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Philadelphia Eagles Full 2010 NFL Draft

The 2010 NFL draft is in the books and the Eagles made 13 selections, with the first 5 coming on the defensive side of the ball. All told, 9 of the Eagles 13 selections were on defense.

In case you missed anything, we've got every pick right here complete with links to the story.

#13 Brandon Graham DE Michigan

#37 Nate Allen S USF

#86 Daniel Te'o-Nesheim DE Washington

#105 Trevard Lindley CB Kentucky

#121 Keenan Clayton LB Oklahoma

#122 Mike Kafka QB Northwestern

#125 Clay Harbor TE Missouri State

#135 Ricky Sapp DE Clemson

#159 Riley Cooper WR Florida

#200 Charles Scott RB LSU

#220 Jamar Chaney LB Mississippi State

#243 Jeff Owens DT Georgia

#244 Kurt Coleman S Ohio State

Thoughts? Who do you like, who don't you like? How would you grade the draft as a whole?

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You should make a poll.

Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.

by alcatraz0109 on Apr 24, 2010 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

or 2

one for best pick and one for worst

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by sctrojan13 on Apr 24, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

w/ grades

Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.

by alcatraz0109 on Apr 24, 2010 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I...

Kinda wish we took a punter to push Sav…but you can usually get one as an unsigned FA

Do like the picks of: Graham, Allen (much better for our D than Mays), DTO, Scott, and Kafka

Dislike, No specific picks but I wish we had taken one corner early…idk much about Lindley

by blt5050 on Apr 24, 2010 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

we have a punter to push sav already

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by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 24, 2010 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously, how many times do I have to mention this guy ...

… I wish I got paid per post. He was the best punter coming out two years ago. Redskins took him in the 6th, rushed him into the job and he flamed out midseason. But he’s got a big leg and I think he’ll take Rocca’s job. Just a hunch.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Apr 24, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

A+

Im super excited for this year

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Apr 24, 2010 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

A+!?

what fantasy world do you live in? that is exremely generous.

by awd777 on Apr 24, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I literally just picked myself off the floor from laughing. Too funny.

I hope I am wrong, but Kolb is a four-letter word.

by Cowboy KILLER on Apr 24, 2010 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

well getting rid of McNabb was the first best move

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Apr 24, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

An A+ is as credible as any other grade IMO. We’re all just guessing at a completely arbitrary grade.

by JasonB on Apr 25, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure it is… but I’m being honest when I say that I don’t have strong feelings either way. I like the top two picks. From there on out you’re guess is as good as mine as to whether any of these guys can play.

I will say that I did like the value of turning 1 pick into 5 players.

Otherwise, we’ll find out if these guys can play soon enough.

by JasonB on Apr 25, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whether or not you like the players...

The Eagles, with the way they moved around and accumulated extra picks for virtually nothing, put on an absolute clinic over the past 3 days.

I honestly can’t be happier with the way the front office conducted this draft.

There’s going to be amazing competition in camp, and this is going to be a young, exciting team for the next half decade.

by JimmyK on Apr 24, 2010 5:16 PM EDT reply actions  

the problem with accumulating extra picks

is that they still reached on a couple picks, like Clayton that could likely be had later.

by JGCarraway on Apr 24, 2010 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you really like a guy, you get him. If you get too cute and try to draft every player you like at the exact perfect spot, there are 31 other teams that can jump in and snatch him away. Obviously, the Eagles see something, and they’ve hit on a lot of players that nobody ever heard of in the past, so I’m a little slower to criticize them for “reaching” for a guy, especially when they had 13 picks.

by JimmyK on Apr 24, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frankly I agree. I don’t think you can assume anything after the 3rd round. It’s a free for all there.

by JasonB on Apr 24, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they made out like bandits late in the draft actually.

but yeah, I think some of their mid round picks are questionable because of who else was left on the board.

by JGCarraway on Apr 24, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could've

I agree, they managed to make extra picks appear out of thin air. 4 in the 4th was pretty awesome. But I could’ve been happier if they used any of the picks on some O-Line depth/competition

by Sparki on Apr 24, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

B+ at least

If you dont agree with graham fine,…but the rest of the draft went really well i think

by blt5050 on Apr 24, 2010 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

you think t'eo was a good pick?

because i thought that pick was worse than the tebow pick

Eagles.

by #1EaglesFan on Apr 24, 2010 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

T'eo?

Check his combine numbers. Check his stats at UW. He is a bona fide rusher in the mold of Trent Cole. He’s gonna be very good.

Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.

by alcatraz0109 on Apr 24, 2010 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

but then why graham?

by packimop on Apr 24, 2010 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

T’eo – pass rush situational DE
Graham – complete DE to compliment Cole.

RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.

by Imp on Apr 24, 2010 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly, I think Te’o will be the DT on passing downs

by BreckBirds20 on Apr 24, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

So do I. I also see them moving Graham and, even Cole, around to confuse offenses (for cole just two to three point stance stuff)

by fantasybc88 on Apr 24, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, “t’eo” is a bust. He didn’t even get drafted.

Te’o-Nesheim is a different story.

Try not to be down on someone if you can’t look them up first.

by corn on the kolb on Apr 24, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

?

When was I down on him? “Pass rush situational DE” is insulting now?

Oh, and I shorten his last name and put the apostrophe in wrong spot. Boo hoo. Get over it.

RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.

by Imp on Apr 24, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

let's ask mike mamula what he thinks about combine numbers...

and last time i checked gocong set records for sacks in d1aa. he turned out super. stats and combine numbers don’t mean a whole lot sometimes.

by awd777 on Apr 24, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

You cited two different people there, each with just one of those characteristics. You’re arguing another thing entirely.

DTN has combine numbers AND the production in a major conference to back that up.

Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.

by alcatraz0109 on Apr 24, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

really?

combine numbers is your reasoning? Sorry, i don’t buy that. Highlights don’t mean shit either… anyone can make themselves look like superstars with 3 minutes of clips from 4 years of college. Reputation matters. If you’re a scary dude, a force to be reckoned with, then people will know you. If you’ve established a reputation then that goes a long way. this guy has none. he isn’t a powerhouse and he was taken in the third round.

Eagles.

by #1EaglesFan on Apr 24, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha so are you trying to say the more people know about you, the less likely you are to bust? That’s god awful reasoning, and much worse than a combine workout and a highlight reel. Besides, he was in the Pac-10, on a terrible team…when was the last time you watched a Washington game?

I’ll take the Eagles FO’s opinion over yours, cause unlike you and me, they get to watch the game tape on these guys…every single play that they want.

by BreckBirds20 on Apr 24, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not about being a bust or not. It’s about value. If nobody knows the guy, why get him in the 3rd round when guys who played for great schools in tough conferences and have had tougher competition (who are much more likely to succeed) are still on the board?

I don’t know if he’s going to be a bust or not, we just could have waited for him. I doubt any team would be chomping at the bit to get him because of his combine numbers.

Eagles.

by #1EaglesFan on Apr 25, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

We, the fans, might not know about the guy, but you can bet that other teams know about the guy, they do their HW. The Eagles felt the need to be aggressive and pick him up before any other teams did. They had the luxury to do this because they still had 9 picks left at the time. I have read in several places that teams were looking at him in the 3-5 rounds…not the 6-undrafted like some here are saying.

You pick based on your own draft board, not based on national recognition. Its a similar situation with the Graham trade, maybe he wasn’t going to be picked by the Giants or Titans, and we could of gotten him later, for cheaper than we did. But the Eagles calculated the risk of that happening, stuck to their draft board, and made the trade to pick Graham. If you really like a player, you go out and get him before another team does.

by BreckBirds20 on Apr 25, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

obviously

i don’t have nearly the info the FO does and i have no idea what goes on inside that war room. I don’t have access to his tape or any of that.

My original point was saying that one thing i do strongly believe is that the Eagles didn’t select him because of his combine numbers. And when people say “look at him combine numbers” or “his highlight reel is good” I say “who gives a shit. look at his school. look at his competition. look at his reputation. this seems like a ‘roll the dice’ pick in the 3rd round.”

I think you have good points, and you’re certainly not wrong. obviously the FO has an idea and they are going for it. It just sucks when multiple better, proven college fooball players are still there in the 3rd. I personally didn’t like it. it’s my opinion. Unfortunately (or more like, fortunately) my opinion weighs an ant’s asshair in comparison to the guys inside.

Eagles.

by #1EaglesFan on Apr 25, 2010 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, look at his school. University of Washington. Big school.

 Look at his competition, PAC-10. He played against schools like USC, Cal, & Oregon. Major conference, very high level of competition.

Look at his production. All time schooler leader in sacks. Two time all PAC-10 player. Really good production.

This isn’t Chris Gocong from D1A Cal Poly. This is a very productive player from a major school that plays major competition. This is a proven college football player in every sense of the word.

by JasonB on Apr 25, 2010 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rep matters?

Tony Mandarich was hailed as the “Next Big Thing” by Sports Illustrated.

People thought Ryan Leaf would be a better QB than Peyton Manning.

Had you ever heard of Trent Cole and Brent Celek before they were taken by us?

Point is, rep really doesn’t matter. Talent matters. The way Reid and Roseman see them matters. Not the way the fans perceive them.

If the draft went by fan perception, Tim Tebow and Taylor Mays would go undrafted and Colt McCoy would go 4th overall. That’s not how it works. Leave the true evaluation to the professionals.

Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.

by alcatraz0109 on Apr 24, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

On Tebow

People act like the kid has good character, but doesn’t belong on a football field. John Clayton said you might as well draft choir boys…

The dude was INCREDIBLE in college. Granted, it was a different system than the NFL, and there are some question marks about whether he’ll be able to transition well, but since he’s been successful at every level he’s played in so far, I don’t understand why people won’t give him the benefit of the doubt.

Everyone might be right, he might be a bust…BUT he also might just be a good athlete and quick learner. I’m gonna root for the kid, if he turns out to be a bust, o-well.

"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)

by jalarsen1 on Apr 25, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, I’m with you. I think he could be great. Best QB in this draft in my opinion.

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by DeSean10 on Apr 25, 2010 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

possibly

Bradford played in a spread offense and he’s coming off shoulder surgery, thrust into a situation where he’s likely the starter on day 1…and he’s supposed to be AWESOME!

Tebow has shown the determination to work, the ability to be successful, and has the time in Denver to do it without any pressure…the situation alone seems to be more prone to be successful

"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)

by jalarsen1 on Apr 25, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should add

that the biggest knock on Tebow is that he played in a spread offense. Why is this a bigger deal for Tebow than anyone else in that position? It only really matters to a QB that needs to be ready to start day 1. It’s the same with receivers. Yes…WRs that came from prostyle offenses generally are better early, but there is no data to suggest that they’re more successful over the span of a career

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by jalarsen1 on Apr 25, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s not the biggest knock on Tebow. The biggest knock is his delivery, followed by accuracy, & ability to read defenses. It’s not the spread offense that’s the problem, it’s what he did in it.

by JasonB on Apr 25, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Without any pressure?

Really? The team traded it’s franchise QB and then traded up in the first round for Tebow. He’s under tremendous pressure and isn’t going to have years to sit on the bench.

Josh McDaniels won’t be there in 3 years if it takes that long to get Tebow on the field. He’s got one at most to sit and learn.

by JasonB on Apr 25, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I only say 'without pressure'

because no one is expecting him to start right away. His flaws have been endlessly documented, and the pick of him has been absolutely ridiculed. Yes, for McDaniel’s sake, he’ll face pressure to be successful, but no one else seems to expect much.

Orton isn’t bad, he can buy Tebow a year or two

"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)

by jalarsen1 on Apr 25, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe a year, but two for a first round pick? I don’t know what fanbase let alone owner would stand for a first round pick to sit on the sidelines for two years.

If that’s what he needed, that’s why he shouldn’t have been a first round pick.

If after a year he’s not starting the pressure will start to mount on him, the coach, and the organization.

by JasonB on Apr 25, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, come on Jason. Rodgers was picked 24th and Kolb was picked 36th. No, Denver doesn’t have Favre or McNabb, but it’s not like he was a top 10 pick.

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by yomjoseki on Apr 28, 2010 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's style of play is gunna get him killed in the NFL.

I don’t wish anyone to get hurt, but I have a feeling he’s gunna be concussion prone…

by FlyEagles15 on Apr 26, 2010 2:48 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

You don’t know what his reputation is. This guy was named to the all PAC 10 team more than once. He won his team’s defensive MVP award and was team captain. This is a for a big D1 school in a major conference. That’s not a reputation?

He was a really good player in college. We’ll see how his pro career turns out, but it’s silly to act like no one has ever heard of him.

by JasonB on Apr 25, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

good point

I mean just because i never heard of him doesn’t mean no one has and he sucks. But the people who do know about him (excluding our FO) have very few good things to say about his ability to perform at he next level.

But as we know, the draft is a complete crapshoot. Stars and busts are born from every round… I was just hoping to go for a player with a lower risk of being a bust i.e. a player who played at a better school and made his team better…. washington was something like 5-7.

But now here I am opening a new can of worms…. “oh, so because a player is on a bad team, it means he will be an automatic bust?” That’s not what i’m saying at all, my point is that in my humble and often wrong opinion, he was not the best option on the board especially after we drafted Graham 1st rd… ESPECIALLY since we took ZERO offensive lineman.

Eagles.

by #1EaglesFan on Apr 25, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair, there’s not a person connected with the Washington program that wouldn’t say that Te’o didn’t make them better. He was clearly a bright spot for them.

I’m certainly not acting like I think this guy will be good or bad in the pros, I really have no idea. I’m just saying that this is a productive player from a big program that plays against a very high level of competition. Those teams are consistently among the best in college football.

by JasonB on Apr 25, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

At least I didnt give it an F or anything

I like most of the picks, I just think that we missed a few key areas where we couldve gotten some better value at positions we needed

by mccloudbro on Apr 24, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel ok about this draft

They knew where the glaring problems were and made an effort to address them. They were also aggressive here and there. They fact that they went Defense with this draft, again, shows they are trying to get it fixed and get it fixed fast. I don’t agree with Reid very much but the fact that he stated

Really, we went into this off-season wanting to better ourselves on the defensive line and we think that this helps us out and the thing I know with a good defensive line is it makes everyone around them better. So when you have a defensive line that’s getting after it, all of a sudden the corners look a little better and the safeties look a little better and the linebackers look a little better.
Lets me know, he knows whats up!

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by Realtalk32 on Apr 24, 2010 5:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Look at Giants 2008 Superbowl run

Secondary was full of unproven and or rookie players and had an Old LB or two. But their D-Line was ridiculously good which masked some things in their defensive back field! Even the Patriots…Asante is indeed a good player, but was a nickle back there. And Hobbs was very solid for them. But they both have some serious faults yet the Pats D-Line was awesome which masked some of their secondaries faults. Hopefully we get our D-Line goin’!!!

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by Realtalk32 on Apr 24, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

yah...

you can’t compare anything to the Giants…their d’line was Strahan/Tuck/Robbins/Osi…that’s a pretty disgusting line..

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Apr 24, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

what do u mean...AND u just proved my point

The Giants had a nasty D-Line which made their secondary look really good. That is what Reid is trying to do. Create a better D-line to help out or secondary!!!!!

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by Realtalk32 on Apr 24, 2010 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

i mean...

you’re talking bascially bout 3 pro bowlers on a 4 man line…cole is the only beast we have on the line…that’s what im sayin..

i understand your point, and i agree with the philosophy….but you’re comparing what was the best line in the league that year to what the eagles have right now…that’s a bit of a stretch.

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Apr 24, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

no no no

I said that that is what Reid is “trying”…..Trying to do. Know one knows how our new D-Line will pan out as of right now. Thats common sense man. Im simply sayn that if our D-line gets better then our secondary should look better as well. In no way did I claim that our current D-line looks same as the Giants line of 2008. Ur looking wayy to far ahead man. hahaha

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by Realtalk32 on Apr 24, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why is Cole the only pro bowler?

Bunk is pro bowl caliber. If Graham works out then bam we have three.

And to be honest, we don’t really need 3 pro bowlers. If Te’o-Nesheim and Graham and Tapp between the three produce 10 sacks and 60 tackles, we’re in the money. Patterson and Bunk are among the top five DT combos, if DT-N/Tapp/Graham add inside sacks in passrush situations all the better. We have a lot of talent up front now, a lot of fast guys good against both run and pass.

by Alon on Apr 24, 2010 11:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I agree

I don’t need an upgrade on the Bunk/Cole side of the line. And that’s half of it. If we can get even two guys between Laws, Abiamiri, Tapp and the new guys, we’ll look really good

"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)

by jalarsen1 on Apr 25, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

ill start with..

i never said even cole was a pro bowler, i just said he’s the only beast. i love bunkley and cole. patterson is good but wouldnt mind an upgrade. all i was sayin was that line was disgusting, and no offense to our own line, it doesnt compare to that line. if you can’t admit that line was ridiculous, then you gotta take off the green glasses. i really like our line, it was just a comparison to that line that won the giants the super bowl. all we need is a good LE and the line is gonna be damn good, hopefully graham is that end. if he’s cole 2.0, eagles won’t have missed a beat w/ this transition.

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Apr 26, 2010 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Woah

I’m not claiming anything about our line approaching that line. It could, if Graham turns out and our other draftees turn up the heat, approximate that line effectively enough.

And Cole is obviously a beast & Pro Bowler, so while i see that you’re picking nits, I think the distinction is kind of a silly one. If someone’s pro-bowl caliber, they’re probably a beast, and vice versa (depending on what you mean by beast)

by Alon on Apr 26, 2010 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

the point..

our line is not as sick as that line.
didnt say anything bout pro bowlers on our line.

"Eagles fans are a passionate group who love their team," said McNabb, "if not the actual players. It's not like winning a Super Bowl before the first month of the season is the hardest thing they've ever asked of me. That'd be all those times they asked me to go kill myself."

by greenbean#twoOH on Apr 26, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only thing i'm worried about is O-line and CB

other than thought this draft was terrific

Graham and Allen = A

Daniel Te’o-Nesheim = C-

Trevard Lindley = C

Keenan Clayton= C-

Mike Kafka = B-

Clay Harbor = B

Ricky Sapp = B

Riley Cooper = B

Charles Scott = B+

Jamar Chaney = B

Jeff Owens = ?

Kurt Coleman = ?

