Brandon Marshall Or Desean Jackson...who would you take ?
With Desean Jackson's contract coming up I assume he will ask for Brandon Marshall type money. But is he really worth it ? I guess I am going to be unpopular here and say no. Off the field issues aside, I dont see Desean Jackson as being in the same talent pool as a Brandon Marchall or a Larry Fitzgerald.
I mean as we all have seen, He couldn't do a damn thing in the last two Dallas games and quickly seemed to get frustrated when he was struggling in other games . Ive watched quite a few Bronco games and I have NEVER seen Brandon Marshall get shut down despite all the coverage shifting his way. Hes like a young Terrell Ownens. And if you guys recall, when TO was here, even with pussy boy pinkston on the other side TO was never shut down. And Marshall is a beast in the red zone. Jackson is invisible in the red zone.
I would say Jackson is an exciting player but I dont see him being much better than he is already. And when he loses even a quarter of a step he will be MUCH less effective. I think the Eagles should have tried to make a move to get Marshall, A 2nd round pick(and maybe one next year) doesn't seem insane for a guy who will be the best wideout in the league for the next 5-7 years.
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Marshall is a better pure receiver, but I’ll take DeSean Jackson in a heartbeat over him. And although I agree that DeSean doesn’t deserve “Brandon Marshall money,” I don’t think Brandon Marshall deserves “Brandon Marshall money” either.
I'm with you on this one
which isn’t unusual.
I’d take Jackson but I’m somewhat scared to see him in negotiations with our FO. Contracts lately have been ridiculously through the roof and I’m sure thats what he will be expecting.
In life, as in a football game, the principle to follow is: Hit the line hard.
-Theodore Roosevelt
We've given out big contracts before
Our FO can handle it. Problem will come when Maclin breaks out and expects the same type of contract, dunno if we can handle 2 monster contracts at one position.
I understand that
Peters and Asante come to mind but we’ll see what our office is willing to give. I don’t think its going to be as quick and simple as you make it seem.
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-Theodore Roosevelt
Nice way to put it, Bye, Dawk ;(
DeSean Jackson won’t get anywhere near “Brandon Marshall money”, but Brandon Marshall doesn’t really deserve the money he got. I think DeSean Jackson will get a contract that not only he can agree with, but the FO can dish out as well (after long, tiring negotiations, of course).
As for Maclin, we’ll see just have to wait and see exactly what kind of WR he turns out to be.
by ChaoticEagle on Apr 15, 2010 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
you could make a argument for either
i guess it would depend on a lot of things, wat kind of offense the team has and QB, obviously desean isnt a guy whos gonna catch 15 balls a game but he makes the ones he does catch count.
by goldenbird09 on Apr 16, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
for our offense
for us, i like desean. however i think marshall is bettter overall. i think the west coast offense is better with smaller quicker receivers. we don’t like dive receivers here in philly, and desean is only gonna get better. however having said that, i think most teams, miami for instance, are better with marshall
Wouldn't that be nice
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Ive watched quite a few Bronco games and I have NEVER seen Brandon Marshall get shut down despite all the coverage shifting his way
Week 1 vs Bengals: 4 catches, 27 yards
Week 2 vs Browns: 3 catches, 34 yards
Week 6 vs Chargers: 5 catches, 49 yards
Week 8 vs Ravens: 4 catches, 24 yards
Week 11 vs Chargers: 3 catches, 26 yards
Week 16 vs Eagles: 8 catches, 38 yards
Just sayin…
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Thanks for the memories...
8 catches for 38 yards is ridiculous.
I remember all those god dam wide receiver screens, sooooo friggin annoying.
A lot of his plays are due to the blocking but I gotta say, he is the BEST WR over 6’2, I’ve seen running after the catch(not at that Eagles game though). The way he breaks tackles and makes people miss after the catch is amazing. However, I just don’t see him as a top 5 receiver. I would take Desean Jackson over him because of his big play threat ability.
Jim Johnson(RIP). Brian Westbrook(36). Donovan Mcnabb(5). Brian Dawkins(20). Sheldon Brown(24). Jeremiah Trotter(54).
Thanks for the memories...
