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With the 125 overall pick the Eagles select Missouri St. TE/FB Clay Harbor

With the 27th pick in the 4th round of the 2010 NFL draft the Philadelphia Eagles select Missouri St. TE Clayton Harbour.

This is the pick the Eagles received from the Cowboys.

Harbor projects as a blocking TE or FB at the NFL level. CBS sports ranks him as the top FB in the draft.

Clay Harbor, Missouri State, 6-3, 252, 3-4: An athletic beast who can line up as a fullback, tight end or H-back and create matchup problems for a defense. As a receiver, he set the school record with 150 career catches, and his 1,906 yards rank third in school history. Harbor's 59 catches for 729 yards and four touchdowns in his senior year reflected his ability to get open in zones and stretch the field. His blocking has improved each year, so he can be a significant block-or-catch weapon as an H-back. His explosion was demonstrated at the combine when he soared 40 inches in the vertical jump. And his strength was quantified when he bench-pressed 225 pounds 30 times.

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Seems like an interesting prospect

Harbor is the sort of hybrid moving tight end/fullback combo player that many NFL offenses like to use as a positional blocker on the edge and a matchup problem for safeties and linebackers.

Though Harbor began his career in Maryville (where his older brother Cory also played) as a wide receiver, his shift to tight end as a redshirt sophomore in 2007 put him on scouts' radars. He wound up a three-time all-Gateway/Missouri Valley Football Conference (the conference changed names in 2008) player for the Bears, and earned many All-American honors because of his receiving skills. He leaves as the school's all-time leader with 150 receptions and ranked third in receiving yards (1,906 yards).

As a senior, Harbor's 59 catches for 729 yards and four touchdowns reflected his ability to get open in zones and stretch the field. His blocking also greatly improved during his career, allowing scouts to imagine him playing early downs as a motion tight end. It's likely a team will pick him up between the late second to early fourth rounds because of the versatility he's shown.

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If we wanted a player like this, we should’ve gone with Dorin Dickerson.

by Shady is an Eagle! on Apr 24, 2010 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Other players that would've been better:

Selvish Capers, OT, West Virginia
Ed Wang, OT, Va Tech
James Starks, RB, Buffalo

by Shady is an Eagle! on Apr 24, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

So a bunch of guys falling down the board that no one wants but you hear of before?

Selvish Capers? Go watch Brandon Graham’s tape from the Senior Bowl and tell me whether you still think Selvish Capers is an NFL OT. Graham embarrassed him.

by JasonB on Apr 24, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was my first thought. Dorin Dickerson is a nightmare to match up against and he played much better competition than this kid.

by mattjg on Apr 24, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Different kind of player. Harbor is a TE/FB.

Blocking TE… haven’t we wanted that for a while?

by JasonB on Apr 24, 2010 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not for a 4th round pick. Highly disappointed with this draft. Terrible reaches, un-Eagles like. I thought we would own the 4th. Roseman needs to be fired. As soon as he becomes GM, the Eagles started drafting like the Raiders.

Jim Johnson(RIP). Brian Westbrook(36). Donovan Mcnabb(5). Brian Dawkins(20). Sheldon Brown(24). Jeremiah Trotter(54).

Thanks for the memories...

by Route36 on Apr 24, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Reaches based on whose opinion?

by ZorkNemesis on Apr 24, 2010 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Do some research then get back to me. In Andy’s 11 years, I don’t remember him drafting players earlier than they are projected. Keenan Clayton? Seriously?

Jim Johnson(RIP). Brian Westbrook(36). Donovan Mcnabb(5). Brian Dawkins(20). Sheldon Brown(24). Jeremiah Trotter(54).

Thanks for the memories...

by Route36 on Apr 24, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

brian smith. jack iguana. chris gocong just to name a few

by bula412 on Apr 24, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, they weren’t reaches when drafted.

Jim Johnson(RIP). Brian Westbrook(36). Donovan Mcnabb(5). Brian Dawkins(20). Sheldon Brown(24). Jeremiah Trotter(54).

Thanks for the memories...

by Route36 on Apr 24, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

you can probably go back and find a mock draft that says they were reaches. they just aren’t reaches on the mock you were reading

by bula412 on Apr 24, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

My mom.

Jim Johnson(RIP). Brian Westbrook(36). Donovan Mcnabb(5). Brian Dawkins(20). Sheldon Brown(24). Jeremiah Trotter(54).

Thanks for the memories...

by Route36 on Apr 24, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who cares about projections after the first couple rounds?

No NFL teams does. Look at any of these picks. They’re guys that were “projected” all over the map. It’s meaningless at this point.

by JasonB on Apr 24, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

They are projected there for a reason.

Jim Johnson(RIP). Brian Westbrook(36). Donovan Mcnabb(5). Brian Dawkins(20). Sheldon Brown(24). Jeremiah Trotter(54).