"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins

"Yeah, I like to hit people"
-Brandon Graham

by immynimmy on Apr 24, 2010 5:20 PM EDT reply actions  

my personal grades...

based on value at pick

  1. Brandon Graham DE Michigan – B+
  1. Nate Allen S USF – A-
  1. Daniel Te’o-Nesheim DE Washington – F
  1. Trevard Lindley CB Kentucky – C
  1. Keenan Clayton LB Oklahoma – D
  1. Mike Kafka QB Northwestern – B-
  1. Clay Harbor TE Missouri State – B-
  1. Ricky Sapp DE Clemson – B-
  1. Riley Cooper WR Florida – B+
  1. Charles Scott RB LSU – B
  1. Jamar Chaney LB Mississippi State – B+
  1. Jeff Owens DT Georgia – N/A
  1. Kurt Coleman S Ohio State – N/A

this would probably average to a C+ which i think is fair. te-o is the huge outlier on this one, but it is what it is. i think the middle of the draft was horrible, but it could have been worse i guess. hopefully some of these players can prove me wrong.

by awd777 on Apr 24, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

come on, give graham an A-

this guy is the REAL DEAL, guaranteed

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-Brian Dawkins

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-Brandon Graham

by immynimmy on Apr 24, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

i can't...

he cost us 2 3rd rounders, and i can’t let that go. we teachers are human after all.

by awd777 on Apr 24, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with all these

except graham, graham i would give an A

by Desean Da Man on Apr 24, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Only thing i’m worried about is O-line and CB

Completely agree.

other than that I love it.

by Smitty2K3 on Apr 24, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah o-Line is makin me nervous

I hope Hobbs can fill in at corner and be decent. Anyone know how j. Jacksons rehab is going? Is he expected to be ready come season opener?

by FlyEagles15 on Apr 26, 2010 2:53 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

B+

I see at least 3 starters who could contribute coming out of training camp this year. With at least another 3 or 4 guys who could be rotational type guys or big special teams players. This will be a interesting draft class to watch develop and it should be interesting to see what kind of undrafted free agents we are going to bring in.

by Uiruru on Apr 24, 2010 5:21 PM EDT reply actions  

If I had to choose 2 words to describe this draft they would be...

“Surprising” and “hyperactive”
Surprising because:
1) No offensive line drafted
2) Less emphasis on the secondary than I expected (which was considered the biggest hole on the team going into the draft)
3) All those defensive linemen – I looked over some draft predictions here on BGN (Route36’s challenge) and while some people predicted Te’o-Nesheim, nobody predicted him, Sapp, and Graham. I think McDermott wants to build a set of sack monsters.
4) Some players that were definite under-the-radar picks: Harbor, Lindley, Kafka, Scott, Cooper

Hyperactive because of all those trades up, down, and sideways.

Most conventional / predictable pick: Allen
Caught everyone by surprise: trading up for Graham, getting Sapp after Te’o-Nesheim (and after drafting both him and Graham)
Probable frequent fan outbursts: “Who?” “No corner yet?” “How could we pass on (insert hot prospect)?”
I hope this means: 2 of Cole, McGlynn, and Andrews are ready to start games

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by Rabbit T on Apr 24, 2010 5:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I whole heartedly agree on your final point.

This better mean that we’re ready to go on our O-Line day-1.

I think this probably speaks volumes for McGlynn.

by corn on the kolb on Apr 24, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agree

I also think it means we hit OL hard in the ’11 draft.

I’m glad we fortified the defense with this draft though.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Apr 24, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think OL and CB will be the focus next year.

Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.

by alcatraz0109 on Apr 24, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Out of all of these picks

i think i can see 2 immediate started in graham and allen

By the way did anyone see Brandon Graham swim and spin moves? His spin move was PERFECTION, best i have ever seen out of college

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by immynimmy on Apr 24, 2010 5:22 PM EDT reply actions  

You must not have seen Freeney at Syracuse

Homer: Aw, twenty dollars! I wanted a peanut!
Homer's Brain: Twenty dollars can buy many peanuts!
Homer: Explain how!
Homer's Brain: Money can be exchanged for goods and services!
Homer: Woo-hoo!

by bigbluethruandthru on Apr 25, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s why everyone seems to compare him to Freeney.

by JasonB on Apr 25, 2010 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll give it an F. Because you can’t spell “effing right” without an F.

RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.

by Imp on Apr 24, 2010 5:22 PM EDT reply actions  

hahaha nice

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by Realtalk32 on Apr 24, 2010 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

This draft deserves a solid A.

The potential in these players is almost limitless. I think all of these guys have the potential to make a measurable impact on the Eagles in one form or another. Not all of them will (it’s just how things work), but I couldn’t tell you who will be disasters for sure.

And while I might have wanted to see at least one OL drafted, I’m not going to despair; I think that last year’s problems can be solved by having a year to gel (and have better health).

Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.

by alcatraz0109 on Apr 24, 2010 5:25 PM EDT reply actions  

i'm very surprised we didn't draft OL.

there’s no way that we’re happy with queen dunlap.

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by snowhill82 on Apr 24, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

We still have Tupou.

And we’ll surely bring in a UFA or three to try to beat him out.

Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.

by alcatraz0109 on Apr 24, 2010 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to mention

if they really had to, they’d move Andrews or Herremans out if it were for a long period of time.

Either that or I’m just way down on Dunlap.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Apr 24, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

A solid A?

Drafting Terence Trent D’Arby in the third round as the backup to the backup to Tapp? What? We need to come to our collective senses around here. C is average. This was average. This is a C draft.

...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.

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by EvilBanner on Apr 24, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wrong middling DE prospect

by bigmeanie08 on Apr 24, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like all the young guys

More competition, less hesitant to stick their nose in there, pressure on some vets to get going… overall a solid, solid draft

by BigJakes111 on Apr 24, 2010 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

A-

Chaney and Scott picks at the end made me :)

5 of those players are possible starters.

Jim Johnson(RIP). Brian Westbrook(36). Donovan Mcnabb(5). Brian Dawkins(20). Sheldon Brown(24). Jeremiah Trotter(54).

Thanks for the memories...

by Route36 on Apr 24, 2010 5:27 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Loved the Chaney pick, too. Steal in the 7th.

by JimmyK on Apr 24, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

was projected as late 3rd early 4th

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"Yeah, I like to hit people"
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by immynimmy on Apr 24, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

5?

who? where?

"Buy low sell high!"

by Dmyth13 on Apr 24, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed... i see 3 at the highest...

offense is already set.

defense will probably be…

rde – cole
dt – patterson
dt- bunkley
lde – graham
will – sims
mlb – bradley
sam – one of the rookies
cb – hobbs
cb – samuel
fs – jackson or allen
ss – mikell

by awd777 on Apr 24, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

4...

if you consider we essentially spent a 5th-rounder for Ernie Sims

Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.

by alcatraz0109 on Apr 24, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

ernie sims wasn't in the 2010 draft, silly...

but if you want to play that game, we lost a starter (donovan mcnabb) for a draft pick so your 4 minus donovan’s 1 still equals 3.

math is power!

by awd777 on Apr 24, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

touche

Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.

by alcatraz0109 on Apr 24, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Notice how I said “possible”, not guaranteed. Lindley also might start at right corner mid-season. One of the rookie backers also could win the WILL job over Sims.

Jim Johnson(RIP). Brian Westbrook(36). Donovan Mcnabb(5). Brian Dawkins(20). Sheldon Brown(24). Jeremiah Trotter(54).

Thanks for the memories...

by Route36 on Apr 24, 2010 11:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well, that all depends on if any of these guys can play…

That said, offensive line would be the obvious thing they didn’t take. Although, If Stacy Andrews can actually play than O-line isn’t that big of a deal. Obviously I’m skeptical about him though.

by JasonB on Apr 24, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

My impression is that Reid feels they are set there

Otherwise there were several moves that could have been made: Fraley, Rabach, or Mawae, for example, or a different free agent signing, or a trade for someone. I think the lack of an o-line pick in this draft says pretty conclusively that Reid felt one wasn’t needed. Let’s hope he’s right.

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by Rabbit T on Apr 24, 2010 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe they'll take a loan on Faneca?

One year deal and address OL in the draft with a high pick next year? Maybe?

by bigmeanie08 on Apr 24, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't think he's right.

He thought that same shit last year. What happened?

...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.

Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer

by EvilBanner on Apr 24, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Injuries, slow recoveries, and unready backups. Only the last one can be considered partially the coach’s fault.

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by Rabbit T on Apr 25, 2010 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still don’t like the picture at RCB.

by Greg M on Apr 24, 2010 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed

Carlos Rogers anyone???

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-Brian Dawkins

"Yeah, I like to hit people"
-Brandon Graham

by immynimmy on Apr 24, 2010 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

It really isn't

Especially with an improved rush

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Apr 24, 2010 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

they might have helped it

with lindley and after reid’s comments yesterday it seems like the safeties are in the mix too

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by sctrojan13 on Apr 24, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

A-

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by NorthPhillyKid on Apr 24, 2010 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

B

Because it was a really well-managed draft— lot of smart moves, really great first and second round picks, couple of late round steal-type picks. It’s not an A though, cuz we only got one corner and no OL. If they’re planning on signing Faneca in the next day or two, then that might push this to a B+/A- situation.