Jackson
Week 1 vs. Panthers: 2 catches, 9 yards
Week 5 vs. Bucs: 1 catch, 1 yard
Week 9 vs. Cowboys: 2 catches, 29 yards
Week 12 vs. Redskins: 2 catches, 41 yards
Week 16 vs. Cowboys: 4 catches, 33 yards
Week 17 vs. Cowboys: 3 catches, 47 yards
Basically, if there was no big play, he didn’t do as much as I’d like. Marshall is in a league above Desean, and is built to have a longer career then Jackson. And I don’t mean to knock Desean, he’s in the second tier of WR’s in the league, but Marshall is up in tier 1.
I knew somebody would bring that up. I was waiting for it. The author of the post said he never saw Marshall get shut down and I was just giving him some evidence.
Tier 1: A. Johnson, Larry Fitz, Randy Moss, Reggie Wayne, Calvin Johnson(One great year, but talent and potential is elite).
Tier 2: (Insert 5 other receivers that are on par with Marshall) Examples: Colston, D.Jackson, Austin, Rice, White, Smith(CAR), V.Jackson, Holmes, Jennings and Boldin. Pick your poison. They are all on the same level to me.
Tier 3: Steve Smith(NY), Welker, Driver, Ocho Cinco, Housh, S. Moss, and Ward.
Jim Johnson(RIP). Brian Westbrook(36). Donovan Mcnabb(5). Brian Dawkins(20). Sheldon Brown(24). Jeremiah Trotter(54).
Thanks for the memories...
Not to me
- Tier 1 -
Andre Johnson
Larry Fitzgerald
Reggie Wayne
Brendon Marshall
Randy Moss (declining tho)
Calvin Johnson
- Tier 2 -
Anquan Boldin
Vincent Jackson
Greg Jennings
Marquis Colston
Roddy White
Miles Austin
Sidney Rice
DeSean Jackson
santonio Holmes is not in the A level i have him right on the outside
in the really high B’s i’d give him an 89 B+ grade, he’s not “A” though
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by sonnycrockett on Apr 15, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
holmes
holmes is barley top 20
by jack is better than asante on Apr 15, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
agree although wayne is un the downside with moss, to me its
1. Andre Jouhnson
2. Larry Fitzgerald
3. Brandon Marshall
and everyone else u can debate.
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by sonnycrockett on Apr 15, 2010 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
* Johnson
"Bad cops Rico, theres nothing lower"
by sonnycrockett on Apr 15, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Lee Evans should be on the list, he’s just on an awful team.
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actually
i cant argue that .. i like lee evans a lot but hes not on the list lol neither is braylon edwards even tho he has top 10 talent
by jack is better than asante on Apr 15, 2010 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
braylon edwards?
your joking right. this dude has butter hands
by Desean Da Man on Apr 15, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
But if he ever improves his hands he will be top 5, the guy is a beast. I still have hopes for him.
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honestly
i am not high on the dude at all. i just think he is not that special.
by Desean Da Man on Apr 15, 2010 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
He's really not.. He's not that fast, he's tall but then again he really isnt
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
17 tds
yea ok wild eagle .. shut up .. u think jackson is better than marshall .. u dont know shit about juding wrs .. i didnt say edwards was top 10 .. i said he had top 10 talent .. and he does. . marshall is however top 5 .. jackson is however not
by jack is better than asante on Apr 15, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh, I thought his problem was that he was trying to catch
with some nubs…
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
personally
i have austin tier 1. this dude is so good. nice routes, quick speed, good strength. this dude will be getting 1500 yds next season.
by Desean Da Man on Apr 15, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
MIles Austin
is awesome. He’s big, he’s fast, he can make you flat out miss or just break the tackle. I argued him vs. Desean with Cowboy fans alot this year, and the fact is, they’re just different players. A team works best if they have one of each type of guy
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
Marshall or Avant
In all honesty if we hadn’t drafted Avant over him we wouldn’t be talking about all of this. No disrespect to Avant but Marshall is alot more talented then him.
In the 2006 NFL Draft
We selected Avant a few slots ahead of him.
by bringdawkback on Apr 15, 2010 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
If I could redo the 2006 NFL draft
Our Wrs would be
Colston-Marshall-Austin
I would still draft Jackson in 2008, im not sure about Maclin though
if "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry christmas...
we can’t change the past. i think we have a pretty solid 1-2-3 wr punch.
not me. I’m allergic to nuts :(
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by Talon Talent on Apr 15, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not :-)
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lol
i cant put my picture up there cuz eaglesgrl will be all over me :-p
by jack is better than asante on Apr 16, 2010 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah. And if we didn’t pass on Tom Brady, would Kolb even be in the QB picture? And if we didn’t pass on Chris Johnson…
I am the people's troll :3™
hahah
Marshall >>>>> Jackson
by jack is better than asante on Apr 15, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Avant is a great WR
and a great leader. Marshall has more talent of course. But Avant has the heart and dedication to be great. I would rather have Jackson and Avant. Marshall wouldnt be a good fit here.