Thanks for the memories...

by Route36 on Apr 24, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, so fans have something to look.

NFL teams rate guys differently for a reason.

LEt’s look at facts. Bruce Campbell was “projected” as a second round pick. His actual value as NFL teams saw it was a late 4th pick.

by JasonB on Apr 24, 2010 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, and that was a great pick at that round. High Value.

Clayton and Harbour = Overvalued.

I thought that was the point of picking up all these 4ths. To pick up the best players from the 2nd and 3rd that dropped there. Instead, they went for players that were ranked lower than they were taken. Whatever, we will see what happens. They just got another DE, Ricky Sapp. This was a great value pick because he has second round talent and they took him in the 5th.

Although, another freakin’ DE. Unbelievable. Maybe he can play strong side but it would be Gocong 2.0.

Jim Johnson(RIP). Brian Westbrook(36). Donovan Mcnabb(5). Brian Dawkins(20). Sheldon Brown(24). Jeremiah Trotter(54).

Thanks for the memories...

by Route36 on Apr 24, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Overvalued” according to whom?

“The best players” according to whom?

Not NFL teams, clearly. Or anyone whose opinion matters.

by ZorkNemesis on Apr 24, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uh, NFL teams hit and miss just as much as scouting reports hit and miss. You can’t think, just because an NFL team picked a player here or there, that it was the best decision. Same goes for a scouting report. I’m just giving my opinion.

Jim Johnson(RIP). Brian Westbrook(36). Donovan Mcnabb(5). Brian Dawkins(20). Sheldon Brown(24). Jeremiah Trotter(54).

Thanks for the memories...

by Route36 on Apr 24, 2010 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is no way of really knowing until a couple years down the road.

Jim Johnson(RIP). Brian Westbrook(36). Donovan Mcnabb(5). Brian Dawkins(20). Sheldon Brown(24). Jeremiah Trotter(54).

Thanks for the memories...

by Route36 on Apr 24, 2010 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eagles main needs:

pass rush

Safety

Goal line

Depth;

I think they coverd all the bases so far

"Sugah n' rainbows"

"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."

by JpH89 on Apr 24, 2010 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

They’ve got the pass rusher. They’ve got a safety. Both big needs both filled.

They’ve drafted other players at need positions, but into the 4th round no one can know whether these guys will fill those holes. Could go either way. They’ve got a corner, a LB, a TE/FB hybrid… From the 4th round on you can’t say that needs have been “filled” with anyone.

These guys are all crapshoots, including all the players some people here want. They’ve just heard of those crapshoots.

by JasonB on Apr 24, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jason, I think you’re being too optimistic here. The 4th had some really high value players and instead the Eagles overvalued players.

Jim Johnson(RIP). Brian Westbrook(36). Donovan Mcnabb(5). Brian Dawkins(20). Sheldon Brown(24). Jeremiah Trotter(54).

Thanks for the memories...

by Route36 on Apr 24, 2010 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

My mom.

Jim Johnson(RIP). Brian Westbrook(36). Donovan Mcnabb(5). Brian Dawkins(20). Sheldon Brown(24). Jeremiah Trotter(54).

Thanks for the memories...

by Route36 on Apr 24, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

HIgh value to who? An actual NFL team or a draft site?

That’s what I’m trying to say. That stuff doesn’t matter. We’re learning who really had value and who didn’t right now.

It’s not an optimistic or pessimistic thing.

by JasonB on Apr 24, 2010 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said, I feel good saying that they filled 2 needs. As for the rest, you’re guess is as good as mine.

by JasonB on Apr 24, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every body going by mock drafts that gm’s haven’t made

by jjrome on Apr 24, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you.

Only voice of reason on this site right now.

This is the 4th-7th rounds. You are not looking for impact starters at this point. You are looking for developmental players and ST guys. Just because some people fell through the cracks doesn’t mean you take them. They fell through the cracks because they deserved to. And they will be taken as projects.

by ZorkNemesis on Apr 24, 2010 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

ohh I know, I like this draft so far

"Sugah n' rainbows"

"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."

by JpH89 on Apr 24, 2010 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with jason yall crazy this draft hasn’t been bad

by jjrome on Apr 24, 2010 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay Pick

I’ve seen him in action and he’s a good TE. Runs routes okay. But I don’t think this guy will be used much unless Ingram’s knee turns out to be worst. I’d rather have an o-lineman at this pick.

Wishlist:
[Desean Jackson] -for- [1,000 Receiving Yards] -currently- [1167] * [PRO BOWL]
[Asante Samuel] -for- [9 Interceptions] -currently- [9] * [PRO BOWL]
[Trent Cole] -for- [12.5 Sacks] -currently- [12.5] * [PRO BOWL]
[Michael Vick] -for- [4 Rushing Touchdowns] -currently- [2]

by D-JAX! on Apr 24, 2010 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

There are so many other great players we could of had.

by 410eaglesfan on Apr 24, 2010 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

seems to be the trend with the last 4 picks....