Some of these players will be good, some won’t. It’s a good thing they got 13.

by bigmeanie08 on Apr 24, 2010 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

A-

Still shocked at the fact that we didn’t get any offensive linemen. But overall, this has been one hell of a draft. I don’t remember moving around that many times since…ever, maybe.

by LegendKnight22 on Apr 24, 2010 5:34 PM EDT reply actions  

A

Ranking the draft in terms of direct need for the team, and considering everything, I give a simple grade of A. Not A-, not A+, just A.

Absolutely our Front Office masterfully manipulated the generation of extra draft picks. I had/have no complaints about any of the trade downs. Extra picks are gold.

I think everyone agrees- Graham and Allen are both solid picks who should start as soon as they have a number assigned.

I don’t mind getting depth on the d-line, considering how we do rotate. But… why so many high motor people if we’re rotating so heavily? I’m not giving up on Victor or Laws yet, and I understand not all the DE’s we drafted are DE’s, but still.

I’d rather have seen OL picked up somewhere in the 5th and 6th, and one corner taken somewhere in the first 3 rounds.

Ideally, I think I’d have sat pat on round 1 and drafted McCourty (or best available) and still snatched a safety in round 2. As it worked out, we ended up with T’O (is this what we’re going to call him for short? you know, with the apostrophe and all?) and 34,256 other rotational guys. And we’d be walking away with a quality starting CB.

If we wanted to trade up into 1, why not take Graham, Allen where we got him, and take Sean Lee ourselves? tbh he’s a fit. Or chill like we did and nab a random O-Lineman (some huge OT’s went around this area).

Or, make an investment of Colt McCoy. Having two quality young QB’s on the roster worked out for the Chargers. Colt McCoy would have been added value either dealing him or Kolb in 2-3 years. We get our pick back, our choice of the two QB’s, and someone I think would have been a homerun in our system.

But, lots of solid special team additions at the end raise the rank to simply an A.

I’d prefer to see 2 less DE’s, and some type of addition to our O-Line.

by corn on the kolb on Apr 24, 2010 5:34 PM EDT reply actions  

you don;t want a guy behind kolb

esp a young guy, who will be like kolbs shadow the whole season, and whenever kolb messes up people will be screaming to trade him and go with mccoy. i don’t think that would help him mentally. Instead they got a qb, who they can teach but won’t be ready to go for 3 or 4 years, by that time the jury will def be out on Kolb.

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by RiotJuice on Apr 24, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clearly a grade of D-poor draft management

Numerous screwups Roseman-Reid. Paying way too high a price for T’eo. Messed up the sequence getting a cornerback, no O-line picks. out and out sucks!

by DaveinWestChester on Apr 24, 2010 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

D? What are you smoking?

Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.

by alcatraz0109 on Apr 24, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

""Five cornerbacks went in the first round on Thursday and another five went in the second and third rounds yesterday. Three of those corners – Jerome Murphy of South Florida, Amari Spievey of Iowa and Myron Lewis of Vanderbilt – went in succession at the top of the third round after the Eagles traded down out of the second round with the Cowboys.""

by DaveinWestChester on Apr 24, 2010 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

""and then didn’t pick again until 49 selections later when they drafted a defensive end, Daniel Te’o-Nesheim of Washington, who was projected as a sixth- or seventh-rounder by many draft analysts. Te’o-Nesheim obviously seemed to believe those projections, because he wasn’t even watching the draft last night when the Eagles called him to let him know they were taking him with the 22nd pick in the third round.""

by DaveinWestChester on Apr 24, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Two questions.

1. How do you know Lindley won’t be better than any of the early 3rd-rounders? He seems like he could develop into a good complement to Asante, and having Jauron sure will help.

2. Why are you so down on Te’o-Nesheim? The guy was a superb pass rusher in a top conference, and put up extraordinary numbers at the Combine. Go to Stampede Blue, and you will find guys there hoping they would get him in the 2ND ROUND. He has tremendous upside, lots more than nearly all of the other DEs left, and showed better athleticism and numbers than JPP or Morgan.

Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.

by alcatraz0109 on Apr 24, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Surely you mean it’s a D because you don’t like the players selected, and not because you think it was a poorly-managed draft?

They turned pick 55 into FIVE picks.

by bigmeanie08 on Apr 24, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Poorly managed draft. Gave up quality picking positions, 5 picks in the first 87 picks, for players that will be lucky to make special teams. They went for quantity, not quality. And even then, they still screwed it up with the trade-down with the Cowboys!

by DaveinWestChester on Apr 24, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who do you prefer?

Sean Lee?

Or Daniel Te’o-Nesheim, Mike Kafka, Clay Harbor, Ricky Sapp, AND Riley Cooper?

Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.

by alcatraz0109 on Apr 24, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

5 vs 1

thats easy………1(jk)

"Buy low sell high!"

by Dmyth13 on Apr 24, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cooper + Sapp easily worth Sean Lee by themselves

And as a PSU fan, I have a lot of respect for Sean Lee coming back from that injury. I don’t think any team really screwed up in this draft. Two things I noticed:

1) The era of the gigantic players might be coming to an end. Faster, smaller players on defense may be the next trend.

2) I know a lot of them stayed on for another year, but can’t remember a draft with so few Ohio State players!!

by donniethelion on Apr 24, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thadius Gibson was the only buckeye drafted before the 7th round

and 3 buckeyes were taken in the 7th, including our very own Kurt Coleman

by Manoovi on Apr 24, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fuck the buckeyes

B-GRAHAM WASSUP

GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!

by tanman5 on Apr 24, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

They started with: 24, 37, 55, 70, 87, 105, 121, 200, 243, and 244

They picked: 13, 37, 86, 105, 121, 122, 125, 134, 159, 200, 220, 243, and 244.

Instead of 5 picks in the top 87, they had 7 in the top half, or 8 in the top 134, or 9 in the top 159.

More picks = more players they like, more players they like = greater chance of having successful players, regardless of how many picks they have in the top [insert arbitrary number].

by bigmeanie08 on Apr 24, 2010 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

More picks = better

And in this draft, quantity DOES equal quality, infact it greatly increases your chances of getting quality. Obviously the Eagles felt there wasn’t that huge of a difference between players in the late 2nd and players in the 4th and 5th.

by BreckBirds20 on Apr 24, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

There's no way you can know this
for players that will be lucky to make special teams.

That’s a flimsy opinion.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Apr 24, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well there's something to be said for ...

… turning one pick into five, given that even first-rounders tend to flame out at a high rate. It’s never a bad idea, especially in a draft everyone agrees was flush with prospects well into the later rounds, to add as many as you can to increase the odds of finding gems.

Overall, we needed to bolster the D, and bringing in 9 guys on that side of the ball is a good thing. The name recognition leaves something to be desired, but in the end all that matters is whether or not they produce.

But, there is something to DaveinWestChester’s points … particularly with the Teo pick and the Oklahoma LB … if those guys were projected to go much later, then perception is reality when it comes to “value.” If you can draft another player you like and still end up with the same guy much later, especially when you have a bunch of later picks, then you mismanaged. I read where JasonB said it’s a crapshoot after the third (I tend to agree) and where Bye,Dawk said it’s not wise to get too cute … AND I love how the Eagles target who they want and go get him. Still though, the science of draft management is real. If you take a guy in the third who could’ve been had in the 5th (not that you could ever know that), it’s a legitimate gripe.

All that said, BGN is not a place prone to random bouts of positivity. The fact that the draft as a whole was so well-received (I actually cooled on it a lot because of Day 3, but to each his own) is a really good sign.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Apr 24, 2010 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

“If you take a guy in the third who could’ve been had in the 5th (not that you could ever know that), it’s a legitimate gripe.”

That’s the important point. You can never know. I’d rather have the players I want then to have a bunch of ESPN pundits telling me I got great “value” the next day.

by JasonB on Apr 25, 2010 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

Once we get to Lehigh & beyond, it only matters if they produce, not where they were taken.

And obviously the Birds had a grade on him worthy of being picked there.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Apr 26, 2010 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

13 picks! This is pretty crazy, but if we can get 2-3 starters and 4-5 backups, it will be a great draft. I split my reactions in Nice, good,huh, don’t know them
Nice:
I love Brandon Graham, Im not sure if Im crazy about him as 13.pick overall. I really look forward to see him in TC and I think he has a great shot at starting LDE.

Nate Allen is an awesome pick up. I think he is a safety that will fit in our system and with some coaching from Jauron he should be able to earn the starting role from day 1.

Riley Cooper had a great value at the end of 5th, he is a tall WR with nice hands and will be a great target in the RZ. He wont be a speedy WR, but we got other guys to fill that role.

Charles Scott is a great pick up, nice value in the 6th. He is a big bruiser. He should be able to put down his shoulders and get the needed yards in short yardage and GL situations.

LB Jamar Chaney in 7th is steal! I really like this guy and I have a feeling that he will surprise many of us including coaches!

Good:
Ricky Sapp wasnt needed after TO and Brandon Graham, but his value in 5th was just too great to pass up. He is an athletic guy and Im sure we will find a way to use his skills.

Clay Harbor is an athletic freak! He got great skills and will be another RZ target, unfortunately he isnt a good blocker.

Huh?:
Danie Te’o-Neishem is a reach! I mean is he really so great, that we wouldnt get him later on in the draft? I hope they knew what they were doing. He sounds like an interesting player that will needed a couple of years to develope.

Keenan Clayton same question as Te’o. I feel he was a reach, there were better players out there that could help us.