Avant sets a great example for the younger players on the team, one of the hardest working players we have. Marshall put in half as much effort as Avant does, he’d be headed to Canton.
avant
avant is soo over rated
by jack is better than asante on Apr 15, 2010 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Just like Brandon Marshall :p
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Thanks for the memories...
yea ok
100 catches .. hes a monster ..
by jack is better than asante on Apr 15, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea...
So Welker and Steve Smith(NY) are bigger “monsters” than him since they had more catches. I think I’m gonna have to make a fanpost for this shit…
Jim Johnson(RIP). Brian Westbrook(36). Donovan Mcnabb(5). Brian Dawkins(20). Sheldon Brown(24). Jeremiah Trotter(54).
Thanks for the memories...
I think Welker (pre-ACL) could have a case made for him for best WR simply because no one else does what he does. He catches more than anyone in the league and just gains yards.
It’s been successful for 3 years and nobody else in the league does it. Why? Because no one is as good as him. I thought for a while Eddie Royal might be that guy but who knows what he’ll do this year.
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I would rather take a receiver that gains more yards and has a higher YPC with less catches than a receiver that gets a lot of catches but for much lesser yards. I value receivers that run routes well and get high yardage catches, higher than a guy getting a lot of screen/short passes that depend a lot more on YAC and blocking.
The former(in most cases) will have more catches for 1st downs, higher percentage of catches accounting for first downs, more third down conversions, more touchdown receptions and more bigger plays(20+ yard catches). Wes Welker however, was good in all these categories last year. Brandon Marshall was not.
I could make a post showing evidence that Marshall is not a top five receiver based on numbers a lot of the guys here(who think he is) don’t know of. I just don’t feel like spending a lot of time on a non-Eagles topic.
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Thanks for the memories...
bullshit
do it .. you cant .. marshall is clearly top 5
by jack is better than asante on Apr 16, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not wasting my time trying to get through your thick head. How about you try and convince me with rational information? You can start by telling me why Marshall is better than Welker and Steve Smith(NY) when they had more catches(since that’s all you’re going by).
Jim Johnson(RIP). Brian Westbrook(36). Donovan Mcnabb(5). Brian Dawkins(20). Sheldon Brown(24). Jeremiah Trotter(54).
Thanks for the memories...
Top 10 Receivers in NFL
1. Larry Fitzgerald
2. Andre Johnson
3. Calvin Johnson
4. Reggie Wayne
5. Randy Moss
So you would take Marshall over these 5 if you had one game to win it all? You would be crazy if you did
eff you we winning anyway
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yea
i might over 4 and 5 .. wayne is a product of manning .. hes good .. but hes not marshall .. hes still top 5 .. and moss is falling off .. and i would go calvin 1 .. andre 2 .. marshall 3 ..wayne 4 .. fitz 5
by jack is better than asante on Apr 17, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
you ranked Fitzgerald at 5?
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by Talon Talent on Apr 17, 2010 3:40 AM EDT up reply actions
yep
hes not as talented as the top 3 in my book ..and wayne has peyton manning and hes consistant
by jack is better than asante on Apr 17, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, others have made the point that when he slows down he’s gonna struggle. I agree that this is true, but take a look at players like Steve Smith (CAR)… Small receivers can have long careers and do just fine. Also, the Eagles will let him go before he slows down too much, right now I’d rather have Jackson. Marshall is baby TO though, in multiple ways… Great physical receiver but who knows if he can keep his off-the field issues off-the field in Miami, the city of beaches, clubs, and women.
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No hesitation I'd take Jackson..
Much better person.
Much more explosive.
Multi-demintional..
and We have Maclin as the “big WR”
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
at 6'0" 198
I’m glad you have ‘big’ in quotes…though I agree with your point. I think we see Maclin become the go-to guy while Jackson remains a big-play specialist
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
Funny thing, is I like Maclin more than Jackson.
That said, Jackson is VERY good. Imagine what Maclin could be?
In Kolb we trust
I love both of them equally...
