can run, but he just didn’t look comfortable out in space as a safety. You’d seem him be slow to react on those sideline to sideline plays. He probably would be better off at corner where he wouldn’t have to make those reads.
I can’t say whether he’ll ever be a good player, but his best shot seems to be at CB.
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Graham/Allen Combo.
Looking back at the draft, these two moves I absolutely loved.
Going into the draft, I was with everybody else wishing and hoping that we would trade up for Eric Berry or Earl Thomas. But after the fact, I think going with Graham then Allen was a much better move.
If you think about it, Graham in the 1st and Allen in the 2nd is much better than Earl Thomas in the 1st and any DE in the 2nd (the best on the board from what I saw was Carlos Dunlap).
I don’t see as big of a drop off from Thomas to Allen than from Graham to Dunlap.
So who would you rather have?
Graham/Allen or Thomas/Dunlap?
by Smitty2K3 on Apr 26, 2010 11:36 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
This
+1000
I wasn’t happy with the trade up for Graham until:
1 – I heard the Giants wanted him at #15 and had to setttle for JPP, a one season wonder with character issues coming out of a weak conference.
2 – They took Allen with #37.
by FlyinHawiianPizza on Apr 26, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Going into the draft, I was with everybody else wishing and hoping that we would trade up for Eric Berry or Earl Thomas. But after the fact, I think going with Graham then Allen was a much better move.
so, im assuming, you felt that way for months. You did your limited scouting on the players, watched a couple of highlight reels, looked at our defense and needs across the board… then, BOOM, 15 seconds later you completely 180 and forget all your original opinions. I am all for respecting others opinions and letting that help to form yours but the complete 180 that this place took is just too much.
If you think about it, Graham in the 1st and Allen in the 2nd is much better than Earl Thomas in the 1st and any DE in the 2nd (the best on the board from what I saw was Carlos Dunlap).
based on what?? Dunlap’s DUI?? Few would argue that Allen is in Thomas’ league and Dunlap could just as easily become the best DE in the class. You’ld have a hard time arguing that the Graham/Allen combo is equal to Thomas/Dunlap nevertheless “much better”.
VOID!!!
Cetner
I’m guessing Nick Cole is going to start there (as that was his original position) and Stacy will hopefully be ready to slide over to guard and play it well
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
A lot is riding on stacy here. If he’s back to form the line is in good shape. If not, it throws a lot off
and Cole better step up
specially after that horrible game he had in Dallas. Hope that JJ gets back alright even if its for the last few games.
Also
Any team that gets 13 picks in a draft that is considered REALLY DEEP should automatically get a B. If this draft is so good then there should be a tleast 2-4 GOOD contributors out of that line up, no?
Also, a good safety to me isn’t exactly a hard hitter (Roy Williams, Landry, etc) Much rather have a SMART safety who knows where the play is going and can cover good ground.
E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!
OL
Seems like they are going to rely upon two guys next year potentially – McGlynn and Tepou to potentially start & be key depth guys. Dunlap just roster filler and MJG isn’t much better.
Dunlap shouldn’t even be on the roster and I think Max Jean has had more than enough chances to prove himself.
As for Tuopu and McGlynn, these guys are as likely to compete next year as any OL they picked up late in this draft.
Do you think there's a chance
Dunlap pulls a “Justice”?
I personally don’t, but I certainly didn’t expect Justice too either.
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
no
...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.
Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer
Not exactly what the Eagles are saying though. They have been touting that McGlynn could fill in right away because he has has 2 years of every day practice in this system.
Tuopu to me a total unknown and probably to the Eagles to even with the offseason minicamps. He just has to beat out Dunlap which doesn’t seem like it is that high of a bar to overcome to make the season
Figure if they go with 10 OL again to start the season you figure the first 7 are set:
- Peters
- Herremans
- Cole
- Andrews
- Justice
- McGlynn
- MJG
Jackson will almost certainly begin the season on the PUP list and I guess they have room for a T (Dunlap or Tuopu and probably 1 more lineman).
haha look at Fox.. “the eagles got a safety.. but he’s not brian dawkins”
i give the draft an A. everyone seems to hate on this Teo guy but he was a fan favorite with a tough character so i like him. but i really liked what i saw from RB Charles Scott hes 240 lbs we got him in the 6th and he is a beast… sorry buckley u might be done..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROrIY31e7yE
I think that expecting any kind of immediate help for the Oline out of this draft was being way optimistic. After Okung, Williams, Iupati, and Pouncey all the Oline prospects were considered raw/developmental prospects. I don’t know if I would feel all that much better about the upcoming season if I knew we had guys like Ducasse, Asamoah , or Tennant sitting on the bench or deactivated every game. I do know that I wouldn’t want to see them against Ratlif and Haynesworth this year.
I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.
good point
My "t" and "y" buttons are messed up so don't bitch at me about misspelling, I'm just saying.
by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Apr 26, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Dallas Morning News, really has no idea what they are talking about
eff you we winning anyway
A.I. IS BACKKKKKKK
I agree with with No1pipelayer
If Reid had OL doubts in this year’s draft, why not wait until next year, move up and take a solid prospect in the first round.
The draft
The only way to judge is it is let them play. I think the EAGLES did a great job, but until they play it’s all subject to other people to say what is good and bad
D.C. YATES
Thanks for throwing this togther
It is helpful to see them all together.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

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