QB Mike Kafka. We needed a 3rd QB, but Kafka? There were deffinetly more exciting guys out there then Kafka with one year starting experience and shaky skills.

Don’t know them:
CB Lindley
DT Owens
SS Coleman
cant say anything about them, because I have no idea who they are.

Overall:
I will give our draft a strong B. I would like to see more secondary players and a pick up of an developement OL guy. I hope that we will be able to get Ciron Black and/or Brandon Carter in RFA. We were aggresive when needed, we turned our 2nd round into 5 picks and I think its a great job from our FO. We will see in a two three years how deep this draft was and how we did it. I have a feeling though that we will be surprised by some guys that we have drafted today.

by Isi_eagle on Apr 24, 2010 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Our agenda was sack Romo!

Graham = A

Allen= B+

Daniel Te’o-Nesheim = F we could of got him much later

Trevard Lindley = C-

Keenan Clayton= D+

Mike Kafka = C+

Clay Harbor = A-

Ricky Sapp = B

Riley Cooper = C- Not sure where he fits

Charles Scott = B Our GL/short ydg back! yay!!!

Jamar Chaney = B+ Great value here

Jeff Owens = C+ Clearly drafted to stop the run

Kurt Coleman = C I dont know much about him.

Overall grade B-/C+(cant decide) Im not sure who will be our other starting CB opposite Asante but it was evident the Eagles are putting more emphasis on pass rushing and speed/coverage LB’s. I love that all of our picks were high motor high effort players. I think we drafted only two starters and thats why I gave such a low grade.

"Buy low sell high!"

by Dmyth13 on Apr 24, 2010 5:35 PM EDT reply actions  

I count 3

Sapp at SAM, Graham at LDE, and Allen at FS.

by bigmeanie08 on Apr 24, 2010 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sapp

was that their intention for him? Or is he going to be a DE rotation?

"Buy low sell high!"

by Dmyth13 on Apr 24, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

SAM

"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins

"Yeah, I like to hit people"
-Brandon Graham

by immynimmy on Apr 24, 2010 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read it somewhere

I’ll try to find it—

But his size and scouting reports really suggest a fit at SAM, and given that that’s a need, I could easily see him there. I just have a hard time believing that they took eighty-four DEs with the intention of putting them all in a rotation.

by bigmeanie08 on Apr 24, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

  1. CB is marlin jackson

by ieatcrayons on Apr 24, 2010 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

I watched him say the eagles brought him in for S. I mean if he can still run CB is still possible. I guess we will see.

"Buy low sell high!"

by Dmyth13 on Apr 24, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea before we got nate allen we were gonna put him at a diff position now he is the 2 CB

by ieatcrayons on Apr 25, 2010 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

I just like Ricky Sapp a little more and Riley Cooper a lot less.

by topcat6 on Apr 24, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Things I Liked About This Draft

 1.) The mind-boggling way in which we moved back, accummulated a ridiculous amount of picks, and still seemed to get the guys our front office wanted.

2.) Overkill on drafting pass rushers. Whether a few of these guys convert to different positions or not, you have to figure our pass rush got a lot better after this years draft. We seemed determined to hit on a good pass rusher this year, and I think that will pan out.

3.) Drafting a bruising RB who can also block, as well as a TE who can block, as well as one of the top blocking WR from the collegiate level. Here’s to hoping our short-yardage problems are gone for a long time. Who knows, we may even run a little more this year.

4.) Drafting high-character players who are extremely motivated to play the game of football. Nothing to add here, I just love the philosophy.

5.) Andy Reid’s hilarious interview, complete with hawaiian shirt, Sal Pal jokes, and even rowdy Eagles fans in the crowd yelling “Run the ball!”

"THIS IS NOT COLLEGE NO MORE. THIS IS THE BIG MAN SPORT." ~Crazy Lady on BGN forums

by southjersey89 on Apr 24, 2010 5:39 PM EDT reply actions  

"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins

"Yeah, I like to hit people"
-Brandon Graham

by immynimmy on Apr 24, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

looks like a hawaiian puked on 50’s wallpaper and turned it into a moomoo. man, he looks ridiculous.

by awd777 on Apr 24, 2010 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll give Andy's draft wardrobe an F

As much as you’ll all hate to read this, I can’t give an intelligent opinion for a couple of seasons. Four picks in the 4th round is great, but if none of them are on the roster in 2013, it doesn’t do you a bit of good.

I don’t really follow college football enough to give an intelligent opinion. So, I’ll give an unintelligent one

I like getting a developmental QB in the 4th. I read some nice things about Kafka. I liked the potential of Jevan Snead, but evidently I was the only one since he went undrafted.

Clay Harbor is an interesting pick. Sounds like he could be a real sleeper and could even contribute at fullback if needed. Makes me wonder how confident the Eagles are that Cornelius Ingram can come back.

Drafting 3 defensive ends seems like a lot. Especially when they already have Trent Cole and Tapp on the roster.

Sometimes it's just fun to take the family for a spin around the lake in the old boat. Even if it's not your family or your boat, and they're screaming for you to stop.

by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Apr 24, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

How it relates to Ingram. I’m not sure that It says that they’re done with him. Fact is that Alex Smith is gone and they needed another TE regardless. They could easily carry 3 TEs instead of two.

He could absolutely be seen as a hedge against Ingram, but they could certainly have all 3. I’m sure they’ll do that in the short term at least.

by JasonB on Apr 25, 2010 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll play devils advocate with you on Harbor

Could they have drafted Harbor more to help out in the backfield than as a 2nd or 3rd TE? Is it possible they see him as the future heir apparent at fullback a couple seasons down the line?

But I will also agree, it’s not like they’ve never had 3 tight ends. Granted, it was when they had Bartrum and he was more of a long snapper than TE, but he would see some time at TE in goal line situations.

Sometimes it's just fun to take the family for a spin around the lake in the old boat. Even if it's not your family or your boat, and they're screaming for you to stop.

by Baron Dainer Von Tresvant on Apr 25, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

"Buy low sell high!"

by Dmyth13 on Apr 24, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked how Reid handled the fan yelling “run the ball”.

We all occasionally yell it, but tbh, throwing is still far more entertaining.

Winning is entertaining, too. But we win our fair share with chucking the ol’ rock around.

by corn on the kolb on Apr 24, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

That dude posted on one of the BGN threads right after he yelled

or so he claimed.

I need a link to this video, I did not see it.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Apr 24, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t admit to being an asshat in public.

But I guess its why we get such a bad rap.

by corn on the kolb on Apr 24, 2010 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I loved our draft the only things I would of liked different is picking either Walter Thurmond III or Akwasi Owusu-Ansah over Trevard Lindley. I admit that I don’t know much about him and the more I read the more I am fine with the pick although some say that he is only going to be a nickle CB, and take Donovan Warren over Jeff Owens.

by The Legend on Apr 24, 2010 5:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Mike Kafka over Dan LeFevour??

by DannyO on Apr 24, 2010 5:43 PM EDT reply actions  

that confused me too

i think he is more well suited for the WCO

"If I can get you to think twice, I'm in your head."
-Brian Dawkins

"Yeah, I like to hit people"
-Brandon Graham

by immynimmy on Apr 24, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ray Diddy had said a few days ago he thought the eagles would take Kafka cause of how well he thought Kafka would fit our system…

DeSEAN JACKSON THE 10NE

by TheILLadeph on Apr 24, 2010 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Much better fit.

I see QB controversy tbh, next year. or is it this year?

When do the “years” offically switch over? Is Kolbs first season this year, or next year still?

hm…

by corn on the kolb on Apr 24, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I remember everyone questioning Reid’s choice of Kolb over Beck and Edwards including Ray Didinger

I'm not drunk I'm just drinking.

by no1pipelayer on Apr 24, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very true. QB is one area where I completely defer to Reid on. He knows what he’s doing.

by JasonB on Apr 25, 2010 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm still disappointed

that we didn’t take Skelton

About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.

by IronHank on Apr 25, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I give it a B-

There were some really good picks and a few head scratchers. I thought.

I like Graham as a player, I didn’t like him in that spot and for that cost to move up. I LOVED the Nate Allen pick, it was a need and at value. I hate that we drafted two more DEs after that, even if one moves to SAM I just don’t like it. I didn’t care too much for the WR pick either, don’t really care how talented the guy is, our WR corps is deep. I liked that we got a lot of players on the defensive side of the ball, we needed a lot of help back there. However I felt going into this draft that O-line was among our largest needs and really the only one on the offensive side of the ball besides another QB. This is where the draft went from a b/b+ to a b- for me, they totally ignored it. Maybe they have something in the works but I’m not too optimistic of the line right now and they didnt even draft for depth.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Apr 24, 2010 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

so how was our WR corps deep?

we needed a developmental guy, preferably with size to compliment our smallish speedsters.

My "t" and "y" buttons are messed up so don't bitch at me about misspelling, I'm just saying.

by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Apr 24, 2010 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just think that O-Line was a much greater need than WR.

"We are not normal, We are Legends. People will tell their kids about us." - Deon Butler before Ohio State Game 2008.

by Rogue Nine on Apr 25, 2010 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Eagles actually have picks from recent years on the roster to compete on the O-line. McGlynn & Tuopu come to mind.

They really don’t have anyone at WR. Hank Baskett and a bunch of a UDFAs.