But Maclin’s alot more consistant and well that clutch catch last year show’s he can be a steak in the heart of other teams
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
yes it was.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
shut up
wild eagle u are an idiot to take jackson over marshall .. im sure u would take him over andre johnson and calvin too ..
by jack is better than asante on Apr 15, 2010 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
You fuck face, I was saying how maclins game winning catch(set up the game
winning FG) was an amazing catch..
I’d take Desean over Marshall because he’s more multidimentional, and does just as much w/ less touches.
I’d take Desean over Calvin because Calvins had 1 good year, and deseans had 2 in a row, and go back to the multidemintional thing.
I’d take Andre over Djax… Andre’s a monster
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
Uh I'm with you DeSean
Can’t say the same about Calvin. You’d be crazy to take DeSean over CJ.
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by chrisbeomsuh on Apr 15, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually, I'd probably take Marshall over DeSean too at this point
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by chrisbeomsuh on Apr 15, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
what
calvin over desean!!! wow .. i cant talk to u anymore wild eagle .. thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard
by jack is better than asante on Apr 15, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm actually surprised
I would have guessed you to like CJ
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
who
wild eagle isnt that smart .. calvin is the most talented wr in nfl
by jack is better than asante on Apr 16, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
surprising to see Jibta takes DJax over Calvin.
I wonder how good Calvin would be on another team?
In Kolb we trust
that's what I thought you'd say
calvin over desean!!! wow ….thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard
sorta sounds like you’d prefer desean over calvin
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no
that was in reply to wild eagle .. he said that.. no fuckin way .. calvin>>>jackson .. not even close .. any idiot who wouldnt swap them doesnt know football
by jack is better than asante on Apr 16, 2010 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually
Calvin has had two good years if you compare the stats on a grade of Jackson’s. Jackson’s rookie year he had 62/912/2, Johnson last year had 67/984/5. Jackson’s Pro Bowl year he had 62/1156/9 while Johnson’s (should have been Pro Bowl year) year had 78/1,331/12. So in essence, Jackson’s best season isn’t better than Johnson’s.
Without a doubt, CJ is definitely the more polished and freakish athlete at WR, but Jackson has more dimensions. Pure-receiver wise, Johnson takes that crown hands down, but multi-dimensions then yeah Jackson wins.
And
The difference between McNabb and Culpepper/Orlovsky/Stafford is HUGE
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by chrisbeomsuh on Apr 16, 2010 4:04 AM EDT up reply actions
I was trying to get in on that forum,
but there were tooo many posts, that post kept crashing on my cheap work pc.
In Kolb we trust
Steak. lol.
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Let the beasting begin.
by TransplantedFan on Apr 15, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
eh, I honestly didnt know which one to use so I just put w/e one was muscle memory.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
Oh, to answer the question, I'll go Marshall over Jackson.
I bleed green, but I aint stupid.
In Kolb we trust
Fair enough
Bringing back off-field issues though, I think we can all agree we’d take DeSean over BMarsh? As in, if the Phins offered us a swap right now?
Common bro. I know DJax is good and all. But he isn't a big red zone guy.
He needs space to work. Marshal is a consistant go to guy. His body size is just something that is imposing to DBs.
I think DJax is a Homerun guy, but Marshall hits a ton of doubles and singles. I like that consistancy from Marshall. Even though there is something to be said for Jacksons speed, he causes nightmares as well. My only thing with Jackson is his size, if we are 3rd and goal on the 5, Marshal is your guy. He is just more dependable.
DJax is Maddenish player, I love him as well.
In Kolb we trust
lol finally someone with sense, ur second line says it all
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by sonnycrockett on Apr 15, 2010 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions
no
marshall is better than desean .. no question
by jack is better than asante on Apr 15, 2010 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Jackson could be much more effective with a guy like Kolb under center
I do agree as soon as he loses speed he will be much less effective. Marshall definitely is “streaky” when it comes to production.
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I agree
Our WRs should have had hall of fame seasons last year had they not been receiving passes from the worst QB of all time.
No but they'll have much more potential when they get hit in stride
just watch rajav
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agreed.
I though DJax was gonna blow up last year. His production actually dropped when McNabb came back. Remember me saying last year during the season I fealt there was a rift between McNabb and the WRs. I knew they had to feel the drop in production. True enough they did.
You gotta feed the monster bro. Kevin does. McNabb loves to spread the ball and also holds back a ton of plays because he didn’t see it WIDE open.