KOLB is a natural born leader - something the Eagles haven't had on offense in a long long time. Prediction, we win a SB in the next 3 years.

by BWestFactor on Apr 24, 2010 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

if those players are so great, how come none of the other teams are taking them?

by bula412 on Apr 24, 2010 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Fallacy. You could use that same logic to say “If Suh is so great, why didn’t St. Louis take him?”

by ZorkNemesis on Apr 24, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

because they thought someone else was better. fact is that st. louis almost had to take bradford because they’ve been passing on franchise qb’s for a few seasons. what i’m talking about is everyone saying “this guys was supposed to go in the second round and he’s still on the board. take him. he’s a stud” if he were so good, one of the nfl teams probably would have picked up on it before some guy in a chat room

by bula412 on Apr 24, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

What?

Isn’t that the case for any player right now?

lol

by JasonB on Apr 24, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm just tired

of hearing year after year that the Eagles FO is picking folks in the 3rd or 4th round that the other evaluators have two rounds later.

Of course, I’m even more tired of the FO picking players like needs are met and they can just afford to go after who they got interested in during the combines. That they’ve been doing for years.

by sdf on Apr 24, 2010 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

You're too focused on just Eagles

I imagine if you researched every single pick made in this draft you’ll find that 90% of the guys taken outside of the top couple rounds are a total crapshoot as far as where some draft site “projected” them to go.

It’s a free for all in the later rounds.

I always think it’s funny what people praise a team for getting “value” when they pick a higher rated player in the 4th or 5th. Doesn’t anyone wonder why no one wanted a player that would thought to be so good? Does anyone actually still think Bruce Campbell was one of the top players in the draft after watching him slide and 20 other OTs go before him?

In mock drafts people liked him. In reality, real NFL GMs didn’t,

by JasonB on Apr 24, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

What does this say about their faith in Ingram to come back healthy?

The road to victory!

by jayt on Apr 24, 2010 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Ingram is toast.

TE was absolutely a need, no matter what people on here will say. With a young QB you need to be able to run 2TE sets and give him options and protection.

BTW, I think it’s funny that people here think they know fucking anything about 4th-7th round picks other than what the mock “gurus” say. If the mock “gurus” actually knew anything, they would be hired by NFL teams to be personnel directors. Guess where they are. Not in the NFL. They’re behind a desk. They know about as much as you do. “Mock drafts had him as a later pick” is a poor argument.

by ZorkNemesis on Apr 24, 2010 11:43 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

He’s extremely versatile, which Reid loves. But ultimately they want to run 2TE sets. And Alex Smith is a FA now.

by ZorkNemesis on Apr 24, 2010 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

but we have weaver...

would he be a te when needed and a fb for when weaver runs?

by awd777 on Apr 24, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think so

He would come in with a double tight end set and block. His ability to catch and block makes him a valuable pick. Maybe he helps with goal-line ability???

by nitsujjh on Apr 25, 2010 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

The only picks i liked were Graham and Allen. We are drafting players projected to be picked rounds after we pick them.

by 410eaglesfan on Apr 24, 2010 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

ESPN seems to like this guy

"Sugah n' rainbows"

"We will steal the show, jolly Rogers go, we are wolves of the sea."

by JpH89 on Apr 24, 2010 11:44 AM EDT reply actions  

I didn’t know this guy was a blocker my gay ass book says he isn’t much of one I need to stop going to it.

by The Legend on Apr 24, 2010 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Goddamnit

I wanted us to take Akwasi Owusu-Ansah and now the friggin Cowboys have him

by DLin21 on Apr 24, 2010 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

clayton and lindley

I hate those picks other wise. I wanted Owusu-Ansah and norwood.

by Metang3 on Apr 24, 2010 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Actually a lot people like this guy down here. McShay just said he was a steal.

by JasonB on Apr 24, 2010 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

He seems to be the ideal back-up FB / 3rd TE for the Eagles

He can be motioned around and work in Big sets for us near the goalline, while still being a receiving threat. We all know the Eagles like to line-up like they are going to run and 50% of the time its a play action pass…. plus should be a very good special teams contributer (I want guys like this blocking for DJax on punt returns)

by Smallbugger on Apr 24, 2010 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

I can see this guy playing a lot of ST.

by joetimek on Apr 24, 2010 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

We’ve been needing a solid blocking TE — though from the info Jason posted he has upside in other areas of his game as well. Good pick, imo.

by Greg M on Apr 24, 2010 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

i cannot see anyway that this isn’t an offensive lineman

by bula412 on Apr 24, 2010 12:04 PM EDT reply actions  

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