I’m sure that weighed into their decision. PLus, I would imagine they thought Cooper was the best player there. If they did think that, he was the right pick. I don’t care what position he plays, he was the right pick.

by JasonB on Apr 25, 2010 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

As always, Eagles filled a bunch of needs

C
If we could have replaced Keenan Clayton with AJ Edds that would have been a mjor improvement. Sapp coverting to SAM will not go well (again with the Gocong expt?). Edds would have been an average starter for 4 years and has lots of experience at LB. I am sure the Dolphins traded above us to get him (and they do not even run a 4-3).

Not at all pleased with the starting corners. Samuel can beat defeat by WR screen and the other side is a wasteland of hope. The really needed to get one of the top4 CBs.

Suprised we did not draft backup LT type. I am hoping McGlynn becomes starter C and Cole pushes Andrews at RG.

The names (other than Clayton) seem like good players with some upside but also obvious shortcomings.

by phxphilly on Apr 24, 2010 5:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Clayton has speed, Edds doesn’t.

It’s that simple. The NFL is a fast league. That’s why the Eagles picked guys like Clayton and Chaney

by JasonB on Apr 25, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is it too soon to guess the Eagles 2010 Roster?

Why even bother with Training Camp?
QB: Kolb, Vick, Kafka
RB: McCoy, Bell, Scott
FB: Weaver
TE: Celek, Ingram, Harbor
WR: Jackson, Maclin, Avant, Cooper, Baskett
OT: Peters, Justice, Tupou, Dunlap
OG: Herremans, Andrews, Jean-Gilles
OC: Cole, McGlynn, (Jackson on PUP)

DE: Cole, Graham, Tapp, Parker, Abiamiri
DT: Patterson, Bunkley, Te’O-Neshiem, Dixon, Laws
SAM: Fokou, Sapp
MIKE: Bradley, Gaither
WILL: Sims, Jordan, Clayton
CB: Samuel, Hobbs, Hanson, Lindley
S: Mikell, Allen, Harris, Jackson, Demps
ST: Akers, Brooks, Dorenbos

Hopefully I did not forget anybody. I gave the incumbents the benefit over the 7th rounders so Laws, Gaither, and Demps all make the team. Dunlap makes it because we need LT backup and did not draft any OL. (13 picks and not a single OL. What happened to Andy!) 10 draft picks make the team (that has to be a record) though I expect some to be on IR.

Key Cuts: RB Buckley, TE Rucker, WR C.Hall, C Reynolds, MIKE Mays, SAM A.Hall, CB Patterson, CB Pope, P Rocca (we need a new holder)
Hopeful Practice Squad = 7th Rounders MIKE Chaney, DT Owens, SS Coleman, and possibly WR Norwood and C Shipley

by phxphilly on Apr 24, 2010 6:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Never hurts to take an early crack at it ...

… I think Alex Hall is gonna be here when it’s said and done. They went and got this guy.

Buckley/Rucker/Hall are all gonna have a chance to stick too. Good look on keeping Brooks :)

For a lot of our picks, I’m sure it remains to be seen whether or not they earn jobs. I don’t have an opinion on many of them, but I’m eager to get to Lehign and form one.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Apr 24, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I concour with Hall. He’s going to hang around and do some special things on special teams. Come in in situational places, and could see serious play time

by corn on the kolb on Apr 24, 2010 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet one or two rookies get put on IR

Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.

by alcatraz0109 on Apr 24, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

From a papercut.

RIP Jim Johnson, best ever.

by Imp on Apr 24, 2010 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly.

Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.

by alcatraz0109 on Apr 24, 2010 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's how WE roll

Until they change the rule.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Apr 24, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s not even a question. One of the defensive ends, maybe a linebacker.

by JasonB on Apr 25, 2010 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pope is better than Asante

come on bro! you know that

"Buy low sell high!"

by Dmyth13 on Apr 24, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet a lot of our draft picks

end up on practice squad or thereabouts. As mentioned above, some will get mysteriously IR’ed, but the rest will be exposed to the league.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Apr 24, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 things:

I think Vick is worse than Kafka, and opening day chart will reflect that.

Interesting, projecting Te’O into DT. I think he stays rotational on the outside, but I admit I don’t know much about him.

and finally, in the 2ndary, Demps is gone, Jackson and Allen will REALLY compete at FS (contrary to belief), and Macho and Mikell will REALLY compete at SS as well. Yes, Macho is goign to come along that much.

2 of those 4 will start.

by corn on the kolb on Apr 24, 2010 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree on Vick/Kafka

I think people are way underselling Vick’s skills as a QB. He is what he is, but he’s not complete garbage.

Kafka sounds good, but as a 1-year starter, he’ll need some reps before he passes Vick.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Apr 24, 2010 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I concour, Vick is not complete garbage.

I’m just that happy with Kafka. And, I still think we should’ve taken a shot at Colt but shrug. Guess Andy Reid is REALLY sold on Kolb. I’m comfortable with this.

by corn on the kolb on Apr 24, 2010 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think they could really put Macho back at corner.

I think Vick, with a real offseason, is worlds better than Kafka now. Kafka is a purely developmental guy right now.

by JasonB on Apr 25, 2010 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Macho back at corner?

He looked awfully slow at safety, and not much better in coverage there either. Just thinking about him lining up to cover Miles Austin makes me nauseous.

by Team Serbia on Apr 26, 2010 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think you’ll see him covering guys like Austin. I think you might see him in nickel/dime packages on slot receivers, which he did a little bit of last season if I recall correctly.

by BreckBirds20 on Apr 26, 2010 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love that we took 13 players, 9 of them on defense ...

… but has anyone mentioned that some of these guys might have been for Bobby April?

I’m all for creating competition and depth on defense — we had to get younger and get flat-out better if we’re gonna not get used by Dallas on D — but I feel like some of these big/fast linebacker/safety types have to also be able to make an impact on kickoff, KOR, et. al.

You think April is eager to get his mitts on these dudes.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Apr 24, 2010 6:00 PM EDT reply actions  

definitely see some special teams demons in this group

My "t" and "y" buttons are messed up so don't bitch at me about misspelling, I'm just saying.

by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Apr 24, 2010 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

esp. Clayton, Chaney, and Coleman

They could stick out.

Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.

by alcatraz0109 on Apr 24, 2010 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Funny enough

Brandon Graham might have been the best s/t player in college out of the whole bunch.

by JasonB on Apr 25, 2010 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depth Chart

Okay, so here we go.

QB:
Kolb
Kafka
Vick

RB:
McCoy
Bell
Scott (goalline/short yard)

FB:
Weaver
Harbor (split)

WR:
Jackson
Maclin
Avant
Cooper
Basket (situational)

TE:
Celek
Ingram (Injury may slide him down)
Harbor

LT:
Peters
Dunlap (?)

LG:
Herremans
MJG

C:
Jackson (Injury will force him to sit for a few weeks)
McGlynn

RG:
Cole
Andrews

RT:
Justice
Andrews

DE: (I’m not sure about the rotational assignments or the preferred side for about half of these, but I think they will all make it to the final roster)
Cole (RE)
Graham (LE)
Tapp
Te’o
Abiamiri
Parker

DT:
Patterson
Mr. Bunklesworth
Laws (L)
Dixon®

WILL:
Sims
Jordan
Clayton (may surpass Jordan in camp)

MIKE:
Bradley
Mays

SAM:
Fokou
Sapp (may surpass in camp)

CB:
Samuel
Hobbs
Jackson (split)
Hanson
Lindley (may surpass Hanson & Hobbs)

SS:
Mikell
Jackson (split)

FS:
Allen
Harris

Waterboy:
Rocca

by corn on the kolb on Apr 24, 2010 6:04 PM EDT reply actions  

3.5 safeties

is not enough.

I still have Demps, Abiamiri, Laws & McGlynn on my WJWL. I wouldn’t look past the first three, though they’ll all be fighting for jobs. I’d usually give an incumbent an advantage at a roster spot over a rookie taken in a similar round.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Apr 24, 2010 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you’ll only see Jackson shift down to CB when Allen wins the job fully, and, admittingly, may only see the field on dime situations.

I still believe the CB’s we have are fine. Hobbs will be fine with a good safety over him, and Hanson is obviously a favorite to win nickel. Jackson may even fall below Lindley.

But, I guess Allen starting at CB, Demps backing Jackson up at FS, and a three-way-trade with ManU to get Beckham are all still in the realm of possibilities.

.. does he even still play for ManU? lol

by corn on the kolb on Apr 24, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not enough backups on the O-Line, as glaringly shown on your list here. Poor draft. Mismanaged.

by DaveinWestChester on Apr 24, 2010 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Backup OL

I think they need a capable backup LT. Because LT is such a critical position, finding a good backup LT is very difficult. Why use a high draft pick on LT who will not play. Still would have liked a developmental prospect to takes Dunlap’s roster spot.

I think McGlynn can be at least an average starting C. He has experience at all the line positions between college and pros. He is backup for C/LG. Jean-Gilles is backup for RG. Topou is backup RT. Dunlap is backup LT.

by phxphilly on Apr 24, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's the exact same line as last season

when injuries ravaged the line and we went 11-5. I don’t have a lot of love for Dunlap, and I guess I’m hoping McGlynn or one of the other Cs in camp fills in for Jackson well, but depth is not particularly something I’d lament.