I this league, nothing is WIDE open.
Kevin Kolb is doing the right thing by studying Drew Breese, because that is the player he is most like. Both have below average arms, but are above average leaders and above average accuracy.
In Kolb we trust
really? the worst QB of all time?
i feel so bad for each and every Eagles player ever… u guys give zero credit when credit is due. mcnabb was a force for your team for a long time. your going to be kicking yourselves when kolb sets the franchise back 5-10 years because hes a total bust
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by Plaxico Burress on Apr 15, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude
I can see how you could have taken rajav’s comment out of context, but please try to remember that is a possibility when you’re reading a blog you’re not completely familiar with.
I’ll fill you in. Joe_D has been completely irrational in his McNabb hate for quite some time now. Many posters on here have tired of this, and now mock him with statements like “worst QB of all time”. Just picture rajav saying that with eyes rolling and disdain in his voice and I think you’ll get what was really meant.
Also, I’m not sure what basis you have for thinking Kolb will be a total bust, other than just wishful thinking.
got it
yea it is hard to understand the context when people type obviously.. ive been trolling around BGN for a hwile so i see what you guys argue about and i was always a mcnabb supporter even tho im a giants fan. just thought he got treated very poorly, and didnt deserve it. i thought he was serious with the worst QB of all time line so i had to ask really????
and yes just wishful thinking. i hope hes a bust
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by Plaxico Burress on Apr 15, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I figured your intentions weren't bad
Other than the Kolb thing of course, lol.
I’ve seen your comments on here several times before, so I recognized ya.
How long have you been trolling BGN, did you say? A "hwile"?

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by DeSean10 on Apr 15, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
haha just a typo
but yea ive been coming around for a hwile.. and i like cool hwip.
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by Plaxico Burress on Apr 16, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes
Thinking that Kolb’s strengths will be better suited for DeSean’s skills is totally irrational.
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Nah joe
If you watch clips from the saints and chiefs game, jackson was catching throws while on the run in open running lanes, with his open field speed kolb can hit him with short passes that go long and he might have to get the ball away early with a shaky line. Also, even kolbs deep balls are more accurate, he doesn’t loft them up as much, he still hits the reciever with an easy to catch ball in stride. He just has to throw a little sooner.
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Not saying this is def true
but just saying its not totally irrational to think kolbs strengths won’t benefit jackson, or else why would jackson be so down with the trade. Theres got to be a legit skillset reason jackson likes him better, not just a personality reason.
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what i said was sarcastic as the poster above me said my thoughts on mcnabb
were irrational when i said desean would do better w/ kolb
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I agree. I think Kolb will use him better on short stuff. I can imagine Jackson having 100 catches next year.
Kolb falls in love with WR easily. Jackson will get his catches. Take that to the bank brother.
Remember his targeting Jeremy Bloom like 6 times in a row during preseason games. He did the same with Celek and Shaheer McBride.
Kolb loves to feed the monster. Just ask Donnie Avery.
In Kolb we trust
I'll take Jackson.......
I’ll take Jackson any day. He’s more dangerous and is a double threat when he’s returning punts. Who’s to say he won’t have a long career playing at a high level. As for the end zone, the Eagles have Celek, Ingram and Baskett….all over 6’…to go to. I would even take Avant over Marshall. I prefer sure hands more than anything. Can Marshall take a hit over the middle??? If Ingram plays up to his expectations, they’ll be a lot of 2 TE formations for the opposition to deal with. Denver let Marshall go for some reason. He could be damaged goods who won’t fit in to the Eagles way of doing things. Could be another T.O…..and I love T.O., but he disrupted the Eagles plans with his tantrums. We know what Jackson is capable of doing. He showed it with Donovan at QB and he showed it with Kolb at QB. Marshall is damaged goods…………..
Jackson will end up being our number 2 WR
So i guess i have to pick Marshall over him. Maclin is going to be a monster
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yes but as a player I'd take Djax, He scored running, returning and recieving last year.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
virgoman
avant over marshall .. shut up thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard .. ill listen to desean arguments .. get the fuck out of here with avant
by jack is better than asante on Apr 15, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Jackson
No question. It’s kind of a toss up when you look strictly at talent; once you take off the field concerns into the decision there’s no question that Jackson is the choice.
yes... we will unfortunately
child please
by worldphuckinchamps on Apr 15, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
unfortuantly??
how is having a boldin fitz situation a bad thing? are either of those guys (jackson macline) a-holes like boldin is? cuz i know fitz is a stand up guy
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by Plaxico Burress on Apr 15, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha...