Peters/Justice/Herremans/Andrews/Cole/MJG/McGlynn might not end up being bad, and maybe Jackson returns late in the year.

It could be much worse.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Apr 24, 2010 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not exactly

It would be surprising to see Jackson before Week 6 and my bet is that he likely ends up missing the season.

I guess Cole/McGlynn fight for the job in camp but I wonder how much Andrews will give at RG and this team has almost zero depth because MJG is below average and there really isn’t an answer if Peters/Justice gets hurt.

by MG77 on Apr 24, 2010 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hold out hope that JJackson will be back, but he will not return to form. I think he’ll be off the roster next year, tbh.

by corn on the kolb on Apr 24, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with all the weaknesses you mentioned MG

and I thought I acknowledged Jackson’s issue, but I guess I shouldn’t have said “exact same” then.

Long story short, it’s not a perfect line, but it’ll do.

The line might end up looking a lot better because I think Kolb is going to let it fly quickly, for better or worse.

I didn’t realize McNabb took 35 sacks in 13.5 games last year. Roethlisberger and Rodgers took a league-worst 50 in 16 games, and Campbell took 43 in 15.5 … which is pretty close to the same sack rate as McNabb.

You can blame the line for any sack, but a lot of people around here thought McNabb held the ball too long/didn’t trust his receivers enough.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Apr 24, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Basically, its the biggest benefit to kolb, really. Set, hut, 2 steps, option 1, option 2, dumpoff/throwaway.

Less sacks, less time our fatties are working, more energy for a run game.

I see all sorts of benefits. And our new WR? I think you’ll see him become the new preferred wr on 3rd down.

Our OL is fine, outside of depth at LT.

by corn on the kolb on Apr 24, 2010 11:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

B+ for now, bt that could turn not an A+ if one or two mid-late rounders turn not a stud. But like having all these boddies, depth killed us last year.

"Sugah n' rainbows"

"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."

by JpH89 on Apr 24, 2010 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

turn into a stud. Stupid auto correct

"Sugah n' rainbows"

"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."

by JpH89 on Apr 24, 2010 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

B+ too

I think qe got 2-3 guys who will compete right away. But for the rest i can say much! Hopefully Somerset of rhem turn out to Be good Players! I like the sapp Pick!

by daveG10 on Apr 24, 2010 6:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Mixed bag

C+

- The defense has alot more bodies and has some desperately needed depth in the front 7 which they were lacking for most of the year. If i were Abiamiri, I would show up to every minicamp and make damn sure I have a strong training camp because he is likely 50/50 at best to make this roster next year.

- A potential answer at FS instead of having to rely on mixed holdover options (Demps, Harris) or long shots (moving Jackson to FS).

- No immediate starter at CB and kind of mixed on what Lindley brings long-term.

- Offensive line that needed both help at 2 starting positions and desperately needed better depth. Got none of it although I strongly suspect that Reid will sign 1-2 undrafted FAs C/G to bring into camp to compete for backup positions.

- Eagles did a good job of maximizing the number of picks they had in mid-rounds to maximize & upgrade the depth of this team that was generally lacking last year.

- Couple of real reaches in this draft including Te’o-Neisheim and Clayton.

- Special teams coverage next year should be improved with the upgrade of younger players

- No obvious help at KR position

- Scott was a throwaway pick unless they see him taking over Bell’s role the following year.

- Some interesting picks at LB and going to make for a real interesting training camp although I still don’t see a clear answer at SAM.

by MG77 on Apr 24, 2010 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

- Defense did need more bodies. but I thought we lacked depth at LB more than DE. I think the DE movement was definately McD showing up. Remember, this is the first draft he’s been in full control of the DefCoord role.

- I’m glad to see someone still thinks that Allen is NOT a shoe-in at FS. But, I think MJackson is a natural fit and will excel there. As I stated elsewhere, both safety positions will be a battle this year.

- I’m not as down on hobbs/hanson as most people are. tbh Hanson will suffice, and hobbs may even be solid. (maybe)

- I agree. I wanted to see another tackle get drafted instead of Te’o. There were several on the board, all big boys, and all solid fits to slide inside or out.

- I’m very happy with the trade-downs, overall. I think its the smart way to run the draft.

- The reaches don’t bother me. I’d rather get slightly lower value, and get a guy who appears to fit in our system much better.

- I am stoked for special teams, and…

- I’m not too concerned about help during KR’s, since over-all our role-players will be improved, making any option we put out there even better

- I think Bell is leaving next year if scott pans out. Scott is simply an insurance policy who serves as a better 3rd down option than even Bell, imo

- I completely agree about SAM. Those who are high on Fokou I guess justify the choices. Alex Hall doesn’t fit in well.. I think he’s just a camp body. But, with Stew and Sims, I guess that leaves like 61,678 people competing for SAM.

by corn on the kolb on Apr 24, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

hobbs is serviceable

trust me I’ve watched enough of him in New England and philly to know he won’t be solid, he will be serviceable

My "t" and "y" buttons are messed up so don't bitch at me about misspelling, I'm just saying.

by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Apr 24, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought we had two of these already
Got none of it although I strongly suspect that Reid will sign 1-2 undrafted FAs C/G to bring into camp to compete for backup positions.

http://www.nfl.com/players/dallasreynolds/profile?id=REY137571

http://www.nfl.com/players/a.q.shipley/profile?id=SHI382248

Although it can’t hurt to bring in more, and I’m sure the FA list will be OL heavy … just thought I’d mention.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Apr 24, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

we do, both with 1 year experience

The Kolb Era has begun....
Kolb - a heavy medieval war club with a spiked or flanged metal head, used to crush armor - Wikipedia of course
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ

by sports00fan00 on Apr 24, 2010 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reid

- Is utterly useless when asked about the draft today by the guys on NFL network. Didn’t give a single answer of substance and gave even less detail than other coaches I saw interviewed including Tomlin. I understand it is his style but it is frustrating that he doesn’t even remotely attempt to answer a thoughtful and interesting question.

by MG77 on Apr 24, 2010 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

He wore loud shirts so they’d have something interesting to talk about when he diverted the topic.

by corn on the kolb on Apr 24, 2010 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone know...

if Walter Thurmond and Danario Alexander were drafted?

I don't know what it is about your face,
[holds up fist]
but I just wanna deliver one of these right in your suck hole.

by DickMuffin on Apr 24, 2010 7:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Nevermind...

Found out on NFL.com. Damn Sehawks. Go get Alexander Eagles!!

I don't know what it is about your face,
[holds up fist]
but I just wanna deliver one of these right in your suck hole.

by DickMuffin on Apr 24, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was pissed when the Seahawks took Walter Thurmond III but it didn’t surprise me since Pete Carroll was in the Pac-10

by The Legend on Apr 24, 2010 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

FUCK KURT COLEMAN STUPID BUCKEYE

We should have gotten Zoltan Mesko

GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!

by tanman5 on Apr 24, 2010 7:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Mesko was taken in the 5th rd.

I think.

I don't know what it is about your face,
[holds up fist]
but I just wanna deliver one of these right in your suck hole.

by DickMuffin on Apr 24, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant in general

Not instead of Coleman I guess I should have specified

GO CUSE, BLUE, AND EAGLES!

by tanman5 on Apr 24, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

O

I don't know what it is about your face,
[holds up fist]
but I just wanna deliver one of these right in your suck hole.

by DickMuffin on Apr 24, 2010 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dag, yo

Trading up to take a Wolverine with our top pick and giving another a 5-year extension this offseason wasn’t enough?

My boy is a big FSU guy, so he got all pysched when we added Sims to Bunkley and had no Gators. But I still blamed him for Booker, and now we got Riley Cooper, so … I understand how you think.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Apr 24, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I give it a B

I was a little worried with all of the trades back, but at the end of the day, I like what we did. I just remember how our offensive line got absolutely manhandled in those last two games against Dallas last year, and I can’t give the FO an A without an upgrade at OL.

I can’t wait to see offenses trying to deal with Graham and Trent Cole, though. I agree with Adam Schefter. Graham will be Defensive ROY.

by laxer298 on Apr 24, 2010 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

I say you all did a good job

I love the Graham, DTN and Sapp picks. I think the last 2 are steals. Not really sure why ya traded up for Graham, I don’t think any of the teams that took a DE in front of you, were taking him.

The Giants were enamored with JPP..they weren’t getting him. Who knows what the hell the Tits were doing, but maybe they had Graham pegged, who knows.

Either way, trading up with that many picks you got, is a good idea.

I grade the Eagles like I do the Giants.

B+ I just think every single team deserves a C…no one’s not a bust yet. But both teams get the benefit of the doubt for drafting so well over the past few years.

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 24, 2010 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

i give it a C.

i don’t understand drafting DE 3 times. i liked graham and allen a lot. it made sense. if we were to move to a 3-4, this would make more sense. but the lack of a true SAM linebacker has me truly puzzled. also, we still have no O-line depth. i would of rather had charles brown with our pick in the late 3rd. come to think of it….there were a lot of other players i would of rather had with that pick.

"it's like i tell my ex-wife, i never drive faster than i can see, and besides it's all in the reflexes." -Jack Burton, Big trouble in little China

by snowhill82 on Apr 24, 2010 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll chime in and run away

I think the idea is that Ricky Sapp is a SAM.