Dude, you seriously need to take Internet Sarcasm 101. Fell for it for the second time in one thread.
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Thanks for the memories...
damnit sorry guys
i really do need to start picking up on the sarcaism around here
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by Plaxico Burress on Apr 16, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions
go shoot yourself in the leg
child please
by worldphuckinchamps on Apr 15, 2010 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it will be awesome to have both Jackson and Maclin and they will be unstoppable. Then you gotta think about the FO. Are we going to pay them both? If not, there could be a whole lot of trouble like what Arizona had with Fitz and Boldin.
child please
by worldphuckinchamps on Apr 15, 2010 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions
The FO doesnt lets young superstars go. Now when they are 32 and drop production, then yeah they’ll get rid of a player no matter who you are, but thats not necessarily a bad thing.
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they do not necessarily give them the money they want tho
child please
by worldphuckinchamps on Apr 15, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
The problem with Deasean and the FO
is he got too good too early. They usually like to extend them long-term before they blow up, but DeSean beat them to it.
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
It is not his fault for being good. Due to the collective bargaining agreement, he can not receive the raise that he deserves. He will want big “Brandon Marshall money” that is a bit absurd, and with his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, he will definitely put up a fight.
Just wait until Maclin puts up just as good of number as Jackson within the next few years. He will want “DeSean Jackson money.”
It will be a very sticky situation.
child please
by worldphuckinchamps on Apr 16, 2010 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol we should give them matching contracts.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
Wait...
So you weren’t being sarcastic? Having a Boldin and Fitz situation would be unfortunate? Our F.O. ain’t cheap asses like the Cards one and manage the cap much, much better than most teams. They give fair compensation for their talent. Jackson will get a big contract after next season and so will Maclin the year after.
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Thanks for the memories...
I hope you are right
The FO can only spend so much money. If DeSean gets “Brandon Marshall money” and Maclin follows in his footsteps, that is at the least 18 mil a year. The FO is not cheap but thats a bit excessive. Somebody will be unhappy.
child please
by worldphuckinchamps on Apr 16, 2010 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions
The Colts gave Harrison a 7 year, 66 mil contract extension in 04, then gave Wayne a 6 year, 40 mil extension in 06. They won the Superbowl the next year in 07.
If Maclin also puts up top 10 numbers, I think their contracts will be similar to the Colts receivers’. If the Eagles are looking like an elite team after Maclin’s 3rd season, they will definitely pay him too.
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Thanks for the memories...
haha ok good he was serious.. im not that retarded then
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by Plaxico Burress on Apr 16, 2010 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Eh
I can understand Boldin being upset for being paid a lot less than his colleague. It’ll happen anytime two guys in the same position play well. We had it the last couple years with Sheldon and Asante…a team can only invest so much into one position.
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
wow thats a tough one
id have to say desean tho unfortuantly. kid is jus so g-damn explosive it kills me.
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by Plaxico Burress on Apr 15, 2010 4:26 PM EDT reply actions
yea exactly
little bastard killed us last year. im looking forward to rolle removing deseans lungs this year
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by Plaxico Burress on Apr 16, 2010 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Id pick Marshall
He is a better pure WR. Dont get me wrong, I think DeSean is one of the best WR’s in the league right now and definitely the most “explosive.” But the explosiveness will wear out, most likely sooner rather than later. That is also why I like Maclin more than Jackson.
child please
by worldphuckinchamps on Apr 15, 2010 4:36 PM EDT reply actions
Long term it's Marshal
He’ll age better with his size. I love Jackson, but he relies on speed so much not just to make plays, but also to avoid taking big hits (he always seems to avoid the big hit). I worry about him loosing a step to a small injury could lead to bigger ones.
Marshall, Marshall, Marshall
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marshall is in another league compared to desean...
not even comparable.marshall brings way more to the table
by rainvillefromottawa on Apr 15, 2010 6:27 PM EDT reply actions
It's obvious
That Marshall is the better pure receiver. I would take him or Jackson, however, I don’t think less of Jackson for it. Marshall’s game doesn’t fit our style of offense. He doesn’t do anything down here. And while its no doubt that he would start right away if he got here, its best that we didn’t get him because that would massacre our WR core.