Between him and AJ Edds, I think Sapp is a better pass rusher (Edds better against the run) and since they’re the Eagles…its all about the pass rusher.

by FreeBradshaw on Apr 24, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just wish we would learn our lesson from the gocong experiment.

"it's like i tell my ex-wife, i never drive faster than i can see, and besides it's all in the reflexes." -Jack Burton, Big trouble in little China

by snowhill82 on Apr 24, 2010 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

either way Sapp was a steal there though

I saw a few mocks with him in the low first round.

My "t" and "y" buttons are messed up so don't bitch at me about misspelling, I'm just saying.

by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Apr 24, 2010 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have to realize how common it is for college DEs to become NFL LBs.

by JasonB on Apr 25, 2010 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to challenge you on this one

How many college DE’s successfully transition to a 4-3 SAM position?

About 10 minutes ago, I was pondering my own existence. Then I decided that it didn't matter.

by IronHank on Apr 25, 2010 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

After reading all the comments above, I feel much better about this draft. I would have said a D-C before reading the above. Now I would say B.

by DeanH on Apr 24, 2010 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

If you've never seen Graham play

he will drop your jaw. Ferrocious DE.

My "t" and "y" buttons are messed up so don't bitch at me about misspelling, I'm just saying.

by RadioheadbeatlesEagles on Apr 24, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

NO, I have not seen him play. I like his attitude in his interviews. Looking forward to the fall!

by DeanH on Apr 25, 2010 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bish range

Lots of picks, not a lot of exciting picks. Nailed the first 3 (even though I was in the “The commish just misread Earl Thomas as Daniel Graham” crowd, after some time I’m intrigued)… Now it seems we got a lot of depth at DE/LB & CB/S that should create some camp competition.. then they grabbed some offensive skills players to groom on the scout team. I didn’t like that we didn’t get anyone for the OL, I felt some depth was needed.

Also, it could’ve been more exciting with a pick for player trade, but who knows maybe nothing good was there.

by Sparki on Apr 24, 2010 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Not a lot of exciting picks

Precisely why everyone is so down on the draft.

Our defense sucked ASS last year and we got a LOT of players in a DEEP draft.. Awesome

E-A-G-L-E-S EAGLES!!!

by Joe_D on Apr 24, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed we filled needs on D through draft and trades for the 2 LBS.

I think the birds saw this as a weak o-line draft/players in last 3 rounds on the line were as good/bad as players they could sign as rookie FAs.

Does anyone see them brining in Alan Faneca, as an insurance policy? Not sure about him at his age, just throwing it out there!

by fantasybc88 on Apr 24, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reid and Co.

They’ve know what they’ve been doing for 10+ years. While there hasn’t been a Super Bowl win they have always been competitive. The only reason most are freaking out is because we’ve lost great players like McNabb, Westbrook and Dawkins.

It’s better to let a player go a year early then a year late. They have a great record of knowing when to let players go. They’re drafts have been criticized before. Yet they’ve always been competitive. Only the Colts, Pats and Ravens have been as consistent over the past decade.

They’ve always rebuilt on the fly and have been pretty damn successful in doing so. Does anyone really think that they all of a sudden have no idea what they’re doing?

by BMY on Apr 24, 2010 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

i agree

with you except on the point of mcidiot being a great player… ok, he was great when he ran well and threw passably… when he could no longer run worth a damn, the weakness (inconsistencies) in his passing game reduced him to being mediocre at best… and since he had little or no leadership skill… not to mention the fact that he consistently played small in big games, he was after all was said and done a very poor excuse for a QB!!!!!

As for the draft… I believe this might prove to be one of the best eagle drafts ever!!! the team is undergoing a complete change in style… i look for a real power running game… accurate passing (kolb and kafka)… ball control… no more endless quick three and outs… and when teams try playing up in the box againt them jackson and maclin will be wide open…td’s instead of field goals in the red zone (think of weaver, scott, mccoy running or cooper, ingram, celek, avant, and the new te running fades and slants with a qb that can hit them in the hands and not their feet)…

on defense the game will be speed and constant pressure (think of graham, cole, sims, TO 2, sapp, bradley, foku, jordan, chaney, etc)… which will force turnovers and poorly thrown passes and interception opportunities (samuel, lindley, allen, harris, mikell, etc. will have a feast)… goodbye basket (sorry kendra), hanson, laws, abiamiri, patterson, polk, gaither, demps (possibly keep to run back kick offs)… its a new day in eagles land

by Elmo the faithful fan on Apr 26, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

6 I think. They gave their 2011 6th rounder to Detroit for a 7th this year.

by BMY on Apr 24, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure I heard we are up to 9

by BreckBirds20 on Apr 24, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard into the double digits but I honestly have no idea. I was hoping someone else knew.

Can't think of something catchy to say here...I suck.

by EREX21 on Apr 24, 2010 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Been looking and I can’t find that info anywhere.

by BMY on Apr 24, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

8

We have the McNabb conditional and a 5th from… whoever but we dealt a 6th away to get Chaney.

Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.

by alcatraz0109 on Apr 24, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

5th was from the Chargers, 6th went to the Lions

by BreckBirds20 on Apr 24, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reid=goddamn idiot.

I was ready to give this draft a B+/A- after Day 1…except for the constant trading down of pick 55…59…71. Then he fucks it up with his idiotic day 2.

The grade’s a C.

...But if he pulls the rug on his quarterback, Reid must do it knowing that he let McNabb down more than McNabb ever let him down.

Phil Sheridan--Philadelphia Inquirer

by EvilBanner on Apr 24, 2010 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

What's so idiotic about it?

Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.

by alcatraz0109 on Apr 24, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

the draft

no none knows what the draft brings, but if we drafted as well as I think, we got a kick ass team. We’ll talk about it next year

D.C. YATES

by dcyytexas on Apr 24, 2010 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

My analysis

I loved Graham as a prospect all throughout the offseason leading up to the draft, and wanted the Eagles to get him, BUT after they released Sheldon Brown and traded for Daryl Tapp, I felt that the need for a cornerback/safety was greater than the need for a defensive end in the first round.

If you truly believe in a pass rusher, you should trade up for him, BUT I have to wonder if it would have been smarter to simply pick Earl Thomas or Kyle Wilson in the first round, and then still get other pass rushers like Jason Worilds or Daniel Te’o-Nesheim in the 2nd/3rd/4th rounds.

I hope Graham pans out, but he will forever be compared to the other players we could have had like Earl Thomas and Kyle Wilson, and even other DEs that we passed on in favor of him at pick #13 like Derrick Morgan and Jason Pierre-Paul.

by MyronBales on Apr 24, 2010 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't forever compare

LeSean McCoy to Donald Brown or Knowshon Moreno. Or look at ‘08, there’s nobody between 19 (our original pick) and 49 that I’d rather have over DeSean Jackson, except for Chris Johnson at 22.

Okay, I am still mad about Brandon Meriwether (and Paul Pierce). And FredEx/Reggie Wayne is a good example to support your argument.

But no guarantee the guy you’d rather have had becomes any better than the one you got.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Apr 26, 2010 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

jamar chaney

3rd best ILB in the draft behind Spikes and McCalin

trevard was considered best corner coming into this season in the SEC

RILEY COOPER tebows best man

Rickey Sapp man the sky is the limit he is like a lavarre arrington type i know on MAdden next year il be blitz happy lol

by FLAeagle on Apr 24, 2010 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m calling it right now. Chaney will be our starting SAM by the middle of the season.

Jim Johnson(RIP). Brian Westbrook(36). Donovan Mcnabb(5). Brian Dawkins(20). Sheldon Brown(24). Jeremiah Trotter(54).

Thanks for the memories...

by Route36 on Apr 25, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and Spikes blows. Chaney is a much better player.

Jim Johnson(RIP). Brian Westbrook(36). Donovan Mcnabb(5). Brian Dawkins(20). Sheldon Brown(24). Jeremiah Trotter(54).

Thanks for the memories...

by Route36 on Apr 25, 2010 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chaney was literally the fastest LB in the draft. I like that.

by JasonB on Apr 25, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

A solid B, maybe a B+

But I can’t give any new reasons that haven’t already been give, we got pretty good value on some of our picks, and managed to stockpile quite a few late rounders.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Apr 25, 2010 12:55 AM EDT reply actions  

com'on... give'm an a+

in case no one noticed the eagles will be an entirely different style team moving forward… power running… accurate passing… controll the clock… grind down the other teams on offense… no more bombs away and hope for the best… no more dirtballs and endless series of quick three and outs… on defense the game will be speed and more speed… keep constant pressure on the passer which leads to poorly thrown passes and opportunities for turnovers… who cares if the safety is a tackling machine??? the game is turnovers and then grind and maul the other team’s d… for 35 minutes or more a game… this is gonna be fun!!!!

by Elmo the faithful fan on Apr 26, 2010 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I definitely think they remade themselves in a new image

and prepared for having to change their style offensively, if need be. Clearly that was the mission defensively, to get McDermott guys and to get younger/faster/deeper.

Still waiting for the Eagles to Bring It Home For Jerome

by D3Keith on Apr 26, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

For once...

I agree with you!

Berries are nice, but Graham crackers taste pretty good too.

by alcatraz0109 on Apr 26, 2010 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kafka is clutch

Sapp Clay and Riley are nice late picks too

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Apr 28, 2010 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

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