Jackson is an obvious starter and as of right now, our best playmaker on offense. Maclin is still young, but I think he will end up being better than Jackson, Avant is one of the better slot receivers in the NFL. Where would Marshall fit into that group? He isn’t going to take a backseat to anyone. Maclin is being paid starter money and he is a first rounder and you don’t draft someone in the first round just to push them back on the depth chart. Jackson is the obvious starter because he is coming off a Pro Bowl year and will be looking for an extension come next season (most likely), and Avant just got extended to be a slot receiver and I can’t think of a number 4 receiver that makes $18 million dollars. So unless Maclin or Jackson was gone, Marshall has no place here.
Marshall: 101 catches, 1,120 yards, 10 TDs
Jackson: 62 catches, 1,156 yards, 9 TDS
Does catches really make that much difference, even if you’re not gaining as much yardage?
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yes
when you get more 10 yd first downs catches consistently.
by Desean Da Man on Apr 15, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
However we do have Celek and Maclin and even Avant to get us those consistant 1st downs.
thats Cobb on Kolb crime if you ask me... as said by yophillybro
"I'm trading Kolb to Buffalo for Cribbs"- the brilliant Trade Kolb
hmm
i guess, but marshall brings another element.
by Desean Da Man on Apr 15, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Jackson
will have many more catches this year, because he is not gonna be that deep threat consistently anymore. I am not saying he won’t go deep occasionally, but will rather go for the medium routes instead.
by Desean Da Man on Apr 15, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
dont forget Baskett!!!
lol
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Djax
He is the man.
Marshall? Mmm, not as much the man as Djax. Period.
Skill wise, I have tot ake Marshall. He is ahuge beast, and the fact he makes so many ctaches just shows his reliability.
But if you factor in his childish behaivor and other off the field issues, you have to take Jackson.
I like my players to be good on the field and off the field. jackson has an arrogance around him, but not to the point that it becomes a team distraction. This is why i favor Jackson overall.
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this is actually a good point
but it really depends on your patience level, i mean he hasn’t done anything illegal or anything just can get a bit pissy. if you can stand situations where he acts childish i would rather take marshall.
by Desean Da Man on Apr 15, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
oh wow
i did not realized it was that serious. wow a whole section on legal trouble… unbelievable.
by Desean Da Man on Apr 17, 2010 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
- Arrested for assault against a police officer in 2004
- Arrested for domestic violence in 2007
- DUI in 2007
- Ticketed for an illegal lane change without a license or proof of insurance in 2008
- Booked for misdemeanor battery charges also in 2008
- Arrested for disordely conduct in 2009
Add to the fact that he is in Miami now.
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Thanks for the memories...
This debate is a bit of a dumb idea i think
since you are asking this on a eagles fan site, most of the answer are gonna be biased. Now if you are asking about Marshall and some other non-eagles affiliated player it could be debatable.
I’d be willing to bet DJax will be a lot better than Marshall this year.
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key phrase: “this year”
child please
by worldphuckinchamps on Apr 16, 2010 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions
how much?
Receptions?
Yards?
TDs?
I expect the Dolphins to Bubble screen him to death! Short slants and fades at the goal line.
"Buy low sell high!"
They're different players
their skill sets would actually be quite complimentary on the field at the same time, but while they play the same position, it’s almost like comparing apples and oranges.
Do you like a Brian Westbrook style runner, or a Brandon Jacobs? Do you like an Asante Samuel CB or a Sheldon Brown? Do you like a Donovan McNabb/Ben Roeth (big QB, big arm, buys time behind line) or a Drew Brees/Peyton Manning (precision attack)?
I think if a team only has one good WR, they’re better off with the big body possession guy (like the Cowboys with Austin), but if Maclin pans out as many of us expect to be a good go-to receiver, then I’d have no real use for Marshall, and I’d prefer the skill set of Jackson.
"EFF YOU, WE'RE WINNING ANYWAY!!!!!!" (Bye, Dawk)
They are polar opposites, they would work well together. I agree.
Dude, I though Maclin was the best player down the stretch last year. I saw him take huge strides.
Of course, Defenses were all over Jackson, but McNabb didn’t even look Jackson way during that stretch anyway. He just looked more comfortable with Maclin. Must be that body size again.
In Kolb we trust
Umm
you just asked if we would rather have mcnabb/ roethlisberger over brees/ manning. no comment.
by Desean Da Man on Apr 17, 2010 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions

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